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'Con Man' star Alan Tudyk stopped by the THR offices for a candid conversation.
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00:00Hi, this is Mariah Gullow from The Hollywood Reporter, and I'm here with Alan Tudyk, and this is Meet Your
00:05Emmy Nominees.
00:06Hey! I'm Alan Tudyk. Nice to meet you.
00:10Alan, you're nominated for Outstanding Actor in a Short Form Comedy or Drama Series for Con Man.
00:17Yeah. Wow. That's so cool.
00:19How does it feel to be nominated?
00:22It feels really good. I mean, I just found out just a couple of days ago, and so...
00:27How did you find out?
00:28I got a call early in the morning from my producing partner and close friend, PJ Harzma, and he called
00:37at an hour that he usually does not call at.
00:39So I said, what? That was my answer. What? What? And he said, congratulations, congratulations. I was like, on what?
00:53What? You really have to, why are you calling now? And then he told me. And I really didn't, it
01:02took a while, like the day before I started to accept that it was actually a real thing.
01:06Mm-hmm. Did you have any interesting or surprising reactions from people?
01:12I got, a lot of people talked, you know, like a lot of people reach out in that moment to
01:16say congratulations.
01:18Uh-huh. Anybody looking for a job immediately?
01:21You know, that might have been the impetus behind some of those.
01:24Hey buddy, we haven't talked in a while.
01:26Let's do something.
01:27Yeah.
01:29Yeah.
01:30Did you do anything to celebrate?
01:33I think I had nachos.
01:35Oh.
01:36That's good.
01:36It's pretty much a celebratory food in my household.
01:39Let's go get some nachos.
01:41It's terrible for you, they make you feel bad, but ultimately it's good.
01:46Is there anybody else who's been nominated that you're excited about?
01:50Yes, of course. Mindy Sterling.
01:52Who's in Con Man.
01:54Yeah.
01:54And most of us, she's, her, our scenes are always together and she's very funny and I got to cast
02:02her in it.
02:03And so it really, I think I was happier about her in the beginning and then after I just overtook
02:11her with my own selfishness.
02:12Right.
02:12But in the beginning I was like, that's the one.
02:16Because she's, you know, I don't know, I've just known her in things for so long.
02:19Now she's actually competing against herself because she was nominated for another show as well.
02:25Yeah, I've heard that she's her own worst enemy.
02:27So it makes sense that she would compete against herself.
02:30But that says a lot, right?
02:32That she's nominated in two different things.
02:34Absolutely, absolutely.
02:36So what are you most looking forward to at the Emmys?
02:41Oh, I don't know.
02:43I guess seeing people.
02:44That's usually the neat thing about those things.
02:46You get to meet people.
02:48Yeah.
02:49Who do you want to see?
02:51Gosh.
02:52I don't know.
02:53Just the people who are nominated in my category.
02:55Yeah.
02:56Ty Burrell is very, very cool.
02:58He and I were married on an ill-fated pilot once.
03:03He was my husband.
03:05So it would be nice to see him again.
03:08I don't know.
03:08I never know who to expect at those things.
03:11It's always like, oh my gosh, look over there who it is.
03:14Yeah.
03:15Who would you want to be seated next to?
03:17I mean, besides your significant other.
03:19But is there anybody who you'd be excited to be seated next to?
03:23Oh my gosh.
03:24So in the Emmy category, I don't know.
03:28Anybody from the Game of Thrones would be cool.
03:32Anybody from Preacher, because I love that show.
03:35Preacher is fantastic.
03:37Yeah.
03:38Gosh, I don't know.
03:41You know, really anybody who doesn't smell or want to talk a lot.
03:50You don't want to get somebody who just wants to talk too much.
03:53Right, right, right.
03:54So maybe not Seth Rogen then.
03:56Seth Rogen!
03:57I'd love to sit next to Seth Rogen.
04:00I was in Knocked Up with him so very long ago.
04:06Our careers sort of...
04:07Anyway, we haven't kept in touch.
04:10So it would be nice to...
04:11Oh, there you go.
04:12We've got a lot to catch up on.
04:13Yeah.
04:14So maybe that's, you know, you could get Knockout Preacher and Catching Up at the same time.
04:19Oh my gosh.
04:20I'll do it.
04:21I'm in.
04:22So let's talk a little bit about Con Man Season 2, which you were nominated for.
04:29So when did you have the idea to do this and why?
04:34Well, I was on a TV show called Firefly back in 2002.
04:38Right.
04:39It came on on Fox and it was short-lived, Joss Whedon's show.
04:43It lasted 14 episodes, which actually wasn't the whole...
04:46A lot of people say, you only got one season, but actually that was back then, that was only half
04:49a season.
04:51And for a lot of network shows.
04:52So we flew...
04:53I flew a spaceship.
04:54It was pretty great.
04:55Nathan Fillion was the captain.
04:57And there was a huge fan outpouring when we got canceled.
05:03And then it became this huge thing after...
05:07Every year there were more and more fans.
05:10So I went to a lot of cons, a lot of conventions, comic cons and things like that.
05:16And it was an extraordinary world that I had never seen before.
05:21And I thought that it should be a show.
05:24And it would be great to expose, not the...
05:27A lot of people think the fans are the crazy thing at those conventions because they dress up and stuff
05:32like that.
05:33But it's the people who work for the conventions and the actors and things that you just...
05:41You can't...
05:42You can't imagine that...
05:44There was one guy who...
05:46They take photos, this bizarre way.
05:47They take portraits of you and fans.
05:50And it's...
05:51You're like, hi, how's it going?
05:52It was really nice to meet you.
05:53Nice to...
05:54Hey, how are you?
05:55Great costume.
05:55Nice to meet you.
05:56You just go...
05:57It's this crazy thing that happens.
05:58And there was a guy who was doing the pictures.
06:00The first con I ever went to.
06:02And, uh...
06:04Like we were halfway through and he goes,
06:05Alright, we've got to stop.
06:07It's my finger.
06:10And he had a...
06:11A bucket of ice.
06:12That he put his finger in.
06:14It's gonna make 10 or 15 minutes.
06:16And some Prosecco.
06:17It was like...
06:19What?
06:19Are we...
06:20This is really...
06:21You can just...
06:22You can hit the thing like that or get a pedal or something to click the photo.
06:27Use the other finger.
06:29Anyway...
06:29It was...
06:30It was starting to get exposed to people like that that wanted to write a show and put those types
06:34of people in and turn the spotlight on them.
06:37Mm-hmm.
06:37Yeah.
06:38And you have some very colorful characters.
06:41Yeah.
06:41Now all of the...
06:42All of the different types of actors that you have.
06:44You have a motion capture guy.
06:45Yes.
06:46People at the height of their careers.
06:48People who are struggling.
06:49Mm-hmm.
06:49You've got Rain Yearly.
06:50Yes.
06:51Who's you?
06:52Right.
06:53Um...
06:53Are...
06:54Are all of these stories of like kind of all of the things that happen to them is...
06:58Are they all based in truth?
07:00There's a lot of them that have, uh...
07:03Some truth to them.
07:04Or I...
07:05I saw them taking place and then...
07:08Uh...
07:08Wrote.
07:09That's like a jumping off point.
07:11Mm-hmm.
07:11Um...
07:12There's one, uh...
07:13With Tricia Helfer from Battlestar Galactus.
07:15She's on Lucifer right now.
07:17Yes.
07:17Where she has, uh...
07:18I went to a convention actually in Florida.
07:19And one half of the convention was our sci-fi convention.
07:22And then another part of the hotel was a doll convention.
07:25And these women...
07:26And I was in the lobby and there were all these women who were in their 50s and 60s with
07:30babies.
07:30Mm-hmm.
07:31And they were talking to each other and had strollers.
07:34And then I realized that they were dolls.
07:36And then I went to my sci-fi half and everybody had these...
07:41There was a lot of action figures.
07:42And I was like, well, what's the difference?
07:44Which I've been told by authorities that there's a huge difference!
07:48What's wrong with you?
07:50And so we did that.
07:52But it was Tricia Helfer who has a doll and my character falls in love with her.
07:55Right.
07:55And I get my action figure which has a...
07:59It's got a malfunction.
08:01And so, yeah.
08:02So, writing that kind of thing.
08:04You know, out of all of the episodes, I would not have thought that that episode was based
08:09in truth.
08:10Right.
08:10So many of them.
08:12So many of them.
08:13And it's an interesting needle to thread because there's a good example.
08:18Like, I meet a lot of fans who have loved Firefly or Star Wars or whatever.
08:25It could be anything.
08:27It could be any movie or project you've been involved in that they will say...
08:30But it's usually Firefly.
08:31They'll say, I was in Afghanistan and we had the DVD box set of Firefly.
08:38And we watched it all the time.
08:39And it really brought us together.
08:40And it meant so much to us.
08:42And I just want to thank you.
08:43And it's like this.
08:44It's so...
08:44It's so moving.
08:45And I have goosebumps.
08:48And so, in Con Man, having...
08:50Wanting to give service to that real thing that happens, but also make it funny.
08:55There's a character that comes up.
08:57And he says, your tro...
09:01He's dressed like a...
09:02He's dressed like a tooth fairy.
09:05Your tro helped me forget what happened to my village.
09:09I burned it down.
09:12You get the sense that he burned it down.
09:17Not apologetic.
09:20It's pulling things that were real and mixing them around and making them funny.
09:24Right.
09:25I've heard that you used a lot of...
09:28A lot of the extras on the show were people who were crowdfunding for the show.
09:33Yes.
09:34Do you have...
09:35Do you see the same people over and over again at the cons?
09:38There are some.
09:39Yeah.
09:39There are some.
09:42Yeah.
09:42From the very beginning, one of the first fans I ever met was a woman named Rosie.
09:47And she...
09:49I still see her.
09:51I don't know.
09:51She's around.
09:52Like...
09:53She's big.
09:54But, you know, a lot of the fans that I see again and again are ones that have charities
09:59that are attached to the Brown Coats, which is a Firefly-themed...
10:04You know, they're these groups.
10:07Because we were called the Brown Coats.
10:08And they raised money for charity.
10:10And they even let me, like, pick the charity.
10:12And then they raised, like, hey, we raised $5,000.
10:15Wow.
10:16I mean, it's so amazing.
10:19And to get to make a comedy...
10:21And Mindy Sterling's character, I have to say, she's my favorite character to write,
10:25because she can do anything.
10:26She plays my manager.
10:27She's somebody who was formerly a sci-fi actor who has now become a manager,
10:31which there are several of those you'll find in the convention world.
10:37And...
10:37But she still wants to act.
10:40And she likes...
10:42She's always trying to steal auditions from me.
10:46And she has that thing where she goes on about...
10:49I'm an actress.
10:50I've been in theater and motion pictures, commercials, on cruises, infomercials, and snuff films.
11:03You've been in snuff films?
11:06We botched the ending.
11:08So she was supposed to be the one that was killed.
11:11But she survived it.
11:13And then, so it's a fun role for me to play, because there's all these insane characters that are around
11:17me.
11:18So he's... Ray is constantly under siege, so it's that.
11:22And then in the second season, we had the musical.
11:24We got to do a musical with Lou Ferrigno, doing Of Mice and Men, the musical, I'm a Stupid.
11:30What I love about the show is it has this quality that it's half satire and half surreal.
11:37Yeah.
11:37And you're just kind of moving between, you know, just kind of complete insanity and sight gags, and then like,
11:44you know, real satire.
11:47But I was wondering...
11:49That's totally what it is.
11:50Well, good.
11:51It came through.
11:52Wow.
11:53But my question is, as the creator of this show, has it been therapeutic for you to do this?
12:02Yes.
12:04Probably.
12:05I mean, in the sense that, like, those weren't demons I had to get out.
12:11You know, my character differs from me in that he doesn't like the crowds.
12:17He wants fans.
12:19He wants to be famous.
12:22He wants a career.
12:23And he has one.
12:24He just doesn't appreciate it.
12:25He wants a different career.
12:26Nathan Fillion's character is a huge Matt Damon-level star.
12:31Not Ben Affleck.
12:33He's Matt Damon.
12:34So he's up there.
12:35And I see his career and really what that Ray does.
12:39So in that way, I'm not the same.
12:42I'm not excising those demons.
12:46But making things that make people laugh, oh my God, it's so much fun.
12:52And being able to know that I, you know, see something in life, you're like, oh, that would be really
12:56funny if you put it in a show or if you wrote a scene like that.
12:58Like the voiceover one with Milo Ventimiglia and Nolan North and Gina Torres where there was a video game.
13:05I did a video game with Nathan Fillion where we both did it in different cities and came back together.
13:10I was like, what was it like doing that?
13:12Halo.
13:13And he's like, dude, so cool.
13:14You know, I was like, follow me and this way and we got him on the run.
13:19And all of my things were, ow, that hurts.
13:24They're using real bullets.
13:26I got a plan.
13:27Let's hide.
13:28So if you play Halo 3, the guy who's saying all that stuff, that's me.
13:33He seems he's upset.
13:35He's always.
13:36And so to play the guy who is that, who wants to be the other guy who says those things
13:42is really fun.
13:44Yeah.
13:45And then to work with actors like Milo and everybody who's in the show that I want to work with,
13:51that's so cool.
13:52Yeah.
13:53That's so cool.
13:54Where did you get your comedy beats from?
13:57Like how did you kind of.
13:59Right.
14:00I did theater.
14:01I started out in theater and I, I worked on new comedies really when I was younger.
14:08And so when you do a new comedy, it's being rewritten all the time.
14:11And then you do it in front of an audience and the writer will be like, you go out there
14:14and the thing fails entirely.
14:15Some bit will fail.
14:17I remember I was doing a doorman and this guy comes up and he's, you know, I'm missing a thumb
14:22and I've got no eye and a lathe accident.
14:25I'm sure all of that isn't necessary for this story.
14:27Anyway, the joke fails.
14:31And he's like, oh, that didn't work.
14:33It was terrible.
14:33It was an awful feeling.
14:34Well, do it again.
14:35Do it again in the matinee.
14:37Tomorrow.
14:37So you do it in the matinee.
14:38Still fails.
14:39Do it tonight.
14:39Still fails.
14:40Okay.
14:40And they rewrite the joke.
14:41And then the joke will be, instead of the guy coming up from this side, he comes up from this
14:45side.
14:45And instead of the clipboard in your hand, the clipboard is now on the ground.
14:49And you have, and he hands you the clipboard.
14:50And so he'll rewrite the joke.
14:52It's still the same joke, but it's twisted around a little bit and maybe he gets the punchline and not
14:57you.
14:57And so I learned so much doing those comedies with amazing writers and amazing directors.
15:07And I got to work with some of the best.
15:10I got to work with Eric Idle in Spamalot.
15:12Oh, wow.
15:13And Mike Nichols directed that and work with him.
15:18And you're going to learn something with those guys.
15:22Just doing their work, you start to feel it.
15:25But if you're in front of a live studio, they'll tell you if it's not right or if it is
15:30right.
15:32Just feeling those laughs.
15:34It's pretty cool.
15:36So what was it like creating the Of Mice and Men musical starring Lou Ferrigno?
15:42That was great.
15:43We wrote a musical that's like five songs.
15:51And Lou Ferrigno came to me with the idea of doing Of Mice and Men together at a con.
15:56He was like, we should work together.
15:57We'd always say that.
15:58That was like our relationship.
15:58We'd see each other and go, we need to work together.
16:00We need to work together.
16:01And then he said one day, let's do Of Mice and Men.
16:03I was like, oh my God, that's brilliant.
16:06No.
16:07But I have an idea.
16:09Next year I'm going to call you about this.
16:12And from when we did season two and told him.
16:15And he was so into it.
16:16Because in the beginning, his character wants to play Lenny.
16:21So I'm George.
16:23Yeah.
16:24The man who's the size of a bear.
16:31And it's called I'm With Stupid.
16:33And we had, you know, turn around and bang.
16:35And it's all like turn around and bang.
16:37Things aren't great.
16:37Then turn around and bang.
16:38Things are going to be good.
16:39And then turn around at the end, bang.
16:40We shoot him in the head.
16:41Which I thought was so much fun.
16:43Not because of nothing personal against Lou.
16:46But a comedy that goes that dark is pretty great.
16:48Yeah.
16:49Yeah.
16:51How did you get the idea to fight a lost Hemsworth brother to the death?
16:57Have you had any interactions with the Hemsworths?
17:01No, I haven't.
17:02I haven't met a single Hemsworth.
17:04Oh, that's not true.
17:05I have met a Hemsworth.
17:08The main one.
17:10Thor.
17:12Chris.
17:13Chris.
17:14We're very close.
17:18Chris.
17:19Very nice.
17:20Yeah, I just, when I, there's three of them.
17:24And I just, when I heard of the third one, I then just took it one step further.
17:28There were an enormous amount of Hemsworths.
17:32And that, there's a thing that people like actors now, they're like, Australians get all
17:37the jobs and English people get all the, English actors get all the jobs.
17:41But I thought it'd be funny if the Hemsworths, just Hemsworths get all the jobs.
17:45Yeah.
17:45So there's all these different ones, Farnsworth, Hemsworth, and Huck, and then Girth.
17:55Girth.
17:56Girth, Hemsworth.
17:59Yeah.
17:59That's amazing.
18:01So that was the idea that we just, yeah, just came up with the Hemsworths as being the major
18:06threat to getting any role.
18:08They've got to go out to every Hemsworth first.
18:10And then if they say no, you got a shot.
18:13Right.
18:13Right.
18:14So I have a little game with you that we play at the Hollywood Reporter.
18:17I like games.
18:18First best, last worst.
18:20Dare.
18:21Oh, different game.
18:22Got it.
18:24First acting job that made you think, I've made it.
18:28And it didn't have to be true.
18:30Right.
18:32I would say, oh, I did, I read the stage directions in a reading where everybody just
18:43sat down and I read the stage directions.
18:44But it was at a Broadway theater in 1994, I think it was, doing The Rainmaker with Jimmy
18:53Smits and all these amazing actors.
18:56And I read, you know, scene opens, sun shines through the window.
19:01And I was like, I'm on Broadway.
19:03I totally, that's how it translated to me.
19:06So that would be it.
19:07I'd made it at that point.
19:09Hang it up.
19:10They gave me a $20 bill and subway token.
19:13Back when you had tokens.
19:16What the hell?
19:18Okay.
19:19So best story you have from a sci-fi convention.
19:23Hmm.
19:25Huh.
19:26I don't know.
19:27You know, I've been asked this question so many times and I, you'd think I would have
19:30an answer.
19:32Well, I really should have an answer.
19:33Oh, okay.
19:34You know what?
19:37Um, I did a convention in Australia.
19:42Great conventions in Australia.
19:44Went to, uh, Perth.
19:48Carrie Fisher was there.
19:49And Carrie, Carrie took a shine to me.
19:52And I sure took a shine to her.
19:54She was fantastic.
19:55She was a, she was a ballsy chick.
19:57I really liked her.
19:59And she, we had these vans.
20:01We were out at something.
20:02We were meeting fans.
20:03And, and, uh, she said, is Alan in that, get Alan in my van.
20:08And so I was in the van with her and David Hasselhoff.
20:11Amazing.
20:12Yes.
20:13They are, his ex-wife is now married to her half-brother or something.
20:22Mm-hmm.
20:23There's like some, like, connection there.
20:26Mm-hmm.
20:26Also, the guy's name is Michael Knight, somehow.
20:29Anyway, there was a lot of odd in him.
20:31Oh, wow.
20:31And she's like, so, David, on the back of your pants it says, back, Hoff.
20:40He's like, yes, Carrie.
20:42That's, that's funny.
20:44He's like, it was, it was a joke.
20:46It was for, it was for Australia's Got Talent.
20:48And I was on there.
20:49It was for the other judges.
20:50So it was for the other judges.
20:52Hmm.
20:53And now it's for everybody else.
20:55It's like, she's just kidding me.
20:58I was really enjoying it.
21:00She said, one day we're gonna look back on all of this, Alan, and we're gonna laugh.
21:04It's like, where are we when we're looking back on all of this?
21:08Where do you see the two of us in this picture?
21:11Just so I, just so I know what to expect.
21:14Yeah.
21:14It was, it was beautiful.
21:16Fun.
21:16That's sweet.
21:17Yeah.
21:18Um, last time you were recognized in public?
21:24Yesterday.
21:25Yesterday, I went to a yoga class.
21:30Nobody recognized me there.
21:33Then, I went to get frozen yogurt right after the yoga class.
21:37Yogurt class.
21:39Because, I'm healthy now, let me get some ice cream basically.
21:43Yeah.
21:44And, uh, the guy, the two guys who were working there, um, one guy said something to the other
21:50guy about, be cool guy, be cool man, don't ask him a bunch of questions.
21:55And he was like, what are you talking about?
21:57Dude, play it.
21:59So, they didn't really say anything but that.
22:02And I gave him a dollar tip and I felt like I was not enough.
22:07Oh.
22:08It was good though.
22:09So, I got like a chocolate and a coconut and then put some almonds on there.
22:13So, sort of like an Almond Joy thing going on.
22:16That's a good combination.
22:17I always overdo it.
22:18I always do too many.
22:19The brownie things and all of that.
22:21It's like Reese's with that.
22:22Not the brownie but just like too many different kinds of flavors.
22:25That's what I'm bad at.
22:27I'll take tart and chocolate.
22:30Right, right.
22:31Exactly.
22:32Yeah, that's, that's the, yeah.
22:35So, uh, worst audition experience?
22:41God, there have to be terrible ones.
22:43There have been, because I've been doing this for a long time.
22:48I remember once there was a, oh, this was rough.
22:52It was a long time ago.
22:53I don't remember.
22:54I think it was for a play or something.
22:55And they said, tell us a joke.
22:58Just tell us a joke.
22:59Just any joke.
22:59And I had seen Red Fox tell a joke.
23:04Red Fox, you don't know who Red Fox is.
23:07He was Sanford and Son.
23:09Anyway.
23:10And so I said, I can't tell the joke unless I tell it like him.
23:15So I did this terrible Red Fox impression.
23:17Would you like to hear the joke?
23:19Sure.
23:20So I can show you.
23:21I'm on your camera.
23:23So a woman goes to the doctor.
23:26And she says, doctor, doctor.
23:30You gave me the wrong hormone pills.
23:33And the doctor says, that doesn't sound right.
23:36How do you know?
23:37And she says, look here.
23:39I got hair up all of my chest.
23:41And he says, oh, my God.
23:43How far down does that go?
23:44And she said, all the way to my dick.
23:52And it was silence.
23:55Everybody didn't know if they could laugh.
23:57It was offensive.
23:59It was probably very offensive.
24:02So that happened.
24:03And that was your SNL audition, huh?
24:05I think it was for some regional play that I did not get.
24:11Did not get that job.
24:15Probably for the better.
24:16Yeah.
24:21Next.
24:23So I have a couple more questions before we wrap up.
24:26Yes.
24:26I do have to talk about K2SO.
24:29Oh, yes.
24:30How has, okay, so K2SO as well as your other kind of motion capture triumphs or voiceover triumphs of late.
24:37Mm-hmm.
24:38How has that affected how you feel about your career or about yourself as an actor?
24:43Because Con Man talks so much about kind of like struggling to be something that you're not or what you
24:49wish you could be.
24:50Right, right, right, right.
24:51And now you have this success in this field, which, you know, doesn't necessarily, you don't necessarily become recognizable.
24:58Right.
24:59But you certainly, I mean, you've worked with the legendary Frank Oz.
25:04Yeah.
25:04Like, where do you see your career now?
25:07Like, have you come to terms with this immense talent that you have?
25:13Huh?
25:14I'm coming to terms with it.
25:17I was recently recognized at a yogurt place.
25:21That's true.
25:22That's true.
25:24You know, Ray Neerly, the character from Con Man, and I really veer off early on, you know.
25:33I've been able to do so many things that I, I'm from Texas and my parents aren't actors and, you
25:44know, it was something that was kind of like, you want to do what?
25:48And got into Juilliard and put myself through Juilliard and all that stuff.
25:52And really have just kind of, from off-Broadway up to Broadway and little roles in movies.
26:01And so, I don't know.
26:05Ray Neerly, he's, he hit the dirt pretty fast.
26:11I think it might give people who are watching it questions.
26:13You know, like, there's the character of the second best motion capture artist in the world, and who hates Andy
26:21Serkis.
26:22I don't hate Andy Serkis.
26:24I don't resent him for being the best motion capture artist.
26:30I don't know.
26:31It's been pretty cool.
26:31I mean, you know, Star Wars and all that, that's, that's the cons.
26:34So when I go to cons, I'm just meeting a whole new group of fans.
26:39I can't, you know, that's, getting Firefly back in 2000 and, you know, it was like 2001, 2002 that we
26:46were cast.
26:47Changed my life.
26:48Changed my life.
26:49Absolutely.
26:50And just, unlike Ray Neerly, who goes to these cons and goes, I'm not famous.
26:56Because if you ever want to feel like you're famous, or that you've done something that makes a difference, I,
27:04I go to a con, you know.
27:06For me, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's something I'm very thankful for.
27:10And the show comments is meant to be a valentine to them, or a love letter, or whatever it is.
27:17You know, it's nothing lewd.
27:19Yeah.
27:19You know, it's just sort of, it's not like a, like one of those selfie things when you're naked or
27:25anything.
27:26No.
27:27It's more like a, like a florid.
27:30It's a thank you.
27:30It's like a thank you, but not like on a post-it.
27:33It's like long, it's handwritten, but legibly.
27:37And maybe cologne.
27:39Aww.
27:40Not, not too, you don't want to go too far, but it is.
27:45And the cologne smears the ink just a little bit, just for character.
27:48Yeah.
27:49So that's what it is.
27:52Yeah.
27:52It, it feels, it feels like I've kind of, just kind of gone like this.
27:56Although, Emmy nomination.
27:59Mmm.
27:59That's a, that's a big spike.
28:00That is a big spike.
28:02I mean, I'm going to tell people about it a lot.
28:05So, I'm, I'm going to try to get that spike going.
28:09Yeah.
28:10Um, last question for you.
28:12Um, do you have any advice for the young cast of Game of Thrones on where they go after,
28:17their, their, their, their season finale happens?
28:21The young cast?
28:22The series.
28:22Like what, what, like I can consider many people young.
28:24Who, like at what age?
28:26We talking.
28:27I mean, I would say everybody who is younger than you were when, when Firefly happened for
28:33you.
28:33Yeah.
28:36Yeah.
28:36Um, uh, yeah.
28:37I, mmm.
28:38Well, you've got to, nobody watches that show.
28:40So it's going to be tough.
28:41Yeah.
28:42It's going to be tough to make that transition into the cons.
28:45Yeah.
28:46I don't know.
28:46You just keep, I'd say go do stage.
28:49Go do a play.
28:51I've always thought that plays give you a chance to, you do the same performance again
28:56and again and again and again and new ideas come every time you do it and you find a new
29:01way through it.
29:02Especially if you have, if it's a successful play and you do it for a really long time.
29:05So after playing a character for so long, it'll give you a chance just to sharpen those
29:09skills, I guess.
29:10I don't know.
29:12I'm sure they're going to be just, just fine.
29:15Well, that's lovely.
29:17Thank you so much, Alan.
29:18Cheers.
29:19Very nice to meet you.
29:20Nice to meet you too.
29:20And check out Con Man on Comic Con HQ and iTunes.
29:24Oh yeah.
29:25It's on iTunes and yeah, Comic Con HQ, which is what you just said.
29:32Uh huh.
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