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01:29να κάνει, Trump, racisme, η οικογένεια είναι λίγο.
01:35Αυτό το πιο πολύ σημαντικό σημαντικό πρόβλημα για πολιτική πολιτική.
01:41Αυτό είναι αυτοί και δεν είναι σημαντικό σημαντικό.
01:44Και τι είναι η φωτία της Βουλικής Κύπης.
01:51Αυτό είναι για τους κοινωνικούς και εδώ είναι.
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02:25An Austrian MEP from the Central-Right European People's Party.
02:28In the European Parliament, he sits in the Committees on Development, Legal Affairs and Civil Liberties, Justice and Home Affairs.
02:35In the run-up to the 2026 World Cup, he says,
02:39For these few weeks, football makes the world a family.
02:42To make it political or posh will not help.
02:49So let me welcome to the ring Lukas Mandl and Rasmus Andresen.
02:53Great to have you here.
02:55Good to see you.
02:56Now, the aim of the ring is to offer our viewers a glimpse at European Parliament debates,
03:02so you should feel right at home here.
03:04Are you ready?
03:05I think so, yes.
03:06We are ready.
03:07Good.
03:08Now, after all we've heard about the non-football-related issues in the run-up of the tournament,
03:14are you still excited about the World Cup?
03:17I'm totally excited.
03:18Football is king for the weeks ahead.
03:21Such a big game that's involving so many people worldwide is automatically with some political impact,
03:28but to politicize it purposely would be the absolutely wrong thing to do.
03:33I see the trouble.
03:34We will talk about it in today's discussion, but in the first place, also for myself, as a fan, I
03:41see the excitement about the game.
04:11Okay.
04:13Well, we need to ensure that football still will be the sports for the people and not for some very
04:19few.
04:19Was it smart to give the tournament to three countries covering half a continent?
04:26I think, yes.
04:27Actually, it became the habit that big games would be hosted by several countries, which is cross-border.
04:35And cross-border even more provides sports to be a factor that makes people a family, the world a family.
04:43So it's good that there are three host countries.
04:45Of course, there are always also political implications, also due to the current U.S. president, of course.
04:53But I think this part of the decision is a good one.
04:56But if the venues, the teams, the fans are hundreds of kilometers, thousands of kilometers away,
05:03how can you, you know, inspire that vibe and festivity if they're in, you know, remote places scattered across the
05:12United States, Canada and Mexico?
05:14Yeah, well, I mean, that's a fair question to ask.
05:17And if you ask me, I think the tournament is far too big.
05:20And the reason for this is not that they want to promote the values of football all over the world
05:27and they don't want to connect the world together.
05:30But what they want to create is money and profits.
05:34And in a way, you can say that's fine.
05:37Sports had always been a business.
05:39But for me, some of the decisions made by the FIFA in the run-up for the tournament have been
05:47too much.
05:48And one of the issues I think we have to deal with is that the tournament is too big.
05:54There are too many countries participating.
05:57The tournament takes too long time.
05:59It has an impact also for clubs at national level who have to suffer.
06:05It has an impact on the players and the health of the players because we are creating a lot of
06:11matches.
06:12And this is why I'm a bit skeptical about that.
06:14I think next time it's going to be in Spain, Portugal and Morocco.
06:17It's also kind of an odd mix.
06:19Exactly.
06:20Yeah.
06:21That part at least will be better in four years when we will have it in Europe together with Morocco,
06:26of course,
06:27because the distances will be smaller.
06:29And I think these dynamic pricing systems, which makes tickets not a business, which is good.
06:37I agree with that.
06:38But makes them a posh adventure.
06:41It's just wrong.
06:43And this is why a more decent approach on European soil in four years will be better.
06:48But this doesn't take anything away from the excitement about football.
06:51Are you sure?
06:52I mean, the fans will basically meet each other at airports.
06:56What about the environmental footprint?
06:59I mean, the environmental footprint of this tournament is a big catastrophe.
07:03I mean, we can be very clear about that also because the national teams have to travel on long distances
07:09with planes.
07:11The fans need to do the same.
07:12If you, for example, would like to follow the German team, you have to take the plane for a long
07:18distance to reach all of the different games.
07:20But what I think is much more concerning is that this tournament is really something regular citizens can't afford.
07:28You need to have a lot of money if you want to watch the game because the prices are far
07:33too high for the tickets.
07:34But also to travel in the U.S.
07:37Even with public transport is far too expensive.
07:41And this means that, like, the idea of that the world comes together, supporters meet each other, are not realistic
07:51any longer, at least in this tournament.
07:53Well, when you're talking about public transport, it's basically no public transport in the United States.
07:57But even in cities like New York or New Jersey, where we could see some news about that, like, the
08:04prices were, like, ten times higher than they normally were.
08:08So even there, you cannot afford to go to the stadium or to travel to the stadium by train.
08:14Is that an issue here?
08:16Absolutely.
08:17I mean, there's a lot that stands between us.
08:19Not only that my colleague is from the Greens, I'm from the Christian Democrats.
08:23He's even German and I'm Austrian.
08:24And it's the bigger difference, especially when it comes to the World Cup.
08:27But to be serious, these algorithms that stand behind this pricing does not serve a very important cause.
08:34That football has always been inclusive, something for everybody.
08:38I mean, in front of TV, with the whole excitement, everything around worldwide, it will still be something for everybody.
08:46So we must not forget that.
08:48But this is a bad example of too posh adventure.
08:52I'm glad you say that, because what we've seen so far is not that many fans on the ground just
09:01yet.
09:01We'll see, right?
09:02But there's another aspect.
09:04Many fans just fear to fall into the hands of the U.S. immigration system, get locked up or whatever.
09:13Is this understandable?
09:14Absolutely.
09:15There was a referee from Somalia, I've heard, who was held back for hours and hours at the airport entering
09:21the U.S.
09:22There were even in regular times before the World Cup, ICE agents even approaching playgrounds of children, basically football playgrounds,
09:33where they assumed to find people they wanted to detain in the end.
09:39And even children would be detained by them.
09:41So there is something ongoing which can be of concern.
09:45And we have to observe it carefully.
09:47We have the issue with the Ebola outbreak in Congo.
09:51Generally, there would be a restriction for traveling from Congo to the U.S.
09:57We will see how that applies to the players and maybe the fans and everybody around.
10:03And, of course, the big, the elephant in the room, as the saying says, is that for the first time
10:08in history, two countries at war are not only meeting,
10:12but one of the countries is the host country and the other country sends a national team, which has already
10:17misused the whole situation for a political statement, by the way.
10:20I mean, the Iranian team.
10:21But we will see how this can be observed.
10:25Obviously, for the time being, Iran will only play in Mexico.
10:28At this point in age, we cannot separate football from politics, right?
10:34There's the accusation of racism.
10:36You mentioned a Somali referee that came to Miami and wasn't let in.
10:41There was the team from Senegal that was, you know, pulled out of the plane, put on the tarmac,
10:47and then had to undergo a very aggressive search operation.
10:52This is not really what we want to see at the World Cup, right?
10:56No.
10:56And I have to say that I think the FIFA is doing a very bad job in protecting their own
11:05referees,
11:06some of the players, and I guess also the supporters, in dealing with the U.S. administration
11:14in a way which, like, more or less is protecting the U.S. administration
11:23and especially President Trump, and they want to avoid big conflicts with the current administration.
11:30And this I found quite weird in a way, I have to say, because, I mean,
11:36you can have different opinions on the political situation in the U.S. and so on,
11:42and it's maybe not up to the FIFA president to take a big stance on this,
11:46but not even protecting their own participants in their tournament,
11:51which are necessary to organize it, is in a way weird from my perspective.
11:57Let me just stop you here.
11:57We'll be talking about this in a moment as we are just getting warmed up here.
12:03Now it's time for Gloves Off.
12:10Now we want viewers to get a real flavor of the European Parliament Chamber
12:14where members ask each other questions.
12:17That means we want our debaters to challenge each other directly,
12:21just as you do in the hemicycle.
12:24Let's get started with Lukas Mandl.
12:26Dear colleague, you have advocated for boycotting the World Cup.
12:30I don't agree with that.
12:31I think the excitement about football is much bigger than politics can ever be.
12:35And the direct question would be, how would you explain to, let's say,
12:39a child excited about football, just interested into football and this exciting game,
12:44how would you explain to such a child to boycott the game?
12:47I did not advocate to boycott the tournament, especially not for supporters.
12:52But what I think politicians should do is to take a clear stance
12:55and to criticize both the FIFA but also the current U.S. administration
12:59on the mistakes they are making when it also comes to organizing sports.
13:05And there I think that politicians have a different kind of responsibility,
13:11meaning that they should not travel there and be part of the tournament
13:16and greenlight both the actions of the FIFA and of the U.S. president.
13:22So for me it's not a general boycott, but I think as politicians we should not go there
13:26and then support...
13:28Well, we have to tell the child that most games are in the middle of the night.
13:32And it's also true.
13:33Watch it.
13:34All right, Raskus, your question.
13:35That's up to the parents, I guess, to decide.
13:38My question goes on the question,
13:41if you think we need to regulate European football in general,
13:47also with regulation we can do at European level,
13:51also because, and this is what I understood,
13:54you're also very critical about what we can see on the ticket prices, for example.
13:59So my question would be how should we address that
14:02or should we address that as legislators
14:05or is this something the FIFA and other organizations need to deal with?
14:09Well, thanks for the question
14:10because I also wanted to echo what you have just said,
14:13that criticism is good, I think,
14:15but we also have to act to contribute to a better solution,
14:19better circumstances in four years from now
14:20when Europe will be mainly the soil where the World Cup will take place.
14:27And I think regulation is not the first word that comes to my mind
14:30when it comes to that
14:30because I think there is a lot of freedom and opportunity to decide responsibly.
14:35but I think what we need is clear lines for what responsibility means
14:39for a game that affects the whole world,
14:41for a game that involves everybody,
14:44men and women, by the way, today more than ever,
14:46in four years more than today
14:48and that it can also make the world a family
14:51in the best sense one can imagine.
14:54This will not happen to the full extent this year
14:58but it can happen in four years when we contribute to responsibility.
15:01We must also not overestimate our say as lawmakers.
15:06I mean, we make laws especially to protect freedom
15:09and this is also the freedom of decision of FIFA, of UEFA
15:14as long as there are responsibility boundaries
15:17and this is what I want to contribute to
15:19and I think we can work on that together in four years from now.
15:24Okay. Do you have another question to Rasmus?
15:27Who will win the World Cup?
15:30I hope, my hope goes to Germany.
15:32That puts him in the bind here, I see.
15:34What?
15:35That puts you in a bind now.
15:37My hope goes to Germany
15:38but I think it will be Spain or France.
15:43Just, it occurs to me,
15:45four years ago the World Cup was in Qatar.
15:48Four years before that it was in Russia.
15:51does FIFA have a blind eye when it comes to, you know, hosting these tournaments?
15:57I mean, do we...
15:58And this year we have a huge discussion about, you know, Trump's America.
16:02Isn't that unfortunate?
16:04I mean, I'm not here in any way to defend FIFA.
16:08I think there are decision-takers with good decisions, with bad decisions.
16:13I just wanted to draw the picture on the larger overview.
16:16The decisions of the venues for games like this,
16:19especially the Football World Cup,
16:20have been taken many years before political developments broke out.
16:25and this was true for Russia.
16:28By the way, when we discuss Iran and USA today,
16:32we as Europeans know very well that with Russian sports teams in many areas,
16:37very often agents and spies come along.
16:39But, I mean, also I remember how naive the world was,
16:43not only FIFA,
16:44how naive when it came to the games in Qatar.
16:47All the world was about judging, for example,
16:50the labor standards when the stadiums were built and so on in Qatar.
16:54I have some confidence that today such naivety would not occur anymore.
16:59At least in Qatar the distances were shorter.
17:03Rasmus, your take on this and then we move on.
17:05Well, on the other side, like I think also back that time
17:09there had been a lot of criticism on that the tournament took place in Qatar
17:14because of good reasons, human rights situations,
17:17workers' rights and so on, freedom of media, for example.
17:22I think they have a blind spot, FIFA has a blind spot
17:25and for me this is an argument for that the big football associations
17:31like the FIFA are money-driven
17:34and they are arguing with values they are not really following up to
17:40and that's what I'm mostly criticizing
17:43and this we could see with a lot of examples
17:46and this is what I think needs to change.
17:49Okay, well, we've heard the views from our guests.
17:52Now it's time to hear from a new voice.
17:58I would like to bring in Gianni Infantino,
18:01the president of FIFA at the 50th UEFA Congress in Brussels in April.
18:07He said this,
18:09our responsibility is to give 90 minutes of a match
18:13where people can forget their issues,
18:15the problems they have at home,
18:17they have in work,
18:18they have in their countries,
18:20they have on a political level.
18:23Is he right?
18:24Of course he's right.
18:25I mean, that's the basic thing you have to say.
18:27No matter whether one decision of him is bad,
18:29the other one would be good.
18:30One can argue about FIFA, about any organization as well.
18:33But of course this quote is exactly how I see it.
18:36Well, from my perspective, he's not right
18:39because that's not what he's doing
18:42and what he's participating in
18:45or how he's organizing the sports.
18:47Football had been community-driven for more than 100 years
18:51and I think that organizations like FIFA
18:54and people like Mr. Infantino
18:59are part of the process
19:01which are taking this away from football
19:05and where he basically is supporting commercialization
19:12and on the other side sports washing.
19:15So if he sits next to President Trump in the football stadium
19:18and he will sometimes be on camera
19:23seen by people back home,
19:24then it's not so easy for immigrants, for example,
19:27to enjoy the nice game
19:29they want to see being played
19:31because they are confronted with his brothership
19:35or friendship with Donald Trump.
19:38So I think he's right in what it should be about
19:42but he's not living up to that completely.
19:46Let's take a break here on The Ring.
19:48We'll be back with more after this.
19:50Don't go away.
20:00Welcome back to The Ring Euronews' weekly debate show.
20:03I'm Stefan Grob and I'm joined by Osmus Andresen
20:06from The Greens from Germany
20:08and Lukas Mandl from the European People's Party from Austria.
20:11At this point, let's take a look at fan excitement
20:15or should I say demand versus reality.
20:20According to FIFA,
20:21there have been over 500 million ticket requests
20:25and more than 5 million tickets have been allocated
20:27at early sales phases.
20:30But according to a survey
20:32by the American Hotel and Lodging Association,
20:3580% of hotel operators said
20:37bookings were below their initial forecasts.
20:41and between 65% and 70% of respondents said
20:45visa barriers and geopolitical concerns
20:48were suppressing international demand.
20:51So, anticipated demand has not translated
20:54into strong hotel bookings so far.
20:58Your comments on this?
20:59Well, I mean, that's because of the general price level,
21:02I think, both when it comes to the tickets
21:06but also to other elements you need to pay for
21:10if you travel and normally people are traveling
21:13to the country even if they don't have tickets
21:15or can't afford the tickets
21:17because they want to be part of that.
21:19But this cannot be the case in the U.S.
21:21because it's far too expensive
21:23and then there are some political issues
21:25that people have concerns about going there
21:27because they don't know
21:29if they are allowed to enter the country
21:32because of their nationality
21:34or because they maybe posted something
21:35on social media
21:36the president doesn't like.
21:38There's also Canada and Mexico.
21:39Yeah.
21:40We forgot about that so far.
21:41But the tournament mainly takes part in the U.S.
21:43Lucas, that's right.
21:44That's right.
21:44The ticket prices are a sign of a decadent society.
21:49Not all ticket prices
21:50but when it comes to this dynamic pricing
21:52the algorithms in the end
21:54the numbers that are told from there
21:57are absolutely crazy.
21:59It's like when the ancient Rome came to an end
22:01this is not at all a game for everybody.
22:04This is not even a game for a minority.
22:06This is a game for maybe extremely wealthy people
22:10if this goes that direction.
22:12This is absurd.
22:12This is wrong.
22:13This has to be excluded.
22:14Just to open a bracket here
22:17the ticket for the final is about $10,000.
22:21I have even seen already larger prices
22:24in this dynamic pricing system than that.
22:27These extreme examples of where this dynamic pricing system
22:31can lead to are something we have to exclude
22:33for example for what will happen in four years from now in Europe.
22:37Is the best way to follow the matches in one's living room?
22:41Well, I don't know.
22:43I mean, you can still go in a bar and follow it.
22:46I know very well that the new mayor of New York City,
22:49Sora Mandami,
22:50he is a big football fan
22:52and he organized some community-driven events
22:55like we would like to see it
22:56taking place in different cities.
23:00but at least my feeling is that you don't have the same happening
23:05on the streets in the public here with this tournament
23:09than you had earlier.
23:10All right, now it's time to move on
23:13to our fifth and final round.
23:18We're going to do something different.
23:21I'm going to ask you a set of questions
23:23and you can only answer with a yes or no.
23:27All right, let's get started.
23:30Most matches will take place in the middle of the night,
23:32as I said.
23:34Do you plan on watching them anyway?
23:36Absolutely.
23:37Austria will play one time.
23:38I think it's four in the morning in Austrian time.
23:40I will definitely watch it.
23:42I even have invited friends for that.
23:43We will have morning coffee and watch Austria win.
23:45Okay.
23:45Okay.
23:46I will watch most of it, I guess,
23:49but sometimes we have to negotiate
23:51important legislation in the parliament
23:54and then I also need to get some rest
23:56to be ready for that.
23:57Okay.
23:58Has FIFA effectively turned World Cup 2026
24:01into a political branding exercise
24:03for the host governments?
24:05Yes or no?
24:05Yes, and not for the good.
24:07I mean, they gave a peace prize to Donald Trump.
24:10I think no or not yet to be told.
24:12I don't agree with every FIFA decision,
24:14but, for example, this very present decision
24:17about this peace prize
24:18for the current U.S. president by FIFA,
24:20I mean, it tells more about the current U.S. president
24:23than about FIFA.
24:24Does giving the World Cup to three host nations
24:27make political accountability harder?
24:32It makes it harder,
24:34but I think there are still advantages
24:36of having such games,
24:38also Olympics, other World Cups,
24:39in many countries,
24:40while the distances are a problem.
24:42I think the distances are the real problem.
24:43and not that it's three nations.
24:44Talked about that.
24:45It makes it harder,
24:46but that's also a reason for supporting,
24:49for example, civil society,
24:50like supporter organizations,
24:52human rights organizations on the ground,
24:54which are doing extraordinary and good work,
24:58excellent work,
24:59in following what is actually happening
25:02and also reporting back
25:03so that you can also come up with problems
25:07like in a political sphere.
25:08Will security and immigration politics
25:09become one of the defining stories
25:12of this tournament?
25:13I mean, that depends on us,
25:14how we perceive it as fans,
25:16as citizens,
25:18also in public sphere.
25:19I mean, if we pay attention
25:20to the current U.S. president
25:21more than to football,
25:23it's also partly our mistake.
25:24Football is king now.
25:25Okay.
25:26I don't think it's our mistake
25:28to criticize if referees
25:30are not allowed to enter the country
25:31or to discuss what is actually going on
25:37with the Trump administration
25:39when it comes to immigration
25:41and other questions.
25:43Security is part of this
25:45and both the FIFA
25:47and the U.S. administration
25:49are doing a lot,
25:51which then again needs to get a response.
25:54Okay.
25:55Next question.
25:56Will Austria win the World Cup?
25:58No.
25:59Of course.
26:01Of course I support Austria
26:03and I'm a natural born optimist.
26:04So the next question is
26:04will Germany win the World Cup?
26:06Not at all.
26:07Okay.
26:08I'm afraid we won't do it,
26:10but I would love it.
26:12Okay.
26:12And finally,
26:14was there anything
26:15over the last half hour
26:17that you heard your opponents say
26:20that you agree with?
26:21I start with you.
26:22I've heard a lot,
26:23for example,
26:23the strong criticism
26:25on the ticket prices
26:26and the general development.
26:28I think where we maybe
26:30have a bit different opinion
26:31is on if politics should act
26:34and I think we should act
26:35and we should come up
26:36with some solutions
26:37because we can see
26:38that FIFA is not able
26:40in doing that alone.
26:41Okay.
26:41agreement with Lucas?
26:43I agree with the excitement
26:43about football.
26:44I agree with a lot
26:45that has been stated already.
26:47I even agree
26:48that something has to be done.
26:49Maybe the how
26:50and what exactly
26:51has to be done
26:52is something we have
26:52to work out together,
26:54whether it's rather regulation
26:55or rather contributing
26:56to your responsibility.
26:58I think political engineering
27:00is always the ultima ratio,
27:02the last possible option,
27:04not the first thing.
27:05And we will prove in Europe
27:06in four years from now
27:07we will make it better
27:09and also learn
27:09from the lessons this time.
27:10but now, as I said,
27:12football is king.
27:13All right.
27:13Wonderful conclusion.
27:15And that final answer
27:16brings us to the end
27:17of this edition of The Ring.
27:20Thanks again to Rasmus Andresen
27:21and Lukas Mandl
27:22for a lively conversation
27:23here from the European Parliament.
27:25Thanks to our audience at home.
27:27If you like,
27:28you can continue the conversation
27:30by sending us your comments
27:32to the ring at euronews.com.
27:34We'd love to have your feedback.
27:36That's it for today.
27:38I'm Stefan Grobe.
27:39Take care and see you soon
27:40here on Euronews.
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