00:00The investigations into worker exploitation, which is, you know, Oxfam in 2019, Bureau of
00:05Investigative Journalism in 2023, they've shown that UK farms that supply major supermarkets
00:11are using, I mean, poor pay, recruitment debt bondage, unsafe conditions. In one kind of,
00:18you know, Oxfam analysis, the 79 pence that a British shopper paid for 100 gram
00:22pack of black assam tea, around 49 pence of the 79 pence went to the supermarket,
00:28and only three pence went to the workers on the plantation. So I mean, it's a real issue. And
00:34it's a real problem for people who are working in this. And we don't have an answer. And of course,
00:39I completely understand what Felicity is saying. And I think it is true is that a 7p vegetable on
00:45a shelf is kind of ultimately, sometimes the only way that people can eat. And if we're wanting
00:49people to eat healthier, we have to think about ways to make vegetables more affordable. I think
00:53the other thing to talk about, and I guess maybe we'll move on to slightly, is that the left wing,
00:59or centre left policies that reform, who are a right wing party, obviously are kind of slightly
01:08taking over that they, they are now talking about energy and food and protectionist terms. So like
01:13British farming first, which does kind of overlap with a lot of the green critiques. So where we used
01:20to see it as being quite a traditional right left. And we've seen with the way the reform are trying
01:24to court the trade unions now as well. It's a mess. Like if you look at it from a political
01:30perspective, it is a mess. And it's not clear that there's a real like, this is what the left wing
01:36think we should do. This is what the right wing think we should do. And I think that then until
01:40we've
01:40got a kind of coherent argument in place from any party, we're in a bit of a problem.
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