00:00What's the biggest thing?
00:02Pabukol.
00:03Pabukol?
00:03You're a big man, right?
00:05Yeah.
00:06Well, yeah.
00:07A lot of people will doubt you.
00:08In a way, showbiz is fake.
00:16There are a lot of people in your sexiness.
00:18Oh, right?
00:19Wow.
00:20Wow.
00:21You're always comfortable.
00:23You're just going to be brief.
00:24You're just going to be brief.
00:26You really?
00:28They like that.
00:31Pabukol.
00:32Pabukol?
00:33Yeah, pabukol.
00:37Thirst Trap.
00:38Yeah, I like the Thirst Trap.
00:39Of course.
00:40Oh, that's right.
00:40That's so funny.
00:41Just a little bit.
00:43Yeah, just a little bit.
00:45Yeah, just a little bit.
00:46What's that?
00:47Of course, a large part of my following
00:50is from the LGBTQAI plus community
00:53as well as women.
00:54So, to please the audiences.
00:58I'm young.
00:59I work out every day.
01:01I live a healthy lifestyle.
01:03So, why wouldn't I want to showbiz?
01:05You're hard, right?
01:06Yeah, right?
01:07So, it's like my hard work.
01:08Yeah.
01:08So, I might as well show it to the world.
01:10But, you're not going to lose
01:11indecent proposals.
01:13Of course.
01:14That's right.
01:15I mean, that's part of being in showbiz.
01:17What's the biggest offer?
01:20What's the biggest offer?
01:21What's the biggest offer?
01:22I'll say it.
01:23What's the biggest offer?
01:24Life-changing.
01:25Life-changing offer.
01:26Really?
01:27But, what do you want to do?
01:29I don't want to sound too generic.
01:31But, yeah.
01:31The travel offering of material objects,
01:35the house and stuff like that.
01:37For me, because I've worked this hard to get here.
01:40So, if I just take the easy way out,
01:43except for an easy proposal,
01:44it's not for me.
01:46It wasn't the time that you were tempted.
01:49Of course.
01:50There's something like that.
01:52Yes.
01:52Because it's like a shortcut.
01:53Yes, right?
01:54Who doesn't want a quick, you know?
01:57But, you know,
01:58what's that, right?
01:59That you're going to do with others.
02:01What's that?
02:02What's that?
02:03What's that mean?
02:03You're like,
02:06that's part of the offer.
02:06I know.
02:07I know that that's part of the offer, right?
02:11I know that that's part of the deal, right?
02:14Yes, right?
02:15It's like a shortcut.
02:16There's always a shortcut, right?
02:17No.
02:18It wasn't how I was raised, eh.
02:21I was raised to work hard for my money.
02:26It's never been something that I need to do it to get to this.
02:29When you were a showbiz,
02:31what did you want to do here?
02:33A good artist?
02:36What's that?
02:37I come from theater.
02:39Yes.
02:40So, I think,
02:41well,
02:42any other theater actor watching this is,
02:44could probably agree on the fact that
02:46they love the craft of acting.
02:50Most theater actors do it for the love of acting.
02:53For the love of acting.
02:54Yes.
02:54So, I don't think I came from showbiz
03:01to be famous or for the followers.
03:04It's not, that wasn't my aim.
03:06It was more,
03:07I love acting.
03:09I love art,
03:10arts and crafts.
03:11So, that's the reason why I came from showbiz
03:15to fulfill that.
03:15The part of being, you know,
03:16being a public figure and being well-known
03:19is a nice thing.
03:20I'm not gonna, you know,
03:22say that he's not nice.
03:24But, that's not the reason why I came from showbiz.
03:27But sometimes, you're also vocal on social media, right?
03:31Yeah.
03:32Too vocal.
03:32What motivates you?
03:34Like that.
03:35What motivates me?
03:36I'm emotional.
03:37I'm a person.
03:38Because I'm a person.
03:39So, my blood is hot.
03:41Wow.
03:42How hot?
03:43Very hot.
03:43Boiling hot.
03:45I'm a person.
03:46I'm not righteous.
03:47I'm not righteous.
03:49I like to speak my mind.
03:50You want your mind.
03:52Your take.
03:53Yeah.
03:54Because I think, you know,
03:55the hardest part of being in showbiz
03:56is sometimes you can't speak your mind.
03:58I feel like sometimes showbiz takes away your voice.
04:01Because you're thinking about your image
04:04always on how people perceive you in the public.
04:07In a way, showbiz is fake.
04:09Because a lot of people just do what they,
04:13what appeals to the mass.
04:17But that might not be them personally.
04:19Me, I wear my heart on my sleeve.
04:22So, it's like, what you see is what you get.
04:24How did you become close to Anja?
04:26Graduate Tech?
04:27Yeah.
04:28So, before,
04:31I had a BL series,
04:33Love at the End of the World.
04:34Have you watched it?
04:35No.
04:36I had Frantosano in that series.
04:38Ah, really?
04:38I've already watched it.
04:39There's an underwater swimming scene.
04:43Nude.
04:43Yeah.
04:44Fully naked.
04:45Ah, I watched it.
04:46Fully naked.
04:47So, that scene,
04:51that scene,
04:52that scene,
04:54and I'm not sure
04:55if that's what An and them saw.
04:58But that BL series,
05:00the BL series,
05:02because of that.
05:03And I think that's partly why
05:04they got me to go to Thailand
05:06to host her shopping channel.
05:08And endorse her products.
05:11Because BL series are very popular
05:12in Thailand as well.
05:14So, that's how I met An.
05:15And then, during that time,
05:18she wasn't the owner of Missy Universe yet.
05:20She was also a negotiator.
05:21Oh, she was a negotiator.
05:23But she was, you know,
05:24buying it or bidding for it
05:26at that time.
05:28So,
05:28she saw that I was good at hosting
05:32and then,
05:33she hired me to host
05:34some of her pocket events
05:36for Missy Universe.
05:37But are you really close?
05:39We're close.
05:40Yeah.
05:41We're close.
05:42Until then?
05:43No, no.
05:44We're not in contact anymore.
05:47What's going on?
05:47Sorry.
05:50Well...
05:50He's not.
05:51Yeah.
05:53That's a question, right?
05:56It's a dark, dark road
05:58if I go down that road.
05:59But...
05:59But do you know that?
06:03About money problems?
06:05No.
06:06No.
06:06Because his lifestyle is very lavish.
06:08Is that right?
06:09That's right.
06:10Very lavish.
06:11I mean,
06:12a millionaire.
06:12Yes.
06:13You know,
06:13in Thai,
06:14that, right?
06:14But apparently not.
06:16I guess,
06:16there's a lot of debt
06:17from his negotiators.
06:20He paid for it.
06:21It's like that.
06:22It's like that.
06:23I'm not sure.
06:23Because Missy Universe was expensive
06:25when she bought it.
06:26I mean...
06:26$500 million.
06:28It's like that.
06:29So,
06:30yeah.
06:43Yeah,
06:44yeah.
06:45Yeah.
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