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Mumbai, Maharashtra: During an exclusive interview with the cast and creators of 'Pyramid Scheme', including Paramvir Cheema, Ranvir Shorey, Shekhar Suman, and director Shreyansh Pandey, the team discussed the show's themes, characters, and relevance in contemporary society. Paramvir Cheema and Shekhar Suman shared insights into their roles, exploring ambition, financial struggles, and the charisma of con artists who lure people into fraudulent schemes. The conversation concluded with the cast and creators sharing their perspectives on why people are drawn to get-rich-quick promises, the role of social media in influencing such decisions, and the importance of hard work, awareness, patience, and delayed gratification in achieving genuine success.

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00:00Hello everyone, welcome to INS and congratulations for the pyramid scheme that's about to be released on Prime Video.
00:04I'm going to start off by asking with you Param, if you could shed some light on your character, the
00:09world that he comes from.
00:10I'm a CD trigger, very interesting setting, tier 1, tier 2 down I'm assuming.
00:15So what's the world like that he comes from and how does he make his way around this cool pyramid
00:19scheme?
00:20So Golty is a guy who just like every other Indian who wants to earn money.
00:25And looking for a way, but everybody is very fascinated when you see, okay, this is a shortcut to earn
00:32big money.
00:33So he's stuck in his life and he doesn't have any money at home and financially he's not doing great,
00:43very bad.
00:44So finally, he sees someone who has been there and raised to a position.
00:50I think that that was played by Shekar sir. And he's very fascinated with that, how can this be a
00:56little bit less.
00:58And there's a lot of pressure on our family and government pressure.
01:03There's a lot of text on it. It doesn't matter what it does.
01:07And then I think that we're shorting that everybody is not idealist.
01:10Everybody wants to do something from their own way.
01:13And finally, when he gets this scheme that this is a scheme, he couldn't control himself just to go for
01:21this one.
01:22After that, he will see the journey.
01:25And Shekar sir, coming to your character, he's the one who kind of lifts him and other people up from
01:31the world that they live in.
01:34If you could share a brief of your character, his attitude towards people, to make them rich to karti corners.
01:43Yes, one more sense.
01:46So, he leads the show, this whole pyramid scheme.
01:53And nowadays, the schemes of our lives are lost in our lives.
01:56We don't know what kind of schemes are.
01:58Which on the face of it looks very nice and legit.
02:01But it turns out to be something that happened.
02:04And billions of people are choked.
02:06And they're taken for a ride.
02:08They end up trying to take their own rides.
02:10This is the story of the pyramid.
02:12Where people come and create a pyramid.
02:16They make their faith, their dreams, their dreams.
02:18And what kind of pyramid is the pyramid.
02:22The characters can't tell much about them.
02:24Because there are a lot of people in it.
02:27And if you can see them, they will tell them.
02:31And there's a certain charm that's there in your character.
02:34I've seen in the trailer.
02:35So, how did you participate in particular?
02:38I've got a lot of work.
02:39There's no charm.
02:42There's no charm.
02:43There's no charm.
02:43There's no charm.
02:44There's no charm.
02:44No, no.
02:46That's what I'm saying.
02:47That's what I'm saying.
02:48And the first prerequisite is the charm.
02:53You know, everybody gets swayed by the charm.
02:55They're the glip-talkers.
02:56Very, very, very sharp.
02:58They look very intelligent.
03:00Except that their energy is getting anywhere.
03:02People are becoming really smart yet.
03:04There is no charm that's just about it.
03:05Good thinking and stuff like that.
03:06So you put them in the middle of the club.
03:08They go and drive to jail and drive outside.
03:10They do not have just stupid.
03:12It's difficult.
03:12They don't have to take away.
03:13But here is, I've seen a lot of characters like that.
03:16There are a lot of people who left Hindustan and took a lot of tanks and they are very comfortable
03:23and a very good life.
03:25I saw them and listened to them.
03:27The first time they hit the ball, they were playing cricket.
03:33If you listen to them, they are not the character.
03:35I have not heard of this character, and share with regards to the overall data universe of this series, how
03:43close have you seen this series and experienced it and how did you derive from it or drop from it?
03:50I think that, if we look at the last 20 years ago, there are more than 5,000 companies that
04:03have done this.
04:04There are almost more than 1,000,000 people that have done this.
04:10And this is the number that has been reported.
04:13As Mr. told me, the way they show their dreams and you go to the pyramid.
04:21After that, when they fall, they don't have the courage to report a case.
04:30Even if you can tell your family, friends or friends, that it has happened to me.
04:37So the un-reported cases are a lot.
04:41The only thing is that our record director, Ashish and Akshin,
04:49we have researched a lot in detail.
04:53This is a case that was, I think, in 2011.
05:00And we were not able to crack it at the core for a very long time.
05:06And then finally, we talked about it.
05:09But today, we talk about it.
05:10Either that person has seen it directly,
05:15or other people in his family,
05:18like someone's mother, brother, brother,
05:23or mother, or someone else,
05:25or someone else's scheme.
05:29It's a personal experience,
05:31but I don't want to take that name.
05:34I don't want to take that name.
05:37And Ranvi sir,
05:38do you have some experience in this type of thing?
05:42Yes.
05:43I think in my younger days,
05:45when I was in my TV career,
05:50I was doing sound before my TV career.
05:51I was doing sound at that time,
05:52and there was a company
05:53that I was doing sound at one event.
05:56But that's about it.
05:58I'm not as a part of it.
06:01But I have seen such...
06:02Aren't you intrigued by that one?
06:04Because it was quite new back then.
06:06And at that time,
06:07it was not as known as it is now.
06:10At that time,
06:11it seemed like a legit thing,
06:13which is your option.
06:16But now, of course, people are wise.
06:18Yeah.
06:19Yeah.
06:20So for me,
06:21you know,
06:22it was great,
06:24finally,
06:24to be working with EDF first.
06:27Because,
06:28you know,
06:29I consider them as OGs
06:31of original writing in India.
06:34And finally,
06:35I got a chance to work with them,
06:36so I was grateful for that.
06:38And as far as my part is concerned,
06:40I play Manoj Srivastava,
06:45you know,
06:45a good chunk of the population
06:48are the kind of people
06:49who have varied their dreams,
06:51who are the more immediate things
06:54that they need to address in life,
06:56to make a living,
06:57you know,
06:57feeding the family.
06:59And,
07:00so there is that hope
07:02which is kind of bottled up inside.
07:05And,
07:06so I play the character
07:08whose that hope gets
07:12hooked into this scheme.
07:15And it was a great part,
07:16it was very flattering for me
07:19that, you know,
07:19they offered me this part.
07:22And the only way I have managed
07:24to do this part is,
07:25I think,
07:25because of
07:27Shiraymanj and Ashish.
07:30Otherwise,
07:31I probably could have managed
07:32to play this part,
07:33it's so different from myself.
07:35And given that's different
07:36from what you are in real life,
07:38what were some of the areas
07:39that you have to consistently work on
07:41to bring out that shadow?
07:41Oh, a lot of things.
07:43I mean,
07:44trust me,
07:45you will need to do a one-on-one
07:47for the amount of work
07:48I have had to put into this part.
07:51But like I said,
07:51I would have not managed
07:52without holding
07:55Shianshi's hand
07:56or Ashish's hand.
07:59Like I said,
08:00we were talking about
08:01and we were talking about
08:03like we were talking about
08:03one time
08:03and we were talking about
08:04people are more aware
08:06more so because of the internet.
08:08Every now and then
08:08you scroll up,
08:09you see a problem
08:10or a lot of things,
08:10you know, it's a block.
08:12In such a scenario,
08:13does it become really difficult
08:15to bond people
08:16given that there is
08:17an overclock situation?
08:18I think
08:20it depends on the scheme
08:22you are selling.
08:23You are selling
08:24what you are selling
08:25and if you crack the right thing,
08:29it will be very easy.
08:31Because you will see
08:32that people are very influential
08:33on social media
08:35when you think
08:37that all the youth
08:39are going to follow
08:40all these things.
08:40Like parties are also coming.
08:41So we are all going
08:43there without knowing
08:44what is their core
08:46where it is coming from.
08:48Okay, my friend is following
08:49this thing
08:49given I am going to do it.
08:51This is because of social media.
08:53What was the first thing?
08:54The first thing
08:55was the first thing
08:55was the first thing
08:56to know
08:56because
08:58I have faced this
09:00and I had started
09:02some of the things
09:02that I had started
09:03very first.
09:04Because
09:06there was no money
09:06before.
09:07I wanted to give money
09:08to give money
09:09to give money
09:09to give money
09:11so we were looking
09:12to get money
09:14and someone
09:14from my locality
09:15came to me
09:16and said
09:16that there is
09:17like this
09:18and
09:20you will get money
09:21here
09:22and you will get money
09:23in the house
09:23and you will get money
09:24like that
09:24you have to talk to people
09:28and say
09:28that
09:29you will get this product
09:31and you will come
09:33and you will get this product
09:34and you will get this product
09:35I got into it
09:36and I still remember
09:37and I still remember
09:38that at that time
09:38I had this phone
09:39Samsung Corby
09:40and after some time
09:42I had to sell my phone
09:44to pay off
09:45some people
09:46to pay off
09:47I have to sell my money
09:48so
09:49before
09:51it was easy
09:52I think
09:53nowadays
09:53if someone
09:54gets a scheme
09:54like this
09:55it is difficult
09:56but
09:57it is very easy
09:58to influence
09:59people in India
10:00because everybody
10:01is looking for a shortcut
10:03and to earn money
10:06a lot of population
10:07more population
10:07is below poverty line
10:08so
10:09you can see
10:10that
10:10people
10:10all
10:11people
10:11all
10:11people
10:13are looking for shortcuts
10:18and
10:18people
10:19are looking for shortcuts
10:21people
10:22have
10:22a dream
10:23spotted
10:23these are the two things
10:25that you have
10:25because
10:26you
10:26are
10:26good
10:29do you think
10:30it is a problem
10:32that
10:33a large section
10:33of people
10:34are surprised
10:34and they don't
10:36make a difference
10:37because
10:37the population
10:39here
10:41here
10:42is
10:43the system
10:43here
10:44here
10:45here
10:45here
10:45here
10:45there
10:46are
10:46who
10:47who
10:49are
10:50who
10:50are
10:51who
10:51are
11:00who
11:01are
11:01who
11:04who
11:05are
11:05It doesn't matter.
11:06It doesn't matter.
11:08It doesn't matter.
11:08There is a whole community in order to be born.
11:11It tells you that everything is wrong.
11:13I want to tell you that the overnight get rich scheme,
11:18whatever you say that you will get so much money from tomorrow or tomorrow,
11:23you will have to kill yourself.
11:25You will have to explain to yourself.
11:28Because if it's so easy,
11:32then the whole world remains.
11:35It doesn't matter.
11:36So the whole scheme is all scams.
11:39You put it, you get it, you get it, you get it, you get it.
11:45You get it every day.
11:46How many scams have happened?
11:50In 2000, there was someone who came to me.
11:52I didn't know this scheme.
11:54He was trying to explain to me.
11:57He was very tempting.
11:58He was a piece of wing.
12:00I feel like he was having my own shame.
12:03But I thought he was being a man.
12:04It was very simple,
12:05he was huge.
12:06But the thing is,
12:08that he was looking for.
12:09and I think he might get married to him.
12:12That's the point of understanding of the process.
12:13So I think it's true.
12:13If you change your attention and understand,
12:15you understand this.
12:15If it's like something that's like this is the same,
12:17then I see it as easy.
12:18If it's like a person you think it's being done with me.
12:26I will tell you about Baba Ji.
12:28The only ones who have such a son, Baba, and a father,
12:31not all, but many people make a bad-fuckoo,
12:34make a bad-fuckoo, make a bad-fuckoo,
12:36go to jail, go to jail.
12:38But even the other ones,
12:39the new-baba is born and the new-baba is born.
12:42So a Baba who has a bad-fuckoo,
12:45he will be my character,
12:50and he will say,
12:51I have a great bad-fuckoo.
12:53And many people follow you,
12:55and if I am thinking about your life,
12:58I have a bad-fuckoo.
13:00Baba Ji said,
13:01this is a very good Shibaad,
13:02and he went there,
13:0425 lakhs,
13:05and he had to pay for it.
13:07After that, Baba Ji told me,
13:09I told him,
13:09I told him,
13:10I told him,
13:10I told him,
13:10I told him,
13:10I told him,
13:11I told him,
13:11I told him,
13:12I told him,
13:12I told him,
13:13I told him,
13:15I told him,
13:21I told him,
13:24I told him,
13:24I told him,
13:25and he told him,
13:27I told him,
13:27I told him,
13:28he said,
13:29You need the same fees.
13:31And he told him,
13:32yet the other pats
13:35If you put the money, it will get upset at the end of the month.
13:39Sir, I have so much money.
13:42Because I want you to get out of it, I will get out of it.
13:47Baba said, if I buy it, I will double it.
13:52Baba, who is in black money, sat in the car.
13:55He asked him for 500 crores.
13:57He was asking for $500 crores.
13:58he would get the investment of his house.
14:03He would have given himself.
14:05He would not go to the police.
14:10The schemes of these schemes are on the different levels.
14:15You see the schemes in these small-scale levels.
14:18You can have to work in a way.
14:21You need to have to work in a way.
14:25You need to work in a way.
14:26or you should start your business or you should start your business.
14:29And all the people watching and my expert learn from this,
14:35don't get fooled by these schemes.
14:36There is always a huge scam.
14:40And I have a question Shriyaj.
14:41Has he mentioned that overnight affluence, things like these,
14:46to get your money up, you need to get your hands dirty.
14:50What are your thoughts on this book?
14:53Yeah, I think this is a very vague statement.
15:00To earn money, you have to get your hands dirty.
15:04I don't think so.
15:06There are many examples in Hindustan, Bahad,
15:12in small cities, in Gali Kaspon
15:15who are struggling with money,
15:18who are struggling with money,
15:19who are struggling with their family.
15:22And also, the country is struggling with money.
15:24So, I think this statement is a very vague statement.
15:26You have to get your hands dirty.
15:28Hands dirty as in, you are struggling with money.
15:31Yes, you are struggling with money.
15:32I think that these schemes operate the way,
15:38that they call people,
15:40in a very big call.
15:43And there are many innocent people,
15:45many people who are not reading,
15:49or who are not reading,
15:50who are not reading,
15:50who are not reading.
15:51When they are reading on stage,
15:55the people who see the news of the day,
16:00or the thought of the day,
16:02they often find something to say.
16:02Even the mother-in-law workshops,
16:05and he is telling him,
16:06what is it happening today?
16:08Has it been in the near future?
16:09Has it been in the near future?
16:10Has it been in the near future?
16:12Has it been in the near future?
16:14Has it been in the near future?
16:16He has no other choice but to believe that person.
16:20I think this is exactly the vulnerability
16:23on which these camps play.
16:25The truth is that my friends, my friends and friends
16:29will check you the reality.
16:30They will say,
16:32no, you will only get one in 100 crores
16:36and you will take a helicopter in 6 months.
16:39If it's true, I mean,
16:41I mean, I mean, I mean,
16:42I mean, I mean, I mean,
16:43I mean, I mean, I mean,
16:44there is a reason to it.
16:48I think,
16:51delayed gratification
16:53is the
16:54best thing you can earn in life
16:57and I feel
16:57that is linked to
17:00if you have to earn money,
17:02yes,
17:04keep working hard,
17:05keep doing what you are doing
17:06and one day it will pay off.
17:09So with that, we have finished the end of this conversation.
17:11Thank you so much for your time.
17:12I wish you all the best for your best thing.
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