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Joey Bada$$ brings U.S. Men’s National Team defender Miles Robinson into the studio for a first-time recording session, breaking down how he finds flow, cadence and confidence on the mic. Watch Miles Robinson step out of his comfort zone and into Joey’s creative process as they build a song idea from scratch.
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00:00Then it's just a dream scene, me and Joey badass, we do this every day.
00:04It's like, this is a one-time thing, then we do this again and again.
00:18Yo, what's good, bro?
00:19What's good, bro?
00:20How you been?
00:21Shit, man, I've been good. How you?
00:23I'm good, man.
00:24Welcome to my world.
00:25I'm hyped to be here, for sure.
00:26I know it's probably surreal for you, man.
00:28Oh, definitely, definitely.
00:30I mean, just to be here in this studio, chilling with Joey badass, man, I mean, it means a lot
00:35for real.
00:35That's what's up, bro.
00:37So have you ever been to the studio at all?
00:39Nah, nah, this is my first time, for sure.
00:41You ever thought about making music?
00:43Not really, honestly. I'm more of the on-the-field guy, so this is a new experience for me, you
00:47know what I'm saying?
00:48What direction, you know what I'm saying, you want to go?
00:50Personally, I might just want to vibe out, honestly.
00:52All right, all right, yeah, that's all right.
00:53Listen to a beat, see what I like, and then just let the beat kind of speak to me.
00:58All right, yeah, yeah.
00:59Go in that direction.
01:00I love what you said.
01:01It spoke to me.
01:02You have an album where some that you already had the written, you know, tracks?
01:06Every album is like a mixture of different creative processes.
01:13Like, I don't have no singular album where it's just like, I only did this.
01:17Oh, okay.
01:17And that's what I'm saying, like, you know, that's kind of like how the creative process is.
01:22Like, you can't really force it into a box.
01:24You can't, it's hard to catch that lightning in the bottle.
01:27Like, you might have got it this way on Monday, but Tuesday, you might just be, shit, who knows?
01:33Maybe you had an argument with somebody, and it's like, oh, like, you pick up a line or something, you
01:38know what I mean?
01:38And then, who knows, maybe something hurts your feelings.
01:41And you say, yeah, I got to, like, express myself.
01:44I got nobody to talk to.
01:45So I'm going to talk to the page or something like that.
01:48And that's how I like to keep the process, bro.
01:50Like, let's knock down the walls.
01:52Yeah.
01:53There's no certain way to do things.
01:54There's no certain way to do things.
01:56But then, you know, like, once we find a beat, the beat is going to inform us on what the
02:01vibe is.
02:02And then from there, it's just a process of singling down.
02:07So right now, we like this.
02:08Yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:09Like, it's infinite.
02:10Yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:10You know what I'm saying?
02:11There's no telling where it's going to go.
02:12The beat going to do this for us.
02:13Yeah.
02:14And then once we get the beat, then we figure out what the vibe is, then it's going to be
02:19like that.
02:19What do you think?
02:20What kind of guy do you think you are?
02:21Do you like writing?
02:22No, I do.
02:22Yeah, I do, like, journal in the morning, honestly.
02:24Oh, word?
02:25Like, with a pen and paper?
02:26Yeah, I read this book, like, The Artist's Way.
02:28And it was pretty much about...
02:29Julia Cameron.
02:30Yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:31So, like, pretty much you write three pages.
02:34Yeah, I was trying to figure out my art, honestly.
02:36I'm telling you.
02:36You're an artist, man.
02:37I'm trying to, like, really tap into my artistry.
02:39But I'm not really sure yet what exactly it is.
02:42You know what I'm saying?
02:43It's up here.
02:43I'm feeling it.
02:44Okay, hopefully.
02:44But I don't think I got it.
02:45No, I got it.
02:46I got it.
02:47I'm feeling it.
02:47Three magic words.
02:48Come on, come on, come on.
02:48Three magic words.
02:49You got to elevate the subconscious type.
02:52Manifest, bro.
02:53100%.
02:53Let's speak positivity.
02:54100%.
02:55Do you know, like, what kind of sound you may be grabbing tours to?
03:00Definitely anything like rap, hip-hop, R&B.
03:05Okay, okay.
03:05East Coast.
03:06East Coast vibe.
03:07Instead of, like, West.
03:08Well, let's, yeah.
03:08Let's give a listen.
03:10I mean, we're in Brooklyn.
03:12You got to listen to something East Coast, you know?
03:13We are in Brooklyn.
03:15Ooh.
03:19Okay.
03:20You got an instant reaction.
03:22Yeah, it seems fast, though.
03:23It seems fast.
03:24Too fast?
03:25Yeah, I don't know if I can rap or whatever.
03:30Okay.
03:31Seriously.
03:32It's deep.
03:33It's about to drop like crazy.
03:35Let's hope.
03:36Beast lets you down.
03:37Ah.
03:39Yeah, that one let me down.
03:41I'm not going to lie.
03:42But it lets you down?
03:43Yeah, but it's still above the first one.
03:45It's above the first one.
03:48It's not bad.
03:49But again, I just feel like it's fast.
03:53I don't know.
03:54Still fast?
03:55I don't know.
03:55Maybe.
03:56You know what?
03:58Play some.
03:58Nah, but I can slow it down on that.
03:59I like that one.
04:00That one's pretty good.
04:01All right, let's save that one.
04:02Yeah, let's save it.
04:03Let's put that one to the side.
04:04Let's put that one to the side.
04:13I like that.
04:14It's a bird.
04:14It's a plant.
04:15I think that's his beat drop.
04:17Yeah.
04:18What do you think about this beat?
04:19It's not bad.
04:20It's not bad.
04:20It can be saved with the other one for sure.
04:22We'll mark this world, but let's go to the next one.
04:25Okay.
04:31Oh, that's a no for me.
04:34Yeah, that's a no for me for sure.
04:35It's not too potty.
04:36Yeah, yeah.
04:39Yeah, it's kind of tough.
04:41Yeah, right?
04:42Yeah.
04:44A little bit more intro perspective.
04:45Yeah, this shit is crazy.
04:46Y'all let the people know who you are.
04:48Yeah.
04:48You know what I'm saying?
04:48Yeah.
04:51Oh, we got one more beat.
04:53Hey, what's this one?
05:09Let's go to that joint.
05:11What was it called?
05:11Super sound?
05:14Self-made.
05:15All right, back.
05:16Self-made.
05:17I like this one.
05:18Yeah.
05:18So now we got to figure out the flow and cadence.
05:22Yeah.
05:23So I see you got a certain bop.
05:24Yeah.
05:24You know what I mean?
05:25It's like this.
05:26Mm-hmm.
05:27Yeah.
05:27So like, just to find the flow, right?
05:30Don't think about words right now.
05:32Just think about like how you see yourself meshing with this beat.
05:37I see it like fast.
05:39All right, let's hear it.
05:40Let's hear it fast, gibberish.
05:45That's good.
05:46By the way, that's not fast.
05:49You're taking good breaks.
05:54Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
05:56That would be tough.
05:59That's not fast, though.
06:00Oh, for me, it's fast.
06:01That's cool.
06:01But bro, what you just did, though, I got to commend you.
06:04Like, not a lot of people could do that.
06:06You hearing something.
06:07You know what I'm saying?
06:08To your point, it's saying something to you.
06:10Yeah, yeah.
06:10You know what I mean?
06:11Like, you're already picking up the cadence.
06:13Like, dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun.
06:18Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
06:18Like, bro, that's how it starts.
06:19That's how it starts, right?
06:21For sure.
06:21You got a pattern, and then now you just feel the words.
06:24So like, what I like to do, right?
06:25When I got something like that, what does it sound like?
06:28Yeah.
06:29What does it sound like you saying?
06:31Yep.
06:32I want to do that.
06:33Send us to that.
06:35Send us to that.
06:36What?
06:37What?
06:38We got to move back.
06:39Send us to that.
06:41They be like, who that?
06:42What?
06:43What?
06:44They be like, who that?
06:45You ain't knew that.
06:47You know what I mean?
06:48Oh.
06:49What I do is, we take that flow.
06:51You hear a bunch of words in there, and then you decide what sounds the best.
06:57You know what I mean?
06:58To like, what you want to express.
06:59So I hear, they be like, who that?
07:01Yeah.
07:02What?
07:03They be like, who that?
07:05I also hear something about, so like, boom.
07:08Who that kind of becomes the main part of that, right?
07:11Yeah, yeah, yeah.
07:11So what can we substitute?
07:13Like, who that?
07:14Who that?
07:16Move back.
07:17Yeah.
07:17Move back.
07:18Move back.
07:19I also hear, don't want to do that.
07:23You know what I'm saying?
07:24Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
07:25This is crazy.
07:27I need to, like, tape them out.
07:27Yo, can we get a pen and a paper?
07:29Yeah, exactly, exactly.
07:31Oh, boy.
07:32They be like, who that?
07:33Hold on.
07:34All right, look.
07:35All right.
07:35Y'all got to write some heat, bro.
07:39So it's like, when I step in, they say, who that?
07:42Oh, no, that's just.
07:43Let's see, let's see.
07:43When I step in.
07:44Oh, when I step in, they move back.
07:47Oh, when I step in, they move back.
07:49All right.
07:50What?
07:50They be like, who that?
07:52When I step in, they move back.
07:54Oh.
07:54Who that?
07:55Yeah.
07:55They be like, who that?
07:57When I step in, they move back.
07:58Don't want to move that.
08:04What I like to do sometimes, right, to help me with this part, I just write a bunch of
08:08things that rhymes.
08:10Even if it don't make sense right now, just to, I create, like, a bank.
08:13So we got, who that move back, right?
08:17We got do that.
08:18We got through that.
08:20We got blue back.
08:23We got, you know what I'm saying?
08:24I just, like, identifying everything that I could shoot back.
08:28But, let's not get stuck right here in this rhyme pattern.
08:32Okay.
08:32Because you said the back, back, back, we could go to a different rhyme pattern now.
08:37We don't have to stay confined to who that, do that, move back.
08:41Yeah.
08:41Let's just think about the next thing we want to say.
08:43Okay, okay, okay.
08:43You know what I'm saying?
08:44So, all right.
08:45So what's the next thing we say?
08:47They be like, who that?
08:48Now step in, they move back, back, back, back.
08:52Hold up.
08:53Try to hear something else.
08:54Yeah.
08:54And I got those shades on.
08:56Da-da-da-tape on.
08:58Yeah, I'm going to say I got shades on.
09:00Okay.
09:00And I got those shades on.
09:02Yeah.
09:02I got my maid on.
09:04I got my maid on.
09:05I know I'm here to win.
09:08Just, just.
09:09Okay.
09:10Just go ahead.
09:10Just, bro, whatever's coming to your head, just write it.
09:12All right, man.
09:13That's good.
09:14That's good.
09:15If you keep the pen moving, that's good.
09:16We clean it up after.
09:17Yeah.
09:18You know what I'm saying?
09:18You're my king.
09:21Over here.
09:24Losing the sin.
09:25You know I'm here to win.
09:27And I'm playing with my kin.
09:29Over here, losing the sin.
09:30Out here with my twin.
09:31It's just me and twin.
09:32Yeah.
09:33It's just me and twin.
09:35Dude, we got rights to spend.
09:37All right, that's something.
09:38That's like a, that's a little something.
09:39Yeah, all right, let's play with that.
09:40You see the difference between the beat saying something to you?
09:44Yeah.
09:44And you feeling the words out?
09:46Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
09:47And then you.
09:48Feeling it and just saying it.
09:49And then you looking for words?
09:51Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
09:52That's the difference between what feels natural and what could feel forced.
09:55That's nice.
09:55That's why I'm always like, well, what do you feel?
09:58Yeah, yeah.
09:59That's why that was such a good entry point because then now all you got to do is just put
10:04the words in there because you already naturally is like, da, da, da, da.
10:07Like, that was you.
10:09Yeah, yeah, yeah.
10:09That was you.
10:09That was naturally what you felt on this shit.
10:12For sure.
10:12So you always want to chase that.
10:14Come on, like, keep going.
10:15Keep going.
10:16Just feel it out.
10:16Fuck the words.
10:17Fuck the words.
10:21Let's just go back.
10:23Yeah, see?
10:28I'm in this thing with Twins.
10:32You know we want to spend.
10:34Hold up.
10:34Yeah.
10:35Just say when.
10:36I'm in this thing.
10:38And we do this thing.
10:41And we're out here.
10:43Don't think about it, bro.
10:45Don't think about it.
10:45Don't think about it.
10:45Don't say we out here.
10:47No, you see you think about it too hard.
10:48Just don't fuck words.
10:50Even if you say gibberish.
10:51Yeah, yeah, yeah.
10:51Just, just, I just want you to give me your best flow.
10:53Do it.
10:54Do it.
10:55Do it.
10:56Do it.
10:57Do it.
10:57Do it.
10:58Do it.
10:59Do it.
10:59Do it.
10:59Do it.
10:59Do it.
10:59Do it.
11:00Do it.
11:00Do it.
11:00Do it.
11:00Do it?
11:00Do it.
11:01What?
11:01Switch it up again.
11:03Huh?
11:03Hey.
11:04Give me some love.
11:05Yeah.
11:06So I.
11:07And then we.
11:08And play.
11:08OK.
11:09And do it.
11:10Right.
11:10OK.
11:11Yeah.
11:11Then they change my name, and then they do their thing, and then we flow again.
11:16Come on.
11:17Hey, I don't know what I'm doing, I'm just spinning and flowing, and now we're going
11:22and going.
11:23Hey, hey, just playing to win, and we don't sin, we do this again and again.
11:29Hey, hey, something like that kind of, I'm kind of off in the heat now.
11:34Hey.
11:36All right, look, let's lay some.
11:38Yeah, yeah, yeah.
11:39Let's lay some.
11:39Let's do this.
11:40Now that's the next part.
11:41You got to find your voice.
11:42Exactly.
11:43You got to find your voice in this shit.
11:45All right.
11:48Okay, ready?
11:52Find the flow, bro.
11:53We just came to win, and we'll do it again and again.
11:56Fuck the words.
11:56No words.
11:57No words.
12:00Just feel it.
12:01No words.
12:06You got to do all that, though.
12:09You got to let it out.
12:10Yeah.
12:10Yeah.
12:11It's like stretching.
12:12You know what I'm saying?
12:12You got to.
12:13Yeah.
12:13You never heard your voice on the microphone.
12:15So see what it could do.
12:17See what it could do.
12:17Let it out.
12:19Do all the weird shit.
12:20Yeah.
12:22Go balling.
12:24Yeah.
12:25Yeah.
12:26I don't know if we get word rap.
12:30Yeah.
12:32Yeah.
12:41Look, bro, that was, see, so this is part of the process, you know what I'm saying?
12:45You got to remember, you never heard yourself on a microphone.
12:49You never heard your voice coming out of a microphone in your ears.
12:53So what you just did, like, bro, again, I know it feel funny and it feel foolish, but
12:58I'm actually loving what you're doing.
13:00And the reason why is because it's like stretching, you know what I'm saying?
13:04You got to hear what your voice sounds like.
13:07For sure.
13:08Stretch it, you know what I'm saying?
13:09Do the weird shit with the inflections and everything because what you're doing is fine
13:15tuning.
13:16It's like when you're tuning a guitar, you're fine tuning your instrument, which is your
13:20voice.
13:21Like what I realized, bro, you sound the best when you're just having fun.
13:24Like when you're just bullshitting, like keep that, keep that spirit.
13:28This is not serious, bro.
13:30Bro, we're not putting this music up.
13:31Exactly.
13:31I want you to have as much fun as you possibly can.
13:34You know what I'm saying?
13:34For sure.
13:35Be the miles that's on the team.
13:36Like we packing jokes right now.
13:38Okay, bro, bro.
13:38Any time I see that glimpse of you, that's what sounds the best.
13:41For sure.
13:42Just have fun, bro.
13:43All right, bro.
13:43Just have fun.
13:45Back in the booth.
13:46Be you, bro.
13:46Be as silly as fucking possible.
13:49All right, cool, cool, cool.
13:50All right, let's go.
13:50Ready?
13:51Here we go!
13:51Uh, when I slip in that mood back, back, back, back, uh, when I slip in that mood back, back,
14:11back, uh, when I slip in that mood back, back, back, uh, then I gotta move back, back, back, back,
14:16uh, and we got that money to spend, and we do this again and again, and you know that's time
14:20they friend.
14:21I'm doing all types of flows, and it goes, it goes, it goes, and you know that Joey knows that
14:26these is highs and lows, and that I know they're toes, and that I stack with Chance the Rapper, then
14:30we go back like Ta-Ta-Tacker, then we got that lip, like that record, I'm just laughing, I know
14:34it's a stacker, I just really don't even know what I'm saying, but I even know that I'm playing, that's
14:42not serious, this is just jokes, love is good, hey, okay, I'm kinda losing steam, but you know it's always
14:50just a dream.
14:51That was good, that was good, you know what I like that you did, I like that, so you got
14:58a tone in there, that I feel like you just discovered on there, when you went calm, you know what
15:03I'm saying, like, I feel like your voice sounded real smooth in that pocket right there, you know what I'm
15:09saying, bro, that's what I'm saying, right now, it's just about you getting free, because we can write the best
15:14shit, and it's gonna sound whack if you don't feel free, you know what I mean, you gotta feel, I
15:19know it feels silly,
15:20I know it feels silly, and it's supposed to, it's your first time, it's your first time, it's supposed to
15:25feel silly, that's what I'm saying, we're digging deep, trying to find that, we're bringing them out, you know what
15:30I'm saying, if you think this is fucking funny and foolish, wait till we get on that soccer court, that
15:34soccer field, bro, that's what I'm looking forward to at this point, yeah, you know what I'm saying, like, then
15:39I'm gonna be the fucking baby in the room, you know what I mean, so, but this is good though,
15:43bro, like, trust me, this is good, like, the expectation is wrong,
15:46if you think that, like, we're about to just write a billboard hit, or some shit like that, like, what
15:52we're doing, like, we're making a lot of progress, because what this whole experience is gonna do for you, is
15:58make the next time you do this, easier,
16:02Let's listen to some of this, but it's going to be funny.
16:06I ain't going to lie, you hit like a pocket or two on this tape.
16:11That right there, hold on, hold on, hold on.
16:13Stop it, stop it.
16:13Take those first two bars.
16:15You was on to something there.
16:17It's coming up.
16:18I'm telling you.
16:23Right there.
16:24Just take that part, just take that part.
16:26That right there, that's a new flow you unlock.
16:29You know what I'm saying?
16:29That's something that we could feel with words.
16:32You know what I'm saying?
16:37Yeah, it's tough.
16:37So this is like a cool part of the process right here.
16:41I'm not even saying words.
16:43I'm just spitting my words.
16:45Bop, bop.
16:46Choppy butt.
16:48I like how your voice sounded.
16:51You want Dr. Seuss right here.
16:53He's saying hot, bop.
16:57Oh, this dude.
16:58This is the tone I was saying.
17:00Go back.
17:01Go back to that part.
17:03He's saying it.
17:04But I know that I'm playing.
17:06That's not serious.
17:07This is just jokes.
17:08Love is good.
17:09Hey, okay, I'm kind of losing steam.
17:12But you know it's always just a dream.
17:14Right there.
17:15Okay, I'm kind of losing steam.
17:16Take that part.
17:17Hey, okay, I'm kind of losing steam.
17:20But you know it's always just a dream.
17:23See?
17:24You sound comfortable.
17:25Yeah.
17:26You sound comfortable.
17:27Yeah.
17:27Like I like your voice in that tone.
17:29Like bro, I gotta give you credit.
17:30Like this shit is not easy.
17:31I love bro.
17:32Welcome to my world.
17:33Welcome to my world.
17:34I appreciate it.
17:34This shit is not easy.
17:35You know what I'm saying?
17:36I appreciate it, bro.
17:37But it's like, it's a lot that goes into this shit.
17:40100%.
17:40You know what I'm saying?
17:41Like people just look at artists and rappers.
17:43It's like, give me the best bars ever.
17:45There's so much that goes into it.
17:46And it's the whole process.
17:47It's like, damn.
17:47Like, do I like my voice like this?
17:49Do I want my voice to sound like this?
17:50Should I have more energy?
17:52Like what type of pocket?
17:53Yeah.
17:53What should I say?
17:54Is that too much?
17:56I gotta reel it in.
17:59Yeah.
18:00Should I have more fun?
18:01Bro, it's a lot that goes into this shit.
18:04So, I say on your first day, bro, I think you did great.
18:06I appreciate it.
18:07I appreciate it.
18:09To really listen to your heart and move from your heart type of thing.
18:10I'm telling you.
18:11That right there.
18:12That little...
18:14You was on to something, man.
18:15Yeah, okay.
18:16You was on to something, man.
18:17That's the type of shit you want to chase.
18:19Yeah, that was dope.
18:20That was dope for sure.
18:21Yeah.
18:22I'm excited.
18:22YZ.
18:23Appreciate you, bro.
18:24Appreciate it.
18:30You know, I am so funny.
18:34I'll see you next time.
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