00:00A fight that I'm looking forward to here is Trout versus Bonner, and we haven't seen Austin in a while
00:07here, and I think that people are starting to see right now the different levels of skill, the different types
00:13of fighters, the different backgrounds that fighters have in BKFC, but let's talk a little bit about the Liberty Brawl
00:21and the card there with Austin, Trout, and Bonner. What are your early thoughts on this matchup?
00:27You have to love the matchup. I mean, Trout has been nothing short of phenomenal. He's one of the few
00:33guys, he's the first guy, in my opinion, to be a very high-level boxer who said, okay, this isn't
00:38boxing without gloves. I have to figure out how to do this more. What do I do? So I go
00:42into Muay Thai gyms, MMA. He learned the clinch. He learned what he has to do to avoid it. You
00:47know, that's where some guys have been so bad, and they'll just get in that clinch, and they gas out.
00:52They don't know what to do. He's been very good.
00:54So if you can translate that high-level boxer, take a few things, tweak a little bit, and then make
00:59him utilize the skills that he's been developing for 20 years, he's going to do very well. He's done that.
01:04However, Bonner is a different kind of fighter. You know, he's going to come in, and he's going to try
01:09and, you know, get into the pocket and land punches. He's not going to really try and get in the
01:14clinch. He's all about power, and this is a different sport. When you get hit with no gloves, just like
01:19Darren Till learned, it's different. You can't get hit at all.
01:22So Austin's going to have to be perfect to win this fight, which he might be, but he might not
01:26be. It's an intriguing fight, in my opinion.
01:29How important is head movement? That's what I'm just thinking, too, right? Austin's head movement and just that boxing background
01:35of avoiding getting drilled, you know, is an underrated aspect of this sport, isn't it?
01:44We speak to fighters on a weekly basis, and, you know, a lot of people talk about what they're going
01:49to do to their opponent, Chris, but you were the type of guy that didn't mind getting hit, right, in
01:53your career.
01:54But as you stated, this is a different beast, man, with, you know, in the bare knuckle world.
02:00It was so funny. When I first started doing bare knuckle, like, I was, you know, I was a boxer.
02:05I said, man, that guy definitely wanted to trade.
02:07Once I started doing bare knuckle, I learned immediately you can't trade. So I had shifted my entire style to
02:13avoid punches, a lot of head movement, a lot of pulls.
02:16And that's funny. All the things that the fighters talk about is head movement and footwork. You have to be
02:22very good at things.
02:23And if you're not very good at them, you better develop a skill to get good at those. If you're
02:26not going to be, you're going to have a rough go at it.
02:28You better just be very genetically gifted to take a lot of abuse. But who wants to do that? That's
02:33stupid.
02:33So the high-level guys can really avoid shots. They don't take a lot of clean shots. That's what you
02:38have to do to be good.
02:39It's always going to happen every now and again, but you can't make a career on just being tough. You're
02:43going to struggle, I think.
02:44So that's where Austin's been good. But, I mean, once again, it doesn't take many shots.
02:49If a guy can get in and land one good shot and they're not used to it, that can be
02:54a game-changing event that happens.
02:56And that's what Bonner's planning on doing. He's planning on getting in that pocket, getting in the area where he
03:00can land one good shot
03:01and change the whole way Austin Trout fights.
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