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It will be awhile before the Miami Heat have an early draft pick, but is that truly a negative in the team's trade for Giannis Antetokounmpo? The Joe Rose Show discusses this, plus whether Giannis or Messi is the biggest sports star in Miami now.
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00:00This is a big one here, and I'm just talking to some of the people in the hall here.
00:03Giannis, already the biggest star.
00:06He probably hasn't even physically landed here in South Florida yet,
00:09but he's already the biggest star in our town.
00:11Hold on a second, though.
00:13Have you seen Messi in this World Cup?
00:16The guy's got six goals already in two games.
00:18I know, but I think he had another hat trick.
00:21No.
00:21Oh, I'm sorry.
00:22Five goals.
00:23Five goals.
00:24I apologize.
00:25Yeah, I don't count very well, but three goals in the first game,
00:28two goals in the second.
00:29So now he's the owner of the World Cup scoring record, correct?
00:33He is.
00:34Yeah.
00:34All right.
00:35Let's do this, guys.
00:36Let's jump out to the phones here.
00:38We got Brian, who is up first this morning with us on QAM.
00:41Hey, Brian, how you doing?
00:47Dan, we got Brian here.
00:48Who do we got?
00:49This is Daniel.
00:51This is the other caller.
00:52Caller, you're on the air.
00:55Good morning.
00:56Good morning.
00:56How you doing?
00:56Who's this?
00:58This is Daniel.
00:59I worked out at Aventura.
01:01How you doing, man?
01:02Long time.
01:03Great.
01:03Long time invested.
01:04He fan.
01:05Whole family.
01:07This is reminiscent.
01:08Great, great morning.
01:09Reminiscent of when we shipped out Lamar Odom and Karam Butler,
01:13and we had some mixed feelings about some beloved Heat fans going out,
01:17or Heat players going out, and Shaq coming back.
01:20That turned out very well for us.
01:23One point I wanted to make.
01:25The second point is, I really hope we start Pella Larson, Davion Mitchell,
01:30Wiggins, and Giannis out of Bayou and have an amazing defensive team that can
01:35play both ways.
01:37Bring Norman Powell off the bench with Bobby Portis to kind of prevent those
01:42defensive matchups that were a headache at the end of last season.
01:45So, excited.
01:47Thank you, guys.
01:48Keep the show rolling.
01:49Thank you, Danny.
01:50Appreciate the call, my friend.
01:52Again, that number is 305-567-0560 if you'd like to jump in here with us.
01:58I think we have one more call we want to try to get in here.
02:02Dan, do we have Brian here?
02:04Brian, go ahead.
02:06Hey, good morning, guys.
02:08Morning, Brian.
02:08How you doing?
02:09Good, man.
02:10Just here taking it in, right?
02:13Awesome morning.
02:13I agree with Omar.
02:15You know, I think Bobby Portis coming in is like, we needed that.
02:18We needed, like, kind of a UD enforcer.
02:22I'm not saying he's the main package, obviously, but it's been, like, it's awesome addition
02:27to that.
02:28And, obviously, seeing the Twitter meltdown, everyone crashing on Pat Riley yesterday, and
02:34everyone's mad.
02:35Like, I'm glad.
02:36It's over.
02:37Pat Riley is still here.
02:39The Heat are still.
02:40That organization that people, that whales do want to come to.
02:44And I'm glad that we can just put that to bed and move on, and let's go deep.
02:48Let's see how it goes.
02:50Sounds good.
02:51Brian, thank you for the call.
02:54Yeah, it's definitely a good feeling here this morning to know that the Heat still do have
03:00that juice, and they are still able to land that star power here.
03:06Dono Omar, man, does it, it feels good this morning to get this done, doesn't it?
03:12You know, when I knew Giannis was coming here, it was probably about a month.
03:16A week in the morning when they sent the tweet out?
03:18No, it was probably a month ago when he was at the airport taking pictures with everybody.
03:23I think it was like a day stop before he went to Spain for an F1 race, and he was,
03:31you know,
03:31he put up a video.
03:33He put up some of his posts, and it included Flowrider music.
03:38There was another song that started with Miami.
03:42You know, it was all coded.
03:44If you pay attention to a player's Instagram, it's all coded messaging.
03:49I'm pretty sure he's been, yeah, Chad Ochocinco said, who's well-connected in the housing market.
03:55Chad Ochocinco said he's been shopping for houses in Miami.
04:00This was a done deal, baby.
04:02I think South Florida lured another one in.
04:05Yeah, I don't look at it like that personally.
04:07Like, and Don, I'm sorry.
04:08I just, for me, like, I think that this came down to two teams.
04:14And, I mean, you can only go by what you're told here.
04:17But, yeah, I think it came down to two teams, and I think Gianna's probably comfortable going to either one.
04:22Milwaukee had to make a decision, right?
04:23Milwaukee had to make, it was a pretty simple decision.
04:26Do you want to bring in a guy like Jalen Brown and, you know, try to stay relevant and go
04:31for it
04:31or whatever they thought they could do with him on the roster?
04:34Or do you want the package of draft picks and young guys?
04:38And they went for the package of, you know, the draft picks and the youth.
04:42And so the Heat had an intriguing, you know, offer.
04:46I think the Celtics obviously had an intriguing offer.
04:49I think it's fantastic that the Celtics seem to have pissed off Jalen Brown to the point of no return.
04:54I mean, I think that's really great because I can't stand that franchise and anyone over there.
04:59So I think that it's really just fantastic what they've now done.
05:02And so they'll have to trade him, you would think.
05:06Right, Dono?
05:07That seems like the next domino to fall here in the NBA.
05:09Well, that was something that was brought up.
05:11And, again, sometimes you don't know what's true and what's not because the media gets played a lot.
05:17They get played by agents.
05:18They get played by team sources.
05:20But I do remember it said that if Boston didn't trade Jalen Brown to Milwaukee for Giannis,
05:26that they still could trade him somewhere else, that he's on the trading block regardless.
05:29But definitely, guys, like I think the media got played by interested sources in this move
05:36because we had some of the same national reporters who were saying a couple days ago,
05:41like Giannis wants to go to Miami.
05:43That's where he wants to go.
05:44Last night, you know, I'm seeing content where an NBA reporter is like,
05:48no, he wants to be in Boston.
05:49He never wanted to be in Miami.
05:51It's like, what are we doing here?
05:53Misdirection on all sides.
05:54It's the pump fake, Dono.
05:57It's the make them sweeten their offer, make them throw in something extra.
06:02I am shocked that Miami got Bobby Portis in this deal.
06:06And, again, I tell you guys, I'm a fan of guys who play with energy and effort.
06:13And he is one of those players where it just stands out to me.
06:18So, you know, I don't know, you know, one, I didn't care what he gave up.
06:25Same.
06:26As long as it didn't involve Bam, I didn't care what went.
06:32I would have sent Bam, too, if I had to.
06:34That's why you're glad.
06:35I don't make these deals, thankfully, because I would have sent him anything they wanted.
06:39I think Pat has already told us Bam is not on the Bam is not tradable commodity.
06:45Now, didn't he tell us how our hero wasn't a tradable commodity, too?
06:48Well, that was a bluff, obviously.
06:51Well, look, Tyler was going to be the centerpiece of the deal, right?
06:55And he'll get his opportunity to essentially be, I guess, a number one over there in Milwaukee.
07:01By the way, I wish nothing but the best for Tyler here.
07:03I don't want to sound like taking a swipe at him.
07:05Like, I appreciate everything he did here.
07:08I think he's the best player.
07:09Sure.
07:10And I certainly wish him the best.
07:12Listen, we can be honest right now.
07:15We can honestly be honest right now.
07:17I am.
07:17And, yes, it would be easy to crap on him on his way out.
07:19But I don't.
07:20It's not about crapping on him.
07:22I don't have those feelings towards Tyler here at all.
07:24Tyler was never clutch.
07:27Tyler never played defense.
07:30And Tyler was injury prone.
07:34Yeah.
07:34No, no, no.
07:35I mean, good riddance.
07:37Sorry.
07:38He just never got into heat culture.
07:41All right.
07:41Let's go to Joe.
07:43You're up next here on QAM.
07:44Hey, Joe.
07:45Good morning.
07:46Hey, fellas.
07:47Good morning.
07:47How are you guys doing today?
07:49Good, man.
07:49How about you?
07:51Good, good.
07:51I just want to say I think this trade was definitely the move that the Heat needed.
07:56You know, sometimes a hurricane comes in, the house goes down.
08:00You know, you got to rebuild that house.
08:02You get me?
08:02And I believe the Heat really made that a good deal as far as rebuilding our house.
08:08You know, it's been a long time.
08:09And I truly believe in what Pat and the organization is honestly doing.
08:13And honestly, as for the Panthers, you know, that's a great trade they did on them, too.
08:18They got the Kachuk brothers, two gold medal winners.
08:21You know, we still got to figure out the goalie situation.
08:24But I truly believe that Bill Zito is doing a great job what they're doing as well.
08:28Two Stanley Cups.
08:29And, you know, what else can they do next?
08:31You know, we're only looking forward to the future from there at this point.
08:35Well, Joe, appreciate the call.
08:37And, yeah, man, big days for both of our teams here.
08:42It's amazing.
08:43Like, the hockey from yesterday, if you didn't catch that one, Brady Kachuk signing alongside his brother, Matthew Kachuk.
08:52You got Team USA playing up there in Sunrise now.
08:56You got Team Greece over here now in Miami with Giannis.
09:02Listen, I'll tell you guys, Giannis and Bam together is going to be an interesting one to watch.
09:08Those are two of the most physically gifted players in the NBA, right?
09:14You talk about guys that are just big, bruising bodies.
09:18Like, those two together down there.
09:20Man, that's going to make life very, very tough for opposing teams.
09:26And you look at, like, let's look at a team that just won in the Knicks, right?
09:29I mean, I think you got, you know, guys that can match up right now.
09:33And I don't know how the rest of this roster is going to take shape here.
09:35Are they able to keep Wiggins?
09:37Are they able to maybe rework his contract to keep Norman Powell in the mix?
09:42You got Davion Mitchell at the point guard spot, who's a very feisty defensive player.
09:47So, I think the Heat matchup with everyone, guys in the Eastern Conference, I think, to me, this instantly puts
09:53them in the conversation for top four.
09:59We just say that, you know, conservatively here this morning, that they are a home court advantage playoff type of
10:06team here.
10:06I think that's fair, right?
10:08I mean, you're a top four team, but you also have a league MVP caliber superstar who's won a championship
10:15before, is capable of getting that done, knows what it takes to get that done.
10:19So, you're absolutely in the mix now.
10:22You know, for the last few years, your ceiling was, hey, maybe you can win a playoff series, right?
10:27Now, your ceiling is maybe you can win a championship.
10:30And that's why you make a deal like this.
10:32That's why you bring in a superstar, because you can't win without superstars.
10:36New York, Detroit, Cleveland, Boston, those are the top teams in the East, and I think you're right in there.
10:45It's not to be Boston anymore, unless, you know, they'll get something for Jalen Brown.
10:50I don't think he's going to be moved.
10:52He's on one of those, like, super maxes.
10:54Oh, man, I don't know.
10:56He may tell you guys, go screw yourselves at this point, though.
11:00You got to know that that's potentially.
11:02We talked about this before this all even started to go down here, that if Boston messed around and offered
11:09him up, that there could be a little bit of a blowback from him.
11:13You know, he seems like the kind of guy who can get difficult if he wants to.
11:17Yeah.
11:18And there you go.
11:19So, I mean, it happens.
11:22I mean, who are they trading him to?
11:24So, where is he going to have the opportunity to be a number one?
11:28I think that Atlanta has been mentioned.
11:31I'm not necessarily certain that that's going to get done.
11:35And if you're with Boston, are you really going to go to Atlanta just so you could be a number
11:39one?
11:40I think there's nothing stopping him from being a number one in Boston.
11:43He showed you he could do it last year.
11:46Why do you have to?
11:48Why do you think stopping him would be Jason Tatum?
11:51Yeah, yeah.
11:51But why does he have to?
11:53He was the MVP of the finals when they won.
11:55Like, why do you have to pay second fiddle to Jason Tatum?
11:59I think.
12:01Anyway, it'll be interesting to see.
12:03That's their problem.
12:05We've got a long issue.
12:07Very well said.
12:08That's their problem.
12:09I was talking about Bill Simmons earlier.
12:11Like, yeah, and by the way, I found out that Bill Simmons was still in the business through this process.
12:15I had no idea he was even still doing shows or whatever.
12:19Whatever it is that he does.
12:20He's on the Levitard program where they're their own entities.
12:24So, you know, I really, to be honest, didn't know he was still doing anything.
12:28But good for him.
12:30Anyway, let's go back.
12:31Take a couple more phone calls here really quick.
12:34Dan, who do we have next?
12:35We have John next.
12:36Is that who we got here?
12:37Let's go to John.
12:38You're up on QAM.
12:40Good morning, John.
12:41Yes.
12:42Let's talk about bullfighting.
12:45All right.
12:46Fair enough.
12:47Let's go to...
12:48By the way, this is the risk we take here.
12:49I understand that when we do this.
12:52Let's go to Josh.
12:54You're up next.
12:55You're up to QAM.
12:55Hey, Josh.
12:57Hey, good morning, guys.
12:59I'm good.
13:00I'm good.
13:01Turn your window up, Josh.
13:02Like, what is going on there?
13:04Take us off speakerphone.
13:06I got a Mustang, and I'm driving, bro.
13:09I can't help that.
13:10That's all right.
13:12Don't listen to Omar.
13:13Just tell us what you got here.
13:14Josh, go ahead.
13:16This is a horrible trade, bro.
13:18I think everybody's forgetting what happened the last time.
13:20We mortgaged the farm for Shaq.
13:23We got a ring.
13:25Yes, but then he was gone two years later.
13:27We had D-Wade.
13:28Okay, and?
13:30Where's our D-Wade right now?
13:32You want to give up all these guys?
13:34You want to give up the future?
13:35You want to give up the picks for one championship?
13:37Sir, you had me at We Got a Ring.
13:40Give me another ring.
13:42One ring.
13:43But we had Wade.
13:45Where's our D-Wade to go with Giannis?
13:48Come on, man.
13:49Giannis just broke down.
13:50Giannis is always getting injured.
13:52We always stopped Giannis in the playoffs.
13:54Giannis wasn't a problem for us.
13:57Now he's going to be our problem, because he's going to be hurt the next two, three years.
14:01And we ain't going to get nothing back for him, man.
14:03You guys need to open your eyes.
14:05He's a big name, but he ain't a beat-all and end-all in the East, man.
14:08I bet you we don't even make the playoffs this year.
14:11Very possible.
14:12All right, Josh.
14:14Why do the Knicks fans have to rain on our parade this morning?
14:17Don't you have enough already?
14:19Is that what you feel, that he's a Knicks fan?
14:22I mean, I can't imagine anything else.
14:24Like, here's the thing, man.
14:26Like, you could put the most negative spin possible on this thing.
14:29What is the most negative spin, though?
14:31Hold on.
14:32They gave up too much.
14:33They don't have a team.
14:35What do we give up?
14:37Tyler, hero?
14:38Omar, they gave up a lot.
14:40I mean, I would rather not have not given up Triple J.
14:44Okay, so that's hero.
14:46I'm sorry.
14:47We did our best.
14:48We polished him up.
14:49We packaged him right.
14:50We made him an all-star.
14:51It's the wrong take this morning, Omar.
14:52It's not a take that needs to be entertained, to be quite honest.
14:55And also, like, okay, he kind of, he went real downer at the end when he's like, oh, we probably
15:01won't make the playoffs.
15:02But he started off the call by saying, you're doing this to win one championship?
15:07And I'm like, yes, I'll take any championship.
15:11What has this team been doing for the past, you know, decade plus?
15:1513 years since the last championship.
15:17Yeah, give me a championship.
15:18Yeah, that's a really weird trade that can win one championship.
15:22Texter goes, that guy's probably terrible at parties.
15:24Yeah, it's not exactly the guy I'd want to have a beer with today.
15:27Well, hold on.
15:27You bring up a very interesting point.
15:29What is the negative?
15:31Okay, we don't have draft picks for a while.
15:33I don't care about that because the Heat never really needed draft picks.
15:37I mean, look, man, did you want, were you going to tune in tonight to ESPN to watch the draft
15:41and hear them draft?
15:42Like, we're going to be jumping up and down when they go, with the 13th pick, the Heat select, Yaxo
15:47Lomdenberg from Michigan.
15:49Like, who cares, man?
15:50Who cares, right?
15:52Why, you think he's still there at 13?
15:53That's actually a pretty good player.
15:55I don't know.
15:55Yeah, thanks, Dono.
15:58Look, Giannis, and I like the, let's just take one more call, see if we can end this on.
16:02Please don't.
16:03Darren, Darren, there's a lot of pressure on you to bring us back here, right?
16:07Darren, Darren, you are like the final hope of the Mohicans here for callers.
16:13All right, go ahead, buddy.
16:14What do you got?
16:16Man, people just want to complain to be complaining.
16:19They wasn't complaining, but they were still complaining when we was in the play-in tournament every year.
16:24But anyways, I think we went from a bad team to a great team.
16:30I still think there's one more move that we need to make.
16:33Like, I don't know if Memphis is still trying to just give away John Morant, but I would definitely kick
16:40the tires on that.
16:41Maybe a culture change would do him good.
16:44Not necessarily the environment of Miami, but putting him in that culture might change him.
16:51And Pat Riley loves disgruntled players like that.
16:55But if we can get a player like that on the cheap some kind of way, man, we might have
17:00a new Miami-New York rivalry.
17:04Well, I appreciate the call here, Darren.
17:06And it's interesting.
17:07Darren, you saved all callers.
17:09You saved all callers today, Darren.
17:11You've been big on John Morant, Omar.
17:13Look, I don't know, to be quite honest, at this point, if the Heat have a whole heck of a
17:16lot left to give up.
17:18I don't know what offer they could make that would even be remotely attractive at this point.
17:25I also know that Memphis has the third pick in the draft.
17:27They're probably going to get Boozer tonight.
17:29And so they are going to have a decent little team over there.
17:33I don't know.
17:34I don't know, guys, what the Heat can do to add to this roster.
17:37It does seem like they are relatively limited here.
17:40But the first thing it seems like they're going to have to do is rework this Wiggins deal.
17:45He's got a player option.
17:46He can opt out of that.
17:47They could try to rework something with him.
17:49I think hand, re-signing hand is there.
17:51They can keep Norman Powell.
17:54So there's a lot of things left to go here.
17:57But the main news, obviously, is that the Heat got Giannis this morning.
18:02And about 1 in the morning, that thing officially popped up.
18:06305-567-0560 is how you reach us on the text.
18:09And on the phones as well.
18:11So phone lines are open.
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