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‘Stop! That! Train!’ co-stars and former 'RuPaul's Drag Race' contestants Symone and Jujubee sit down for a game of Lie v. Lie—and the drag icons waste no time calling each other out. With nothing but suspicious stories, questionable memories, and years of friendship both in the spotlight and behind the scenes, the pair swap tales about red carpet encounters, disastrous day jobs, and the moments that made them fall in love with drag.
Did Jujubee really bond with Paula Abdul over fish and cats? Would Symone dare to lie about her VMAs encounter with KATSEYE? What was Lisa Rinna really like on set? From confronting 'Karens' before they even had a name, to their earliest experiences with RuPaul and more, the stories only get wilder as the game goes on.
Did Jujubee really bond with Paula Abdul over fish and cats? Would Symone dare to lie about her VMAs encounter with KATSEYE? What was Lisa Rinna really like on set? From confronting 'Karens' before they even had a name, to their earliest experiences with RuPaul and more, the stories only get wilder as the game goes on.
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00:00She did this and got in drag.
00:01Yeah, like, it was like magic.
00:06Well, I don't think you and I lie, though.
00:08We're not liars. We're not liars.
00:09We lie down.
00:10We lie down, but not liars.
00:12Okay, this is going to be an interesting battle.
00:17What is your favorite interaction that took place on a red carpet?
00:20Oh, this is fun.
00:21So, one time I was at the VMAs
00:24and I was doing correspondence for Nylon Magazine.
00:26Hey, girl.
00:27And a cat's eye comes up.
00:29And I flagged them down.
00:30They come over.
00:31I interview them.
00:32I tell them how lovely they look
00:33and how amazing they did with the little boo-boo reveal
00:36because my friend Mark made them a little boo-boo.
00:38And the girl, I don't remember her name,
00:40but it's the one who was fierce in the face.
00:43You know, because all of them are,
00:44but she's like fierce in the face.
00:46And she told me, she said,
00:47girl, this outfit right here you got going on?
00:50That's good.
00:51And you believe her?
00:52Of course I did.
00:53I looked great.
00:54Did you see the picture?
00:54I did. I did.
00:56Uh-huh.
00:56I think this is true.
00:58It is true.
00:58Why would I lie about that?
00:59Why would I lie about that?
01:00I know.
01:01Why would you lie?
01:02Because that is a proud moment.
01:03But also the tell for me was you go,
01:06oh, this is a good one.
01:09You could never be a lawyer.
01:11I could never be a lawyer.
01:12No, I have no reason.
01:13Good job.
01:14I got one point.
01:14When was the last time you were starstruck at an award show?
01:18At the New Now Next Awards.
01:19Yes.
01:20Which was a while ago.
01:22Mm-hmm.
01:23Paula Abdul stepped up and said I love you so much.
01:27I love your energy.
01:29And I couldn't like, I couldn't keep it to myself.
01:33And I think my voice actually cracked.
01:34What did it sound like when you did it?
01:36I was like, oh my God, it's so nice to meet you.
01:38And it was the most embarrassing thing for me.
01:41But we had a really good time.
01:42And what did y'all talk about?
01:43We talked about fish and cats.
01:46Why fish?
01:47Why cats?
01:48Because cats love fish and I love cats.
01:53Huh.
01:54I feel like.
01:55Because I don't know.
01:56Because you be talking, the way you be talking, I don't know.
01:59You good at this, Jew.
02:00Jew.
02:02Bee.
02:02Bee.
02:05My lie detector has determined that you are...
02:12I was lying, bitch.
02:14Are you lying?
02:15Girl, yes!
02:15What do you mean?
02:17We didn't talk about fish or cats.
02:18I just went, hi.
02:21We didn't talk, I just waved.
02:22You just waved, okay.
02:23Because it's Paula Abdul.
02:24It's Paula Abdul.
02:25Cold-hearted snake.
02:26Baby.
02:27Dee.
02:29Uh-oh.
02:31What's the funniest interaction you had with a Stop That Train co-star who isn't a drag queen?
02:36Hmm.
02:37Great question.
02:38And Entertainment Weekly.
02:39We were on set.
02:41Remember this?
02:42Raven-Symon was there.
02:44We were eating lunch.
02:46And...
02:47Don't look at me like that.
02:49Don't look at me like that with those inquisitive eyes.
02:51You're making me, like, forget.
02:53Think of what you're going to say?
02:55Is that what it is?
02:56We're eating lunch in the booth.
02:57You were there.
02:57We're eating rice.
02:58At the train station.
02:59Rice?
02:59Yes, it was rice.
03:00Were we?
03:01Yes!
03:02It was dirty rice.
03:03Dirty rice?
03:05Am I lying?
03:06Wait, I'm not good at this game.
03:07You see, this is not good for me.
03:08See?
03:08Okay, let me start over.
03:09Okay.
03:09No!
03:11Because I already know what the answer is.
03:14Baby girl, you're trying to think.
03:16We were eating dirty rice.
03:17We were eating dirty rice.
03:18Which they never served.
03:19This is my moment.
03:20I never wound up in my life before.
03:22This is your moment.
03:22This is it.
03:23I'm trying to give you your moment, Jujubee.
03:26You're welcome, actually.
03:27You are such a sister.
03:28Actually, you're welcome.
03:30Okay, I'm going to go ahead and say...
03:34Lies.
03:36Lies.
03:38Lies.
03:38Lies.
03:39It's a lie.
03:40It's a lie.
03:40In Stop That Train, you play a train stewardess.
03:43I do.
03:44What's a job you once worked that you would never work again and why?
03:47Ooh.
03:48I will tell you.
03:49Let me tell you something.
03:49What?
03:50My first job was at this place called Osco Drugs.
03:53Osco Drugs?
03:54And what did they do there?
03:55It was like a CVS.
03:57Oh!
03:57But before that.
03:59And 16.
04:00Uh-huh.
04:00Massachusetts.
04:01I was in Lowell, Massachusetts.
04:02And I was so excited because I never had a job before.
04:05Uh-huh.
04:06But girl, I was making $6.15 an hour.
04:09$6.15?
04:09That's...
04:10And you're supposed to be a northern state?
04:11Y'all supposed to be having liquid like $10 at least.
04:13No, but that's what it was.
04:14I mean, this was when I was 16.
04:17I'm turning 42.
04:18I like to think we're the same age.
04:19How old are you?
04:2031.
04:22Well, that's really nice.
04:24You're welcome.
04:26See, I'm being very terrible today.
04:27Oh my gosh.
04:28That job taught me that people aren't really nice.
04:31Like, I met Karens before Karens were Karens.
04:33Before they even had a name for her.
04:35Baby.
04:35I would never be a cashier at a pharmacy.
04:38But I am grateful for the experience because now I know that those types of people exist.
04:45And it's like, as Jinx Monsoon would say,
04:47Water for Ducks back.
04:49So what was the name of the establishment again?
04:50Osco Drugs.
04:51Which turned into Brooks Pharmacy.
04:53Who was your boss?
04:53What was her name?
04:54Or his name?
04:56Mark with a C.
04:57Mark with a C.
04:58Okay, honey.
04:59Gorgeous.
05:00Would've?
05:01Oh yeah.
05:02Okay.
05:02I think you're telling the truth.
05:04That was the truth.
05:05I believe you.
05:06That was the truth.
05:06I felt that.
05:07Wow.
05:08You were like invested in it.
05:09Wow.
05:09I got a point.
05:10Oh my God.
05:12I'm not gonna block with zero.
05:13That's exciting.
05:13And you know what's crazy?
05:14I could've just lied.
05:15You could've just lied.
05:16But you chose to tell the truth.
05:17Well because we're not liars.
05:18We're not liars.
05:19I'm not a good one.
05:21You get a point baby.
05:22Finally.
05:23But I got three.
05:27What was the moment you fell in love with drag?
05:29Oh my God.
05:29Okay.
05:30So this is a great question.
05:31So I, the first time I ever saw a drag queen was RuPaul.
05:34And she was on Sabrina the Teenage Witch.
05:37And she came in, she was out of drag.
05:39And she was like from the other world or something like that.
05:40And I remember, I'll never forget.
05:42I was sitting there watching it.
05:44Imagine me.
05:44Baby me.
05:45On the bed.
05:46The TV.
05:47Here.
05:47TGI Friday.
05:48Who?
05:49No.
05:50Yes.
05:51No.
05:51Saturday.
05:52TGI Saturday?
05:53Yes.
05:53That's not real.
05:54I know it's not but it came on for me on Saturday.
05:56Follow me.
05:57Arkansas.
05:57Boston.
05:58Two different states.
05:59Two different worlds.
06:00But Friday's only Friday though.
06:02But I came on on Saturday.
06:04Okay.
06:04Okay.
06:04Are you trying to get my experience?
06:06No, no, no.
06:06I'm just asking questions.
06:07Oh, okay.
06:07I was watching Sabrina the Teenage Witch.
06:09RuPaul came on.
06:10The thing.
06:11She was from the other world.
06:12And she did like that.
06:13And she became RuPaul we know on the television screen.
06:16And I said, oh, that's for me.
06:18That's how I know I love drag.
06:19She did this and got in drag?
06:20Yeah.
06:20It was like magic.
06:22Because it's Sabrina the Teenage Witch.
06:24What year was this?
06:25Now see, why are you trying to ask my age in front of these people?
06:27You just told us you were 30.
06:29That's different.
06:30Because now they're going to try and subtract and tell if I'm telling the truth or not.
06:33Well, that's what I'm trying to do.
06:35Probably like 12, 13.
06:36You're 31?
06:38I'm 31.
06:38Okay, 31 minus 10 is 21 minus 2 is 19.
06:42So that was 19 years ago.
06:43Yeah.
06:44Oh, bitch.
06:45That is a whole lie.
06:46No, okay, okay, okay.
06:47That is a lie.
06:48No, I didn't mess up what happened was I didn't mess up my own truth.
06:51That is right.
06:52I messed up my own truth.
06:52So you lied.
06:53And I lied.
06:54And you're wrong.
06:55And I'm wrong.
06:57Because I messed up the age.
06:59What happened was I shouldn't have put my age in there because you asked.
07:01But what my truth is, that's my truth.
07:04That's my truth.
07:06So you should be like this is really what you should say.
07:07No, no, no, no.
07:08My truth and facts aren't the same thing.
07:11It's a true lie.
07:13It's more of a truth than it is a lie.
07:16No, a lie is a lie though.
07:17No, not because I was trying to tell it Jujubee.
07:20I just simply forgot what age I was at the time.
07:23Yeah, you know what?
07:23You can have that.
07:25Oh my God.
07:26I'm lying.
07:28Girl, what is the best compliment you've ever received?
07:32Oh God.
07:33That's too easy.
07:34Okay.
07:34I received so many.
07:35You do?
07:39Honestly, it wasn't about like looks and it wasn't about like the appearance of things
07:44or like my outfit.
07:45I think it was about the heart.
07:47Aww.
07:48And I, whenever I receive compliments that talk about how I come off genuine and like,
07:55you know, we meet fans that are like,
07:56Oh my gosh, you're just like what I thought you were going to be.
07:58Because they do fear us when they meet us.
08:00They're always like, we didn't know.
08:02Girl, what did you expect?
08:03Well, some of us.
08:03Well, some of the girls do.
08:05I think that's why, I think that's why we're here.
08:08Because we're nice people.
08:10And with good heart.
08:11Yeah.
08:11Nice and kind.
08:12Nice and kind, which are two different things.
08:14Very.
08:14Those are two different.
08:15Nice is intention.
08:16Kind is in the heart.
08:17Yes.
08:18Yes.
08:18The best compliment I ever got was that I was genuine and I was loving and honest and
08:23heartful.
08:24You see, because this is, Juju, this is messed up.
08:27Because this is true.
08:29You are all of these things.
08:30And I believe you were told this.
08:33I'm going to have to go with this is the truth.
08:35And it is.
08:36It is.
08:37I knew it.
08:38Y'all, she really is.
08:39Wait, so we got a tie now?
08:42Yes.
08:44Bitch.
08:45What's the piece of advice you've gotten from your drag mother that you've passed along?
08:49You can say whatever you want as long as it's kind, true or necessary.
08:54God does not, does not give with two hands.
08:58Give with two hands.
08:59Two hands.
08:59Oh, I like that.
09:00That's good, right?
09:01Yeah, yeah, yeah.
09:01That's love.
09:01That's like a pillow.
09:02Those are the two, every time I think of her, those are the two that always come to mind.
09:06Okay.
09:06All right, girl.
09:07I say you're telling the truth.
09:10I am.
09:10I am telling the truth.
09:11Wow.
09:12There's this light in your eye when you talk about your drag mother.
09:14I love my drag mother.
09:15Shout out to Miss Grantasia.
09:16I love her.
09:17Miss Grantasia?
09:17Well, I call her Grant Vanderbilt, but I call her Miss Grantasia.
09:20Okay.
09:20I love you, Miss Grantasia.
09:21Will you be my drag mom?
09:23She's yes.
09:24Now I got four whites.
09:26What's the most ridiculous lie you told to get out of something?
09:30Okay.
09:31I was at a party.
09:32Okay.
09:32And I had to leave.
09:34What kind of party?
09:35It was a birthday party.
09:35Okay.
09:36My friend's birthday party.
09:37Mm-hmm.
09:37But I had to leave because I didn't want to do this there.
09:39And earlier on in the day, I had some food.
09:43What kind?
09:44It was a buffet.
09:47Uh-huh.
09:48And I tried the chili.
09:50Why did you try the buffet chili, sister?
09:51The thing about chili is I'm an equal opportunity chili eater.
09:56Wow.
09:56You don't scrimm it into no chili.
09:58Got beans in it, rice.
10:00Beef, beans, gravy.
10:01Who has rice in that?
10:03You eat it at the buffet, so who knows?
10:05Who does?
10:06You know.
10:06It was savory.
10:08Okay.
10:08It was smoky.
10:09It was delicious.
10:10It was beefy.
10:12So I had to go.
10:15And release it.
10:16So how did you lie?
10:17I actually didn't lie.
10:19You said I gotta go shit?
10:22Wait.
10:23Go get your point, bitch.
10:25Girl, I am.
10:25This is true.
10:26She truthfully did that.
10:27It was a lie.
10:29What?
10:30Yes.
10:31What?
10:31What did you mean?
10:32You didn't lie?
10:33You didn't shit?
10:33You didn't have to shit?
10:34Or did you lie to shit?
10:35None of that ever happened.
10:37I don't believe you.
10:38I remember an incident.
10:40On set.
10:41On set.
10:42On set.
10:42And you had no issue telling us this.
10:44Okay?
10:45And now you gonna sit here and tell me?
10:46Oh, that's what you was talking about on set.
10:48It wasn't a birthday party that was on set.
10:50That's the lie.
10:51I didn't figure it out.
10:52I didn't figure it out.
10:53I'll let you have it.
10:54That was the idea I went to my trailer.
10:55I didn't think we had tacos.
10:56I don't know.
10:57What is a risk you're glad you took even if it didn't work out?
11:00Ooh.
11:01What's his name?
11:02Oh, it was never.
11:03It was never a boy.
11:04Okay, good.
11:05Okay, so I used to live in Arkansas.
11:06And I was like, oh my God.
11:09I've reached the heights of drag that I can do here, or at least a drag I want to do.
11:11So what am I going to do?
11:13And so I decided I was going to save up my money, drop out of college.
11:17Don't do that.
11:18And I packed up all my things, the things I wanted, sold everything else or threw it away.
11:22And I moved out to California.
11:24And that was probably the biggest risk I've ever done in my life.
11:26Because guess what?
11:27We're here.
11:28Entertainment Weekly.
11:29You know what's crazy?
11:30What?
11:30That's the truth.
11:31I know!
11:31That's the truth!
11:32Yay!
11:35It's funny because when you tell the truth, there's a spark.
11:38There's a spark in my eye.
11:39There's a spark in your eye.
11:41The truth.
11:41I mean, is that really a big risk?
11:43That is a big risk.
11:44Is that the biggest risk I've done?
11:45I think that's a big risk.
11:46You killed it.
11:48Thank you, sister.
11:49And I got the reference at the finale, by the way.
11:51You got it?
11:51Thank you!
11:53Baby!
11:53That is my sister!
11:55Come on, Queen B.
11:56We'd be mean girls together.
11:58We do.
11:58But we'd be nice too.
11:59No, I'm supposed to be the girl.
11:59You're supposed to be the nice one.
12:01Mmm.
12:03I can't wait to bully Ginger.
12:06Tomorrow.
12:07What is the weirdest thing you've cried over?
12:09I haven't cried in a really long time.
12:11That's good!
12:12Or is that bad?
12:13I think it might be bad.
12:14I think it is.
12:15I mean, I cried during commercials, but I don't think that's weird.
12:19I...
12:19Why?
12:20What commercial?
12:21There's this Christmas commercial where there is an older lady who lives next door to this
12:27couple.
12:27And I think what they do is they decorate her apartment with like a Christmas tree and they
12:32bring her presents.
12:33And it was like a 30 second spot and I cry every single time.
12:37You cry every single time?
12:38They do a 30 second spot?
12:39No, that they...
12:40That I see that specific type of commercial.
12:42That specific type of commercial?
12:44Not that commercial?
12:46I think they play that commercial every...
12:48You're doing...
12:49You know what you're doing to me?
12:51What?
12:51I'm asking questions.
12:52I'm allowed.
12:52It's what I was doing to you.
12:53You told me.
12:54You said roll the tape back.
12:56No, no, no.
12:56I'm just asking questions.
12:57Oh, okay.
12:58So I'm just...
12:59I'm a quizzifying.
13:00Since I feel like I've caught you in a lie, I'm going to go ahead and say it's a false
13:06flag for you, girl.
13:07It's a false red flag.
13:09You don't know the commercial I'm talking about?
13:10No, because it don't exist.
13:11It does exist.
13:12It doesn't exist.
13:13It's true.
13:13I don't...
13:14No, the way you worded that.
13:15It's true.
13:15No, sister.
13:16I'll go ahead and give it to you and still win, bitch.
13:20Actually, I don't want no mercy point.
13:22I'm going to allow it to happen.
13:23I'm going to let it go, because you know what I am?
13:25Kind.
13:26Okay.
13:27Thanks.
13:27I have waited for this moment my entire life, and I am so grateful that we got to play
13:35Lie vs. Lie together here at Entertainment Weekly.
13:39And I am so grateful that I got to be here in this moment of you winning something on camera.
13:46I think that's a lie.
13:48I think that's a lie.
13:50I love you though.
13:52I love you too.
13:52I love you.
13:53Maybe this is going to be the weirdest thing I cry over.
13:55Yeah.
13:56Oh, now I'm the weirdest thing.
13:57Okay, great.
13:58So it is a lie.
13:59No.
14:00Who is it?
14:02What is it?
14:04Ah.
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