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Mumbai, Maharashtra: During an exclusive interview with actress Madhoo, where she opened up about her upcoming Hindi film ‘Governor’ and Malayalam film ‘Chinaa Chinaa Aasai’. Then, she reflected on her journey from the 1990s to the present and she discussed the evolving roles available to actresses, memories of ‘Phool Aur Kaante’, working with stars like Ajay Devgn, Akshay Kumar, Suniel Shetty, Shah Rukh Khan and Govinda and the challenges women faced in Bollywood during the 90s. She also shared insights on today’s film industry, PR culture, beauty standards, paparazzi obsession, her personal life, marriage, family, and her daughter’s upcoming wedding, while offering heartfelt thoughts on cousin Hema Malini’s strength and dignity amid personal loss.
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00:00:00Welcome to INS Madhu ji. First of all, congratulations. Two projects are getting released in one week.
00:00:08So, you know, we got to know that it is happening in your career for the first time.
00:00:14In this week, you have two projects.
00:00:16It's very special because nowadays many things are released on different platforms.
00:00:21Netflix, Amazon, etc. But it's a theatre release.
00:00:24And I don't know why. I love Netflix, I love Amazon.
00:00:28And I also know that people appreciate Netflix, Amazon, etc.
00:00:34I also love to see the theatre and I like to see it.
00:00:38But despite that, my film will release in the theatre and my name will be on the silver screen.
00:00:46I feel very happy, proud and humble.
00:00:52And the first film, which is called Gawana, it's a Hindi film.
00:00:58It's with Manoj Bajpayee.
00:01:04And the second one is called Chinna Chinna Aase.
00:01:08It's a Malayalam Tamil bilingual.
00:01:10And that's also a theatre release.
00:01:12Now, both are very special.
00:01:13Before I tell you, Chinna Chinna Aase, why does it feel special for me?
00:01:16Because it's taken from the song from my most remembered, loved film, Roja.
00:01:22And the song in Tamil, Chinna Chinna Aase.
00:01:26That is, it's become like an anthem.
00:01:30School in school, there are a lot of plays, etc.
00:01:33So, this film's title is taken from me, Chinna Chinna Aase, and I'm playing a title role.
00:01:39It's very special for me.
00:01:41Because, you know, the streaming platform for the content, there are different calculations, economic calculations.
00:01:52You know, box office numbers, I don't know how it calculates.
00:01:58It's all about the popularity, the star status, and so many other things.
00:02:04And it's all about box office numbers.
00:02:07So, aise time pe, jab mujhe lagta hai, that I may not hold that power to bring people into the
00:02:15theatre.
00:02:15There are people who believe in me, my character, my talent, my potential, and they believe in me.
00:02:24They've invested this money, and it's a theatre release.
00:02:27So, I feel, matlab, I believe in me, kar pa rhi ho, yeh mujhe a gift from the universe lagta
00:02:32hai.
00:02:33Because it's not just a, aisa nahi hai ke mein yeh film mein kaam kar rhi ho, it's a title
00:02:37role.
00:02:37I'm playing the important role.
00:02:40Wo soch ke, I feel very happy.
00:02:41That is on 18th of June.
00:02:44My film, Governor, is releasing on 12th of June.
00:02:47That is with Manoj Bacchpayee.
00:02:49Our own Bhiku Matre.
00:02:51And I have a lot of career followed by his career.
00:02:55I've seen a film from his first film.
00:02:57I've seen a film from his first film.
00:02:57Satyaat se leke, Aaj tak, Inspector Jhande.
00:03:00And we all agree on that he's a great actor.
00:03:06And he's so subtle, he's just the actor and he's amazing.
00:03:13And there was a time when I once thought, you know, ne mujhe kisi DDK program ke liye interview bhi
00:03:18kiya tha.
00:03:20Um, aur meinne socha tha, kahi bar meinne socha, jab mein unka dekhti ho, kohi role ya film.
00:03:25Meinne socha ki, inke saath kaam karne mein kitna maza aega.
00:03:28But it was just a thought.
00:03:30Jab meinne ye film sign ki, aasa lagta hai, ke dreams come true.
00:03:34Jo ham, sach mein, wo, jo, Shahrukh ji ki jo line hai.
00:03:38Agar dil se koji cheez, uh, I don't know how it goes.
00:03:41Ke puri kainat ek ho jati hai, usse fulfill karne mein.
00:03:44Something like that.
00:03:45Because I really wanted to work with Manoj Bacchpayee.
00:03:48And I'm doing this film.
00:03:49I'm playing his wife.
00:03:50And it's a very important film at this time.
00:03:54Jabke hum sab jante hai ke India konse state pe hai.
00:03:58Economically, jo crisis, jo crunch situation, vagaera jo ho raha hai.
00:04:02I don't very, um, you know, I'm not very much into all this.
00:04:08But I do know that India is going through a funny kind of a situation.
00:04:13Aur is time pe ye, is film ka release ho na is just perfectly timed.
00:04:17Kiunki ye 1990s mein jo economic crisis India ka hua tha.
00:04:22Us time pe ek ordinary officer ne, bureaucrat ne, governor ne.
00:04:27Jaise is chiz ko deal kea tha.
00:04:29It's all about that.
00:04:30We all talk about the big known heroes.
00:04:33But what about the simple people, the bureaucrats, the governors, the officers,
00:04:37jinke baare mein baut zyada hum nahi jante, jinke baare mein likha nahi jata.
00:04:41Par somebody like that is making a huge difference in our country.
00:04:46So this is a story about our unsung hero kind of a thing.
00:04:49And it is played by Manoj Bajpayee.
00:04:51It's an extremely expected film.
00:04:54Baut expectations hai is film mein.
00:04:56Because it is Manoj Bajpayee.
00:04:58It is a, and a very well directed, well made film.
00:05:01So these two films I'm a part of.
00:05:03Aur, funny thing about this film is, yeh donoh film jab mere paas aai thi.
00:05:07Maneh sabse pahle no kaaha tha.
00:05:10Manoj ji ke is film ke liye bhi, Maneh sabse pahle no hii kaaha tha.
00:05:14Even though I wanted to always work with him.
00:05:16And can you believe it?
00:05:17Kyunki, unho ne mucze kaaha tha, ke aapke siref 5 din lagenghe.
00:05:21To maineh suncha, agar 5 din ka role hai, to baut zyada nhi hooga.
00:05:25Baut important nhi hooga.
00:05:26To maineh suncha, agar 4-5 din ka, agar role hooga, to kya ho saktah hai.
00:05:43Par kisii tarah se, Mukesh Shabra ji ne mujhe convince kar liya.
00:05:47Chinmay ji, jo ki is film ke director hai, unho ne mujhe story sunai.
00:05:51Mere character ka, unho ne importance mujhe dikhaya.
00:05:56And pehle hi din se mujhe laga ke, yeh mera sabse sahih decision ho gaya in the end.
00:06:02And I just love it.
00:06:04So these are two films.
00:06:06One is a Hindi release, which is very special.
00:06:09Hindi theater release, which is very special.
00:06:12And another one is Chinna Chinna Aase.
00:06:15It's like, it's just for me very special because it is connected with Roja.
00:06:32And this is something that is considered to be a very good trend in the last five years.
00:06:39A lot of 90s actresses who have ruled the era of 90s, they are coming back with great films, great
00:06:47projects, great work.
00:06:49And they are not playing that typical mother, hero ki mother wala role or heroine ki mother wala role.
00:06:55They are playing very substantial role in all the projects or be it web series or films.
00:07:02You as, you know, as such a big actress of 90s, how do you see this entire thing and aapne,
00:07:11aapne kaam ke alawa.
00:07:13Aapko 90s ki jitni aapke kaunter part hai, woh jab wapas hai.
00:07:17Mnolab koon sa kaam sabse achha laga hai.
00:07:18Sabse pahle to me ye kaungi, ye hai, humare liye baut hi achhi cheez hoi hai, industry mein ki, you
00:07:27know, pahle mujhe bhi aise lagta tha tha,
00:07:29ke agar aap heroine nahi ho, to aap bhabi ka rool kerne lag jauge, ya maa ka rool.
00:07:33To woh cliche jaisa tha, ke mein hero ki maa hoon, ya bhabi hoon, ya something like that.
00:07:39And I never wanted to just be that.
00:07:40But now, even if I am playing a hero's mother, because I have played hero or heroine's mother in many
00:07:47of my films now,
00:07:49mujhe aise nahi lagta ki, woh woh wale hero ki maa ka rool hai.
00:07:52There is a lot of power in all the characters, which is amazing.
00:07:56So there is a shift in filmmaking.
00:07:58Every character is important.
00:08:00And aaj aisa hai ki, even the main leads are only characters.
00:08:05Well, of course, there are those hero and the typical heroines.
00:08:08But even hero and heroines today is in film, it's all content based.
00:08:12Even they are playing strong characters.
00:08:14So it's a very good shift which has happened in our cinema.
00:08:19Secondly, with the streaming platforms, with so much content that is being made,
00:08:27everybody wants, it's a shift in the audience.
00:08:30Hum wohi banaate hai, picture hai wohi bante hai, jo audience dekhna chaati hai.
00:08:33So the fact is, the audience is really ready to see all kinds of movies.
00:08:39So in Chinna Chinna Aase, it's actually a story of elderly romance.
00:08:44A 60 plus something is, and me, 50 plus something, it's a kind of a tender love story.
00:08:50So, woh cliche se ke romance, sirf young logo mein hoti hai,
00:08:54aur peedhoon ke irdh-girdh ghoomte huye, gana gaate huye nahi.
00:08:58Woha se nikal kar bhi feelings hoti hai, romance hoti hai, relationships hoti hai.
00:09:03Toh picture hai, aaj kal, is line pe bannne lag gahi hai.
00:09:06Which is amazing.
00:09:07Doosri baat ye hai ki, nobody has to look a certain type.
00:09:12Because, pehle is cheez ka dar tha,
00:09:14ke agar aap ek 20 year old, jaisse fresh nihi lagte hai,
00:09:18toh aapko main roles nahi mil sakti hai.
00:09:20Par, aaj main roles, us cheez pe nahi depend karti.
00:09:23And that is amazing.
00:09:25The audience is accepting it,
00:09:27and the actors are accepting it.
00:09:29Toh, mehra bhi jo role hai,
00:09:31of course, governor mein, it's a cameo,
00:09:33I'm playing Manojji's wife,
00:09:34but it's a character, it's a wife of a governor,
00:09:38jo ek south indian, middle class ki lady hai.
00:09:43So, it's a character,
00:09:44even though it's a wife of the main lead or whatever.
00:09:46So, that's a shift.
00:09:48I don't have to look glamorous to be the main lead.
00:09:51I don't have to, you know,
00:09:53wo jo bhi make-up laga kar,
00:09:55jaisse ki mere chinna chinna aase movie mein,
00:09:56bilkuli there is no make-up,
00:09:58but I am the heroine of the film.
00:10:00So, that shift is amazing.
00:10:02Aur, aapne jo kaha mere contemporary mein,
00:10:04kis ke kaam mujhe achhe lagta hai.
00:10:07I think Madhuri is ruling.
00:10:09Mein unko har kisim ke role mein dekhti hoon.
00:10:12Unka jo Mrs. Deshpande,
00:10:14jo psycho kind of her thing,
00:10:16she's exploring,
00:10:18she's acting,
00:10:19she's performing.
00:10:21Abhi unka,
00:10:22unki ek film release hoi hai,
00:10:24Ma Ben.
00:10:25You know,
00:10:26so, the title itself is very exciting,
00:10:28Ma Ben and all that.
00:10:30I haven't seen it yet,
00:10:32but jo mein ne dekha,
00:10:33trailer jo mein ne dekha,
00:10:34mujhe baud exciting laga.
00:10:35It looks like a comedy
00:10:36and she is doing comedy,
00:10:38she's doing psycho,
00:10:41she's,
00:10:42toh mujhe jo wo kar rahi,
00:10:43baud achha lagra hai.
00:10:44And also,
00:10:45there are people like Shilpa,
00:10:47then Manisha did Hira Mandi,
00:10:50then we have Raveena
00:10:52who is doing a lot of work
00:10:53and then we have
00:10:54aaj kal Karishma ka bhi kuch release hua hai.
00:10:57So, everybody is out there,
00:10:59everybody is,
00:10:59and everybody has work.
00:11:01Because of today's,
00:11:03you know,
00:11:03the way it is,
00:11:04everyone is doing
00:11:05and everyone is doing
00:11:06different stuff.
00:11:08You know,
00:11:09toh sab kar rahe hai,
00:11:10mein bhi kar rahe hi hoon,
00:11:11baut achha lagra hai.
00:11:13Ki,
00:11:13agar hum thik lagta hai,
00:11:14healthy lagra hai,
00:11:15toh baut achhi baat hai.
00:11:16But role karne ke liye,
00:11:17aap apni age lag sakte ho.
00:11:20Abhi Madhuri is playing
00:11:21a mother of a very young lady.
00:11:23So, you can be your age.
00:11:25You don't have to look young
00:11:27to be an actor.
00:11:29You don't have to be 20 years old.
00:11:31You can be 50,
00:11:32you can be 60.
00:11:33Neena Gupta ji is doing amazing work.
00:11:36She is doing dadi.
00:11:38She is doing modern business woman.
00:11:40She is an inspiration to me.
00:11:42Because she is so amazing.
00:11:45She is so glamorous.
00:11:46But she is not trying
00:11:48to look like a 25 year old.
00:11:50How is it like in 90s?
00:11:52We used to like,
00:11:54when we read about 90s also,
00:11:57then there are so many news of,
00:11:59you know,
00:11:59catfights between the actresses.
00:12:02And, you know,
00:12:03the cold war kind of thing
00:12:04that used to,
00:12:05you know,
00:12:06get published in newspaper.
00:12:08The news that there is cold war
00:12:09between this, that.
00:12:11How was it,
00:12:12how was the news
00:12:15that used to float in 90s
00:12:45and you know,
00:12:46raps because I come from a belief system that no one should know someone outside,
00:12:51no one should give an interview in the press, no one should not even know that these two
00:12:59individual feelings are happening.
00:13:01A little competition, insecurities, this is very natural, this is happening.
00:13:09Even if I felt it, I kept it under raps and I only like to feel that I did it
00:13:16well.
00:13:17I know I did it well.
00:13:18I worked with Ramya, I worked with Shilpa, I worked with Urmila.
00:13:25I have great relationships with all of them.
00:13:28We all laugh and we are still friends.
00:13:31And if there are any feelings that I do, it went away right then.
00:13:37I never gave into catfights and I never talked about it.
00:13:41But things were written about you also.
00:13:45So what did I write about it? I don't know.
00:13:49You know, people write.
00:13:51I wrote that time and I have done something.
00:13:53But it's all gone.
00:13:55You know, all of the people have grown up and I have grown up.
00:13:59So actually, honest to God, I don't remember all of those things.
00:14:02I don't remember all of those things.
00:14:03What was that time?
00:14:04And what was that time?
00:14:05Actually, I am very different.
00:14:07I don't believe in competing.
00:14:10I would like to say that everyone are happy.
00:14:12Like I said, my contemporary actors are doing amazing work.
00:14:16There are very few actresses who, you know, get such massive success in their like debut film.
00:14:23And you are like one of them.
00:14:26Very less actress.
00:14:27Because even if we see Journey of Madhuri,
00:14:31you know,
00:14:32it didn't work so well.
00:14:34And then she became a star with Teza.
00:14:37But you became star, superstar with your first film itself.
00:14:41I think before that was Tamil film.
00:14:44Full or content.
00:14:44Same time.
00:14:46So how was it like,
00:14:47How did you process the entire thing when the film released?
00:14:51And then when you go outside,
00:14:52how was the entire thing?
00:14:56You know, more and more I feel that there is a hand of Divine.
00:15:01And there is,
00:15:02I don't know what to say for it.
00:15:04God, Divine, Universe,
00:15:07But I really am surprised at my journey.
00:15:11Because where did I come from?
00:15:12Where did I come from?
00:15:13How did I come from?
00:15:14How did I come from?
00:15:14How did I come from?
00:15:14When I came from Phool & Kante.
00:15:15It came after one rejection.
00:15:17It came after one very difficult experience.
00:15:21It came after one very difficult experience.
00:15:21The first time I had already chosen.
00:15:22Then on that film,
00:15:23I left the film.
00:15:24And after that,
00:15:25I improved myself as an actor.
00:15:28Then Phool & Kante came.
00:15:30And when I accepted Phool & Kante
00:15:32and I did it,
00:15:33I did not calculate that
00:15:35that this will become a huge film.
00:15:37His hero and superstar is a hero.
00:15:39So this will be my launch.
00:15:41Nothing like that.
00:15:42I did that film,
00:15:43that's why I did that.
00:15:44because my father gave me an ultimatum at that time,
00:15:47that you have finished college,
00:15:50everything has happened, you are sitting at home,
00:15:52or you will work or I will marry you.
00:15:54So I tried to become an aerosteist,
00:15:58to become something something,
00:16:00you know, nothing worked out.
00:16:03And when my phone called Kuku Koli Ji,
00:16:08without thinking, without understanding,
00:16:10without asking, I said yes.
00:16:12And yes, I did,
00:16:13because at least now I will work,
00:16:15so my father will be happy.
00:16:17You know, I didn't know this film,
00:16:21and this film was released in a long time,
00:16:24and I didn't feel that this film will be hit.
00:16:27I didn't feel that this film will be hit.
00:16:30I was afraid, as a young person,
00:16:33that many people will criticize me,
00:16:36I don't know if it was false.
00:16:37I was hiding in my house 3 days,
00:16:40and when this film was released,
00:16:42I was hiding.
00:16:43Because I didn't want to face the world.
00:16:45I thought,
00:16:46now what will happen?
00:16:47Now, slowly,
00:16:47slowly,
00:16:48when it was hit,
00:16:50you know,
00:16:51when the news came back,
00:16:52my uncle called me,
00:16:54and said,
00:16:54you know,
00:16:55where are you?
00:16:55Where are you?
00:16:56Where are you?
00:16:56Where are you?
00:16:57Where are you?
00:16:58Where are you?
00:16:59Then I came out.
00:17:00So,
00:17:01I have nothing to do with it.
00:17:05It just happened.
00:17:07Now,
00:17:07you can see,
00:17:08I have nothing to do with it.
00:17:09slowly,
00:17:09in those 4 years,
00:17:11all my films were hit.
00:17:13Kamil,
00:17:14Aragun,
00:17:15Roja,
00:17:16Yodha,
00:17:16Alari Priyadu,
00:17:17Anya,
00:17:18all these were super hits.
00:17:20Even today,
00:17:22people are talking about those films.
00:17:24And,
00:17:24this was all made in the first 4 years.
00:17:26I thought,
00:17:27I have arrived.
00:17:29Ok,
00:17:30I have worked.
00:17:31Then,
00:17:32the frustration,
00:17:32even after that,
00:17:34started happening.
00:17:35I felt like,
00:17:37you know,
00:17:38I should do better roles.
00:17:39Then,
00:17:39I saw,
00:17:40I didn't get so many good roles.
00:17:42Action films were made.
00:17:43I didn't do so much.
00:17:45I felt frustrated.
00:17:47I mean,
00:17:48just see the trajectory.
00:17:49But,
00:17:49I became a star without knowing.
00:17:51Just in 4 years,
00:17:53everywhere I went.
00:17:54In fact,
00:17:55I used to be hailed as a lucky mascot.
00:17:57Toh,
00:17:58Lohg,
00:17:58Mujhe,
00:17:59South Me,
00:18:01Special Guest,
00:18:03Guest Appearances Me,
00:18:04Bhi,
00:18:05Lohg,
00:18:05Mujhe,
00:18:05Lete,
00:18:05They thought,
00:18:07If I was in the movie,
00:18:08The movie will become a hit.
00:18:10This was how I,
00:18:11It came to me.
00:18:12So,
00:18:12This is pure destiny.
00:18:14Pure luck.
00:18:15Pure blessing.
00:18:17And,
00:18:20In fact,
00:18:21Us Vakt,
00:18:21Grooming Bhi,
00:18:22Nih,
00:18:22Hota,
00:18:31Grooming Bhi,
00:18:32X,
00:18:32Y,
00:18:33Z,
00:18:33And,
00:18:35X,
00:18:35Y,
00:18:35Z,
00:18:36Makeup.
00:18:36So much.
00:18:37You know,
00:18:38When I came,
00:18:39In every film,
00:18:40I was better.
00:18:41So,
00:18:41My career,
00:18:42Nine,
00:18:43Ten years,
00:18:44Ninety,
00:18:45Ninety,
00:18:46Ninety,
00:18:46Ninety,
00:18:46Ninety,
00:18:46Ninety,
00:18:46Ninety,
00:19:08Ninety,
00:19:12Ninety,
00:19:13In every movie,
00:19:14I learnt.
00:19:15That was what happened.
00:19:16Now,
00:19:16To just see,
00:19:17My second innings,
00:19:18So to speak.
00:19:20Ab ye,
00:19:21Abni shuru ho re,
00:19:22Na.
00:19:22Mein toho,
00:19:242012 se kam kar re hon.
00:19:26Love you Mr, Kalakar,
00:19:27And tell me, Yo khuda,
00:19:29I think happened in 2012,
00:19:32And,
00:19:32We are in 2026.
00:19:34Till now I have not given a big hit.
00:19:36but I am still working
00:19:37but this is also very special
00:19:40because this has made me grow
00:19:42as a human being
00:19:44it has taught me humility
00:19:46and it has taught me my skill
00:19:48I have practiced more
00:19:50I work
00:19:51back in the 90s I never worked on my role
00:19:54I was very instinctive
00:19:56today I do put in my effort
00:19:58I do think about my role
00:20:00I am a mature person
00:20:01I was in my concentration in parties
00:20:09today when I have shooting
00:20:11I don't party
00:20:12I don't party the day before
00:20:14I don't party the day after
00:20:15the days I work
00:20:17so as a person
00:20:19I have evolved, I have changed
00:20:21it's the same me and same career
00:20:24but different phases of my career
00:20:25and I love both the phases
00:20:27I am grateful for the immediate success
00:20:30and I am also grateful
00:20:32for delayed gratification
00:20:34her delayed gratification
00:20:36I am more grateful
00:20:38I am more humble
00:20:39you said that
00:20:41you got rejected in one film
00:20:44which was that
00:20:45and who was signed later
00:20:47I have replaced Kimi Ji
00:20:50Kimi Kaatkar
00:20:51in that film
00:20:52and I don't remember the name of the film
00:20:54I don't know whether it had a title
00:20:58Asif Sheikh was my co-star
00:20:59and I was rejected from that first film
00:21:02and I don't know if I was sad
00:21:06because at that time
00:21:07all the emotion I remember is anger
00:21:17I would say
00:21:18my career took off
00:21:20کیونکہ پھول اور کانٹے میں
00:21:21جب میری entry ہوئی
00:21:22people ask me
00:21:24کہ آپ نے
00:21:24آجے جی کے ساتھ
00:21:25ڈیبیو کیا
00:21:26تو آپ کا
00:21:27راپو کیا تھا
00:21:28اس فلم میں
00:21:28آپ نے کیا کیا
00:21:30آپ کی کیا
00:21:30relationship تھی
00:21:31میں یہ کہوں گی
00:21:33where I come from
00:21:34اس rejection کے بعد سے
00:21:35جب میں نکل کے آئی
00:21:37یہ پروف کرنا تھا مجھے
00:21:39کہ میں کر کے دکھاؤں گی
00:21:41so I came with a funny
00:21:42kind of that
00:21:43aggression and fire
00:21:44تو پھول اور کانٹے میں
00:21:46میں کسی کے ساتھ
00:21:47relationship نہیں بنا رہے تھی
00:21:49میں صرف یہ کرنا چاہ رہے تھی
00:21:51I was acting
00:21:52I was doing
00:21:52I was
00:21:53so that was how I started off
00:21:55It was Ajay Nguyen's first film
00:21:57and both of you made debut
00:21:59with that film
00:22:00Yes
00:22:00So and I have heard a lot of story
00:22:02in one of the interview
00:22:03Ajay was saying
00:22:05somebody
00:22:05that because you spoke
00:22:07about Lamhe
00:22:07getting released
00:22:08on the same day
00:22:09same day
00:22:10and Anil Kapoor
00:22:11met Ajay
00:22:13somewhere
00:22:13and he said
00:22:14you know
00:22:15a producer کو
00:22:16بولو کی
00:22:17date change
00:22:17کر دے
00:22:18something like that
00:22:19یہ آپ کو
00:22:19کچھ
00:22:20اسی کہا نہیں پتا ہے
00:22:20یہ ان کے ساتھ
00:22:22ہوا ہوگا
00:22:22Anil جی
00:22:23and Ajay
00:22:23کے ساتھ
00:22:24میرے ساتھ
00:22:25یہ ہوا
00:22:26میں
00:22:27شری جی
00:22:27کی سب سے
00:22:28بڑی فین
00:22:28تھی
00:22:29اور ہوں
00:22:29مجھے لگتا ہے
00:22:31کہ
00:22:31شری دیوی
00:22:32جیسے
00:22:32کوئی
00:22:32ایکٹر
00:22:33نہیں ہے
00:22:33and I have
00:22:35watched all
00:22:35her films
00:22:36her Tamil films
00:22:37her Hindi debut
00:22:38Himmatwala
00:22:39and Chandni
00:22:42Chalbaz
00:22:43I am the biggest
00:22:44fan
00:22:45اور ان کے
00:22:46film
00:22:46لمحے
00:22:46release
00:22:47ہو رہی
00:22:47تھی
00:22:48and
00:22:50ان کے ساتھ
00:22:51میری
00:22:51film
00:22:51and also
00:22:52I had an
00:22:53experience
00:22:53with her
00:22:54she was
00:22:54also
00:22:55rehearsing
00:22:55for some
00:22:56song
00:22:56in
00:22:58Satyam
00:22:58dance hall
00:22:59and Saroj
00:23:00ji
00:23:00also rehearsed
00:23:01with me
00:23:01in Satyam
00:23:02dance hall
00:23:03for
00:23:04پھول
00:23:04اور کانتے
00:23:04song
00:23:05and I
00:23:05had a
00:23:05chance
00:23:05to meet
00:23:06Shree
00:23:06ji
00:23:06for the
00:23:06first
00:23:07time
00:23:07and
00:23:08Saroj
00:23:09ji
00:23:09introduced
00:23:09me
00:23:10کہ
00:23:10this is
00:23:10Madhu
00:23:11and
00:23:12her
00:23:13first
00:23:13film
00:23:14she's
00:23:14debut
00:23:14this is
00:23:15her debut
00:23:16and we
00:23:16are rehearsing
00:23:16and Shree
00:23:17ji went
00:23:17hmm
00:23:18and she
00:23:19that
00:23:19happened
00:23:19that
00:23:20exchange
00:23:20happened
00:23:21and next
00:23:21thing
00:23:22you know
00:23:22Lamhe
00:23:22is releasing
00:23:23and
00:23:23Phrul
00:23:23or
00:23:24Kante
00:23:24is
00:23:24releasing
00:23:24I
00:23:25thought
00:23:25100%
00:23:27I was
00:23:30in a
00:23:30hiding
00:23:31and
00:23:33the
00:23:34movie
00:23:34was
00:23:34releasing
00:23:35Yash
00:23:35Chopra's
00:23:36film
00:23:36apart
00:23:37from
00:23:37the
00:23:38actors
00:23:38which
00:23:39is
00:23:39Anil
00:23:39Kapoor
00:23:39and Shree
00:23:40Devi
00:23:40it's
00:23:40a
00:23:40yes
00:23:41Chopra
00:23:41film
00:23:42yes
00:23:42ji
00:23:42only
00:23:43made
00:23:43most
00:23:44beautiful
00:23:44films
00:23:45so
00:23:45I
00:23:46thought
00:23:46our
00:23:46film
00:23:47had
00:23:47no
00:23:47chance
00:23:49but
00:23:50no
00:23:50that
00:23:51didn't
00:23:51happen
00:23:51our
00:23:52film
00:23:53had
00:23:53all
00:23:53the
00:23:53chance
00:23:54also
00:23:55you
00:23:56know
00:23:57you
00:23:57said
00:23:59that
00:24:01choreography
00:24:02you
00:24:02know
00:24:03you
00:24:04met
00:24:04Shree
00:24:04Devi
00:24:05ji
00:24:05and
00:24:06Saroj
00:24:07Khan
00:24:07was
00:24:07doing
00:24:08the
00:24:08choreography
00:24:08I
00:24:09think
00:24:10she
00:24:10was
00:24:10on
00:24:11the
00:24:11top
00:24:11like
00:24:11Saroj
00:24:12was
00:24:12yeah
00:24:12so
00:24:13kai
00:24:15baar
00:24:15heroine
00:24:15ke
00:24:16you
00:24:16know
00:24:16dance
00:24:17ko bhi
00:24:18bada
00:24:18compare
00:24:18kaya
00:24:18jana
00:24:18tha
00:24:19jitna
00:24:19mujhe
00:24:19yaad
00:24:19hai
00:24:19ki
00:24:20this
00:24:20actress
00:24:20is
00:24:20a
00:24:21better
00:24:21dancer
00:24:21because
00:24:22dance
00:24:23and
00:24:23songs
00:24:23used
00:24:24to be
00:24:24like
00:24:24big
00:24:25right
00:24:25yes
00:24:25yes
00:24:26what
00:24:26feedback
00:24:27did
00:24:27you
00:24:27get
00:24:27about
00:24:28your
00:24:28dance
00:24:28about
00:24:29your
00:24:29like
00:24:30whole
00:24:30art
00:24:31kyunki
00:24:31phool
00:24:32or
00:24:32kate
00:24:32mein
00:24:33mujhe
00:24:33hotna
00:24:34yade
00:24:34me
00:24:34us
00:24:34ke
00:24:34aage
00:24:34ki
00:24:35kai
00:24:35fans
00:24:35me
00:24:35aap
00:24:35ke
00:24:35ba
00:24:35ba
00:24:36ba
00:24:36saare
00:24:36danse
00:24:37numbers
00:24:38the
00:24:38this
00:24:39manna
00:24:39baut
00:24:41darr
00:24:42darr ke
00:24:42sharma
00:24:43ke
00:24:43main
00:24:43industry
00:24:44mein
00:24:44aai
00:24:44right
00:24:45even
00:24:45do
00:24:45meinne
00:24:45kaha
00:24:46ki
00:24:46main
00:24:46fire
00:24:47leke
00:24:47aai
00:24:47thi
00:24:47to
00:24:48I
00:24:49think
00:24:49for
00:24:50some
00:24:50reason
00:24:51I
00:24:52had
00:24:52a
00:24:52little
00:24:52bit
00:24:53of
00:24:53a
00:24:53slouch
00:24:54I
00:24:54remember
00:24:55that
00:24:55when
00:24:55I
00:24:55was
00:24:56doing
00:24:56a
00:24:56song
00:24:56in
00:24:57phool
00:24:57or
00:24:57kante
00:24:57maybe
00:24:58my
00:24:58shoulder
00:24:58was
00:24:59a
00:24:59little
00:24:59bit
00:24:59of
00:24:59a
00:24:59slouch
00:25:00and
00:25:01I
00:25:01remember
00:25:01Saroj
00:25:02was
00:25:02on
00:25:03mic
00:25:03on
00:25:03some
00:25:04rooftop
00:25:04wahan
00:25:05se
00:25:05chila
00:25:05rehi
00:25:05thi
00:25:05back
00:25:06straight
00:25:08back
00:25:09straight
00:25:09karke
00:25:10unhoon
00:25:10ne
00:25:10chila
00:25:11aai
00:25:11jab
00:25:11nee
00:25:11che
00:25:11aai
00:25:12mo
00:25:12unho
00:25:12ne
00:25:13kaha
00:25:13walk
00:25:14tall
00:25:14stand
00:25:15straight
00:25:16I
00:25:17never
00:25:17forgot
00:25:17that
00:25:19ek
00:25:19jhatke
00:25:20mein
00:25:20unho
00:25:20ne
00:25:20mera
00:25:21poster
00:25:21siddha
00:25:21kar
00:25:22diya
00:25:22something
00:25:22struck
00:25:23in
00:25:23me
00:25:23she
00:25:24said
00:25:24if
00:25:24you
00:25:24want
00:25:24to
00:25:25be
00:25:25a
00:25:25dancer
00:25:25if
00:25:25you
00:25:26want
00:25:26to
00:25:26be
00:25:26an
00:25:26actor
00:25:26keep
00:25:27your
00:25:27back
00:25:28straight
00:25:28and
00:25:29I
00:25:29never
00:25:29slouched
00:25:30after
00:25:30that
00:25:31so
00:25:32that
00:25:32is
00:25:32what
00:25:32I
00:25:33remember
00:25:33what
00:25:34Saroj
00:25:34gave
00:25:34me
00:25:35and
00:25:35she
00:25:36was
00:25:36gentle
00:25:37with
00:25:37me
00:25:37and
00:25:37Ajay
00:25:38both
00:25:39of
00:25:39us
00:25:39were
00:25:39new
00:25:40and
00:25:41she
00:25:41did
00:25:41not
00:25:41compare
00:25:42she
00:25:42did
00:25:42not
00:25:43make
00:25:43us
00:25:43feel
00:25:43bad
00:25:44she
00:25:44changed
00:25:45the
00:25:51heard
00:25:51that
00:25:51it
00:25:53was
00:25:53earlier
00:25:53Akshay
00:25:54Kumar
00:25:54in
00:25:54that
00:25:54film
00:25:55or
00:25:55probably
00:25:55he
00:25:55auditioned
00:25:56for
00:25:56that
00:25:56I
00:25:58don't
00:25:58know
00:25:59that
00:25:59I
00:25:59never
00:25:59heard
00:26:00that
00:26:01also
00:26:01one
00:26:02very
00:26:02important
00:26:02thing
00:26:03you
00:26:03said
00:26:03that
00:26:03these
00:26:03days
00:26:04actresses
00:26:04come
00:26:05very
00:26:05prepared
00:26:06and
00:26:06they
00:26:07have
00:26:07their
00:26:07entire
00:26:08team
00:26:08with
00:26:09them
00:26:09their
00:26:10dress
00:26:10makeup
00:26:11styling
00:26:12and
00:26:13also
00:26:14we
00:26:15know
00:26:15it
00:26:15very
00:26:16well
00:26:16that
00:26:16there
00:26:17are
00:26:17a lot
00:26:18of
00:26:18beauty
00:26:18techniques
00:26:19I
00:26:19will
00:26:19not
00:26:19say
00:26:20that
00:26:20it
00:26:20surgery
00:26:20but
00:26:21there
00:26:21are
00:26:21lot
00:26:21of
00:26:21beauty
00:26:22techniques
00:26:22that
00:26:23is
00:26:23used
00:26:23to
00:26:24probably
00:26:24bring
00:26:25a
00:26:26difference
00:26:26in
00:26:26their
00:26:26features
00:26:27or
00:26:27in
00:26:27their
00:26:28look
00:26:28how
00:26:29do
00:26:29you
00:26:29see
00:26:30the
00:26:30entire
00:26:30thing
00:26:30do
00:26:31you
00:26:31think
00:26:31that
00:26:31innocence
00:26:32is
00:26:32missing
00:26:32because
00:26:33in
00:26:3390s
00:26:33even
00:26:34though
00:26:34there
00:26:35are
00:26:35few
00:26:35actresses
00:26:35who
00:26:36were
00:26:36not
00:26:36that
00:26:36very
00:26:36conventional
00:26:38you
00:26:39know
00:26:39beautiful
00:26:40indel
00:26:40lady
00:26:40but
00:26:41still
00:26:41they
00:26:41looked
00:26:41very
00:26:42good
00:26:42because
00:26:42they
00:26:43had
00:26:43that
00:26:43innocence
00:26:43in
00:26:44their
00:26:44face
00:26:44and
00:26:45something
00:26:45which
00:26:46was
00:26:52that
00:26:54saying
00:26:55that
00:26:55success
00:26:56makes
00:26:56everyone
00:26:57look
00:26:57beautiful
00:26:57and
00:26:59so
00:26:59obviously
00:27:00success
00:27:00did not
00:27:01depend
00:27:01on your
00:27:02nose
00:27:02or your
00:27:02mouth
00:27:03or your
00:27:03face
00:27:03or your
00:27:04hair
00:27:04you
00:27:05know
00:27:05there
00:27:05was
00:27:05something
00:27:06you
00:27:06became
00:27:07successful
00:27:07and
00:27:08then
00:27:08suddenly
00:27:09that
00:27:09not a
00:27:10pretty
00:27:10face
00:27:11started
00:27:11looking
00:27:11very
00:27:12pretty
00:27:12to
00:27:12your
00:27:12eyes
00:27:13because
00:27:14what
00:27:14did
00:27:14you
00:27:14see
00:27:14you
00:27:14saw
00:27:15the
00:27:15person's
00:27:15innocence
00:27:16you
00:27:16saw
00:27:16the
00:27:16person's
00:27:17talent
00:27:17you
00:27:17saw
00:27:17the
00:27:18person's
00:27:18whatever
00:27:18it
00:27:19was
00:27:19so
00:27:20there
00:27:21was
00:27:21something
00:27:21very
00:27:22natural
00:27:22nobody
00:27:23could
00:27:23do
00:27:24anything
00:27:24if
00:27:24you
00:27:24are
00:27:25born
00:27:25like
00:27:25this
00:27:25you
00:27:25yeah
00:27:26you
00:27:26can
00:27:26do
00:27:26little
00:27:26makeup
00:27:27you
00:27:27can
00:27:27do
00:27:27little
00:27:28hairstyle
00:27:28but
00:27:29whatever
00:27:29you
00:27:29were
00:27:29born
00:27:30with
00:27:30that
00:27:31is
00:27:31what
00:27:31everybody
00:27:32saw
00:27:33and
00:27:33so
00:27:34everyone
00:27:35looked
00:27:35different
00:27:36everybody's
00:27:37hair
00:27:37looked
00:27:37different
00:27:38body
00:27:38looked
00:27:38different
00:27:39everybody
00:27:39was
00:27:40different
00:27:41so
00:27:41there
00:27:42was
00:27:43something
00:27:43special
00:27:43about
00:27:44there
00:27:44was
00:27:45something
00:27:45different
00:27:45and
00:27:46special
00:27:46about
00:27:46everyone
00:27:47today
00:27:48I
00:27:49don't
00:27:49say
00:27:49it's
00:27:49a bad
00:27:50thing
00:27:50why
00:27:51not
00:27:51science
00:27:51has
00:27:52made
00:27:52such
00:27:52progress
00:27:52you
00:27:53can
00:27:53make
00:27:53yourself
00:27:54look
00:27:54nice
00:27:55everybody
00:27:55is
00:27:56looking
00:27:56nice
00:27:56your
00:27:56neighbors
00:27:57looking
00:27:57nice
00:27:57the
00:27:57girl
00:27:58in
00:27:58the
00:27:58gym
00:27:58is
00:27:58looking
00:27:58like
00:27:59a
00:27:59model
00:28:01she's
00:28:02looking
00:28:02better
00:28:02than
00:28:02all
00:28:02the
00:28:03actresses
00:28:03you
00:28:03see
00:28:03on
00:28:04screen
00:28:04which
00:28:05is
00:28:05a good
00:28:05thing
00:28:05you
00:28:06know
00:28:06why
00:28:06not
00:28:06world
00:28:07is
00:28:07moving
00:28:07so
00:28:08I
00:28:08don't
00:28:08believe
00:28:09in
00:28:09being
00:28:09stuck
00:28:11you
00:28:13have
00:28:13to
00:28:14accept
00:28:14you
00:28:14have
00:28:15to
00:28:15really
00:28:15accept
00:28:16yourself
00:28:16today
00:28:17if you
00:28:18don't
00:28:18like
00:28:18something
00:28:18about
00:28:18yourself
00:28:19science
00:28:20has
00:28:20made
00:28:20it
00:28:20possible
00:28:21for
00:28:21you
00:28:21to
00:28:21change
00:28:21that
00:28:22which
00:28:22is
00:28:23also
00:28:23okay
00:28:23because
00:28:23after
00:28:24changing
00:28:24you
00:28:24are
00:28:25able
00:28:25to
00:28:25love
00:28:25yourself
00:28:26and
00:28:26you
00:28:26are
00:28:27looking
00:28:27good
00:28:28so
00:28:28lot
00:28:28of
00:28:28people
00:28:29have
00:28:29opportunities
00:28:29to
00:28:30look
00:28:30better
00:28:30today
00:28:31but
00:28:32the
00:28:32down
00:28:33size
00:28:33of
00:28:34that
00:28:34is
00:28:34sare
00:28:35ek
00:28:35jese
00:28:35lagte
00:28:36hai
00:28:36sabke
00:28:36baal
00:28:36sabke
00:28:37make
00:28:37up
00:28:38ek
00:28:39prototype
00:28:39jese
00:28:40sometimes
00:28:40you
00:28:41know
00:28:42and
00:28:43the
00:28:43pressure
00:28:44is
00:28:44more
00:28:44today
00:28:45because
00:28:45agar
00:28:46aap
00:28:46pahli
00:28:46film
00:28:47mein
00:28:47apne
00:28:47audience
00:28:48ko
00:28:48impress
00:28:49nahi
00:28:50kar
00:28:50pahai
00:28:50suppose
00:28:51with
00:28:51all
00:28:52the
00:28:52grooming
00:28:52because
00:28:53you
00:28:53have
00:28:53no
00:28:54room
00:28:54to
00:28:54improve
00:28:55you
00:28:55have
00:28:55come
00:28:56with
00:28:56all
00:28:56your
00:28:57training
00:28:57diction
00:28:58acting
00:28:59make
00:29:00up
00:29:00costume
00:29:01sab
00:29:02kar karan
00:29:03kya
00:29:03land
00:29:03hoey
00:29:04ho
00:29:04audience
00:29:04ke
00:29:05samen
00:29:05agar
00:29:06by chance
00:29:06audience
00:29:07apko
00:29:08phasan
00:29:08nain
00:29:09kerti
00:29:09ap
00:29:09usi
00:29:10din
00:29:10out
00:29:10ho
00:29:10jate
00:29:11ho
00:29:11hum
00:29:12har
00:29:12zaman
00:29:12me
00:29:12advantage
00:29:13tha
00:29:14hum
00:29:15agar
00:29:15pehli
00:29:16film
00:29:16me
00:29:16loggon
00:29:17ko
00:29:17phasan
00:29:17nain
00:29:18aya
00:29:18leken
00:29:19second
00:29:19chance
00:29:19milta
00:29:20tha
00:29:20third
00:29:20chance
00:29:21milta
00:29:21tha
00:29:21jyese
00:29:22a
00:29:22me
00:29:22nain
00:29:22a
00:29:23pura
00:29:24career
00:29:249
00:29:2510
00:29:25sal
00:29:25ka
00:29:25joh
00:29:26raha
00:29:26meri
00:29:27her
00:29:27film
00:29:27meri
00:29:28liye
00:29:28ek
00:29:28training
00:29:28ground
00:29:29thi
00:29:29many
00:29:30he
00:29:30film
00:29:30oh god
00:29:31my hair
00:29:31is looking
00:29:31terrible
00:29:32so in the next film
00:29:33i improved my hair
00:29:34somewhere i saw my acting was not good
00:29:37in the next film i improved myself
00:29:38i had a span
00:29:40with every movie
00:29:42with going forward
00:29:44i had that
00:29:45so from not so good
00:29:47i had a chance to become good
00:29:50the audience gave me that time
00:29:52and i had the room to improve
00:29:54because i was not the best when i came in phul or kante
00:29:57oh look at my makeup and look at my hair in my first films
00:30:02but people like that they connected with something that was not makeup
00:30:06they connected with something that was not hair or clothes they connected with
00:30:11the soul i think or something and then i had a chance to correct my external
00:30:16today people come perfect
00:30:19a perfection se aage aapko kaha chance milta hai
00:30:22aap ya toh impress karo aur star bano
00:30:25ya aap
00:30:28but this is something that is very true that you know you gradually you know kept grooming yourself with every
00:30:36film
00:30:36because you saw yourself on screen and that's what other actresses of 90s also did
00:30:41we saw maduri dikshet and then
00:30:43karishma
00:30:44so which transformation was most shocking for you
00:30:4890s ki actress ke agar baant kare toh
00:30:52i don't know
00:30:53we were all so innocent
00:30:56if you remember divya bharati
00:30:58myself karishma
00:30:59raveena
00:31:02we all came
00:31:03looking with those frizzy curly hair
00:31:07and now
00:31:08nobody has ever frizzy curly hair
00:31:10you know nobody has frizzy curly hair
00:31:13but we had frizzy curly hair even in our movies
00:31:16so and maduri's curls and look at maduri in her those films and then you know that lovely film dil
00:31:27to paagal hai completely transformed
00:31:28you know there's some great transformations but maduri was a star right from the beginning
00:31:34with the frizzy hair she was a star
00:31:36i became a star with my frizzy hair
00:31:38then i became aate aate aate seekte seekte
00:31:41so everybody transformed
00:31:43and everybody
00:31:44karishma
00:31:45everybody had a transformation
00:31:47they had the time to transform
00:31:49so that's why karishma raveena me
00:31:52we all have a long career span no
00:31:55aito voluntarily left in nine years
00:31:58but the other actresses continued
00:32:00and they transformed and continued
00:32:02and it was a long span
00:32:03today actresses don't have that long span
00:32:06they look amazing in their first film
00:32:08they have few more films
00:32:10and then
00:32:11the new girl comes
00:32:12five years
00:32:13so that is
00:32:15that is the advantage
00:32:16of not
00:32:17starting out perfect
00:32:19and today the advantage is
00:32:21you start out perfect
00:32:22there's a lot of support
00:32:24I don't know what is good
00:32:25but this is what it is
00:32:26you took Divya Bharti's name also
00:32:28have you ever had chance to meet her or like
00:32:31no but I had
00:32:32you know I have many
00:32:35cross with Divya Bharti
00:32:39her father was my father's very good friend
00:32:42from the beach
00:32:43so I knew that my father knew her dad very well
00:32:46secondly Hema ji cast her in Dil Ashna Hai
00:32:50so I knew that she was a part of my own family movie
00:32:54and third I was shooting for a film called
00:32:57Hum Hai Be Misal
00:32:59and we were in Shimla
00:33:00Sunil Shetty and I were shooting
00:33:03when Divya passed away
00:33:07and it was while I was shooting
00:33:09Sunil knew her well
00:33:12so he left the shooting to fly down
00:33:16in that
00:33:16so these were the three incidents that
00:33:20happened with me and Divya
00:33:22other than that I didn't
00:33:23I had never met her
00:33:24but
00:33:29also there is one thing
00:33:31that is being discussed a lot
00:33:33it's not something that is new
00:33:36it was discussed earlier also
00:33:37but because there is social media these days
00:33:39there are discussion
00:33:40the intensity of discussion is too much
00:33:42so for the last two three days
00:33:45there have been online discussion
00:33:46and a debate going
00:33:47Janvi
00:33:48how about Janvi
00:33:49I want to know
00:33:50like there is history of Hindi
00:33:51Sarma more than 115 years
00:33:54and objectification of women
00:33:57that you know social media is discussing
00:33:59so much
00:34:00it was there in you know
00:34:0470s 80s also
00:34:05like when the cabaret numbers were introduced
00:34:07and then in other forms as well
00:34:10but if you see you know today's film
00:34:16what do you think like
00:34:17do you think that objectification is more as compared to
00:34:20you know era of 80s 70s 80s 90s
00:34:23or it is less
00:34:26it's not more or less
00:34:27but our cinema has to evolve
00:34:31with the mindset of our society
00:34:33back in the day
00:34:35what was very easily accepted as
00:34:37yeh toh hota hi hai
00:34:39and therefore our films depicted
00:34:40every film there was a rape scene
00:34:44there used to be
00:34:45in fact Ranjit sir was called the rape specialist
00:34:48woh scene ho ga
00:34:49toh hi ek hero ho sakta hai
00:34:51because then the hero will take revenge
00:34:53of his sister
00:34:55or somebody's rape scene
00:34:56and then the hero will come and take revenge
00:34:59all stories were based
00:35:01nobody ever questioned
00:35:02oh my god
00:35:03they are showing this rape scene
00:35:05and they would show the rape scene
00:35:07you know the pulling
00:35:08and the struggles
00:35:09and all that
00:35:10i myself have been a part of
00:35:12there was no questions raised on that
00:35:14it was like
00:35:15this had to be shown in the film
00:35:17so the rest of the story can continue
00:35:19today do you ever see a film
00:35:21where there is a rape scene
00:35:22even if there is
00:35:24it is shown in a very like
00:35:27subtle
00:35:28it is subtle
00:35:29and just a
00:35:30maybe this happened to her
00:35:32like that
00:35:33because
00:35:34today our society has become very different
00:35:37the position
00:35:38the status of women
00:35:39has changed
00:35:40today
00:35:41the conversation around molestation
00:35:45rape
00:35:46is very serious
00:35:47so a rape scene cannot be casually shown in a movie
00:35:51like a small scene
00:35:53so that the whole film can take off
00:35:55so there are no rape scenes today in any of the film
00:35:57which was the most key scene in all the 70s film
00:36:01right
00:36:01so our society has changed
00:36:03in the same way
00:36:04earlier like you said
00:36:06there were special dancers
00:36:07there were special items
00:36:10and it used to be introduced in a special way
00:36:12the bad girls
00:36:13the vamp
00:36:14they did one song
00:36:16and then they would character slander those characters
00:36:20they were shown as bad people
00:36:22and then they would introduce
00:36:24to titillate the audience
00:36:25or to engage the audience
00:36:27or whatever
00:36:29then
00:36:30things changed
00:36:31you know
00:36:32so basically
00:36:33today
00:36:34and then even me
00:36:35I have been a part of
00:36:37so many movies
00:36:38where apples were thrown at my stomach
00:36:40and the cameras are
00:36:42you know
00:36:43and no conversations were raised
00:36:45it was seen as art
00:36:46it was seen as dance
00:36:47it was seen as a normal
00:36:48dance choreography
00:36:50you know
00:36:51the heaving of the breast
00:36:52and the throwing of the apples
00:36:54on the navel
00:36:55and the camera focusing
00:36:56nobody made any objection
00:36:57but today
00:36:59the very same
00:37:01camera angles
00:37:02or the very same shots
00:37:04are being trolled
00:37:05and being questioned
00:37:06because
00:37:07we are having different conversation
00:37:09today
00:37:09in our society
00:37:10women are shouting
00:37:11that don't objectify us
00:37:14don't make us
00:37:15this person
00:37:16we are more than that
00:37:17the women have changed today
00:37:19we have a voice today
00:37:20we are asking questions
00:37:22we are demanding
00:37:23what we want
00:37:24we are saying
00:37:25we will want the same pay
00:37:27or we will not work extra
00:37:29we want these many workers
00:37:30so
00:37:30the position of women
00:37:32in our society
00:37:33has changed
00:37:33and therefore
00:37:34the movie has to change
00:37:35today
00:37:36casually
00:37:36you cannot show
00:37:37and that is why
00:37:38this conversation
00:37:39is happening today
00:37:40let's see how
00:37:41the industry
00:37:43resolves this
00:37:44or how we
00:37:45adjust to this
00:37:47but this is only happening
00:37:48because
00:37:49we
00:37:49the audience is changing
00:37:51we don't want to give
00:37:53that
00:37:53you know
00:37:54we don't want to give
00:37:55young minds
00:37:57that
00:37:58I think
00:37:59you know
00:37:59because
00:38:00there is a lot of
00:38:01trigger conversation
00:38:02women are
00:38:03you know
00:38:04we want to protect
00:38:05women today
00:38:05and therefore
00:38:06we don't want to have
00:38:07those things shown to us
00:38:08as normal
00:38:09in my time
00:38:11in Pulor Kante
00:38:12the first song
00:38:13of Eve teasing
00:38:14the first two songs
00:38:15was only Eve teasing
00:38:16the boys are chasing
00:38:18in a college campus
00:38:20and whistling
00:38:21and that I am looking
00:38:22at romance
00:38:23and we all looked at it
00:38:24as romance
00:38:25and I fell in love
00:38:26with that boy
00:38:27who was teasing me
00:38:28and harassing me
00:38:29today you would call
00:38:30that and put him
00:38:31behind bars
00:38:32if a boy chased you
00:38:34today in colleges
00:38:35and campus
00:38:35and did all this
00:38:36it would not
00:38:37be accepted
00:38:38and today
00:38:39therefore you can't
00:38:40even show that
00:38:41in a movie
00:38:41because if you show
00:38:43that in a movie
00:38:43and we start admiring
00:38:45it as an audience
00:38:46then it may give
00:38:47subtle permission
00:38:47to young men
00:38:49youngsters
00:38:50that they can do this
00:38:51but you cannot do this
00:38:53this is not romance
00:38:54this is not love
00:38:55this is Eve teasing
00:38:56this is harassment
00:38:57but that same thing
00:38:59had become the biggest
00:38:59hit in the 90s
00:39:00and I am a part of that
00:39:01hit
00:39:02right
00:39:02but that was not trolled
00:39:04that was only made
00:39:05a big hit
00:39:06so what I am trying
00:39:07to say is
00:39:07when our cinema
00:39:09reflects our society
00:39:11as our society
00:39:12changes
00:39:13as the conversation
00:39:14changes
00:39:15the movie has to
00:39:16reflect that
00:39:17otherwise
00:39:17this kind of
00:39:19trolling
00:39:19will happen
00:39:20as a young girl
00:39:21I am sure
00:39:22that the question
00:39:23must have never
00:39:24crossed your mind
00:39:25also in 90s
00:39:26because
00:39:26as you said
00:39:27that it was
00:39:28considered very very
00:39:28normal
00:39:30what about
00:39:31the lead heroes
00:39:33did they ever
00:39:34because
00:39:34they were considered
00:39:35very powerful
00:39:35and they used to
00:39:36you know
00:39:37take
00:39:37you know
00:39:38major decisions
00:39:38as we know
00:39:40did they ever
00:39:41you know
00:39:42give their opinions
00:39:43on such scenes
00:39:44that were shot
00:39:44with actresses
00:39:45or they were also
00:39:46like okay with
00:39:47all the scenes
00:39:48all these kind of scenes
00:39:49I had a very strict
00:39:51policy for myself
00:39:52that I will not
00:39:53wear certain kind
00:39:54of clothes
00:39:55that makes me
00:39:56uncomfortable
00:39:58and I will not
00:39:59do kissing
00:40:01on the screen
00:40:02and you know
00:40:03I had made
00:40:04certain rules
00:40:04so right in the
00:40:06beginning I would
00:40:07tell
00:40:08and the best thing
00:40:09was in my time
00:40:10no actresses did it
00:40:11so it was not a
00:40:12fight for me
00:40:13it was just the way
00:40:14the industry went
00:40:15no one did it
00:40:17then slowly slowly
00:40:18somebody started
00:40:19doing it
00:40:20but I stuck to my
00:40:22policy
00:40:22where I come from
00:40:24and no hero
00:40:26nobody interfered
00:40:27it was just the norm
00:40:28the girls didn't do it
00:40:30the boys didn't do it
00:40:31you know
00:40:32and yet we all loved
00:40:34and yet we all romanced
00:40:35and yet we all sang
00:40:36and you were like
00:40:39at the top
00:40:40like with films
00:40:40like Fuller, Kante, Rosa
00:40:42and a lot of other films
00:40:44like Dil Jale, Elan
00:40:46all these films
00:40:46you did most of the films
00:40:49with like
00:40:49if we talk about
00:40:50Hindi film heroes
00:40:51like Ajay Devgan, Akshay Kumar
00:40:52Soni Shetty
00:40:53they were all action heroes
00:40:54you know
00:40:55who ruled 90s
00:40:57but did you ever get
00:40:59opportunity
00:41:00or any offer
00:41:01to work with
00:41:02Shah Rukh Salman
00:41:04or you know
00:41:06was it like
00:41:07on the cards
00:41:07and it didn't happen
00:41:08yeah no
00:41:09I wanted to work with
00:41:10yeah I had
00:41:10there was an opportunity
00:41:11to work with Shah Rukh
00:41:13I've always been a big fan
00:41:14of his
00:41:15you know
00:41:16I think I even had a film
00:41:18that got shelved
00:41:18that was the
00:41:20as close as I got
00:41:22to Shah Rukh
00:41:23and Amir and
00:41:25Salman
00:41:25I never got a film opportunity
00:41:27Amir nothing at all
00:41:28but with Salman Bhai
00:41:30I had a chance to travel
00:41:31I travelled with him
00:41:32we did a full
00:41:34tour
00:41:35you know
00:41:35the dance tours
00:41:36that we used to do
00:41:37the shows
00:41:37so that's when
00:41:38I got to perform with him
00:41:40on stage and stuff
00:41:41but other than that
00:41:42I didn't get to do
00:41:43work with Khans
00:41:45which film got Shil?
00:41:47I can't remember the name
00:41:48whether it was
00:41:48Chahat or something like that
00:41:50it keeps coming up
00:41:51somebody or the other
00:41:52and I don't
00:41:53I never shared a scene
00:41:55with him
00:41:55or maybe I did
00:41:56half a scene
00:41:57I can't even remember
00:41:58but there was one film
00:41:59that was signed
00:42:00but never got made
00:42:03also talking about
00:42:05since you have worked
00:42:06with Akshay Kumar
00:42:07Ajay Devgan
00:42:07they are action heroes
00:42:09but if we talk set
00:42:11because Akshay is considered
00:42:13to be a big prankster
00:42:14and Ajay Devgan
00:42:16is slightly considered
00:42:17to be serious
00:42:17so how went
00:42:18they like on the set
00:42:19no I thought
00:42:21Ajay was a prankster
00:42:22because I've been
00:42:23part of having fun
00:42:24with him
00:42:25when he did
00:42:25all those funny things
00:42:27somebody or the other
00:42:28would be the sad victim
00:42:30and
00:42:31so Ajay was a very quiet person
00:42:36very reserved person
00:42:37but he was always funny
00:42:38below the breath
00:42:39that's what I thought of him
00:42:43and
00:42:44Akshay on the other hand
00:42:45was more
00:42:47friendly on the set
00:42:48like as in loud
00:42:49and energetic
00:42:50he was very energetic
00:42:52and
00:42:53but all these people
00:42:55were as young as me
00:42:56we were all of the same age
00:42:58you know
00:42:59same age actually
00:43:00maybe one year
00:43:01here or there
00:43:02or same
00:43:03so we were all same age
00:43:05trying to make it
00:43:06and everybody was driven
00:43:08starting out
00:43:09we had that
00:43:10very equal
00:43:11friendly vibe
00:43:13the only time
00:43:14I felt a little
00:43:15like
00:43:16this thing was
00:43:17when I got to work
00:43:18with Chintuji
00:43:20you know
00:43:21because I was a big fan
00:43:22of his
00:43:22and then like
00:43:23he's the senior actor
00:43:24I'm working with
00:43:25at that time
00:43:27there was a lot of
00:43:27respect for him
00:43:28you know
00:43:29when I worked with
00:43:30Nana Patekar
00:43:31Rishi Kapoor
00:43:33there was a lot of respect
00:43:35it was not like
00:43:36working with a friend
00:43:37but I looked up to
00:43:38them
00:43:39and I worked with them
00:43:41Govinda was my
00:43:42sweetheart
00:43:43you know
00:43:44it was just fun
00:43:45the whole movie
00:43:46was fun
00:43:46working with him
00:43:48and Akshay Sunil
00:43:49and Ajay
00:43:50were more like
00:43:52we are the same
00:43:53we started off
00:43:53together
00:43:54and we are the same age
00:43:55and we are just
00:43:56have the same mission
00:43:57so we get to hear
00:43:59a lot of stories
00:44:00about Govinda
00:44:01arriving late on the set
00:44:02and it's all over
00:44:03so did it happen
00:44:04with you all
00:44:04yes
00:44:05yes
00:44:06in fact
00:44:07it was very annoying
00:44:08for an actor
00:44:09actress
00:44:10when she's waiting
00:44:12and the other actor
00:44:13doesn't arrive
00:44:14and everybody's waiting
00:44:16it's very
00:44:16irritating
00:44:18so
00:44:19but I love Govinda
00:44:21and I had a great
00:44:22relationship with him
00:44:23because also he was
00:44:24my father's hero
00:44:25my father made a film
00:44:27called Avargi
00:44:28where it was
00:44:29Anil Kapoor
00:44:30Govinda
00:44:31and Meenakshi
00:44:32so I know these people
00:44:33from
00:44:34when I was not an actor
00:44:36when I was a little girl
00:44:37and these guys were
00:44:38actors in my father's film
00:44:39I know him since then
00:44:40and I love Govinda
00:44:42I've been a fan of his
00:44:43since
00:44:44Ildam
00:44:45and
00:44:47Meen Semina
00:44:48Sena
00:44:49you know
00:44:49he was just too good
00:44:51you know at that time
00:44:53so I could never be
00:44:54really angry with him
00:44:56so what I would do was
00:44:59people would say
00:45:00tomorrow 9 o'clock shift
00:45:01Madhu be ready
00:45:02by 9.30
00:45:03and all that
00:45:03I'd say
00:45:04okay sir
00:45:04okay sir
00:45:05and then go to
00:45:07Chichi Govinda
00:45:08and say
00:45:09what time are you
00:45:10really coming tomorrow
00:45:12he'd say
00:45:13Tuena
00:45:13Tu gyanah manje takajana
00:45:15mein aatau
00:45:16he would tell me that
00:45:17so I knew
00:45:18these people are saying
00:45:19come at 9 o'clock
00:45:20but I knew
00:45:21Govinda is telling me
00:45:22to come at 11 means
00:45:23he will
00:45:25probably come a little bit
00:45:26later than that
00:45:27but I developed a relationship
00:45:28with him
00:45:29where he was
00:45:30you know
00:45:30he would tell me
00:45:31what time is coming
00:45:32so I would
00:45:32then come accordingly
00:45:34for my work
00:45:35you belong to a film family
00:45:37so you know
00:45:38for the choosing
00:45:39of the films
00:45:40in 90s
00:45:41did you seek
00:45:42suggestion of your father
00:45:43of Hema ji
00:45:44and like
00:45:45other members
00:45:46of your family
00:45:48and fraternity
00:45:48I was a very proud
00:45:50arrogant
00:45:5120 year old
00:45:52because I came
00:45:53from a lot of pain
00:45:54and I came
00:45:55from a rejection
00:45:57I came from
00:45:58humiliation
00:46:00and therefore
00:46:01I came
00:46:02with that ego
00:46:03ab meh karke dikhaongi
00:46:05now I will show you
00:46:07what I can do
00:46:07so because
00:46:09I came with that
00:46:10I became
00:46:10closed
00:46:12to people
00:46:13and their opinion
00:46:13I didn't want
00:46:15to know from people
00:46:16how bad I was
00:46:17or what was not
00:46:18okay with me
00:46:18now when I think
00:46:20back
00:46:20it worked for me
00:46:21at that time
00:46:22but had I been
00:46:24open
00:46:24I could have taken
00:46:25some suggestions
00:46:26people could have
00:46:27helped me
00:46:27with many things
00:46:29especially Hema ji
00:46:30who is a veteran
00:46:31in the industry
00:46:32she probably could have
00:46:33given me more tips
00:46:34on my makeup
00:46:36some tips
00:46:37I could have gotten
00:46:38from all the
00:46:38experienced
00:46:39well-wishers
00:46:40in the industry
00:46:40but because I came
00:46:42from a place
00:46:42of anger
00:46:45I became a very
00:46:46proud person
00:46:47and I wanted
00:46:48to prove
00:46:49everybody
00:46:49that I am so good
00:46:51and I will make it
00:46:52and because of
00:46:53that attitude
00:46:53I didn't allow
00:46:54anybody in
00:46:55to either help me
00:46:57or to bring me down
00:46:59I just didn't want
00:46:59anybody
00:47:00either to make it
00:47:01good for me
00:47:02or to make it
00:47:03bad for me
00:47:05I will do it
00:47:06on my own
00:47:07that was my attitude
00:47:08so these days
00:47:11like what kind
00:47:13Isha is much
00:47:14younger to you
00:47:15so whenever you
00:47:16meet like Hema ji
00:47:17Isha said
00:47:18what kind of
00:47:19conversation do you
00:47:20have about
00:47:20mostly about
00:47:21today's film
00:47:22or just a family
00:47:23conversation
00:47:24no we have
00:47:26a lot of
00:47:26family conversations
00:47:27and no matter
00:47:28how often we meet
00:47:30or don't meet
00:47:31we have the same
00:47:32DNA
00:47:32we have the same
00:47:34blood in the vein
00:47:34we think alike
00:47:35we have the same
00:47:37belief system
00:47:38one of the things
00:47:39that I have been
00:47:40inspired by Hema ji
00:47:41is the dignity
00:47:43in silence
00:47:44no matter what
00:47:45happens
00:47:45she doesn't open
00:47:46her mouth
00:47:47to put anyone
00:47:48down
00:47:48or to put her
00:47:50feelings out
00:47:50because she believes
00:47:51who cares
00:47:52you only become
00:47:53a entertaining
00:47:54conversation for
00:47:55somebody
00:47:55and I don't
00:47:56want to be that
00:47:57that is her
00:47:58belief
00:47:58and I believe
00:47:59that
00:47:59if I have
00:48:00something nice
00:48:01to say about
00:48:01someone I would
00:48:02like to say
00:48:03if I don't
00:48:04have anything
00:48:04nice to say
00:48:05then I don't
00:48:05need to say
00:48:06and if I'm
00:48:08doing well
00:48:08and if I'm
00:48:09successful
00:48:09then you will
00:48:10tell me
00:48:11I'm good at
00:48:11it and I'm
00:48:12successful
00:48:12and if I'm
00:48:13going through
00:48:14a difficult
00:48:14time
00:48:14then I will
00:48:15handle it
00:48:16you don't
00:48:16need to know
00:48:17and I think
00:48:18I think
00:48:18we were not
00:48:20much aware
00:48:21of that
00:48:22earlier
00:48:22but in the
00:48:23last few
00:48:23months we
00:48:24have seen
00:48:24that after
00:48:25Taramji
00:48:26she has
00:48:26come across
00:48:27like a very
00:48:27very strong
00:48:28lady
00:48:28the way
00:48:29you know
00:48:30she is doing
00:48:31work
00:48:31like still
00:48:31going there
00:48:32and continuously
00:48:33carrying her
00:48:34work
00:48:34and doing
00:48:35lot of
00:48:35things at
00:48:36the same
00:48:36time
00:48:36so she
00:48:37comes across
00:48:38as a very
00:48:38very strong
00:48:39and yes
00:48:39this is the
00:48:40most difficult
00:48:41time I'm
00:48:42sure it is
00:48:43for her
00:48:43and for the
00:48:44family
00:48:44I know
00:48:45that
00:48:45but she's
00:48:47always exhibited
00:48:48this quality
00:48:49even after
00:48:50something big
00:48:51got stolen
00:48:52from our
00:48:53house
00:48:54she went
00:48:55to the
00:48:55police station
00:48:56made some
00:48:56complaints
00:48:57did something
00:48:57second day
00:48:59she was out
00:48:59traveling
00:49:00and then I
00:49:01asked her
00:49:02Hima what
00:49:03happened
00:49:03did you find
00:49:04what to do
00:49:05maybe in my
00:49:06previous birth
00:49:07I owed it
00:49:08to him
00:49:09he'll come
00:49:10if they find
00:49:10it they'll
00:49:11give it to
00:49:11me
00:49:11with no
00:49:12regret
00:49:13you know
00:49:13that's a
00:49:14strength of
00:49:14the person
00:49:16she lost
00:49:17some
00:49:17then when
00:49:18Esha got
00:49:19married
00:49:19very next
00:49:20day she
00:49:20left for
00:49:21parliament
00:49:22you know
00:49:23not
00:49:23and she
00:49:24misses Esha
00:49:25they are
00:49:25you know
00:49:26mothers and
00:49:26daughters are
00:49:27soul sisters
00:49:28it's not
00:49:28easy
00:49:29when the
00:49:29daughter
00:49:30leaves and
00:49:31goes
00:49:31and next
00:49:32day to
00:49:32resume a
00:49:33normal life
00:49:33but that
00:49:34is
00:49:34Hima ji
00:49:36she carries
00:49:37on with
00:49:37life
00:49:38moves on
00:49:40you know
00:49:40so she's
00:49:41amazing as
00:49:42a human
00:49:42being and
00:49:43she inspires
00:49:43me
00:49:44so when
00:49:45you became
00:49:45mother at
00:49:46that time
00:49:46you took
00:49:47a break
00:49:48and you
00:49:48were with
00:49:48your children
00:49:49in their
00:49:49growing up
00:49:50years
00:49:50but now
00:49:51they have
00:49:52little grown
00:49:53up and
00:49:53like you
00:49:54are back
00:49:54doing movies
00:49:55and you
00:49:55are doing
00:49:55so many
00:49:56movies and
00:49:56you know
00:49:57projects at
00:49:58the same
00:49:58time
00:49:58so you
00:50:00know
00:50:00but still
00:50:01like children
00:50:01are also
00:50:02grown up
00:50:02they also
00:50:02don't need
00:50:03parents too
00:50:03much
00:50:03but how
00:50:04is it
00:50:04like when
00:50:05do you
00:50:05meet them
00:50:05at night
00:50:06and like
00:50:07what kind
00:50:07of guidance
00:50:08do you
00:50:08give them
00:50:09for their
00:50:09career
00:50:09no I'm
00:50:10very connected
00:50:11with my
00:50:12children
00:50:12my children
00:50:13and my
00:50:13family are
00:50:14the most
00:50:15important thing
00:50:16and we
00:50:18talk about
00:50:19everything
00:50:20there is no
00:50:21secrets in our
00:50:22family we
00:50:22talk however
00:50:23bad how
00:50:24much ever we
00:50:24make each
00:50:25other angry
00:50:26we piss off
00:50:27each other
00:50:27but we are
00:50:28open with
00:50:29each other
00:50:29and that's
00:50:30something that
00:50:30I've learned
00:50:31from my
00:50:31husband
00:50:32and my
00:50:34daughters
00:50:34are my
00:50:35jaan
00:50:38so what
00:50:39career do
00:50:40you see
00:50:41for them
00:50:42my older
00:50:43one is
00:50:43gonna get
00:50:44married soon
00:50:44so right
00:50:46now I'm
00:50:47sure she's
00:50:47not thinking
00:50:48of work
00:50:48she's in
00:50:50the la la
00:50:50land
00:50:51and my
00:50:52younger
00:50:52daughter
00:50:52is she
00:50:55wanted to
00:50:55follow my
00:50:56footsteps
00:50:56she wanted
00:50:57to be an
00:50:57actor
00:50:58she explored
00:51:00a little
00:51:00bit but
00:51:01she decided
00:51:02that this
00:51:02is not
00:51:03for her
00:51:03so now
00:51:04she's back
00:51:05into business
00:51:05world
00:51:06she's interning
00:51:06with her
00:51:07father and
00:51:07she plans
00:51:08to do
00:51:08other things
00:51:10so that
00:51:10is something
00:51:11you know
00:51:12very very
00:51:12gutsy I
00:51:13think
00:51:13business is
00:51:14not easy
00:51:15thing
00:51:16it's very
00:51:16very difficult
00:51:16I think
00:51:17and one
00:51:18very very
00:51:19important thing
00:51:20you said
00:51:20that you
00:51:21used to
00:51:22party a lot
00:51:23in 90s
00:51:23yes very
00:51:24much a lot
00:51:25who were
00:51:26your party
00:51:26friends in 90s
00:51:27like who
00:51:28was there
00:51:28in your
00:51:29group
00:51:29my party
00:51:30gang was
00:51:30not from
00:51:32the film
00:51:32world
00:51:32my party
00:51:33gang was
00:51:34my college
00:51:34mates and
00:51:35my school
00:51:35mates
00:51:36and we
00:51:37painted
00:51:38Bombay
00:51:39red
00:51:41from
00:51:43RGs
00:51:44to 1900s
00:51:45to Raspberry
00:51:46Rhinoceros
00:51:47to Cyclone
00:51:48all this
00:51:49J49
00:51:49all the
00:51:50nightclubs
00:51:51I was a
00:51:52regular
00:51:53in fact
00:51:54Manoj
00:51:54Bajpayee
00:51:55remembers an
00:51:56incident
00:51:57incident
00:51:57where after
00:51:58his Satya
00:51:59released
00:52:00he said
00:52:01he came
00:52:01to J49
00:52:02and there
00:52:03he saw
00:52:04me partying
00:52:04and he
00:52:06said
00:52:06you know
00:52:06in fact
00:52:07recently
00:52:07in an
00:52:08interview
00:52:08and he
00:52:09came with
00:52:09his buddies
00:52:10and he
00:52:10said
00:52:10hey
00:52:10wo teko
00:52:11madhu
00:52:11madhu
00:52:11madhu
00:52:12and then
00:52:12apparently
00:52:13I went
00:52:13up to
00:52:13him
00:52:14and said
00:52:15introduced
00:52:15myself
00:52:16because I
00:52:16had seen
00:52:17his film
00:52:17and as I
00:52:18told you
00:52:18I became
00:52:19a fan
00:52:19or whatever
00:52:19so I
00:52:20believe
00:52:20I went
00:52:21up to
00:52:21him
00:52:21and said
00:52:22introduced
00:52:22myself
00:52:23so he
00:52:23talked
00:52:23about it
00:52:24so imagine
00:52:25Manoj
00:52:25Bajpayee
00:52:26has seen
00:52:26me in
00:52:26J49
00:52:27there was
00:52:28no
00:52:29that
00:52:29spotting
00:52:29culture
00:52:30in
00:52:3090s
00:52:31but
00:52:31did
00:52:32you
00:52:32ever
00:52:32fear
00:52:33press
00:52:33that
00:52:33press
00:52:34would
00:52:34come
00:52:34and
00:52:34find
00:52:35me
00:52:35here
00:52:38we
00:52:38are
00:52:44behaving
00:52:44in a
00:52:45certain
00:52:45way
00:52:45because
00:52:45we
00:52:46know
00:52:46we
00:52:46are
00:52:46being
00:52:46observed
00:52:46not
00:52:47just
00:52:47by
00:52:47press
00:52:48by
00:52:48every
00:52:49driver
00:52:50everybody
00:52:50on
00:52:51the
00:52:51road
00:52:51everybody
00:52:52has
00:52:52a
00:52:52camera
00:52:53everybody
00:52:53has
00:52:54a
00:52:54phone
00:52:54everybody
00:52:55has
00:52:55a
00:52:55voice
00:53:02everybody
00:53:04has
00:53:05a
00:53:05voice
00:53:05everybody
00:53:06has
00:53:06a
00:53:06voice
00:53:07and
00:53:07everybody
00:53:07has
00:53:08a
00:53:08way
00:53:08to
00:53:08reach
00:53:08you
00:53:09so
00:53:10your
00:53:10life
00:53:10is
00:53:10a
00:53:11bit
00:53:11restricted
00:53:12if
00:53:12you
00:53:12don't
00:53:12want
00:53:12to
00:53:13become
00:53:13a
00:53:13conversation
00:53:14you
00:53:14have
00:53:14to
00:53:14be
00:53:15so
00:53:15careful
00:53:15I
00:53:17don't
00:53:17want
00:53:17to
00:53:17talk
00:53:18about
00:53:18the
00:53:18general
00:53:18public
00:53:18who
00:53:19you
00:53:19know
00:53:19click
00:53:19pictures
00:53:20of
00:53:20celebrities
00:53:20and
00:53:22shoot
00:53:23their
00:53:24videos
00:53:24but
00:53:24generally
00:53:25also
00:53:25there's
00:53:25a
00:53:26culture
00:53:26that
00:53:27you
00:53:28know
00:53:28even
00:53:28Karanjahar
00:53:28also
00:53:28spoke
00:53:29about
00:53:29that
00:53:29celebrities
00:53:30also
00:53:30they
00:53:30want
00:53:30to
00:53:30be
00:53:31seen
00:53:31they
00:53:31want
00:53:31to
00:53:31be
00:53:31spotted
00:53:32and
00:53:32that
00:53:32is
00:53:32why
00:53:33they
00:53:34pay
00:53:34you
00:53:35know
00:53:35money
00:53:35to
00:53:36all
00:53:36these
00:53:36paps
00:53:36how do
00:53:37you
00:53:37see
00:53:37this
00:53:38culture
00:53:39like
00:53:39you
00:53:40know
00:53:40there
00:53:40is
00:53:40good
00:53:41and
00:53:41bad
00:53:41to
00:53:41everything
00:53:42the
00:53:43bad
00:53:43is
00:53:44you
00:53:47know
00:53:50we
00:53:50are
00:53:50human
00:53:51beings
00:53:51and
00:53:52human
00:53:52beings
00:53:53look
00:53:53good
00:53:53one
00:53:53day
00:53:54and
00:53:54one
00:53:54day
00:53:54they
00:53:54don't
00:53:54look
00:53:55good
00:53:55but
00:53:55because
00:53:56of
00:53:56this
00:53:56culture
00:53:57of
00:53:57being
00:53:57seen
00:53:58and
00:53:58spotted
00:53:58and
00:53:58written
00:53:59about
00:53:59sab
00:54:00cheez
00:54:00eek
00:54:00conversation
00:54:01ban
00:54:01jati
00:54:01hai
00:54:01har
00:54:02cheez
00:54:02ke
00:54:02baare
00:54:02mei
00:54:03charcha
00:54:03honne
00:54:03lag
00:54:03jata hai
00:54:04so
00:54:04that's
00:54:05the
00:54:05problem
00:54:06you
00:54:06know
00:54:06being
00:54:07spotted
00:54:07privately
00:54:07you
00:54:08want
00:54:08to
00:54:08go
00:54:08but
00:54:08you
00:54:08are
00:54:09spotted
00:54:09you
00:54:10want
00:54:10to
00:54:10drink
00:54:10and
00:54:10relax
00:54:11with
00:54:11your
00:54:11friend
00:54:11you
00:54:11spotted
00:54:12aapke
00:54:13behavior
00:54:13aapki
00:54:14chaal
00:54:15you
00:54:15know
00:54:15everything
00:54:24you
00:54:24know
00:54:25but
00:54:25you
00:54:25get
00:54:25spotted
00:54:26the
00:54:26way
00:54:26you
00:54:27are
00:54:27walking
00:54:27into
00:54:27your
00:54:27car
00:54:28and
00:54:28then
00:54:28everybody
00:54:28talks
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00:54:52Shah Rukji
00:54:52said
00:54:53the day
00:54:53people
00:54:53stop
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00:54:54me
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00:55:18nobody
00:55:19recognizes
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00:55:20today
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00:55:21somebody
00:55:21recognizes
00:55:22me
00:55:22and
00:55:22says
00:55:22spotted
00:55:23madhu
00:55:24you
00:55:28know
00:55:29it makes
00:55:29you feel
00:55:30that
00:55:33feeling
00:55:34everybody
00:55:34likes
00:55:35so
00:55:35as
00:55:36much
00:55:36as
00:55:37one
00:55:37likes
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00:55:38complain
00:55:38God
00:55:39I
00:55:39can't
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00:55:40what
00:55:40I
00:55:40did
00:55:41and
00:55:41they
00:55:41catch
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00:55:42all
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00:55:43time
00:55:44when
00:55:44somebody
00:55:44takes
00:55:45a
00:55:45picture
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00:55:47restaurant
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00:56:08are
00:56:08all
00:56:09human
00:56:09beings
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00:56:11same
00:56:11thing
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00:56:18don't
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00:56:20read
00:56:20Amishya
00:56:21Patil's
00:56:21tweet
00:56:21like
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00:56:22wrote
00:56:23a
00:56:23long
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00:56:30days
00:56:31actresses
00:56:32of
00:56:32today's
00:56:33time
00:56:33they
00:56:33have
00:56:34hardly
00:56:34given
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00:56:35single
00:56:35hit
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00:56:37so
00:56:37strong
00:56:37that
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00:56:38call
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00:56:40A plus
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00:56:41A plus
00:56:41actress
00:56:41they
00:56:42keep
00:56:42themselves
00:56:42in
00:56:42A plus
00:56:43category
00:56:43and
00:56:44actresses
00:56:44who
00:56:45have
00:56:45really
00:56:45given
00:56:46such
00:56:46big
00:56:46hits
00:56:47and
00:56:47Amisha
00:56:48has
00:56:48also
00:56:48given
00:56:48really
00:56:49big
00:56:49hits
00:56:50so
00:56:50they
00:56:51are
00:56:52not
00:56:53probably
00:56:54appreciated
00:56:54so
00:56:55much
00:56:55like
00:56:57actresses
00:56:57who
00:56:58have
00:56:58got
00:56:58very
00:56:58good
00:56:59PR
00:56:59so
00:57:00what
00:57:00do
00:57:00you
00:57:00have
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00:57:00say
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00:57:01take
00:57:02life
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00:57:03comes
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00:57:05have
00:57:05say
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00:57:10take
00:57:15life
00:57:16as
00:57:16it
00:57:30be uh it's not benefit or popularity paati hain lekin unki popularity kitne sala tak
00:57:37ti hai jo filmen hit hooti hain unki popularity decades rukti hain aaj bhi you remember rekhah
00:57:44ji or wahida rahman ji asha paarek ji agar bahar aati hain toh aap unko bhool nahi paati
00:57:49even today when you see hey mama anyway she is still working you see her everywhere but
00:57:56even if you see an asha paarek ji or wahida ji who when did they work but the body of
00:58:02work is so much that even today anybody will recognize them so that is the power of real
00:58:09work but uh not to uh put anybody down today people are not known so much unki aaj ki filme
00:58:17da sal tak nahi tikti but they are making the best of what they have we made the we made
00:58:23use of what we had they are making so why complain puja bhat had once given a very interesting
00:58:30jo mujhe achhi lag jate hai na jo baathe mujhe lagti hai na woh mere mind se kabhi nahi jate
00:58:36hai so in one of the nineties interview okay puja bhat had said everybody asked this question
00:58:42that puja bhat only gives successful movies when mahesh bhat makes movies jab dusre picture
00:58:47banate hai uski hit ni hoti jab uske papa banate hai and papa is only making films for puja
00:58:53mahesh ji is only making films for puja bhat and puja bhat is become so she said yeah so
00:58:59what why should i feel guilty i am born to mahesh bhat and mahesh bhat is a director and he
00:59:05is
00:59:05making films so that is my privilege why should i apologize for my privilege which god has blessed
00:59:11me so in the same way the new generation if they have the privilege of today's pr or social
00:59:18media that's their luck so you know you should i don't complain so i just i am also taking advantage
00:59:25of this very pr thing i am a nineties actor but this very social media or the pr is still
00:59:31keeping me in people's memory they are still playing reels from roja and elan and yeshwanth
00:59:45and also because now we are about to ram it but one thing while you spoke about roja and
00:59:51yeshwanth and elan that you were playing like you gave such big hit like fuller kante roja
00:59:58and at the same time like around the same time you were also playing uh heroine sister i think
01:00:02uh saif ali khan sunil shetty uh which one was that pehchan yeah yeah and uh also a supporting
01:00:10role in dil jane but at the same time you were also playing lead which was not i think very
01:00:14normal in nineteen yeah because a i didn't consider pehchan's role as a supporting lead i considered
01:00:21it as a lead only thing is i didn't romance the main hero but i played the main the crux
01:00:28of
01:00:28the film so i didn't think of that role as a supporting actor and when i came to dil jale
01:00:33by then i had already done films like roja yodha and so many in-depth uh films so when i
01:00:43came to
01:00:43dil jale i was looking for stuff where i could do something that i have not done singing songs and
01:00:50loving the hero i had done for nine years so when the terrorist role came where i love the hero
01:00:56but
01:00:57the hero doesn't love me i love that role i didn't look at it as a supporting role i looked
01:01:02at it as
01:01:03wow this is a role i should play and that's a role that by the way won me my husband
01:01:09kyunki my husband saw this film in singapore i believe
01:01:13aur unko laga ke ya wow this girl she's amazing next thing i know i'm married to this man
01:01:20that's the role even i remember most
01:01:22dekho wo supporting role nahi tha wo us film ka lead role tha par except ke hum cliche mein
01:01:30ke jo gaana gaata hai love karta hai romance karta usko hum heroine maante baakhi logon ko hum supporting
01:01:36character maante but actually that was a main lead so in a way you took risk like sharuk khan did
01:01:42in
01:01:4390s with dar i mean who would do dar if you are a hero but he did it right it's
01:01:49same thing i had
01:01:50that same mindset i wanted to do something different you had no inhibitions or no apprehension about it
01:01:56that you are playing such a character no i was very proud in fact in pehchan the more people told
01:02:02me
01:02:03the main actors have rejected it mean main heroines have rejected it i was not obviously the first
01:02:08choice i believe so they went to many other people at that time they all said no and then it
01:02:13came to me
01:02:15uh the more they said usne no bola usne no bola i was like main to haa hi bolongi merko
01:02:20ye karna
01:02:21i was so proud of that film you are aware that who rejected it are you aware like one of
01:02:26the names that
01:02:27came to my uh thing was karishma kapoor i don't know who else but i was told that two three
01:02:32of them had rejected it and i was told karishma rejected it okay so now we have like you have
01:02:39spoken so well about your entire career and we also got a very interesting anecdote that how you
01:02:44met your husband and got married to your husband so before we wrap what would you like to say your
01:02:49fans because 90s kata craze aaj we have said that your fans are still there all over social media and
01:02:56rosa and puller kante is still like one of like few of those movies that is fresh in people's mind
01:03:02who
01:03:02have grown up in 90s so what would you like to say to your fans i just want to say
01:03:07after living a life
01:03:09till 50 and plus years one thing i've realized is that i'm born to be an actress whether i act
01:03:16whether
01:03:17i have the movie chance to be in a movie opportunities to act or not i don't know but i
01:03:22know now that i'm
01:03:23born to be an actress and all of you have recognized that for me and given me so much love
01:03:29and you don't forget me and you always keep me in your heart in your mind special thanks to all
01:03:37the
01:03:37audiences fans and special thanks to media special thanks to media every journalist has only given me
01:03:44love so thank you so much all of you
01:03:46love so thank you so much
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