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When The War Is Over Season 1 Episode 3
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00:09I was living in America when 9-11 exploded the world as we knew it.
00:20America's response was swift.
00:22And just weeks later, Australian forces also headed to Afghanistan.
00:29Joining the war on terror.
00:33Overt operations shrouded the war in secrecy.
00:37And it lasted almost 20 years.
00:42But more than a decade into the conflict,
00:45it was one of Australia's official war artists, Ben Quilty,
00:48who laid bare the hidden truth of the price of our war in Afghanistan.
00:55And that was just the start of a national reckoning
00:59with what really happens when the war is over.
01:07I'm Rachel Griffiths.
01:09And I believe that when it comes to understanding war,
01:14art is our secret weapon.
01:18So in this series, I'm putting this theory to the test,
01:21one war and one artwork at a time.
01:27Because while journalists tell us what happened.
01:30They left in scenes that are now part of television's history.
01:33It's our performers.
01:35When the song was released, it was banned.
01:37Yeah.
01:39Filmmakers.
01:40Peter Weir for Philip.
01:43Writers.
01:43The narrow road to the deep north.
01:45Artists.
01:46I was the only one not carrying a weapon.
01:49And musicians.
01:49If it's too risky to say, sing it.
01:53Who help us make sense of it.
01:56Holy.
01:57This is incredible.
02:02Art's not just there to be pretty and admired.
02:05Art is the magnifying glass and the mirror.
02:08This was a pub rock song that changed our lives.
02:10That's what art can do.
02:14This is when the war is over.
02:42Beauty and pain are old bedfellows when it comes to art.
02:52Wow.
02:53Well, I have to say, this is a brand new experience for me.
02:56I've looked at a lot of art.
02:58But this is, the skin is the canvas.
03:01You're the canvas.
03:02And you get to wear it all the time.
03:06Adam Maguire is a man who wears his heart and his art on his sleeve.
03:12Here we go, the big reveal.
03:13A veteran of over 28 years, the war in Afghanistan was his final deployment.
03:19Holy shit.
03:23This is, this is incredible.
03:27Can I say, this is an excellent use of love handles.
03:32Yes.
03:32Because these poppies have a beautiful three-dimensional quality.
03:38Among his tapestry of tattoos that tell stories about his and his family's decades of service, there's a tattoo for
03:47a mate who's close to his heart.
03:51There's just something special about Davey.
03:53He was a reservist when I did my first deployment in 2006.
03:58He was dead set, I'm joining the regular army.
04:01And we tried to hold him off, but he went over to Afghan.
04:06They were out doing a patrol and he ran over a very large IED.
04:10And never come back.
04:15How long was he in Afghanistan before?
04:18Not long at all.
04:20I think it was probably a month.
04:22Oh my God.
04:24How'd you find out?
04:25I felt a phone call, Sarge, I think Davey's dead.
04:31And I was like, nah, I spoke, spoke to him yesterday.
04:37You got a tattoo for him, right?
04:39Yeah, that's in my middle of my chest here.
04:40In the actual cross, it's got R.A.P. Davey.
04:44Burdened by the loss of his mate in service, Adam chose to redeploy to Afghanistan in 2012.
04:52I couldn't say no to going to Afghan because your mates go or go and some don't come back.
04:58So, you just sort of can't say no.
05:11When Australia joined the US-led war on terror in Afghanistan,
05:15the mission was to hunt Osama bin Laden, defeat his Al-Qaeda terrorists and overthrow the Taliban who harbored them.
05:28Over nearly two decades, there were almost 40,000 Australian troops deployed.
05:35Around 170,000 Afghans died in the war.
05:39America lost almost 2,500 soldiers.
05:45And while 41 Australians were killed in combat, at home, a far bigger toll was yet to come.
05:57You got a poppy for every Australian that died in Afghanistan.
06:05Now you're seeing a lot more veterans with the tattoos, and I think that it helps.
06:11That's becoming known as bomber therapy.
06:15I would say, yeah.
06:16The pain of getting a tattoo realistically lets you know you're alive.
06:20I mean, some people write journals and keep journals.
06:23My journal's in ink.
06:25Well, it feels right to put it into images.
06:28Yeah.
06:34The hundreds of years, the stories of war and the art that tells those stories was largely populated with heroes
06:42and battles.
06:43These generals on horses, flags above the battlement, nameless soldiers fallen in noble sacrifice.
06:52But the art of our most recent war in Afghanistan is so different.
06:58It's visceral, it's immediate, and it punches you in the gut.
07:03It is very, very personal.
07:13I took no paint to Afghanistan.
07:16I made lots and lots of film and took lots and lots of photographs and a pot of ink.
07:20And I thought that would lead to telling the story.
07:23The risk and the fear and the trauma and the danger of being there.
07:27In 2011, Ben Quilty was a celebrated and highly collected artist.
07:32And when he won the nation's most coveted art prize, his fame hit new heights.
07:37The 2011 Archibald Prize is awarded to Ben Quilty for Margaret Olley.
07:47That same year, the Australian War Memorial commissioned him as the official war artist to Afghanistan.
07:56I went in there pretty naive.
07:59I was the only one not carrying a weapon,
08:03which is an unusual feeling to be there unarmed in a war zone.
08:11Every single emotion was extreme and heightened,
08:15partly because you're living under this constant anxiety that you can be killed.
08:19And it was like nothing I'd ever seen and nothing I want to see again.
08:23I don't want to go back, that's for sure.
08:25Ben Quilty was following in the footsteps of a long line of official war artists
08:30whose role was to capture our troops at the coalface of conflict.
08:37The official war artists can be as political or as anti-war or as pro-war as they want.
08:44And that's a rare privilege, I think.
08:47Given the environment was special forces, is there a suspicion?
08:51Very suspicious.
08:52What's this artist doing here, this lefty?
08:55They didn't know who I was, they didn't know why I was there.
09:00Making a drawing of someone is very disarming because the person who's making the drawing has to opt out of
09:06the dialogue.
09:09They were very, very reticent to talk to me because it had been drilled into them.
09:14Do not talk to the media, never ever talk to the media.
09:20I had no idea who this guy was.
09:24We have to be careful in what we say here, that's what we're thinking, you know.
09:28Are you thinking why do we need an artist in Afghanistan?
09:31Absolutely, it's very strange.
09:34Daniel Spain was one of the youngest ADF personnel on Australia's main base.
09:39And he said, I want to take some photos of you guys doing some weird stuff.
09:44You know, I'm like, righto.
09:47So he says, look at the sun, and he took these photos of us.
09:52Ben's aim was to capture the human inside the uniform.
09:58Daniel Spain, he was so young, I was astonished.
10:02I asked him awkwardly when I realised how young he was,
10:06does your mother know what's happening here?
10:09And a huge tear welled in his eye.
10:11That was a real turning point for me.
10:14And that's why I have made that first painting of Daniel when I got back.
10:21I was there to tell the story of the troops.
10:25I felt aware that so many of the young men and women had this extra pressure.
10:30That they were bound by a contract not to speak about their service,
10:35not even to discuss how they felt.
10:46Recognising the crushing nature of this code of silence
10:50was a lightbulb moment for Ben.
10:54For me, the biggest story was not the combat zone,
10:57but more commonly the emotional wounds.
11:00Putting this thing that you felt and saw and heard into paint.
11:05Tell me, how does that happen?
11:07For me, the skin was everything.
11:09The way the uniform was cut to be boxy, aggressive, masculine.
11:14So I then asked them to strip off and pick a pose.
11:21Captain S was a young officer in Afghanistan.
11:25I asked him to pick a pose and he straight away said,
11:28yes, I know the pose.
11:30And he lay on his back in the unbelievably uncomfortable position.
11:36As we made the work, he told me the story of why that pose was important.
11:44And he said that there was many, many battles,
11:47but this one I remember for the physicality of being stuck on my back for so long.
11:51And they couldn't work out where they were shooting at him from.
11:55And he was with a very young soldier.
12:00And the friend was hit with a bullet, which went into his body and didn't come out.
12:07And I said, what did the young man say?
12:09He just kept saying over and over again, I don't want to die.
12:13I don't want to die.
12:24In this painting, I tried to leave as much of the skin blank.
12:29By leaving the skin white, it's like there's a bright light shining on it.
12:33And the light is everything that comes with the threat and the furious danger of being in a place like
12:39that.
12:40By 2013, Ben had painted 21 portraits, laying bare the trauma of return vets.
12:59It's just so vulnerable.
13:04I'm sure when Ben Quilty was on the base,
13:07this was not what the guys would have been expecting that he would come up with.
13:15Certainly quite different to an official war artists commission, maybe.
13:22It's definitely the cost of war.
13:30Pretty wild.
13:40The show's called After Afghanistan.
13:43Have you seen your painting yet before you turn up at the opening?
13:47No, I hadn't.
13:49And I was talking to someone and they're like,
13:51are you one of the guys that he painted in the nude?
13:54Are you thinking, what, what, nude?
13:55Yeah, what have I done? Did I forget?
13:56What the hell?
13:57Yeah, what was happening?
13:58Because I didn't, from my memory, I didn't pose nude for Ben Quilty.
14:04Do you think he captured something about you at that time in that painting?
14:12Absolutely.
14:16I was very much down on my luck.
14:19You know, feeling depressed and I was heading down a slippery slope.
14:24Yeah.
14:34Are you kind of home before you've processed where you've been?
14:41When I got out, I drank a lot.
14:44So you're not decompressed at all?
14:46No, no.
14:47I scared my kids.
14:52You go to dark places and like, because of the transition,
14:56when I got out, I was like, right, are you getting out of the army now?
14:59I was like, no house.
15:01Didn't know where the next dollar was going to come from as such.
15:04In my head, well, if I just write myself off,
15:09the wife and kids will get the money a lot quicker.
15:15The timeliness of the official opening and Ben reaching out,
15:21it couldn't have come at a better time.
15:24And that needed to happen to be where I am today.
15:30Through all that, Ben became quite an advocate
15:33because all his soldiers that he met
15:36had been having very similar experiences.
15:42Do you think what he was able to do with that work
15:46is an important role to have an artist witness war like that?
15:50I think every facet needs to be looked at.
15:53He's got two there where the body looks normal,
15:55but the head is just red and that's just like,
15:58almost like a pink mist.
16:01You'd say Ben captures the vulnerability of the returning soldier
16:06who's not like the photos of Yessi's war hero, right?
16:10No, it doesn't glorify her.
16:12What these paintings do,
16:14they put on the table the thing that we won't tell our families.
16:17The things that we won't, for embarrassment,
16:20or fear, or uncertainty of reception,
16:23we won't put in front of you as we walk down the street.
16:27A decade later, it wasn't a civilian like Ben Quilty,
16:31but a returned vet who continued this important conversation.
16:36And for her, it wasn't just art.
16:38It was evidence.
16:47In the army, you were taught loyalty up, loyalty down.
16:51So if you serve with diligence and loyalty,
16:53they'll look after you,
16:54and it just felt like that contract had been broken
16:56after we'd given so much.
17:00Artist Kat Ray served in the Australian military for 20 years,
17:05with multiple deployments in Afghanistan.
17:08Her husband, Andrew, also served there.
17:14Andrew, tell me about him coming back after his last deployment.
17:19Well, I didn't realise they'd done a suicide risk assessment on him,
17:23and I didn't know.
17:25I got a call to say,
17:28you'll need to come and collect him from Sydney Airport.
17:31With no awareness of...?
17:33No, they threw me, I guess, a hot potato as far as mental health.
17:40He was in chronic pain.
17:41Every part of his body was physically broken,
17:44and then there was also the mental health bit.
17:46I guess, increasingly, there was domestic violence against me as well,
17:50which became more and more dangerous to be around.
17:55In 2017, Andrew died by suicide.
18:04Harnessing her grief and anger, Kat found healing through her creative process.
18:11Oh.
18:12And produced an artwork...
18:14Oh, wow.
18:15...that is astonishing.
18:18She called it Death Min.
18:21Death Min is the actual paperwork from Andrew,
18:26which was his DVA files, his medical files.
18:31It's my height and the weight of Andrew.
18:34He was trying to get all of his claims in for the Department of Veterans Affairs.
18:39What was he asking for?
18:40He was asking for the support that you'd be entitled to,
18:43which is rehab and medical attention.
18:49This is, to me, an arguable totem of systemic failure on multiple levels.
18:56It's fragility as well because it has to lean against the wall,
18:59and when you join the army, you're not allowed to lean against the wall,
19:01you're not allowed to have your hands in your pockets or cross your arms.
19:04But this one has to lean against a wall because it will topple,
19:07and it's kind of defiantly doing so.
19:11How did that stack of paperwork become an artwork?
19:15I've just been keeping all of this paperwork from Andrew,
19:17and I was trying to discern what to keep and treasure for Imogen
19:22and what I really needed to release into a more positive
19:26and more powerful way of being and to kind of shed it from us.
19:33The conversation around veteran suicide finally gained national attention,
19:38and in July 2021, a Royal Commission was launched.
19:43Royal Commission into Defence and Veteran Suicide is now in session.
19:47Please be seated.
19:48Nearly 6,000 submissions were made, including cat rays,
19:53in an effort to find out how our nation had failed our vets.
19:57Defence has been really disappointing.
19:59They've still played the old game of cover-up, nothing to see here.
20:02It is them that needs to change.
20:08The Napier Wall of R Prize, which is for people who have served,
20:13or are currently serving.
20:14You won it for this work.
20:17It was in Parliament House.
20:19And this stopped our politicians in their tracks.
20:25I hope it shook things up a little bit.
20:27I mean, there was parts of this artwork which originated in Parliament House
20:32and we were petitioning for help.
20:35In September 2024, the Royal Commission released its findings.
20:41They were damning.
20:43We obviously feel that this report should be a line in the sand and a call to action.
20:48the Royal Commission into veteran suicides.
21:14It's such a powerful object for change.
21:18Where's the future for this piece of work?
21:22Well, the Governor-General has asked for it to go to her residence.
21:28That would be amazing.
21:29I would love that to happen.
21:31I hope it comes out of here and can speak to more people
21:35and be a reminder to leaders that so many families in Australia need this change.
21:50While affected families were begging the government for action on veteran suicides,
21:57the Australian War Memorial was listening.
21:59The result was a radical idea.
22:06We're here today to announce the Sufferings of War and Service sculpture at the Australian War Memorial,
22:12which will commemorate those who have experienced or witnessed the ongoing trauma that can result from military service.
22:21There needed to be some acknowledgment of veteran suicide.
22:26There was veterans reporting that they would stand in front of a heroic monument about death in the battlefield
22:30and not feel seen at all.
22:33Alex Eaton is a renowned sculptor known for his work in marble.
22:40So this is it.
22:43That's right.
22:44It's very beautiful.
22:45For every drop shed in anguish.
22:51The work consists of 18 large marble droplets.
22:57Their luminous forms suggesting blood, sweat or tears.
23:03So it was commissioned by the mothers whose children had died by suicide
23:10or other deaths that one might say is directly attributable to the service.
23:16That's absolutely correct.
23:18The more we know, the more you can't turn a blind eye to the need within the community to feel
23:24seen.
23:25This can no longer be just swept under the carpet.
23:31This idea of loss to find out where the tragedy lies.
23:36For me, it was all about choosing a stone that had poetry written into its surface.
23:4236 tons, eh?
23:43Yeah, it's a light load.
23:45This is beautiful Queensland marble from the traditional lands of the Wakaman people.
23:52So I was looking through the quarry and they kept showing me this beautiful white version of this.
23:57The pearl, the A grade.
23:58Perfect for the kitchen.
23:59But exactly.
24:00It's like, no, no, what about that stuff up there?
24:01They're like, oh, it's B grade, you don't want that.
24:03I'm like, that's exactly what I want.
24:06I want these that have the scars in them.
24:11Red iron scars become blood-like.
24:15And I think that sort of speaks to those injuries seen and unseen.
24:18And there's the idea that hopefully there's a sense of resilience to them, too, when you put your hands upon
24:24them.
24:30I'm struck by how they could make the intangible pain of grieving families tangible.
24:37And yet somehow feeling them brings a sense of calm.
24:44In this last year since this work has been open, there's been many tributes left around the work.
24:52When the community takes ownership of an artwork, it changes the nature of the work.
24:56And it becomes not just a place, it becomes a site.
24:59It becomes a site specifically to hold those memories.
25:04Now I'd like to show you some of the tributes that have been left around the work.
25:08Notes, medals, photographs, flowers.
25:12Let's have a look.
25:24I've got a photograph.
25:27As a mother of a boy that age, I just, I can't actually, like...
25:31Yeah.
25:33Yep.
25:38Whew.
25:42Every day my tears are silent and invisible.
25:45Some days I can't hide them, some days I can't control them.
25:52Remember you said to me, don't cry, Mum.
25:55I can't help but cry, Daniel.
25:58We miss you every moment of every day.
26:03My God.
26:08When Australia and Allied forces withdrew their troops in June 2021, many were left questioning the cost of the war.
26:19Amongst the soul-searching, however, one thing was clear.
26:25The art of this war had made the invisible visible.
26:30It was a truth-telling with our soldiers at the centre.
26:34And with vets themselves using art to heal, it's possibly changed the stories we tell about war forever.
26:43Has art got a role in educating and telling your stories for the broader public?
26:49Definitely. I mean, these tattoos, I suppose, because they're military, it becomes a bit of a talking point.
26:53And it sort of helps sort of break the ice.
26:59I feel like the role of the war artist is to say, this is what it felt like, this is
27:06what it cost.
27:08Yeah. Art is a vehicle to tell every emotion, to get it out of you, for people to see, to
27:14share the burdens, to share whatever it is you're dealing with.
27:19I mean, I felt like that was like an unburdening on my behalf.
27:23It was like, you can have it now. This is your responsibility.
27:27Oh my God, there he is.
27:29Yeah. Yeah.
27:33I really wanted it to be a call for arms for the people who could make decisions to improve things
27:40in the future.
27:42I'm just very glad that the tributes are being left and it becomes meaningful for them.
27:48I think that's all art can really do, is provide permission to feel a certain way, to say it's okay.
27:56It's part of your experience.
28:01Yeah.
28:28Next time, there was a very big story to tell here.
28:32I find something hidden amongst the nation's war machines.
28:37To come up with that.
28:38In the squalor of a prison camp.
28:40That reveals a story of prisoner of war survival I could never have imagined.
28:45We forget that this is what art can do.
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