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00:07Scottie, in the paper today, it says that Phil wants one more year back here and Michael wants
00:12$36 million. And it also quotes Jerry Krause's not ruling out a trade for you, which leaves you
00:18flapping in the breeze. Does that bother you? No. I would love the opportunity of finishing
00:25my career out in Chicago. But if it don't happen, then I'll just have to look elsewhere. I'm
00:32one of the best players to ever play the game. I understand what my value is to this game.
00:40You're very underpaid, though, as one of the top players. What do you think your value is?
00:44My day will come. My day will come.
01:00Thank you. Thank you for all the wonderful moments that the fans here in the city have
01:06shown me and my teammates for 10 long seasons. I've had a wonderful career here. If I never
01:16have the opportunity to send us again, thank you.
01:24Scottie Pippen with a tearful thank you. We thought for one unconscionable moment that we
01:29might be hearing a retirement statement there. What made me upset was I knew it was the end
01:36of the journey, and I never saw it ending like that. Jerry Krause made everything real murky when he said,
01:46this is Phil's last year. We're dismantling this team. After the season, we're basically relieved of our duties.
02:08First of all, there's no backstabbing going on here. It's time for me to move on. This will be Phil's
02:13last year as the coach of the Bulls. Are the expectations way too high? Where do we go from
02:19here? The only question, how long can it last?
02:37Take it easy, guys. Michael, what did you make of Scottie Pippen's speech? He was kind of caught up in
02:43emotions. I mean, Scottie has feelings. I mean, he has certainly a dedication and love for the city of
02:49Chicago. It's tough. I mean, when you have so much appreciation for the fans who have supported you
02:57for so many years, and sometimes when you get out there and you speak, I mean, it has to touch
03:02you
03:02deep down inside. And with all what's happened thus far, I mean, it certainly can be a very emotional
03:09situation for me. Have you talked with him at all the while? Are y'all going to talk about the
03:14game,
03:14or are y'all going to talk to Scottie? A little bit of both. Well, you talk to Scottie to
03:18answer
03:18Scottie's reply. Okay, what about the game? There you go.
03:48Scottie Pippen was the underrated,
03:52underappreciated Robin to Michael's Batman.
03:55I would never be able to find a tandem, another support system, another partner in a game of
04:00basketball like Scottie Pippen. He was a pleasure to play with.
04:04What a show the Bulls are putting on here.
04:07Kept him right back this door.
04:12Through trial and error, through that kind of blast furnace that Michael would put people through,
04:18Scottie got tough.
04:20Scottie coming hard on the drive.
04:22Takes it all the way to the rim.
04:24Oh!
04:24Overburden!
04:25And he was lethal defensively.
04:29Sadale, three.
04:30Antonio Hart.
04:31Oh, come on!
04:33Play!
04:34Sensational end-to-end defensive action!
04:39Oh, him!
04:41He helped me so much in the way that I approached the game, the way I played the game.
04:47Whenever they speak Michael Jordan, they should speak Scottie Pippen.
04:52When everybody says, well, I won all these championships, but I didn't win without Scottie Pippen.
05:00And, you know, that's why I consider him my best teammate of all time.
05:09I grew up in a town of about 3,500 people.
05:13Everybody pretty much knew each other.
05:16My mom and my dad were very strong people, and they were about surviving.
05:22And obviously that's what they were about if they had 12 kids.
05:29We used to have a basket at my grandmother's yard.
05:32It was in the dirt, so it would be dusty all the time.
05:36It didn't matter.
05:38I had old shoes anyway.
05:40Everybody was close-knit.
05:41Everybody shared everything, you know.
05:44It was just a good time.
05:45We didn't even know we were poor.
05:50I was about 11 or 12.
05:54My dad had just gotten home, and as he was eating his dinner, he just kind of fell back, and
06:04he suffered a stroke.
06:08I can still see it every time I think about it.
06:14He lost his speech, and he was stuck in a wheelchair and bedridden for the rest of his life.
06:23Six years before that, my second oldest brother was in junior high school.
06:31A kid fell on him in a PE class with a wrestling move.
06:36It paralyzed him, so.
06:40So you grew up with him?
06:42Two.
06:42Yeah.
06:43Yeah, with two people in my house in a wheelchair.
06:48Basketball gave me an opportunity just to get out of the house and play, and didn't need anyone to kind
06:54of play with.
06:55Dr. J was my childhood hero.
06:59I always wanted to play like him and dunk the basketball like him.
07:05I felt like that one day I was going to be in his shoes.
07:08Yeah, that's every kid's dream, you know.
07:11Every kid's dream, wanting to play in the NBA at one time or another.
07:16It's just a dream.
07:20He always knew he was going to make it to the NBA.
07:22And you relieved him?
07:24Not really.
07:26Scottie arrived at UCA, and he started off as being the equipment manager.
07:32But he was practicing and doing all of those things that he should do with the team.
07:40A few guys academically fall off, so some scholarships come available.
07:46And I go back as the coach.
07:49I was very persistent, and he finally gave me a scholarship.
07:53He came in as a 6'1", 155-pound guard.
07:58I got to watch him play, and I thought, wow, this guy's got a little something that he can fill
08:03out.
08:04He started lifting weights.
08:06He could handle the ball better.
08:07He could shoot better.
08:08He could jump higher.
08:10I was getting better at such a rapid pace.
08:13Then my freshman to my sophomore year, over the summer, I grew five inches.
08:21When I seen him, the next time, he was 6'5".
08:25And then the next time I seen him, he was 6'7".
08:33He exploded.
08:34Three on one break.
08:35Parrish to Pippen to the goal.
08:38He kept his guard skills that he had, even when he grew.
08:41Scottie Pippen underneath McClain.
08:43He could grab a rebound on one end, take it the length of the court, weave in and out of
08:48people, and dunk it.
08:49Very few players can do that.
08:56I remember Coach saying, Scottie, they out there.
08:59They looking for you now.
09:05I was a fanatic basketball fan, and I went down and watched Pippen play.
09:09I knew he was going to be really good.
09:10First time I met him, he could hardly string three words together.
09:13He was so shy.
09:14By the time he graduated from the University of Central Arkansas, which was an NAIA team,
09:20he was the best player in his division in America.
09:22I just really got excited.
09:24When I saw Scottie Pippen play the first time, I thought, oh my lord, he's going to be a special
09:28player.
09:29The NBA scouts saw the versatility, they saw the athletic ability, they saw the humbleness.
09:34The Seattle Supersonics select Scott Pippen of Central Arkansas.
09:41Scott Pippen from the University of Central Arkansas.
09:45He's 21 years old, and that's right, folks, you probably have never heard of Scottie Pippen.
09:51Scottie, one year ago, if somebody said you were going to be the fifth player taken in the draft,
09:54what would you have told them?
09:55I would have told them probably that they was joking, you know, really.
09:59I would have figured it would have just been a big joke.
10:02That there's a deal involving Seattle and Chicago that you're going to be traded to Chicago?
10:07No, I have not heard about it.
10:10Apparently, you're wearing the wrong hat.
10:12Yeah.
10:13We realized that we were going to have to maneuver to get up in the draft to get a higher
10:17pick
10:18than we otherwise would have had in order to get him, and Kraus was able to pull off a trade.
10:23We were able to work a trade the night before the draft, and technically, the Seattle Club
10:27took him for us, and then we acquired him.
10:31You know, Chicago is a great franchise, and probably every player that's sitting down in
10:34the audience wants to be a part of the Bulls.
10:37The Bulls brought in Scottie Pippen, touted to make an immediate impact in the NBA.
10:44Scottie Pippen about to make his big league debut.
10:48Barclays nearly kicked it away, plays it outside, stolen by Pippen.
10:51Scottie Pippen on the right corner.
10:53Scottie Pippen made the steals, and Jim with both hands at the other end.
10:57Scottie took a lot of trash.
11:00Scottie came in, said, I'm going to be better than Michael Jordan as a rookie.
11:05I was pretty confident in who I was as a player, but as a rookie, you get treated like
11:12a rookie, and Charles was a bully, so he beat me up for saying that.
11:18He's a rookie here.
11:19He'll be back back to the day.
11:21He get treated like this.
11:23I'm going to treat next to this time, all right?
11:25All right?
11:26Yeah, okay.
11:27I get a snap of it.
11:30I recognized that instantly that, you know, you're not the top guy on the basketball team
11:36anymore.
11:36Outside, Chiefs ball, tipped away by Joe, good, slow, stupid, and then it's up for the
11:40Red Bulls.
11:45Michael was such a superstar in the game of basketball, and he was bigger than any superstar
11:52that any sport had ever had, so it wasn't like, you know, he was the average guy, like,
11:59let's go have lunch or whatever.
12:02It was different.
12:07Actually, my rookie year, he gave me a pair of golf clubs.
12:12That's a nice thing to do, to give a rookie a set of clubs.
12:15Yeah, he was trying to lure me in so he could take all my money.
12:21Everybody needs that number two.
12:23The person that does the dirty work, and Pippen was great at it.
12:27Here comes Michael, number three again.
12:30Score!
12:33But he was so low-paid, he was not even the 100th highest-paid player in the NBA.
12:40Pippen is as underpaid as underpaid gets, only the 122nd highest-paid player in the league.
12:47Scottie Pippen signed a deal in 1991.
12:50Do you recall the terms of that deal?
12:52I don't recall the terms, but I do recall that it was a longer contract than I thought
12:57was smart for him.
13:04Scottie Pippen signed a deal in 1991 for seven years for $18 million, and if he played it
13:10right, he could have made nine times that amount, ten times.
13:15I said to Scottie the same thing I said to Michael.
13:17If I were you, I wouldn't sign this contract.
13:19You may be selling yourself too short.
13:21It's too long a contract that you're locking yourself in for.
13:24I felt like I couldn't afford to gamble myself, getting injured and not being able to provide.
13:32I needed to make sure that people in my corner work were taken care of.
13:39He did take care of my dad and my mom.
13:42He built them a house.
13:44He sent them money every month and everything, made sure they were taken care of.
14:04He signed a long-term deal, and it was undervalued pretty quickly.
14:08The league took off.
14:11You know, revenues went way, way up.
14:13Salaries went up.
14:16Jerry Reinstorf was emphatic about it when the guy signed the contract.
14:21I don't want to hear from you again.
14:22Don't come back and try to renegotiate.
14:25It was embarrassing because he was maybe the number two player in the NBA.
14:30His value was immense.
14:33I just got straight down.
14:34There you go.
14:36You know what?
14:37I find it's okay on this one, but on my other mind, my patella, doesn't I?
14:41When we got to 97 and 98, that was the last year of Scottie's contract.
14:46I know he was very frustrated because Scottie needed to get paid.
14:51He deserved to get paid.
14:52There was a lot of anger from Scottie.
14:57You know, he had been one of the best players in the game for many years.
15:01He had done so much for the Bulls, so his frustration bubbled over.
15:06The world champs making news this week.
15:09Scottie Pippen of the Bulls will be out for two to three months.
15:12Pippen underwent surgery Monday on a sore foot in New York.
15:15It's an injury that's been bothering him dating back to the Eastern Conference Finals.
15:19I had a ruptured tendon in my ankle, and I decided to have surgery late because I was like, you
15:29know what?
15:29I'm not going to fuck my summer up trying to rehab for a season.
15:35You know, they're not going to be looking forward to having me, so I'm going to enjoy my summer.
15:41And I'll use the season to prepare.
15:44Scottie was wrong in that scenario.
15:46He could have got his surgery done as soon as the season was over and be ready for the season.
15:51What Scottie was trying to do was trying to force management to change his contract.
15:58And Jerry wasn't going to do that.
16:03So now I've got to start the season knowing that Scottie wasn't going to be around, but we have to
16:10find a way to win.
16:12How do you carry this team now in November and December without Scottie?
16:16I think we have to do it collectively.
16:17I don't think one individual is going to be able to do it.
16:19I think we as a team, that's what a team is all about.
16:22So we have to cover up for Scottie not being here.
16:25We know he's not here, but that doesn't mean we stop playing.
16:28Our Chicago Bulls without Scottie Pippen, and they apparently missed him tonight.
16:34The Atlanta Hawks beat the Bulls here in Atlanta.
16:38The final score, 80-78.
16:40This is going to be the worst setback for the Chicago Bulls.
16:45Cavaliers beat up the Chicago Bulls.
16:47Again, it is still early, but four and four for the Bulls out of the gate.
16:51They have not scored 100 points yet this season.
16:59We're not playing with much continuity and much rhythm, and that's something that Scottie really provides for us.
17:04Scottie was so key for our team.
17:06He tied us together in many ways.
17:08And when you're a really good team, one loss feels like five.
17:12You know, you're just, you're expected to win.
17:15You're supposed to win.
17:16And so early in that season, we were losing games, and it felt like trouble.
17:22As time expires, and the Phoenix Suns have hung on for a dramatic victory over the Chicago Bulls.
17:37Scottie could have gotten that surgery right after the season ended.
17:40Yes.
17:40He purposely did this late to Thomas Mills at management.
17:44Were you frustrated by the way Scottie handled it?
17:46No, I wasn't.
17:48You have to understand players' mentality and where they're coming from, and some guys can handle it, some guys can't.
17:55And, you know, Scottie probably needed to have this to feel like he justified what his salary was.
18:01So I stayed solid.
18:02I said, we're going to survive this.
18:04We'll be fine.
18:05We'll go forward.
18:06That's one of the things that Phil was really good at, is managing distractions and keeping us focused on what
18:13we had to do.
18:14Scottie's on a different timetable.
18:15It's going to be a bumpy road until he gets back, but we've got to manage without him for right
18:19now.
18:20When it came down to it, this burden always fell on Michael.
18:24And he welcomed it in a lot of respects.
18:26You know, he liked that.
18:28He liked to take the responsibility.
18:30I'm gearing myself up physically to deal with whatever I have to deal with.
18:34I'm looking forward to it, actually.
18:37Michael wanted to be the best player on the best team.
18:41Scottie's not here, but we're still better than this.
18:45I was trying to get the guys to understand it from my standpoint.
18:51Scottie was out.
18:52My voice had to be the loudest.
18:55I let my anger motivate the players by saying, I want this.
19:00Do you guys want it?
19:02He's raising his voice.
19:03He's calling guys out.
19:04You got to rebound better, box out.
19:06We're not playing well as a team.
19:08Defensively, we're lazy.
19:10What are you doing?
19:11You're back and waiting.
19:12I'm just waiting for it.
19:13You're waiting for it.
19:14Why?
19:16You're very aggressive.
19:16They're coming to help you.
19:18He's not worried about hurting your feelings.
19:19If he hurt your feelings, you could leave.
19:21He would gladly tell you, get out.
19:23We don't need you here.
19:24You don't want to play hard?
19:25Get out.
19:25You fucking help me.
19:26You ain't got a day, bro.
19:28You make what you made of time.
19:32You know what?
19:34I got a skin of you.
19:35I don't think.
19:36I actually fall.
19:37My fault, man.
19:38Every day that Scottie wasn't playing gave someone else confidence that they can beat us.
19:43Hey!
19:44And if you're trying to maintain dominance over people, you don't want to give them a chance
19:48to gain confidence.
19:51So that drove my energy.
19:54Let's get this thing rolling.
19:55Let's go out and get our first win.
19:57I'm going to say this shit again.
19:58Let's do it.
19:59What time is it?
20:00Time time.
20:01Move.
20:02This Bull team, fired up tonight, really wants to get off this 0-4 start on the road.
20:09Embarrassing for such a good team.
20:11The Bulls in their roadblocks.
20:13The Clippers in a home life.
20:14They played at Clippers, who were a joke.
20:19Worst team in the league.
20:21Yet, the dregs of the league took the Bulls to two overtimes.
20:26Jordan kept waiting for somebody else to help him.
20:28Nobody else would help him.
20:30For that game, he went somewhere and he found a switch.
20:36And the answer to the question is Michael Jordan's hired.
20:40No.
20:42Jordan had to score 49 for them to win that game.
20:45No question.
20:46We saw greatness here tonight.
20:47The Bulls win for the first time on the road.
20:49111-102.
20:50Jordan finishes with a mere 49 points.
20:54We've had opportunities to win, you know, in all the games on the road except for Cleveland.
20:58And hopefully we can build upon this that we, you know, we can finish games on the road.
21:02We've been in all those games.
21:03And we really needed a win like this.
21:06Jordan was really worn out.
21:08Worn out physically.
21:09Worn out emotionally.
21:18Worn out emotionally.
21:19Michael, I hope you like the story.
21:22Clarence, what's up, man?
21:23Come on, man.
21:24How you doing?
21:24How you doing?
21:25How you doing?
21:25How you doing?
21:26My innate personality is to win at all costs.
21:29If I have to do it myself, I'm going to do it.
21:36Every time I step on that basketball court, my focus is to win a game.
21:45It drives me insane when I can.
21:53As you get older, you look back and you understand how you became the person you are.
21:58I don't think I would be here without the lessons that I learned at a very young age.
22:04That competitiveness within me started when I was a kid.
22:28You know, my parents provided us with all the opportunities to succeed in life.
22:34You know, my father worked at General Electric.
22:36My mother worked at the banks.
22:39As a black person growing up in Wilmington, we were trying to make our own footsteps.
22:46As a family, we were naturally tough.
22:48My father was tough.
22:49My mom was tough.
22:50And the environment they brought us in was a tough environment.
22:54You get knocked down.
22:55You got to get up.
22:56And you always give it your best.
22:58And you always try to win.
23:00We hated to lose.
23:02Mrs. DeJoy and myself always tried to share with them, don't wait for somebody to give you something.
23:09You're strong.
23:09You're intelligent.
23:10Go out and earn it and work for it.
23:12We had five kids.
23:13And both the wife and I both worked.
23:15And we were wary at times about the kids being home.
23:19So we thought one of the things that we could do is get them involved in sports.
23:23Drop them off at the Little League field or the gym and keep them involved in the community.
23:29My parents were trying to keep me busy.
23:32They always wanted all of us to play organized sports so that we learn more about life.
23:39At the time, you had racism all over North Carolina, all over the United States.
23:45And it was a lot of it around there.
23:47So as a kid, it was like, okay, this is where I don't want to be.
23:51You know, I want to excel outside of this.
23:54So my motivation was to be something outside of Wilmington.
23:57For me, it became athletics.
24:02We used to compete an awful lot in the backyard.
24:05My brothers hated losing, but not on the same level like me.
24:10Because if you beat me back then, we had to fight.
24:13You know, and that's just the way I was.
24:16They were so competitive between the two of them.
24:19Matter of fact, at that time, it might be said that Larry was the best basketball player.
24:24My father pushed everybody.
24:27And he had the chance, if he felt you weren't doing the best you could,
24:31he would find a way to push you harder.
24:34And that really drove Micah, because Larry was pretty good at quite a bit.
24:38I don't think, from a competitive standpoint,
24:41I would be here without the confrontations with my brother.
24:45When you come to blows with someone you absolutely love, that's igniting every fire within you.
24:52And I always felt like I was fighting Larry for my father's attention.
24:56I wanted these do-it-yourselfers around the house.
24:59So I could take Larry out, and he was fascinated by fixing things with his hands.
25:03Took a lot of pride in it.
25:04And Micah would be out, and he'd say, give me a Phillips screwdriver, he might give you a pair of
25:08plows, you know.
25:09And I guess I was a little short-paced with him.
25:11I'd say, get back in the house with your mom.
25:13Boy, you're never going to be anything.
25:14Just go back with your mom.
25:16When you're going through it, it's traumatic, you know, because I want, I want that, you know, I want that
25:22approval.
25:23I want that type of confidence.
25:24So my determination got even greater to be as good, if not better, than my brother.
25:39I met him in trials.
25:42But there was nothing particularly outstanding in trials.
25:45He did not make the varsity team as a sophomore.
25:50When I got home, I told my mother I was cut.
25:52I was demoralized.
25:53I didn't want to play any more sports.
25:55Felt like, you know, the coach didn't like me.
25:58He was devastated.
25:59He came home upset, crying.
26:02And we both cried, because I knew he wanted to really compete with the other guys.
26:06My words to him was, if you really want it, you work hard over the summer.
26:12And he did that summer.
26:14He focused.
26:14He would practice all day.
26:17That basketball never left his hand.
26:19If you want to bring out the best in Mike, I'll tell him he can't do something.
26:22Or he can't do it as good as somebody else.
26:24And I think that he takes it as a personal challenge to go out and do it just to prove
26:29you wrong.
26:31Mike's improvement from his sophomore year to his junior year was tremendous.
26:35A lot of it had to do with his size.
27:06He was about 5'10 or 5'11.
27:08And we invited him to our basketball camp.
27:11When he got here, we knew of him.
27:13We'd heard he was pretty good.
27:15Five days later, when we left here, we thought he was the best player in America.
27:46It was the third game of the season.
27:47It was my second season.
27:49It was my second season.
27:49We're playing Golden State.
27:50I go up for a lob.
27:54And when I landed, I landed flat-footed.
28:01When they did the CAT scan, it was a clear break.
28:08And I was done.
28:12Last year's Rookie of the Year, Michael Jordan, out with a broken left foot.
28:18I was devastated because I never got hurt.
28:20I'm in the cast.
28:21I couldn't do anything.
28:23I was anxious.
28:25I'm pretty sure I was irritable to a lot of people.
28:28He broke this bone right in the middle.
28:32It's an area of the body that may not heal very rapidly because of the poor blood supply.
28:40The healing time can vary from 6 weeks, 12 weeks, or even longer.
28:44And occasionally, that fracture does not heal.
28:46Michael had never missed a game through high school, college, and the NBA so far.
28:53All of a sudden, he misses 64.
28:56I'm doing nothing, watching games, sitting on the bench.
29:00My mother and my father came up and spent a lot of time.
29:03You could not keep him on that bench.
29:06Mr. Jordan, myself, is saying, Michael, you are not ready.
29:10And he said, well, I don't think you can tell me.
29:12I know when my body's ready, but the doctor knows when you're ready.
29:16I was itching to do something.
29:21So I talked the bulls in to let me go back to college.
29:26I just started going to the gym, shooting.
29:29And then I started playing one-on-one.
29:31Then I started playing two-on-two.
29:33Then I started playing three-on-three.
29:34Next thing you know, I was playing five-on-five, and the bulls never knew I was doing it.
29:39And when I got back with the bulls, my calf muscles and my injured calf was stronger than
29:49my uninjured calf.
29:50So the first thing they said, what in the hell have you been doing, blah, blah, blah.
29:54We didn't really know he was playing until he came back and told us.
29:57When Michael came back, he said, I've been playing an hour and a half a day for the last
30:00week.
30:01And after my heart dropped out, I just dropped down and, oh, my God.
30:05I gradually worked my way up to a point where I'm playing five-on-five in a game, and I
30:10got the confidence that the foot is completely healed, and I can play on it.
30:14Michael asked him, well, if I play, what percentage is there that I'm going to get hurt again?
30:19The doctor said, yeah, 10%.
30:21And I just lost it.
30:23I said, look, it's 10% chance, but it's 90% chance that I won't.
30:27And then I chimed in to the doctors.
30:29What happens if the 10% kicks in?
30:32And they said, well, then his career would be over.
30:34Well, everybody's just thinking about the negative.
30:37Well, I think the glass is half full.
30:39Everybody's thinking it's half empty.
30:40So I said to Michael, you're not understanding the risk-reward ratio.
30:45If you had a terrible headache, and I gave you a bottle of pills, and nine of the pills
30:51would cure you, and one of the pills would kill you, would you take a pill?
30:56Well, I look at him, I said, depends on how fucking bad the headache is.
31:00From Jerry Reinstorf's perspective, a pure business decision.
31:05You don't play the guy.
31:07Here's your franchise, literally your franchise.
31:09In my mind, he should not risk coming back, because we weren't going to win a championship
31:15anyway.
31:16Why even take a 10% risk that your career is going to be over?
31:19Well, he didn't see it that way.
31:20I'm starting to think, well, maybe it's not me playing, as opposed to us trying to lose
31:26games so we can move, you know, into the lottery.
31:28Do you think that there's something to this business of wanting a better position, getting
31:31in the lottery?
31:32I hope not.
31:32I mean, that just shows the losing attitude, not just on the team, but in the front office
31:37also.
31:38We should always go out and try to win.
31:40Exasperated Bulls owner Jerry Reinstorf finally agreed to a compromise, which would allow
31:45his star to play a specified number of minutes in each game.
31:48We reached a compromise, and we allowed him to come back and play, I think it was seven
31:52minutes each half.
31:53So let me go back and play, and then, you know, they put a time restriction, you know
31:57what I mean?
31:58Jordan with 10 points in limited playing time.
32:01They had him on seven minutes per half, time limit, with a stopwatch.
32:06Jordan.
32:08That counts for Michael.
32:12He could be almost at mid-shot.
32:14It's like, tweet.
32:17All right, Jordan, you're out.
32:18Michael Jordan sat down.
32:21He doesn't seem too happy to sit down.
32:23He's fired up and ready to go.
32:25They're going to have to hold him back.
32:28What was the rationale for the seven minutes per half?
32:31Well, we felt that the doctors had said a certain amount of time.
32:35We felt we were going to try to make the odds right in a situation where we would reduce
32:40the odds.
32:41At the time, the coach was Stan Arback.
32:44So, Stan, fuck these guys, man.
32:47Give me the most important seven minutes that you can think about.
32:51So now we start winning, and we start getting into the playoff picture.
32:57We get to a pivotal game.
32:59We go and play Indiana in Indiana.
33:02We need this game because it puts us in a position to make the playoffs.
33:07Stan got berated, saying if you put him in one second, more than 14 minutes, you're fired
33:13on the spot.
33:14Jordan around an Oakley screen.
33:16Lean in, Jackford.
33:17Left baseline is in.
33:19For 14 minutes, I just go absolutely ballistic.
33:22And we were in a position to win.
33:24In for the left.
33:26Leads in the middle.
33:27Three 18-footer, good.
33:28Bulls have the lead.
33:29Outside Richardson.
33:30Right side, Fleming.
33:3120-footer, good.
33:3431 seconds left.
33:36The Bulls take time.
33:37Down one.
33:38All of a sudden, the time is up.
33:41I don't know if Jerry came down from the stands to say, hey, get him out of the game.
33:44And there's like 30 seconds left.
33:4631 seconds to go.
33:49Michael's time is up.
33:51I'm just like, I'm angry.
33:53Who believes what a sensational performance?
33:56Michael saw it for what it was.
33:59You play the game to win, period.
34:02So I don't want to hear about your draft pick.
34:04I don't want to hear about missing the playoffs and how good that would be.
34:08That's not how you play the game.
34:11I'm begging Stan, put me in the game.
34:13Come on, it's only 14 fucking seconds, Stan.
34:1613 seconds.
34:17Put me in for 13 seconds.
34:19He said, MJ, I can't put you in.
34:20I'm going to lose my job.
34:21It fueled the whole theory that here we're trying to not make the playoffs so we can get a better
34:27draft pick.
34:28But I vowed to make the playoffs every year.
34:30And this is a chance for us to make the playoffs.
34:35It's our ball.
34:36It's 13 seconds left.
34:40Lo and behold, John Paxson hits a game-winning shot.
34:44Pax comes down with a jumping one-hander.
34:46Fortunately, I get lucky and throw some shot in, and we end up winning the game.
34:51Oh, no, the Bulls win it.
34:53The Bulls hang on it.
34:54What have I won?
34:55What a big victory by the Bulls.
34:59We went into the locker room.
35:01Stan locked that door, and Jerry Krause came wanting to get in at the end of the game, and Stan
35:07wouldn't let him in.
35:08And, you know, it was, it was, it wasn't a good, it wasn't a good situation.
35:15The mistrust Michael had with management, specifically with Jerry Krause, was he believed that they violated the most fundamental aspect
35:24of sport.
35:26Of, I would argue, the most fundamental aspect of the way Michael conducted his life.
35:31You do it at the highest level, and you do it to win all the time.
35:36From that moment on, Michael's relationship with the ownership and management was deeply soured.
35:44That never went away.
35:47No one could limit the power and the glory of Michael Jordan.
35:51The Bulls made a late-season rush into a playoff berth, which, ironically, cost them a chance at one of
35:56the first seven choices in next year's draft.
35:59We ended up making the playoffs happen, I believe we won only 30 games in the regular season that year.
36:03We ended up the eighth seed.
36:04Jordan essentially wills his team with a losing record into the playoffs, and what is their reward?
36:12Well, they get to play the almighty Boston Celtics with four guys who make the Hall of Fame.
36:19We had Parrish, McHale, and Walton.
36:24All of them were about seven foot tall that could score, run, defend.
36:29We had Danny Ainge and Dennis Johnson, our guards, and I was a small forward.
36:32So we had a big team, and we were deep, we were big, and of all the teams I've been
36:38on, there's no question that was the best team.
36:40That setting against that team, that's what you play for, you know, you get to be in those situations.
36:45The Celtics have won 31 in a row at home.
36:48They beat Chicago six times this year in the regular season.
36:51Michael had this just supreme confidence about him.
36:55He loved the big stage.
36:56This is the opportunity to play against Larry Bird and the Boston Celtics.
37:00Man, this is showtime.
37:02Michael was coming off a pretty serious injury, and we didn't know what to expect.
37:06Michael Jordan is back, and there are no limits to his playing time.
37:09He's really ready to cut loose, and we're about ready to go on the Boston Garden.
37:13They took all the limitations off, and it was like unleashing a wild dog.
37:19Jordan hangs in the air, puts it down.
37:22Jordan got it from the baseline.
37:24Jordan changed it in mid-air, got it nonetheless.
37:26Our whole thing was just do what we can do to hold Michael down, but you don't hold the great
37:32ones down.
37:33Michael Jordan, wheels, fades, off balance.
37:37Oh, absolutely amazing.
37:39Jordan beat Dennis.
37:42Carlisle has the unenviable task of playing Jordan.
37:45He is a man, sir.
37:47I mean, Carlisle just wants his mommy.
37:53Jordan with great anticipation.
37:54He's off to the race.
37:56Watch this.
37:58We had a lot of guys in our league that could score a lot of points.
38:01He took it to another level, and we stuck with the game plan, and we ended up winning the ballgame.
38:06McHale, Byrd, Parrish, and a foul.
38:09There's the Celtics.
38:14Who do you have for the player of the game, Jack?
38:16Pretty hard to ignore Michael Jordan tonight.
38:18We chose him as our player of the game.
38:2049 points, 49 points, four rebounds.
38:22A spectacular individual effort by this guy.
38:25Tough job for the Chicago team now, and for Stan Albach trying to get him ready for game two.
38:29They played so hard here tonight.
38:31I remember game two.
38:33I had played golf with Michael the day before.
38:37It was Michael, Danny, Mike Carey, and myself.
38:41And Michael and Danny are giving it to each other back and forth.
38:44Before game two, you played golf with Danny Ainge.
38:48Mm-hmm.
38:52Hit two.
38:53I cannot hit it today.
38:56I took a few bucks off of Michael that day, and we're talking trash to each other.
39:00That might have been a mistake.
39:04Get it out.
39:08Pissing me off, man.
39:10We get them, we get in the car, we drop Danny off first, and Michael says,
39:16hey, tell your boy, DJ, I got something for him tomorrow.
39:21The first game, a guy scores 49, but I don't think anyone had expected going into the next
39:28game what was going to happen.
39:44He was scoring at will.
39:46Dunks, bankers.
39:47He'd get in the middle and shoot over guys.
39:52I played practically every minute in the second game.
39:58I just never stopped.
40:02Stan Allback kept putting me in isolated situations, and I just took advantage of my youth and my
40:08energy.
40:08Jordan trying to use his witness, and it works.
40:11Jordan with 31.
40:13Bullseye.
40:14Jordan against Ainge.
40:16Spins into the lane.
40:17Scoops the shot up, and in and draws the foul.
40:20We all took our cracks at him that day.
40:22It wasn't one guy.
40:24DJ was our best defensive player, and he picked up four fouls early in the third quarter.
40:30Four fouls on Dennis Johnson.
40:31Welcome to the club.
40:32I was on him for a while.
40:34Danny was on him.
40:35DJ was on him a lot.
40:36Walton, I remember laughing in the middle of the game because Walton was cursing me out because
40:42he had to guard Jordan on a few occasions.
40:45Walton with five.
40:46Next foul, and he's gone.
40:48Walton isolated one-on-one.
40:51Walton fouled out.
40:52Jordan has shot 18 free throws and made 16.
40:56You and me pups, cut him up in chunks.
40:59You assumed you hurt me, and your ego's rough.
41:01I'm so good, it's a shame, because I ain't rappers like a cannibal.
41:06They call me insane.
41:07I'm as f*** as a bull.
41:08Of course, you know I am bull.
41:09I enjoy what I'm doing, plus I'm paid in.
41:12Oh, my.
41:1348 for Michael Jordan.
41:15Say the kind of rhymes that make a C-switch that I die.
41:18Now I'm tired.
41:19I'll put my mic on the shelf.
41:20The baddest rapper.
41:21You like 49 on Thursday?
41:23How about 50 on Sunday?
41:24Pull up Sean Perry's good.
41:2652 for Jordan.
41:27Michael right baseline jumper.
41:29Good, and a foul called.
41:31Michael shooting for the tie with no time left.
41:36Overtime in Boston Garden.
41:38Jordan hits it.
41:3956 for Jordan.
41:4061 points to tie all time.
41:43Single game playoff record.
41:45Got it.
41:4663 for Jordan.
41:47A new NBA record has been set in the Boston Garden.
41:50It was a high-scoring game.
41:52Fortunately for us, we had the last shot.
41:56Bird, pick and roll.
42:00And a hard-fought victory for the Boston Celtics to take a 2-0 lead.
42:05We were fortunate to win that game,
42:06but Michael put on a show.
42:08Our Miller Lite most valuable player of the game is Michael Jordan
42:12with an all-time record, 63 points in a single playoff game.
42:17We ended up winning the series,
42:18but it was an incredible, incredible playoff performance.
42:22I've never seen it before,
42:24and I had never seen it after.
42:26That wasn't Michael Jordan out there.
42:27It was God disguised as Michael Jordan.
42:33Nobody like him.
42:35Point blank.
42:36I've never seen nobody play like he plays,
42:37and you can include all of them.
42:40Jordan is the most talented player in the NBA by far.
42:48Guys like myself and Larry who knew the game,
42:51who knew championship basketball,
42:52we knew the guy was coming, right?
42:55He just needed the right horses to go along with him.
43:00We realized that Michael Jordan
43:02was the greatest ball player in the NBA.
43:05So a year later, we basically rebuilt the entire team.
43:09Krause went to work.
43:11We added some great people
43:13like Lars Grant and Scottie Pippen.
43:16We changed the makeup of the team.
43:19I will always give Jerry Krause credit
43:22for assembling a roster that fit.
43:26I'm sure one of the hardest trades he ever had to make
43:29was trading Charles Oakley to New York for Bill Cartwright.
43:32We needed a big man, so Bill was a great fit.
43:36As much as I love Charles,
43:38this fits us better than what Charles gives us right now.
43:40Michael was very fond of Charles
43:42because Charles was his protector.
43:44Michael was always attacking the basket,
43:45and he got knocked down a lot.
43:47And Charles was always the guy to back him up.
43:49We're going right after Hot Rod Williams.
43:52When Krause pulled the trigger on that trade,
43:54that was probably one of the defining things in his career.
43:58Charles Oakley and I were good friends.
44:00We spent a lot of time together,
44:02but things were in place for us to win,
44:04you know, when he left.
44:06Jerry did a phenomenal job with the team.
44:09He made great trades, made great free agent signings.
44:12He deserves a lot of credit,
44:14but he couldn't get out of his own way.
44:34Scotty had problems with Jerry,
44:37and it came out on several occasions.
44:41The thing was, and part of, you know,
44:43Scotty's anger was they did look into seriously trading him
44:48after the 96-97 season.
44:50Anybody can be traded,
44:52and part of my responsibility
44:54is to listen to other teams
44:56when they talk to me about our players.
44:58And we think Scotty Pippen is certainly,
45:00you know, one of the top couple of players in basketball
45:02and feel very strongly about him.
45:04And I can't tell you what's going to happen in the future
45:07because I don't know.
45:10Krause's point then was, look,
45:12we're going to lose Pippen in a year.
45:14The group doesn't have that much left.
45:17Let's blow it up now.
45:19But ownership said no.
45:21I killed that because I decided
45:24that as long as Michael Jordan was still going to be here,
45:26we got to go for the sixth championship.
45:28Jerry, how close did you come to dealing Scotty Pippen?
45:31Well, we had a number of offers
45:35we thought were good offers
45:38for Scotty and for some of our other players.
45:41I'm never going to stop being aggressive,
45:44and I will never stop trying to do things
45:47to make the team better.
45:48That really is what sort of
45:52tarnished my relationship with Jerry.
45:55He tried to make me feel so special,
46:00but yet he was still, like,
46:03willing to trade and do all that stuff,
46:06but never would tell me to my face.
46:11After you're in the game for a while,
46:13you realize that nobody is untradeable,
46:16but I felt insulted.
46:20I sort of took the attitude
46:22of disrespecting him to some degree.
46:29There was always barbs going back and forth,
46:32but at a certain point,
46:34Scotty crossed the line.
46:36I mean, it was getting personal.
46:40Pippen started abusing Krauss openly,
46:43you know, cursing him out on the bus.
46:45Couldn't tolerate him anymore.
46:47Didn't respect him.
46:50I remember some shots
46:52coming from the back of the bus.
46:55Raise your eyebrows, you know.
46:59Pippen started
47:02berating Jerry Krauss
47:05for the team.
47:06You know, we had to say, you know,
47:09hey, let's hold it down, you know.
47:12But that's when it was like,
47:14hey, there's a divide here.
47:15You know, it's not your normal...
47:18I mean, there's some hard feelings.
47:20You don't appreciate me.
47:22You're trying to trade me.
47:23You won't pay me.
47:24Well, screw you.
47:25You know, I'm taking care of myself now.
47:28I was at that point
47:29where I felt like
47:30I needed to do
47:31what was best for me.
47:34I feel like it was time
47:35for me to go shopping.
47:37Pippen is now demanding a trade
47:39and he says he will not return
47:40from the injured list
47:41until he has gone from Chicago.
47:43He said he's never going to play
47:44for the Bulls ever again.
47:46I'm never going to wear
47:47this uniform ever again.
47:48Can the Bulls do something
47:49that would make you want to stay?
47:52Nah, no.
47:53I don't see myself carrying out.
47:55I just guess Scotty made
47:57some birth-shattering comments
47:58last night
47:59to one of the Chicago writers
48:00about wanting to be traded.
48:02Can we get your thoughts on that?
48:04I don't really have any right now.
48:06I felt like Scotty was
48:08being selfish.
48:09You know, worrying about himself
48:10as opposed to
48:11what his word was
48:13to the organization
48:14as well as to the team.
48:17I'm done here.
48:18You know what I'm saying?
48:20You've already
48:21written my script out
48:23that this is it.
48:25So I had to do
48:26what was best for me.
48:38Bye-bye.
48:38Bye-bye.
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