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00:11Mr. Jackson, we're back here after the lunch break.
00:15Did anything occur at a lunch break that would affect your ability to recall or recount information?
00:21No.
00:25Are you familiar with a person named Jody Chandler?
00:30We're not going there.
00:32Um, don't answer.
00:34Um, we're not going to get into who he knows and doesn't know.
00:38If you want to ask a question, go ahead and ask it.
00:40But I believe it's beyond the scope of discoverable matters in the case.
00:47Michael Jackson is sitting there smiling.
00:49Of course he knows Jody Chandler.
00:52Is it your position that you will instruct Mr. Jackson not to answer any questions
00:57that pertain to the issue of Jody Chandler in any way?
01:03This was the first allegation of abuse against Michael Jackson.
01:08The Chandler case took place about 10 years prior to the case involving Gavin.
01:13I wanted the jury to understand that this guy's done this before.
01:18I wanted to bring in that evidence to show that he has a propensity to commit sex crimes.
01:23It could change the outcome of this case.
01:26The Jackson jury to hear past child sex claims.
01:30This is a critical ruling.
01:33Where there's smoke, there's fire.
01:34It's very compelling evidence.
01:37And every time I have done that on a child molest case, I've won.
01:54Neverland.
01:54This fantasy island that he created was a huge piece of property with multitudes of staff.
02:03I believe some of the cleaning staff, the senior staff, the secretaries, the security people,
02:09knew what was going on.
02:12I am convinced some of them are complicit.
02:17How could they not have known?
02:20They knew when to stay away and where to stay away.
02:25They understood that, you know, as long as you work here,
02:27don't dare ever think about even mentioning what goes on here to anybody.
02:32There will be hell to pay if you do.
02:37We wanted the jury to know what they saw.
02:42The Michael Jackson trial is back in session today.
02:44The jurors continue to hear testimony about past molestation allegations against the self-proclaimed
02:50King of Pop.
02:55Former employees were going to come and testify that for years, Michael Jackson lured young
03:01boys to Neverland and sexually molested them.
03:04It could be a real game changer.
03:06Each day we're going to hear disturbing details of what people claim that they saw.
03:12Michael Jackson knew what they had seen.
03:15I had interviewed former employees of his.
03:18They'd all talked about misbehavior between Michael and young boys.
03:23None of them came forward until we got them to.
03:27Get into court, you have to answer questions.
03:34I'll just read out of my notebook.
03:38Ralph Chacon, he was a security guard at Neverland.
03:42One night on his patrol by the shower area, by the swimming pool, there was Michael and
03:48Jordy Chandler, both naked.
03:50I saw that Mr. Jackson was caressing the boy's hair and caressing his face.
03:55And Michael Jackson performing oral sex on the boy.
03:59Blanca Francia, a former maid, talks about finding Wade Robson in the shower with Michael Jackson.
04:11A former chef from Neverland named Philip Lamarck.
04:17He testifies that Michael Jackson was playing the thriller video game with the movie star, Macaulay Culkin.
04:24And Michael Jackson's left hand was inside the pants of the kid.
04:31Question, why didn't you go to the police?
04:33Quote, no one would have believed me.
04:36There wasn't a one of them who was able to say that Michael Jackson, to their knowledge, ever had an
04:42adult guest in his room overnight.
04:44Not even a wife.
04:46He was married twice.
04:47It was only adolescent boys who stayed in his room.
04:50Many members of the press started to say, this is a bigger subject than we thought than just the Arvizo
04:55family.
04:56According to witnesses, there was the home alone kid, Macaulay Culkin, Wade Robson, Brett Barnes, and Jordan Chandler.
05:03It was like this pattern of prepubescent boys.
05:08It's almost like a conveyor belt.
05:09They come in young, they get old, they get off the other side.
05:12Jim, bring me up to date, friend.
05:15Five other children who Jackson allegedly groomed and inappropriately touched could very well turn this jury against Michael Jackson.
05:25It did make me kind of stop and think, wow, what if they're like the same thing that's been going
05:32on with Gavin?
05:34You know, the same M.O.
05:37Five boys, but only one of them is going to testify, correct?
05:41Four of the boys, Jordy Chandler, Brett Barnes, and Wade Robson, and Macaulay Culkin.
05:47And none of them would talk to us.
05:49We were down to one.
05:53Blanca Francia was one of the maids.
05:56She had a son, adolescent son, named Jason.
05:59Now an adult who was cooperative.
06:01And he did testify for us.
06:03You know, when he first walked in, I noticed Michael Jackson look at him and then snap his head around,
06:09and he just looked forward.
06:11Jason Francia, youth pastor, then about eight, nine, ten years old.
06:17Three times he said he was abused by Michael Jackson.
06:21Question, did his hands make contact with your genitalia?
06:24Yes, over the clothes.
06:26How long was his hand there?
06:29Two cartoons worth.
06:34Well, it was very moving.
06:37I had interviewed his mother about these incidents back in 1993.
06:41And here, years later, her son is telling me exactly the same thing.
06:50It really got to me.
06:52His testimony really got to me.
06:57There's witness after witness that say Jackson has a pattern and practice of molesting children.
07:04And I'll tell you, the jury's going to look to that, and they're going to have a difficult time saying
07:08that Jackson is not a pedophile in this case.
07:10The prosecution, they said, we got him.
07:13We have a serial pedophile.
07:17Well, what a bunch of junk that was.
07:21The people who testified, Francia, Chacon, McManus, Lamarck, former employees who were angry.
07:30They had an axe to grind, and we were going to prove it.
07:35Jackson's lead attorney, Tom Miserow, counterattacked ferociously.
07:39The defense skillfully took each one of these witnesses and put them in one box.
07:44And it was a box of grifters.
07:47Some of these people were paid money by the media for their stories.
07:54The housekeeper reportedly sold her story to hardcopy for $20,000.
07:58He had something on every single one of them.
08:00You got $20,000.
08:03The fact of the matter is, back in the 90s, tabloid television paid people.
08:08I mean, everybody knows that.
08:11Now they're having their reputation battered in court.
08:14He was masterful.
08:16I mean, he used facts and a tone of voice that made the jury think, oh boy, these people can't
08:22be believed.
08:24Yeah.
08:25You know, in my opinion, money hungry.
08:29People wanted Michael Jackson's money, no matter how to get it.
08:34I think we cross-examine effectively.
08:36They put on witnesses who are lacking in credibility.
08:39Every one of these prosecution witnesses has their own little axe to grind to some degree.
08:43This is just Mesereau throwing more dirt.
08:46We've had 10 people testify, and he says they're all crooks and liars.
08:50You have to buy that all these 10 people are willing to risk perjury, defamation.
08:55They made a pretty strong case here.
08:57All about credibility and not about physical evidence.
08:59All of this is hanging in the air for the jury to consider.
09:05I think the prosecution needs to pull something really big out of the bag.
09:12As terrible as it looked at that point for the prosecution, what they did next, I thought, was brilliant.
09:19What better person to bring to the stand than the mother of Geordie Chandler, the little boy who got millions
09:27and millions of dollars to shut up.
09:30And so June Chandler came to the stand.
09:36When we discovered that you, Chandler, was going to take the stand, there was pandemonium, okay?
09:44It came back to haunt us.
09:48To understand how significant it was for the mother of Geordie Chandler to take the stand, you have to go
09:54back 10 years earlier with this notebook right here.
09:58Book number one of my notes on Michael Jackson.
10:02This is the original story that we broke back in 1993.
10:07America is in shock tonight over the scandal surrounding pop star Michael Jackson.
10:12Perry, I don't want to overstate anything.
10:14I try to be a careful reporter, but we could very well be watching the downfall of a superstar.
10:20Sources in Los Angeles say a 13-year-old boy's claim of sexual abuse led to the criminal probe of
10:26Michael Jackson.
10:28It's the LAPD's sexually exploited child unit of their juvenile division that is handling this case.
10:38When we first interviewed the victim, it was at his father's home.
10:42His parents were divorced.
10:44The allegations were he had a sexual relationship with Michael Jackson.
10:50The victim became very detailed.
10:52One of the allegations was that they were showered together.
10:55He drew specific details of Mr. Jackson's body.
11:00He drew a picture of Mr. Jackson's private partner, specifically his penis,
11:06stating that Mr. Jackson had markings on his penis.
11:12Because of the details that he was giving to me and to the other officers in the room,
11:18there was absolutely no way that he could make this up.
11:24The Jackson's lawyers had to guarantee that Michael would submit to a police strip search
11:30so cops could see if various parts of Jackson's body matched up with the descriptions.
11:34The body warrant was served to photograph Michael Jackson.
11:39Mr. Jackson was hysterical at the time.
11:43Yelling, screaming, yelling at his attorneys, how are you allowing this to happen?
11:48They served a search warrant on me, which allowed them to view and photograph my body,
11:53including my penis, my buttocks, my lower torso, thighs, and any other error that they wanted.
12:01This is the first time the world has seen Michael Jackson deny the allegations of sexual abuse.
12:08In a message carried on live television from his Santa Barbara ranch,
12:12he emotionally described undergoing a recent body search by investigators.
12:16It was the most humiliating ordeal of my life.
12:20From what I understand, some detectives were able to corroborate the sketch,
12:27actually match the photographs and the markings that Michael Jackson had on his body.
12:35We knew that we had a good case, but the victim did not want to pursue the criminal case.
12:41The young boy who was the catalyst for this investigation has recently informed us
12:48that he does not wish to participate, that we must decline prosecution involving Mr. Jackson.
12:55I was in disbelief.
12:57We don't have a victim.
12:58We don't have anybody else who's willing to come forward.
13:01We don't have a case.
13:02The settlement is in, and Jackson's young accuser is now California's newest millionaire.
13:08Michael Jackson understood what this kid was capable of doing to him,
13:12and $23 million was to keep Michael Jackson out of prison.
13:17I did say to him, you know, but that's got to be the end, Mike.
13:21You can never be seen around kids again, ever.
13:28Michael!
13:30Innocent!
13:30Michael!
13:32Innocent!
13:32Michael!
13:33Innocent!
13:34Michael!
13:37The mother of the 1993 alleged victim
13:40is the 51st witness to testify for the prosecution.
13:44June Chandler, this highly credible witness,
13:48this is the first time the jury's going to hear the truth about what happened with her son.
13:52Everything short of the actual description of molestation,
13:57everything else could come from her.
13:59June Chandler's testimony was riveting.
14:06She said she and her son and small daughter traveled the world with Michael Jackson.
14:14It was a whirlwind existence.
14:24June Chandler testified it was the end of March 1993 that they went to Vegas.
14:33Jackson came to her crying,
14:35you don't trust me, we're a family, why won't you let Jordan be with me?
14:39And she said, he is with you, but why not in my bedroom?
14:44And Michael was trembling and saying, we're a family.
14:48Jordy is having fun with me.
14:49Why can't he sleep in my bed?
14:51There's nothing wrong.
14:52There's nothing going on.
14:53Don't you trust me?
14:54And in the end, she did allow him to sleep with Jackson,
14:58and from that point on, he always slept with Michael Jackson.
15:02MJ spent the night more than 30 times in her Santa Monica house.
15:07Where did they stay in my son's bedroom?
15:10Question, is there more than one bed in that room?
15:13No.
15:17That just gives me chills.
15:20You couldn't get it out of your mind that this woman
15:22got talked into letting her son sleep with Michael Jackson.
15:28He was 12 years old.
15:30Jackson gave her a very expensive Cartier bracelet,
15:33and from then on, every time Jackson and Jordy were together,
15:37they shared a bed.
15:38You got the sense that she sold her son.
15:42And then she told the jury that she hadn't seen her son in 11 years.
15:47You got the impression that June Chandler realized she had done something wrong.
15:53She had allowed access to her son that she now regretted.
15:57I know she was hurting.
16:00I could see that in her face when you talk about Jordy.
16:05They were not able to resume a kind of a normal mother-son relationship after that.
16:12It would be speculation, but I think Jordan blamed her for not protecting him
16:18from this abusive relationship, as a mother should have been.
16:22Listen, you get diamonds, I get abused.
16:25That's their understanding.
16:27It was heartbreaking and infuriating at the same time.
16:31I just remember sitting in the room watching her on the stand.
16:35I just thought, this woman perhaps gave a death blow to Michael.
16:39I'm thinking the jury is going to send him to prison.
16:41It did make me kind of stop and think, wow.
16:47Knowing that Michael Jackson paid off this family makes you wonder, is he guilty?
16:54Michael?
16:56Michael, did June Chandler told the truth?
16:58There'll be no comment.
16:59There'll be no comment.
17:01The pattern she showed was so close to the current case,
17:05the jury could really believe Jackson had a way of going about seducing these kids.
17:09The prosecution is wrapping up the molestation part of its case,
17:12moving on to conspiracy, alleging the Arviso family was held against their will.
17:21Janet Arviso, the mother of the accuser, is on the stand.
17:24We must live! We must live!
17:26Michael!
17:28Michael Jackson face-to-face with the mother of the teenage boy he's accused of molesting.
17:33For the prosecutors, Janet Arviso, the mother of the accuser, Gavin Arviso,
17:39could not be more important, pivotal witness.
17:43She was going to testify that she had been kidnapped,
17:47the family had been held against her will,
17:48and then Michael Jackson had molested her son.
17:53Janet was a very complicated woman.
17:57Three kids, when she was very young, lived in a state of poverty.
18:01They had a one-room studio apartment,
18:05married to a man who was violent and abusive,
18:08and had an effect on how she viewed the world.
18:12Insecure and conflicted and emotionally traumatized,
18:16and that's how she presented.
18:17Emotional testimony revolved around the charge
18:20that Jackson falsely imprisoned her and her three children.
18:24On the stand, Janet talked about being surrounded by the Jackson team
18:29after the Martin Bashir documentary.
18:33They said, we've got to hide you at Neverland,
18:35so the media can't get you.
18:37So she did anything they told her.
18:43We discovered fairly early in the case
18:45the video that depicted the entire Arviso family
18:48proclaiming their praise for Michael Jackson
18:51and how much he's done for their family.
18:53He plays with them, lasts with them.
18:56He, uh, lets them win!
19:00At the time that that video was made,
19:03Janet had no awareness at all
19:05that there was anything going on that was unseemly,
19:08anything that was wrong, anything that was criminal.
19:10She still believed that Michael Jackson was the family savior.
19:14Every door closed on us,
19:17and Michael said, all my doors are open.
19:20My home is your home and your children.
19:26I am like their father.
19:28And me, he calls me family.
19:32Michael Jackson telling her that they are now family,
19:36that he has a special relationship,
19:38not just with her son, but with her as well,
19:42and that he could be counted upon.
19:44Those were the types of things
19:46that June Chandler testified to as well.
19:50What every prosecutor who deals with sex crimes
19:53learns quickly.
19:54A pattern of behavior is repeated over a period of time.
19:57And we believe there is a grooming process
20:00that extends beyond the child.
20:02It includes the family of the child.
20:05Pretty consistently with all of these kids
20:08that Michael Jackson was involved with,
20:10there was no father figure.
20:12That was the case with Jordan.
20:14I mean, there was a divorce.
20:15It was the case with Gavin.
20:17Michael Jackson telling them,
20:19I am the father now.
20:20I will take care of you, and I will love you,
20:23and you will be cared for, and you will be attended to.
20:25You have to believe that I have only your best interests at heart.
20:28Now let's go to bed.
20:35From the very beginning,
20:37things did not make sense about this family.
20:42Michael Jackson, he couldn't understand,
20:45why are they doing this to me?
20:48Everybody has a past.
20:49So when it came to our visas, who are these people?
20:53Michael told me, that's your job, Brian.
20:56Your job is to find out what really happened here.
21:01I need to find every skeleton in their closet,
21:05dirt on their shoes.
21:07You've got to sniff it out.
21:09Did a search, court records.
21:13Bingo.
21:15There's a case against J.C. Penney's by the Arvizu's.
21:20Gavin Arvizu went in and stole clothing,
21:23and the security guard saw him and caught him.
21:26Janet Arvizu sees what's happening,
21:28and a melee ensued, a fight.
21:32They did not get charged with shoplifting.
21:35Instead, Janet Arvizu filed a lawsuit against J.C. Penney's,
21:40saying that the security guard
21:43supposedly molested Janet Arvizu in the parking lot.
21:48Wait a minute, they've done this before.
21:51This is the same M.O.
21:53I found out there was $152,000 paid to them
21:59in a settlement agreement.
22:02And I said, they've got all this money.
22:05What are they doing on welfare?
22:07They were scam artists.
22:09They knew how to do it.
22:11I found the smoking gun.
22:13But was it enough?
22:18Today at the Michael Jackson trial,
22:20Jackson's attorney begins cross-examining
22:22his accuser's mother.
22:24Now the defense came into play.
22:27Michael, are you looking forward
22:29to the cross-examination of this witness?
22:32Tom Mesro's cross-examination,
22:34it was surgical, never explosive, but devastating.
22:38He flipped the narrative.
22:39He made the Arvizu's, the aggressors, the predators,
22:43and Michael Jackson, the prey.
22:45The welfare fraud was so powerful,
22:47it resulted in her claiming the Fifth Amendment.
22:52He allowed Janet Arvizu to effectively hang herself.
22:57There was a palpable reaction in the courtroom.
23:01It did bother me.
23:03To me, it was just a farce.
23:08You know, she just was out for money.
23:11Out for money.
23:15At every opportunity,
23:16the defense absolutely excoriated her.
23:20The whole notion that they're a family of grifters
23:22looking for a quick buck is nonsense.
23:25There was high drama in the courtroom
23:26of the Michael Jackson child molestation trial.
23:29She witnessed Jackson licking her son's face,
23:32and she actually did a reenactment of that,
23:34which must have been incredibly bizarre.
23:36She shouted, quote,
23:38Neverland is all about booze, pornography, and sex with boys.
23:43She was rambling.
23:44She was incoherent.
23:45She was emotional.
23:46She was on the stand several days in a row.
23:50Every day, she appeared as a different person.
23:53Once very meek, and then the next day very mad,
23:57and then the next day very sad.
23:59You just never knew what you were going to get
24:01with Janet Arvizo.
24:02All I know is sitting, you know, six feet away from her,
24:05she was pointing at the jury,
24:07Put yourself in my shoes.
24:09Don't you judge me.
24:10Talking about being kidnapped in a hot air balloon.
24:14I called her Janet from another planet.
24:16Sorry.
24:17But, you know, I mean, that's just how she acted.
24:23It's a normal reaction for a mother
24:26who realizes that their child has been exposed to harm.
24:30And she was somebody who psychologically
24:32didn't have the ability to deal with it.
24:34I'm not sure I would have the ability to deal with it.
24:37I had a fairly normal upbringing.
24:40Today, we went from Neverland to Fantasyland.
24:44This witness was a disaster.
24:47She was the worst possible witness
24:50you could have imagined for a prosecutor.
24:53It was an extraordinarily pivotal moment in the case.
24:57She was, at the end of the day,
24:59what the defense needed,
25:00and that was walking, talking, reasonable doubt.
25:07I think it was a really important moment for Michael Jackson.
25:10The case was going very well for him.
25:22Michael was real excited and jubilant, as a matter of fact.
25:29It made it a good day.
25:32I cherished those days, the good days,
25:37because most of the times were extremely stressful.
25:41Throughout the trial, he was deteriorating mentally and physically,
25:46you know, because he was just paralyzed with fear and anxiety.
25:50At times, you would see him just in thought,
25:55and I'd see tears come down, you know,
26:00because it was destroying him.
26:02A key prosecution witness is expected to testify.
26:05Jackson's ex-wife.
26:06The singer's ex-wife, the mother of two of his children,
26:09set to take the witness stand.
26:11Just knowing that Debbie Rowe is on the prosecution's side,
26:16that was problematic.
26:18Debbie, Michael Jackson's ex-wife,
26:21now she's going to be a witness.
26:23I'm thinking, oh, man, what's going to happen?
26:27Debbie Rowe gives Michael Jackson what he's always wanted,
26:30his own children, not one, but two.
26:33And she agrees not to be part of the children's life.
26:37She gave up her parental rights
26:39so that the children were all his.
26:43But she changed her mind.
26:46Rowe is locked in a custody battle with Jackson over their children
26:49and is reportedly upset because the singer
26:51has not paid alimony for more than a year.
26:54She told the prosecution
26:55she hadn't seen her children in two and a half years
26:58because Jackson wouldn't let her,
26:59and she called him a sociopath.
27:02What a coup for the prosecution to get Debbie Rowe.
27:14The night before, I was at a steak joint
27:19where we always ate every single night,
27:21and there's Debbie.
27:23She's with the prosecution, and they're huddling,
27:26and they got their heads down, and they're taking notes,
27:28and she's being very animated,
27:31and who the heck knew what she was saying,
27:33but I knew it wasn't good.
27:36Sparks could fly later today
27:37in the Michael Jackson child molestation trial
27:40with the singer's ex-wife.
27:42At this point, we had a battle.
27:45We had to pull out all the stops.
27:47Debbie Rowe, she had information that was relevant,
27:51you know, critical of him and what he did with children.
27:54Now, could we get her to deliver that information
27:58in a way that was effective
28:00and was received well by a jury?
28:02She didn't demonstrate any hesitancy in doing so.
28:05Could be potentially devastating for this defense.
28:08I think she's going to be given instant credibility
28:10because of who she is and what she may know.
28:13Debbie Rowe was going to appear as a prosecution witness
28:17This was a heart-stopping event.
28:21Randy, Jermaine, LaGioia, Mr. Jackson,
28:25everyone in the defense talk about people's blood draining
28:29from their face and their heart.
28:31People were going to believe she had the inside story.
28:38There she is, Debbie Rowe, right?
28:42And she looks at Michael.
28:44He looks at her.
28:46And there was a moment
28:49when I saw her flip.
28:53Something happens in a courtroom
28:55that it overcomes people
28:57and their emotions come out
28:59and her emotions came out.
29:01Michael, I think the world of you
29:04and she said so.
29:08What she testified to
29:10and what she told us were two very different things.
29:13If I was expecting her to say something along the line of
29:19I was very concerned about his behavior
29:21and his association with children,
29:22she certainly didn't say that on the witness stand.
29:27There's a limit to what you can do
29:29to neutralize something like that.
29:31You just have to live with it.
29:33It was pretty devastating.
29:35The prosecution cut her testimony short.
29:39They realized she's flipped.
29:41She's not going to tell us
29:42what she told us behind closed doors.
29:45Michael was numb the whole time.
29:48He kind of just looked at me.
29:50Okay, that's my Debbie.
29:51I love her too, you know.
29:54Debbie Rowe was touted
29:55as the prosecution's bombshell witness,
29:57but she appears to have exploded in their faces.
30:01As she left the stand,
30:03Debbie Rowe took this long, beseeching look,
30:06like, look at me, would you please?
30:09He, as I recall,
30:10just kept his head down.
30:12The moment she got in the courtroom,
30:13took the witness stand,
30:14took one look at Jackson,
30:16she melted like an ice cube.
30:20Did she still love him?
30:21Is that why she did it?
30:23One theory.
30:24If she would testify favorably for Michael Jackson,
30:27there was this backdoor agreement
30:29that he would let her see her children.
30:32I don't think anybody really knows except Debbie Rowe.
30:35Michael, was it good to see Debbie again?
30:37Michael, what was it like to see Debbie Rowe?
30:40No comment.
30:41No comment.
30:42The one person who has a right to hate Michael Jackson doesn't.
30:45What does that say about Michael Jackson?
30:47How could they put this witness on the stand?
30:49How could they not know what she was going to testify to?
30:51It's bad.
30:53It's especially bad because it's so late in the case.
30:55You know, the defense is about to begin.
30:57You want to start strong and end strong.
30:59Well, this is both the end of the prosecution case
31:02and the end of the prosecution case.
31:0745 days and 85 witnesses later,
31:11the prosecution and the Michael Jackson case arrested.
31:15The prosecution made so many mistakes,
31:20Martin Bashir being one of them.
31:22Debbie Rowe.
31:23Oh, my goodness.
31:25But we, we were still in trouble.
31:28Public opinion.
31:29Very important.
31:3170% said he was guilty.
31:34Oh, man, we were getting killed.
31:37Since when do that number of Americans agree on anything?
31:40Could we move that needle back where it belonged on the defense side?
31:45Can't wait till it's over.
31:47If I have to see him in his pajamas again,
31:48I don't know if I'm going to get through.
31:50It's close to presenting inside.
31:52Let's meet our panel again and go to your calls.
31:54Hi, Larry.
31:55Go ahead.
31:55Do you think they should let Michael get on the stand?
31:59If I were defending him, absolutely not.
32:07After 10 weeks of taking pot shots at the state's case,
32:11the defense kicks off.
32:13Now it's the defense's turn.
32:16The defense have this big master plan,
32:20polish up Michael Jackson's reputation.
32:22So who do they call?
32:23Wade Robson.
32:25They call Brett Barnes,
32:26who the prosecution said that Michael Jackson
32:29groomed and sexually molested.
32:31But guess what?
32:32They also called the movie star,
32:35Macaulay Culkin.
32:36The Home Alone kid always said glowing things about Michael Jackson.
32:40What happened at the house?
32:42That's what all these things...
32:43You know, that's so weird, you know.
32:44What did that?
32:45Nothing happened, you know.
32:46I mean, nothing, really.
32:47I mean, we played video games, you know.
32:49Macaulay Culkin, he's a neat guy.
32:52I called him up and I said,
32:53Mac, they're making all these accusations
32:56against Michael about you.
32:58And Macaulay Culkin says,
32:59from what I'm seeing going on in this courtroom,
33:02Michael is in deep, deep trouble.
33:05I'll be there for him, Brian.
33:06I'll come in, I'll testify.
33:08I'll told him a thousand times.
33:09I'll tell him again.
33:16I'll tell him again.
33:19He asked this jury to believe him.
33:24If you trust me,
33:27Home Alone star Macaulay Culkin,
33:29you should trust Michael Jackson.
33:31Michael Jackson
33:32stared at him
33:34for a moment.
33:35He smiled.
33:36And it was
33:38a moment between two megastars
33:41when the world could have stopped
33:44and the two of them
33:46just sort of shared a moment
33:47with each other.
33:49He categorically denied
33:50that Michael Jackson
33:51had ever molested him
33:52and ever inappropriately touched him.
33:54Culkin called the allegations
33:56absolutely ridiculous.
33:57The second defense witness,
33:58Brett Barnes,
33:59said the same thing.
34:01Choreographer Wade Robson
34:02told jurors
34:03he first met Jackson at age five
34:05and shared a bed with him
34:07more than 20 times
34:08until he was 14.
34:09Wade says,
34:11no,
34:11Michael never touched me.
34:12He never did anything
34:14that was even remotely associated
34:17with these accusations.
34:19Wade was very convincing,
34:22made me feel like
34:24he was telling me the truth.
34:27It's really hard
34:28to kind of lie to somebody.
34:29When you look directly at him,
34:31you kind of would look away
34:33or look, you know,
34:34distracted,
34:35but he didn't do any of that.
34:37It was a trio
34:40of home runs
34:41for Tom Mesereau.
34:43All three of those young men
34:45said their time at Neverland
34:47was magical, safe.
34:51Did you always sleep
34:52with Michael Jackson
34:53when you were there?
34:54Yes.
34:55And nothing bad ever happened?
34:57No, nothing bad ever happened.
35:00I was hearkened back to 1993
35:02when Wade Robson
35:04as a nine-year-old
35:05and Brett Barnes
35:06as a nine- or ten-year-old
35:08were brought out
35:09by Team Jackson.
35:11Have you slept
35:12in the same bed with him?
35:14Yeah, but I was on one side,
35:15he was on the other.
35:16It's a big bed.
35:18Yeah, you know,
35:19there's been different times
35:20where it'll just be me and Michael.
35:22Then there'll be other times
35:23where he has
35:23other friends over, too.
35:25It's just
35:26the snowman party.
35:28We just have a lot of fun.
35:29And there they were
35:30years later
35:31testifying as grown men
35:33to the very same thing.
35:34Yes, they slept in bed
35:35with Michael Jackson,
35:36but nothing ever happened.
35:38It was a mantra.
35:39Nothing happened.
35:41Nothing happened.
35:42Absolutely nothing happened.
35:44How much stronger
35:45can you get
35:45for the defense?
35:46And you have to wonder
35:47why the prosecution
35:48brought these three cases
35:50up to begin with.
35:50What we had to overcome
35:52was something
35:52that was almost devastating.
35:54We had presented
35:55to the jury
35:56our belief
35:56that Wade Robson
35:57was a victim.
35:58We had a witness
35:59who saw that he was being
36:00abused by Michael Jackson.
36:03He insisted he was not.
36:05That's very difficult
36:06evidence to overcome, right?
36:07Now, it's my task
36:09to cross-examine him.
36:10I was inside the courtroom.
36:12At one point,
36:13the prosecution
36:14was so frustrated
36:15on how well he was doing
36:17for the defense.
36:19He leaned on
36:20the podium
36:21like out of frustration
36:22like we can't break you
36:24and he said,
36:26you know,
36:26maybe he did
36:28these things to you
36:29and you were asleep.
36:31The audience just gaffed
36:32because it was like
36:33you're that desperate?
36:35It was hard
36:36to get past that.
36:37You know,
36:37it's hard to convince
36:38a jury when the subject
36:40of the act itself
36:42says it didn't happen.
36:44I had decided
36:45that the most effective way
36:47to be able to deal
36:48with that
36:48was to simply do
36:50a presentation
36:51of some of the materials,
36:52sexually graphic material
36:54that we had seized
36:55from Michael Jackson's home.
36:58Two books
36:59introduced
37:00by the prosecution.
37:02One of them is
37:03Boys Will Be Boys
37:04and one I'm going to cover up
37:06the cover photo
37:07called simply
37:08The Boy,
37:09a photographic essay.
37:10In these books,
37:11you will see
37:12naked boys
37:13sprawled on rocks,
37:15naked boys
37:15eating bananas,
37:17naked boys
37:18touching each other.
37:19And suddenly,
37:20you saw Wade Robson
37:22who sat
37:22stuck still
37:23in the witness chair
37:24slumped down.
37:26His whole demeanor
37:28changed
37:28and you could see
37:31these books
37:32affected him.
37:33And I had to wonder,
37:35had Michael Jackson
37:36shown him
37:36these books?
37:39Ron Zonen,
37:40the prosecutor,
37:40did an absolutely
37:41magnificent job
37:42of taking this witness
37:43and turning him
37:45to his own witness.
37:46My goal
37:47was to make
37:48this jury
37:49as uneasy
37:50as possible.
37:52I want the jury
37:53to sit there
37:54and think,
37:55I sure wouldn't
37:56want my child
37:57in bed
37:58with a man
37:59who found
38:00this kind of material
38:01to be fascinating
38:02or enticing.
38:06I frankly felt
38:07like I was hit
38:08by a 2x4
38:09on the stomach.
38:09It was only about
38:10two hours of testimony
38:11but it was
38:12tremendously powerful,
38:13Nancy.
38:14The prosecution
38:15did score some points.
38:17Was it enough?
38:18Well,
38:18that was up to the jury.
38:22For the next
38:23two weeks,
38:24Tom Mesereau
38:25took the jury
38:26through every piece
38:27of evidence
38:28that was critical,
38:29every witness
38:30that was important.
38:31They took 50 witnesses
38:32and put them on
38:33in over two weeks.
38:34There were so many
38:35ridiculous aspects
38:36to this trial
38:37that I think
38:38our witnesses
38:38blew them out
38:39even more.
38:40Jackson lead attorney
38:41Tom Mesereau,
38:42he simply said,
38:43the defense rests.
38:48Michael Jackson
38:49admits to sleeping
38:51with children
38:51but is the 46-year-old
38:53pop star
38:53a child molester.
38:55It is now up
38:56to a jury
38:56in Santa Maria,
38:57California
38:58to answer that question.
38:59After more than
39:00three months
39:01of testimony,
39:02the jury
39:02in the Michael Jackson
39:03child molestation trial
39:04began deliberating
39:05the case on Friday.
39:06In the bed!
39:09Michael!
39:10Michael!
39:11I was nervous.
39:15The first thing
39:16we did was
39:16we took a poll.
39:18It was almost
39:18kind of equal
39:20of people thinking
39:21he was guilty
39:22and people thinking
39:23he was innocent.
39:24What has to be proven
39:26is beyond
39:27a reasonable doubt.
39:29Can you doubt
39:29that happened?
39:34They've been in
39:35the deliberation
39:36now for three days.
39:37The longer it goes on,
39:38it could mean
39:39that they're basically
39:40locked on some issues.
39:42Emotions were high.
39:44There was yelling
39:45and crying
39:46and screaming.
39:47The people outside
39:49could hear us.
39:51All over the world,
39:52everybody was watching.
39:54The media was all up in it.
39:56That's a lot of pressure.
39:58Something that is
39:59resonating
40:00through the African-American
40:01community right now.
40:03They do not believe
40:04that Michael Jackson
40:05is being treated fairly.
40:06Michael Jackson,
40:07in front of a jury
40:09of mostly white
40:10conservative Santa Marines,
40:13was probably going
40:14to be found guilty.
40:16Go back to the mug shot.
40:18Go back to dancing
40:19on the roof of an SUV.
40:21There are 10 counts
40:22against Michael Jackson.
40:24Go back to all
40:25of the charges.
40:27I think for the prosecutors,
40:29the key is looking
40:30at the big picture,
40:30saying,
40:31there's a pattern here.
40:32This is not just about
40:34this boy.
40:35This is the M.O.
40:36Facing the kind of charges
40:38that he was facing,
40:39the odds were against him.
40:42The jurors,
40:43I mean,
40:43they're right in that room,
40:45right back there.
40:46They have to reach a verdict.
40:47And I don't think
40:48it's going to happen
40:48anytime soon.
40:49This is a pretty complicated case.
40:51Day after day after day,
40:52more and more
40:53of the fans would gather.
40:55Dying,
40:56it's on fire!
40:57We don't need the water!
40:59Let the fans rain for!
41:02It got really tense
41:03in that parking lot.
41:05Stop, child, predators!
41:06No problem,
41:07it's on fire!
41:08What came out of his mouth
41:10about sleeping with boys?
41:11What came out of his mouth?
41:12Prayer files!
41:13I don't know
41:13what kind of kids you raised.
41:15That's what I mean!
41:16You're going to hell,
41:18possibly with Michael Jackson.
41:20Justice!
41:20Innocent!
41:21Innocent!
41:22I won't use the word anxious.
41:24I will use the word prayerful.
41:26We have faith in the jury.
41:27We're going to let them handle it.
41:29Michael's innocent!
41:31Sure or later,
41:32somebody has to come out
41:33of that room
41:34with some kind of an announcement.
41:36We had the bailiff tell the judge,
41:38you know,
41:38we're at a standstill.
41:40What are we supposed to do?
41:41The judge says,
41:43no, we ain't doing no mistrower.
41:45You're going to sit there
41:46and you're going to work it out.
41:49The heart of this case is,
41:50do you believe the boy
41:51is making these accusations?
41:53And do you believe this mother
41:55that they were all confined
41:56at the Neverland home?
42:00It's the biggest story
42:01of the century,
42:02so we've got to cover this.
42:04What we want to know is,
42:06where's Gavin?
42:06We are basically on Gavin.
42:09He doesn't know we're there.
42:10It's long lens work.
42:12On the face of it,
42:14it's just a picture of Gavin
42:15and his brother Star
42:16buying some snacks.
42:17It looked like it was
42:18going to be movie night.
42:19And as they're leaving the store,
42:21you start seeing them look up
42:22at the TV mounted on the ceiling.
42:25Breaking news,
42:26the jury in Santa Maria
42:27has said word
42:28that it has reached a verdict.
42:30There's a verdict
42:30in the Jackson case.
42:31This is how he saw it.
42:34We were there at that moment.
42:37It's not a happy picture.
42:38He looks scared.
42:40They jump on their bikes
42:41and they pedal home
42:42as fast as they can.
42:46There is a verdict.
42:47I am told there is a verdict.
42:48All right.
42:49So it is now official
42:50that at 1.30 p.m. Pacific time,
42:55a verdict will be announced
42:57in the Michael Jackson case.
42:58Everybody was like,
42:59whoa, my heart is beating real fast.
43:02A jury of 12 men and women,
43:04if one of them expresses
43:06reasonable doubt
43:07on any one of the charges,
43:08he is acquitted.
43:10The sheriff said,
43:11I just want to let you know
43:12that when your friend
43:13is found guilty,
43:15we're going to rush
43:17his ass out of that courtroom
43:19so fast
43:20that your head's going to spin.
43:22And I'm like,
43:24this guy knows something
43:26I don't know.
43:28Like, Michael Jackson's
43:29going to be found guilty.
43:31The jury verdict
43:32is to be read
43:33when he arrives
43:34at the courthouse.
43:36His motorcade,
43:37as you see from this
43:38helicopter shot live.
43:41Michael's life hinged
43:43on what these jurors
43:44are going to say.
43:45And he's like,
43:46just in shock.
43:48I found a scripture
43:49in the Bible,
43:50Isaiah 41,
43:52and I gave this
43:53to his mother,
43:54Catherine,
43:55and I told her
43:56to read this.
43:58So do not fear,
44:00for I am with you.
44:01Do not be dismayed,
44:03for I am your God.
44:04I will strengthen you
44:06and help you.
44:07I will uphold you
44:08with my righteous right hand.
44:10All who rage against you
44:11will surely be ashamed
44:13and disgraced.
44:15For I am the Lord,
44:16your God,
44:16who takes hold
44:17of your right hand
44:18and says to you,
44:20do not fear,
44:20I will help you.
44:30One moment,
44:32wow.
44:33This is taking me back.
44:37This is taking me back
44:39to that very moment.
44:43Michael Jackson
44:44is a few moments away
44:46from hearing his fate.
44:48It's been over 60 days
44:50of evidence,
44:51of testimony,
44:52of late
44:53to the court moments.
44:55In the next
44:5650 minutes or so.
44:57Live outside.
44:58The jury will
44:59release its judgment.
45:02You see there
45:03Michael Jackson's team
45:04arriving
45:05here at the courthouse.
45:07So many fans,
45:09media,
45:10all just
45:11in a crush.
45:15This could be
45:16the last time
45:17that Michael Jackson
45:18is a free man
45:19for a long time.
45:20I just remember
45:21seeing his face.
45:24I just like,
45:25like, wow,
45:25you know.
45:29The slow walk,
45:31it was almost
45:31like a death march,
45:33you know,
45:34blank look
45:35on his face.
45:36No emotion
45:37whatsoever.
45:38It's almost like
45:39he's a zombie.
45:40just existing.
45:44A live audio feed
45:45which the judge
45:46has agreed to
45:47and we will be
45:47hearing it all
45:48at the same time.
45:49The jury is making
45:50their way
45:51into the jury room.
45:52Diane Diamond,
45:54row one.
45:55Every muscle
45:55in my body
45:56was tense
45:57because
45:58after all
45:59these months,
46:00finally,
46:01it's gonna be over.
46:02Whether you
46:03supported him
46:04or whether you
46:05were against him,
46:07you could see
46:08everybody nervous.
46:10all lawyers
46:11standing up.
46:13Michael Jackson
46:13standing up
46:14waiting for the
46:15verdict to be read.
46:22We're all
46:23in listening mode
46:24here.
46:25First word,
46:26first audio
46:27we hear from
46:28inside that courthouse.
46:33The microphone's on.
46:35The people
46:36of the state
46:37of California
46:37plaintiff
46:38versus Michael
46:38Joe Jackson
46:39defendant,
46:40count one,
46:41verdict.
46:42We the jury
46:43in the above
46:43entitled case
46:44find the defendant
46:45not guilty
46:46of conspiracy
46:46as charged
46:48in count one
46:48of the indictment.
46:49Count two,
46:50verdict.
46:51Not guilty
46:52of a lewd act
46:53upon a minor child.
46:55Count three,
46:56verdict.
46:56Michael Jackson
46:58is now free.
47:00Count ten,
47:01verdict.
47:02Not guilty
47:02of providing
47:03alcoholic beverages.
47:05Boom, boom,
47:05boom, boom, boom,
47:06Not guilty
47:07on all counts.
47:08Michael's vindicated
47:09acquitted.
47:10I told you so.
47:10Michael Jackson
47:11was persecuted
47:12for graves.
47:13He didn't come up.
47:14I was proven
47:14in my court of law
47:15today.
47:17I mean,
47:18they're roaring
47:18out there.
47:19We could hear it
47:20inside the courtroom.
47:21I lost it.
47:22I couldn't stop
47:23crying
47:23because it was
47:25just so emotional.
47:28I remember tears.
47:30I'm jubilant
47:31but can't
47:32physically give
47:33any more.
47:35I completely
47:36pass out.
47:37I end up
47:38on the scratcher.
47:39At the end
47:41of the day,
47:41Michael was always
47:42innocent
47:43and he is low.
47:50It was tough,
47:52not guilty.
47:52that doesn't
47:53say innocent.
47:54It says
47:55not guilty
47:56of the charges
47:57brought against him.
47:58I did come away
48:00at the end
48:00thinking that
48:02the state
48:03had kind of
48:04blown it.
48:05I think
48:06the state
48:07made the case
48:08so complicated
48:09by adding
48:10the conspiracy
48:12counts.
48:14The man's innocent,
48:15he always was.
48:16Defense attorney
48:17Tom Mesereau
48:18said if you have
48:19reasonable doubt
48:20about this family
48:21accusing Jackson,
48:22you must have
48:23quit and
48:24they did.
48:25If there are
48:26ever two words
48:26you never want
48:27to hear,
48:28it's not guilty.
48:29It's the worst
48:30moment you could
48:31have as a
48:31professional
48:32prosecutor to
48:33ever hear
48:33not guilty
48:34but it is
48:35what happened
48:36and we are
48:36professionals
48:37and it's not
48:38guilty,
48:39the jury has
48:39spoken,
48:40that's it.
48:40We're done.
48:41I'm looking
48:42at Michael
48:42Jackson.
48:43He didn't
48:44look excited
48:44or happy.
48:45He turned
48:46to Tom
48:46Mesereau
48:47like what
48:48happened
48:49and Tom
48:50Mesereau
48:50had to
48:50whisper in
48:51his ear
48:51like hey
48:52you know
48:52we won.
48:53I turned
48:54around and
48:54looked and
48:55Michael Jackson
48:55looked right
48:56at me
48:58and he
48:59went thank
49:00you,
49:01bowed his
49:02head down
49:02to me.
49:03I'm like
49:03just doing
49:04my job.
49:08I went
49:09over to
49:09Michael
49:10congratulations
49:10Mike,
49:11you know
49:11you did
49:12it and
49:13he kind
49:14of looked
49:14right through
49:15me.
49:15What a
49:16trial this
49:17was for
49:17him,
49:18moments of
49:18total
49:18humiliation,
49:19total anguish,
49:21embarrassment,
49:22physical pain.
49:23This isn't
49:23exactly a day
49:24you want to
49:24just you know
49:25throw your
49:26hat up and
49:26have a
49:26party.
49:29We put
49:29him in
49:29the car
49:31and it
49:31was relatively
49:32quiet.
49:34I saw
49:34him
49:35lean back
49:36like this
49:38and exhale
49:39and I think
49:40it kind of
49:41set in
49:41that wow
49:43I am done.
49:44You know
49:45I am going
49:45home.
49:47You know
49:48I'm a
49:48free man.
49:53I had
49:54this idealized
49:55romanticized
49:56notion
49:57now he's
49:58going to
49:59get his
49:59life back.
50:01The one
50:02person who
50:02disabused me
50:03of that notion
50:03was his
50:04manager
50:04Frank DeLeo
50:05he turned
50:05to me
50:05and he
50:06said
50:07you don't
50:08get it.
50:09I said
50:09what?
50:10He said
50:10this is
50:12life
50:12ruining
50:13for
50:13Michael.
50:14He will
50:15never
50:16recover
50:17from this.
50:19That just
50:19hit me
50:20hard.
50:21You know
50:21I mean
50:22I was like
50:22oh my god
50:23he's right.
50:25Michael
50:26he knew
50:26that there
50:27were a lot
50:27of people
50:28who felt
50:28that he
50:28was guilty
50:29no matter
50:30what the
50:30project
50:30was.
50:32The key
50:33core part
50:34of the
50:34case
50:35is the
50:35testimony
50:35of the
50:36boy
50:37his younger
50:37brother
50:37and the
50:38mother
50:38and clearly
50:38the jurors
50:39all 12
50:40of them
50:40rejected
50:41the testimony.
50:42The main
50:43thing that
50:43Gavin kept
50:44repeating
50:44is that
50:45they didn't
50:46believe me.
50:47Why didn't
50:48they believe
50:48me?
50:50You know
50:51he just
50:51that's how
50:52he is.
50:53He felt
50:53like he
50:53had failed.
50:55Why didn't
50:55they believe
50:56me?
50:57That
50:57entitled
50:58case
50:58by the
50:59defendant
50:59not guilty
51:00of conspiracy.
51:01People
51:01continue to
51:02question
51:03was he
51:04guilty?
51:05Was he
51:06not guilty?
51:08While this
51:09was a trial
51:09clearly about
51:10Michael Jackson
51:11and molestation
51:12charges
51:13the trial
51:13was also
51:14a trial
51:15about
51:15America's
51:16and maybe
51:17the world's
51:18most fragile
51:18obsession.
51:19Michael Jackson
51:20has set the
51:21music world
51:21on its ear.
51:23The album
51:24is still
51:25number one
51:25after 57
51:26weeks on
51:27the charts.
51:27Our obsession
51:28with fame,
51:30celebrity,
51:31and status
51:33balanced against
51:34suspicion of
51:35our icon.
51:36He's a little
51:37weird.
51:38And all of
51:39those things
51:39came colliding
51:40together in
51:41this trial.
51:42Most well-known
51:43and controversial
51:43people in the
51:44world is in
51:44the fight of
51:45his life.
51:45Rumors fueled
51:46by a tabloid
51:47frenzy and
51:48obsession.
51:49Every time
51:49we watch a
51:50tabloid show,
51:51every time we
51:52read a tabloid
51:53magazine,
51:54that was the
51:55kerosene placed
51:56onto this
51:57slowly burning
51:59embers of
52:01Michael Jackson.
52:02And we had to
52:03make a value
52:04judgment.
52:05What do we
52:06believe?
52:07And what don't
52:08we believe?
52:10And in the end,
52:11it left us
52:12looking in the
52:13mirror,
52:14and I'm not sure
52:15that we like
52:16what we saw.
52:16we have to
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