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00:28This video is brought to you by Satsang.
00:31I'm sitting right here.
01:22I'm sitting right here.
01:29What?
01:30Oh, my God!
01:32Stop!
01:35He's a child.
01:36He has a right to privacy.
01:38He's a child.
02:04He's a child.
02:06He's a child.
02:08He's a child.
02:10He's a child.
02:12He's a child.
02:28Can I get 40 slims? Actually, 60, please, and a tall bottle of a car.
03:47Oh, for real. I can't believe I missed the game.
03:50Anything else happen?
03:52Oi, oi, toy, boy!
03:56She's got a nice pair of, you know, cool.
03:58Do you got this?
04:00Are these guys going to have his tits?
04:01No way!
04:02You're super!
04:03Can I have her number?
04:04You can miss it all from the web chat.
04:06You can't have a web chat, do you?
04:07And your mum's on the phone.
04:08No way!
04:12Literally, on the web chat.
04:13Did you do it in her car?
04:16Come on, Kyle, you got more pictures?
04:18I heard you smashed it.
04:19I heard you smashed it around the back of my house against a wheelie bit!
04:33I wish I'd read the signs. I thought she was just being young. Enjoying pubbing and clubbing.
04:39She's not that young. The way she was with the kids, acting like she's one of them.
04:44I mean, the guidelines are very clear.
04:47She cares about them. How can that be wrong?
04:50No, not like that. I can't.
04:54I wonder what the police found on her laptop.
04:57The kids are saying awful things about child pornography.
05:05Well, Izzy told me that Jenna posed as a child to join their instant messaging app.
05:13I can't believe that. Sorry, I mean, I just don't believe any of it.
05:16Well, you just never know the people.
05:20You heard from her at all?
05:23No, why would I?
05:24Well, it would just be interesting to find out her side of the story.
05:29Why? You've already made your mind up.
05:32The whole school have made their mind up.
05:34She's guilty till proven more guilty.
05:45I was expecting you at nine.
05:48I've got a lot to get through.
05:50They've brought the hearing forward to minimise press intrusion.
05:54Too late, I've already been intruded.
05:56Really? The story's broken already.
05:58Once you're charged, I'm afraid you're sort of thrown to the dogs.
06:02I mean, they're just writing lies about me.
06:04They're totally unprecedented lies.
06:06Well, please don't pay attention to it.
06:09Juries aren't supposed to.
06:10It's just unpleasant.
06:12Unpleasant is horrific.
06:14Do you have friends or family you can stay with?
06:16Well, I thought I had friends.
06:19Yeah.
06:22You'll soon find out who you real people are.
06:25I mean, why is my life of such pure in interest?
06:28There's murderers, celebrities, politicians.
06:31Well, one of them, I guess.
06:33The reader.
06:34Middle England.
06:36Nice lady slips up.
06:37Look, I don't...
06:38OK, so, I've reviewed the police files.
06:42There's no forensic evidence from you or Kyle.
06:46There is CCTV of you and him
06:49entering the toilets, coming out 15 minutes later.
06:53Here's the relevant section.
07:05OK, yeah, I get it.
07:06I couldn't tin it off.
07:07It's obviously Kyle's testimony
07:09and that of your colleagues
07:10and your own statement.
07:13Can you plead guilty to something
07:14you have absolutely no memory of?
07:16I'm assuming you plead not guilty,
07:18unless you...
07:19Yeah.
07:21Mr Revel is here.
07:22Are you 11 o'clock?
07:24Oh, he's early.
07:25Right, thanks.
07:28OK, so, I'm still waiting for the DI
07:30to give me the files from the phone and laptop.
07:34Is she likely to find anything incriminating on there?
07:37Like what?
07:38Naked pictures of my pupils?
07:40A subscription to Groomers Weekly?
07:42I have to clarify everything.
07:45I'm on your side, by the way.
07:48Look, let's reconvene when we've got those files.
07:51Perhaps when you're feeling less agitated.
07:52I would also recommend,
07:54in terms of convincing the judge,
07:57that your lifestyle isn't too chaotic.
08:00And no people drink when they're stressed.
08:03Stressed?
08:04Stressed?
08:05I want to block the days out.
08:06I don't know what to do.
08:08I'm just trying to think.
08:09Just remember what...
08:11What possessed me to throw my entire life...
08:19I don't know what to do.
08:25Look after yourself.
08:34Chill out, lad. Stop being annoying.
08:36Come on, bro. You gotta tell me something, man.
08:38How you leaving me hanging like this?
08:40Come on, tell me.
08:41Shut up, man.
08:42Whatever, listen, nah. Tell me tomorrow, yeah?
08:45You have to. Give me some tips, yeah?
08:47Alright, love you, bruv. You're a legend!
09:06Oi, miss. Miss!
09:09Oi, miss. Can I have a shack?
09:12Tants of kids, right, miss?
09:14Am I too old now because I'm 18?
09:15Come on, miss. Just a quick buck.
09:18You know where you live, slag.
09:20You know where you live.
09:23Give me a gold star on my cock.
09:28Fuck it, fuck it.
09:32We'll be waiting.
09:33We'll be waiting.
09:34You were nodding off 15-year-old, didn't you?
09:55It won't pull the blah.
09:57Oh, one ring off 15-year-old.
10:15You're이에 one more.
10:19Here's an ass.
10:20He's a double robber.
10:23The T tracing unexpectedly.
10:23I've knocked out!
10:32Hello, emergency. Which service do you require?
10:35Police. Somebody's urinated too. Out of the box.
10:39Okay. Are you in any place?
10:40Yeah, but I live on my own.
10:42Could I take your name and address, please?
10:47Hello? Could I have your address, please?
10:51Hello?
10:52What's the night?
10:54I made a mistake.
11:39Most of Carl's statement could easily be turned over.
11:43Wow. Nina really took the opportunity to advance.
11:47Is their statement to the police incorrect?
11:50Nah, I don't know. It just seems more like a character assassination.
11:55Why is there no statement from Jack?
11:58Jack?
12:00No, sorry. I just thought you might have something positive to add.
12:04If we could get back to Carl's statement. He also claims you invited him to the Lazarus Club.
12:09He's 15. Why on earth would I invite a kid to such a sleaze pit?
12:14You're offering down there?
12:15Yeah, well, I told the police I just go there for a dance, you know, to let off steam. No
12:20judgement.
12:22What else am I supposed to do? Go to all bar one? Have a bottle of Pinot with girls?
12:27What do you do to let off steam?
12:29I go home to my family.
12:31Well, I like a bit of messy fun at a disco.
12:33Well, the police will be talking to anyone who knows you from the Lazarus.
12:39Well, I don't think they'll find anything out. Nothing illegal, anyway.
12:46Did you ever talk about this aspect of your life with Carl?
12:52Um, the kids used to tease me, ask me where I'd been out. I don't know.
12:57I think they liked the idea of me being a bit wild, I guess. I don't know.
13:03So, Carl knew it might be a place you'd end up on a Friday night?
13:09Uh, where are you going with this?
13:14I don't think Carl's story will hold up under cross-examination.
13:20I mean, look at him, his background. Mother lurching between boyfriends, renting arrears.
13:26You know she was arrested for assault. And there's you.
13:30Outstanding references, two years teaching at the prestigious Hillsden Grammar,
13:34and 12 years at Earlbridge.
13:37You really think I can go back to being a head of English after this?
13:40Well, once you're proven innocent...
13:42Earlbridge will never have me back.
13:45Poor Ken already stuck his neck out trying to get me the promotion.
13:48Have you seen what's being said about me?
13:51Unfortunately, I have.
13:52The police have found other material online. It's troubling.
13:58It's a forum where kids share pictures of so-called hot teachers.
14:04Upskirt shots. Fan fiction.
14:11What?
14:12Oh, my God.
14:14There was also a bet on who'd have sex with you first.
14:18Me?
14:19Wait, hang on. These have been taken while I've been teaching.
14:24But they're old.
14:26What, and kids are posting these?
14:28Yeah.
14:29I think when you see it all together like this,
14:32it's usually part of a feed so it moves really quickly.
14:37Most of this is years old. Not posted by Kyle, but...
14:40So, how is this relevant now?
14:41Well, we can show the online culture around Kyle.
14:46How sex is normalised for these kids.
14:49They're not innocent victims.
14:51It's Kyle's word against yours.
14:53And we can build a profile.
14:55Kids like this are easy to break down.
14:57Kids like what?
14:59No, I don't want you breaking him down.
15:02I don't...
15:02I don't want him or me being dragged through the mud.
15:06You dissecting it, humiliating him.
15:09If we're to clear your name...
15:11How?
15:12How am I ever going to get away from this?
15:14How is my name ever going to be anything
15:16other than prefixed by...
15:18my pedo teacher?
15:58Good morning.
16:00The prodigal child returns.
16:03I assume you'll want your old room.
16:10You've got yourself in quite the pickle.
16:26I assume it's nonsense.
16:28Adolescents are inveterate liars.
16:30I'm surprised the police are taking it seriously at all.
16:34At least it's spelt correctly.
16:36Just going right over what you have for us.
16:36All the way?
16:48Good morning.
16:52Ok.
16:53Good morning?
16:53Good morning.
16:53חogly Bu profes reasons.
16:53aos喜аш cousin,
16:53just a Palace�,
16:55time for it.
16:56No way?
17:01Come on.
17:26Come on.
18:05Come on.
18:06Ah, Janet.
18:08Will you be contributing at all to your living costs while you're lodging here?
18:11What?
18:12Well, that's, uh, if you have an income currently or is it all on hold pending investigation, eh?
18:19Really, you'd be within your rights to sue that lying little moron.
18:23I have some savings.
18:24It'll be a stretch finding a decent post even when you're cleared.
18:28And this sort of nonsense doesn't help.
18:40I presume that's it for press interest now?
18:45Oh, I've, um, been trying to get hold of your headmaster.
18:51Ken, why? What do you want with him?
18:54Well, I want his assurance that all this...
18:56No, I don't want you involved.
18:58It's fine. Just leave it.
18:59It'll be over soon.
19:00Press will get bored.
19:01I'll go home.
19:02I don't want you involved.
19:03Oh, well, it rather looks like I am.
19:06You see, this is what we do, isn't it?
19:09You make a mess and I pick up the pieces.
19:12I don't want anything from you.
19:13Yeah, other than free board in my house.
19:15It's not your house. It's Mum's house.
19:26Oh.
19:39Hi.
19:40Hello.
19:41OK, so I got your computer files back from the police.
19:44There's nothing of interest.
19:46No.
19:47How are you?
19:50I want the ground to swallow me up.
19:52I know what that means now.
19:54I really know.
19:56Is there someone you can stay with?
20:00I'm at my father's house.
20:02In my old room.
20:04That's good.
20:05That's good.
20:06That's nice.
20:07Oh, yeah.
20:08OK, so...
20:10The police did find something else.
20:12What?
20:13Pictures sent from a messaging app from your phone to Kyle's.
20:18It was sent the night just before Kyle alleges the offence occurred.
20:23Softly pornographic content.
20:25My breasts.
20:26What?
20:28No.
20:29I...
20:29I don't use that app.
20:30I don't...
20:31I have it.
20:32That...
20:33That's for kids to send each other shit.
20:35But they were on your phone.
20:37Well, I've never used it.
20:38I don't use it.
20:40OK, well...
20:41The police can trace who the account's registered to.
20:44No, but hang on.
20:45I do...
20:45I do remember some notifications and Jack saying something, but...
20:52I mean...
20:53I don't do social media.
20:54I don't even have Facebook.
20:56Seriously.
20:57The facts state otherwise, Jenna.
20:59And we'll be seen as grooming.
21:24I don't even have Facebook.
21:24I don't use it.
21:50Oh, Fouts?
21:52Is that wise?
22:16Hello.
22:17Hey.
22:20I'm sorry I've not been in touch.
22:23It's all right.
22:24I wouldn't want to be in touch with me either, I know.
22:31Do you think it's a good idea, us meeting here?
22:34No, I just wanted...
22:36Are they okay?
22:38The kids, you know.
22:40When I feel so useless, I feel pointless, you know, sitting around waiting till all this.
22:46When I should be helping them.
22:48My year 11s.
22:50Listen, I was angry at that.
22:53I didn't know what to say or what to...
22:55It doesn't matter, no.
22:56Nothing's ever going to be the same.
22:59Are they okay?
23:01You know, with their exams and stuff?
23:04I mean, I feel like I've left them at such a crucial time, you know.
23:07It's taken all my mind not to reach out to them.
23:09I just feel like, you know, I was there one minute and then I was gone.
23:12I just hope...
23:14I hope you don't feel abandoned.
23:17No.
23:18No.
23:26That night...
23:28I don't know.
23:29I don't remember.
23:30I did want to get in touch.
23:32Sooner.
23:33I did.
23:35I just...
23:35I didn't know where I stood.
23:38I didn't know where we stood.
23:40Listen.
23:44I know this is bad, but whatever's happened, I'm still his teacher.
23:48And, erm, I'd be breaking the terms of my veil.
23:53But could you give this to Kyle for me?
23:55Or you could just read it and tell him what's in it.
23:58I'm not your go-between.
24:00Is that what you wanted to meet?
24:02Here?
24:05Oh, my God, Jenna.
24:08It's all about him.
24:10No, I mean, that's his teacher.
24:12That's all I meant.
24:13You can read it.
24:14Jack!
24:14Jack!
24:46I forgot this.
24:49It's your thing the police didn't take.
25:21The hearing's in two weeks.
25:23We say how you want to plea, and then trial date is set.
25:27Why go to trial?
25:29Why?
25:30To defend your case.
25:32I don't remember anything.
25:34Look, if Kyle said it happened...
25:37then it happened.
25:40Sorry, are you saying you don't want to contest this boy's claim?
25:44Well, Kyle's a good kid, I know him.
25:46He wouldn't lie.
25:48I know my kids, they're all good kids.
25:50But me, I mean...
25:53Police start asking around about me, you know what they'll find out?
25:56I'm a slag.
25:58Chaotic slag with a drink problem.
26:01Can't even remember half the guy she slept with.
26:04Can't even remember sending these naked pictures from some app.
26:08They'll lay out my sad little car crash of a life
26:10for all the world to pour over.
26:12And then you'll dredge up all that stuff about Kyle.
26:15His mum's history.
26:16She got him into that school and she works hard.
26:19She even pays for extra tuition, you know, to give him the best.
26:22That's all hanging by a thread now.
26:24Nonetheless, once his statement is held up to scrutiny...
26:27No, scrutiny is what I do not want.
26:30I don't want to go to trial.
26:32Whatever I did...
26:35I'm guilty.
26:36You can't just...
26:40This case needs to be deliberated and judged.
26:45And also, I don't feel I can support a guilty plea if you didn't do it.
26:49I can yet enter a not guilty plea if I did do it.
26:53If you tell me you did it...
26:55No.
26:56I can't consciously support a not guilty plea.
27:07I don't know.
27:11You want to plead guilty to the charge of abuse of a position of trust?
27:18Sexual activity with a child?
27:19Yes.
27:21Yes.
27:21That holds a prison sentence of...
27:23Look, I don't care about the sentencing.
27:25I am not going to trial.
27:53I am not going to trial.
27:56I was just checking your book to cab.
27:59I was going to drive.
28:00Right.
28:00No.
28:02If you get a prison term, you'll be taken into custody right away.
28:05Make sure you bring cash, change of clothes, medication.
28:11You can buy cigarettes in prison, but you can't bring them in.
28:15And there are no phones allowed, so make sure you jot down any numbers.
28:21Jenna?
28:24Yes.
28:24We're just preparing for the worst and hoping for the best.
28:28You can still change it, please.
28:30No.
28:31No, no, I want to be sentenced.
28:32No trial.
28:41Offer a job interview.
28:42Are you going out somewhere?
28:46Yeah, I did tell you.
28:47Dry stone rolling course.
28:50Swaledale.
28:51Been booked for months.
29:12Try not to have any wild parties while I'm away.
29:15You're going out somewhere.
29:24You're going out somewhere.
29:29You're going out somewhere.
29:30You're going out somewhere.
29:32You're going out somewhere.
29:33You're going out somewhere.
29:34You're going out somewhere.
29:34You're going out somewhere.
29:34You're going out somewhere.
29:35You're going out somewhere.
29:36You're going out somewhere.
29:37You're going out somewhere.
29:38You're going out somewhere.
29:39You're going out somewhere.
29:56Scaring me out!
30:13Six months suspended is good, very good, considering.
30:16I didn't even know community payback was a thing.
30:19What do I have to do?
30:20Clean some graffiti or pick up some litter.
30:22200 hours is reasonable.
30:24In public, in a high-vis vest with everyone looking at me.
30:27It's supposed to be challenging.
30:29It's a punishment for a crime you committed.
30:31I'd rather have been locked up.
30:35Oh, God.
30:40Will I ever be able to teach again?
30:42We did cover this.
30:44You've been placed on the sex offenders register for ten years,
30:47and you're on the children's Bard list,
30:50which means it's a criminal offence to even apply for a teaching job.
30:54You can request removal in ten years' time.
30:58You were aware of this.
31:00I did suggest you please.
31:01Let's get you out of here.
31:05What's he doing at the sentencing?
31:15I'm so sorry.
31:16I've got a hearing to attend to.
31:25I'm so sorry.
31:28I've got a hearing to attend to.
32:07I'm so sorry.
32:10Oh, my God.
32:47Oh, my God.
33:12Oh, my God.
33:35Oh, my God.
33:41Oh, my God.
33:47Oh, my God.
34:04Oh, my God.
34:06Oh, my God.
34:07Oh, my God.
34:56Oh, my God.
35:09Oh, my God.
35:16Oh, my God.
35:46Oh, my God.
35:56Oh, my God.
36:18Oh, my God.
36:42Oh, my God.
36:45Yes, yes, that's right.
36:46I fucked a kid so daddy would know it's me.
36:48Well, there it is.
36:49Hey, the filth, the sarcasm when you should be abject, begging forgiveness, hiding your face.
37:08Dad.
37:25Here, here.
37:26Here.
37:30Get out of my way.
37:36What do you expect me to do next, Dad?
37:40Go hang for all I can.
37:42No, genuinely, I want to know.
37:44What do you think I'm going to do next?
37:46I don't know.
37:48I keep ruining my life.
37:51Keep shaming me until I can't show my face anymore.
37:54Oh, well, good, good to know, because clearly I can.
37:56Clearly I'm getting a rise out of you,
37:58so I'll just keep on shaming upstanding
38:00pillar of the community, Roger.
38:06Just take the fucking water!
38:23This is horrible.
38:26You're horrible.
38:29What have I ever done, hmm?
38:33Do I deserve this?
38:35Really?
38:39You're just like your mother.
38:41Oh, good, there it is.
38:43I wondered how long until you trundled out your go-to put down.
38:46Just one big difference between me and Mum, Roger.
38:50I won't make your life easier by topping myself.
39:14All right, two o'clock, I'll take a break.
39:21Six hours down, 294 to go.
39:25What are you in for, then?
39:27Out for?
39:28Sorry, you don't have to answer that.
39:30You just don't look like the usual offender.
39:35I'm a sex offender.
39:37What?
39:39Like...
39:39Sex offender.
40:04You guys want to pay FIFA?
40:06Yeah, sure.
40:06Nah, I can't.
40:09What?
40:10Busy now you've got a baby coming?
40:11What?
40:12Facebook.
40:13Dude, you knocked up Ms Carvey.
40:15Fuck off.
40:16It was a joke, man.
40:17Where are you going?
40:18It's Rossi, Brian.
40:19You're still hanging out with him?
40:20I'm not hanging out with him, all right?
40:22He's my fucking tutor.
40:23You don't have such a dick all the time.
40:24Well, right, man.
40:34Kyle!
40:36Jenna!
40:38What's going on?
40:39Jenna!
40:40Jenna!
40:57Kyle!
40:59Kyle!
41:04Kyle, please wait.
41:07Kyle!
41:10Look, please.
41:11Just wait, wait, wait.
41:12I'm sorry.
41:14I'm sorry.
41:14I've been trying to get hold of you.
41:15I know I'm not supposed to, but I just want to say I'm so sorry.
41:19I just...
41:19I wanted to tell you that you did the right thing, okay?
41:23Going to the police, I don't resent or blame you for all the fallout.
41:27I just...
41:28I just...
41:29I just hope I haven't ruined intimacy for you, you know?
41:33I hope you can go on to have healthy relationships
41:36and not be affected by all this.
41:40Shit.
41:40Why did you plead guilty?
41:44Sorry?
41:46If you say that you don't remember what happened,
41:49then why did you plead guilty?
41:52Well, because you said...
41:55You said that's what happened.
41:57Are you once a pastor?
41:57Come on.
42:07I'm once aader...
42:11I'm once a pen, but...
42:29Yeah?
42:31Yeah?
42:32D, I celebrate.
42:42Is this a good time?
42:46Can I come in?
42:56I've had a report from your community payback supervisor.
43:01Look, I'm sorry, it was just a coincidence.
43:04I mean, he passed by. I couldn't just ignore it.
43:06Well, you're going to have to, Jenna.
43:09The terms of your sentence is very clear.
43:11I know, I get it. I didn't think so.
43:15Well, this time, you'll get away with a fine, but, er...
43:19You could end up going to prison. You do realise that?
43:24It's just hard, you know? I mean...
43:26This is a child I've taught for five years.
43:29I think about him, his welfare, his state of mind, you know?
43:33All the kids, not just him.
43:35I can't help it.
43:38Okay.
43:41Official warning delivered.
43:46Um...
43:47Listen, I just... I just wondered...
43:51If I'd have not pleaded guilty, would I have been convicted?
43:58I can't answer that.
44:04It really doesn't help to dwell too much on what ifs.
44:08I know, but just in your experience...
44:13I'd have pushed for a conviction.
44:17Whether the kid would have held it together under cross-examination.
44:21But, I mean, the CCTV footage and his voicemail...
44:24The instant messages sent to Kyle from my phone, the pictures...
44:27I mean, that would have incriminated me anyway, right?
44:29The instant messaging account wasn't registered to you.
44:33What?
44:33You set it up under an Aries, which shows your actions were premeditated.
44:38No. No, I didn't.
44:41Okay. Um...
44:43These are questions for your solicitor.
45:10Ava Mansuri.
45:11Please leave a message.
45:13Ava is Jenna.
45:15Ava, it's Jenna.
45:15I didn't send the naked pictures, did we know that?
45:19Ava, I think he lied about us.
45:23Kyle lied.
45:38And the teacher continues tomorrow at nine.
45:41And if you or someone you know has been affected
45:43by any of the issues raised in tonight's programme,
45:45please go to channel5.com slash helplines
45:47for information and support.
45:49Next, a brand new true crime documentary,
45:52a shocking case that unravelled in real time.
45:55Gabby Petito, the murder that gripped the world.
45:57Don't go anywhere.
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