00:00Hello everyone, welcome to INS and congratulations for the pyramid scheme that's about to be released on Prime Video.
00:04I'm going to start off by asking with you Param, if you could shed some light on your character, the
00:09world that he comes from.
00:10I'm a CD trigger, very interesting setting, tier 1, tier 2 down I'm assuming.
00:15So what's the world like that he comes from and how does he make his way around this cool pyramid
00:19scheme?
00:20So Golty is a guy who just like every other Indian who wants to earn money.
00:25And looking for a way, but everybody is very fascinated when you see, okay, this is a shortcut to earn
00:32big money.
00:33So he's stuck in his life and he doesn't have any money at home and financially he's not doing great,
00:43very bad.
00:44So finally, he sees someone who has been there and raised to a position.
00:50I think that that was played by Shekar sir. And he's very fascinated with that, how can this be a
00:56little bit less.
00:58And there's a lot of pressure on our family and government pressure.
01:03There's a lot of text on it. It doesn't matter what it does.
01:07And then I think that we're shorting that everybody is not idealist.
01:10Everybody wants to do something from their own way.
01:13And finally, when he gets this scheme that this is a scheme, he couldn't control himself just to go for
01:21this one.
01:22After that, he will see the journey.
01:25And Shekar sir, coming to your character, he's the one who kind of lifts him and other people up from
01:31the world that they live in.
01:34If you could share a brief of your character, his attitude towards people, to make them rich to karti corners.
01:43Yes, one more sense.
01:46So, he leads the show, this whole pyramid scheme.
01:53And nowadays, the schemes of our lives are lost in our lives.
01:56We don't know what kind of schemes are.
01:58Which on the face of it looks very nice and legit.
02:01But it turns out to be something that happened.
02:04And billions of people are choked.
02:06And they're taken for a ride.
02:08They end up trying to take their own rides.
02:10This is the story of the pyramid.
02:12Where people come and create a pyramid.
02:16They make their faith, their dreams, their dreams.
02:18And what kind of pyramid is the pyramid.
02:22The characters can't tell much about them.
02:24Because there are a lot of people in it.
02:27And if you can see them, they will tell them.
02:31And there's a certain charm that's there in your character.
02:34I've seen in the trailer.
02:35So, how did you participate in particular?
02:38I've got a lot of work.
02:39There's no charm.
02:42There's no charm.
02:43There's no charm.
02:43There's no charm.
02:44There's no charm.
02:44No, no.
02:46That's what I'm saying.
02:47That's what I'm saying.
02:48And the first prerequisite is the charm.
02:53You know, everybody gets swayed by the charm.
02:55They're the glip-talkers.
02:56Very, very, very sharp.
02:58They look very intelligent.
03:00Except that their energy is getting anywhere.
03:02People are becoming really smart yet.
03:04There is no charm that's just about it.
03:05Good thinking and stuff like that.
03:06So you put them in the middle of the club.
03:08They go and drive to jail and drive outside.
03:10They do not have just stupid.
03:12It's difficult.
03:12They don't have to take away.
03:13But here is, I've seen a lot of characters like that.
03:16There are a lot of people who left Hindustan and took a lot of tanks and they are very comfortable
03:23and a very good life.
03:25I saw them and listened to them.
03:27The first time they hit the ball, they were playing cricket.
03:33If you listen to them, they are not the character.
03:35I have not heard of this character, and share with regards to the overall data universe of this series, how
03:43close have you seen this series and experienced it and how did you derive from it or drop from it?
03:50I think that, if we look at the last 20 years ago, there are more than 5,000 companies that
04:03have done this.
04:04There are almost more than 1,000,000 people that have done this.
04:10And this is the number that has been reported.
04:13As Mr. told me, the way they show their dreams and you go to the pyramid.
04:21After that, when they fall, they don't have the courage to report a case.
04:30Even if you can tell your family, friends or friends, that it has happened to me.
04:37So the un-reported cases are a lot.
04:41The only thing is that our record director, Ashish and Akshin,
04:49we have researched a lot in detail.
04:53This is a case that was, I think, in 2011.
05:00And we were not able to crack it at the core for a very long time.
05:06And then finally, we talked about it.
05:09But today, we talk about it.
05:10Either that person has seen it directly,
05:15or other people in his family,
05:18like someone's mother, brother, brother,
05:23or mother, or someone else,
05:25or someone else's scheme.
05:29It's a personal experience,
05:31but I don't want to take that name.
05:34I don't want to take that name.
05:37And Ranvi sir,
05:38do you have some experience in this type of thing?
05:42Yes.
05:43I think in my younger days,
05:45when I was in my TV career,
05:50I was doing sound before my TV career.
05:51I was doing sound at that time,
05:52and there was a company
05:53that I was doing sound at one event.
05:56But that's about it.
05:58I'm not as a part of it.
06:01But I have seen such...
06:02Aren't you intrigued by that one?
06:04Because it was quite new back then.
06:06And at that time,
06:07it was not as known as it is now.
06:10At that time,
06:11it seemed like a legit thing,
06:13which is your option.
06:16But now, of course, people are wise.
06:18Yeah.
06:19Yeah.
06:20So for me,
06:21you know,
06:22it was great,
06:24finally,
06:24to be working with EDF first.
06:27Because,
06:28you know,
06:29I consider them as OGs
06:31of original writing in India.
06:34And finally,
06:35I got a chance to work with them,
06:36so I was grateful for that.
06:38And as far as my part is concerned,
06:40I play Manoj Srivastava,
06:45you know,
06:45a good chunk of the population
06:48are the kind of people
06:49who have varied their dreams,
06:51who are the more immediate things
06:54that they need to address in life,
06:56to make a living,
06:57you know,
06:57feeding the family.
06:59And,
07:00so there is that hope
07:02which is kind of bottled up inside.
07:05And,
07:06so I play the character
07:08whose that hope gets
07:12hooked into this scheme.
07:15And it was a great part,
07:16it was very flattering for me
07:19that, you know,
07:19they offered me this part.
07:22And the only way I have managed
07:24to do this part is,
07:25I think,
07:25because of
07:27Shiraymanj and Ashish.
07:30Otherwise,
07:31I probably could have managed
07:32to play this part,
07:33it's so different from myself.
07:35And given that's different
07:36from what you are in real life,
07:38what were some of the areas
07:39that you have to consistently work on
07:41to bring out that shadow?
07:41Oh, a lot of things.
07:43I mean,
07:44trust me,
07:45you will need to do a one-on-one
07:47for the amount of work
07:48I have had to put into this part.
07:51But like I said,
07:51I would have not managed
07:52without holding
07:55Shianshi's hand
07:56or Ashish's hand.
07:59Like I said,
08:00we were talking about
08:01and we were talking about
08:03like we were talking about
08:03one time
08:03and we were talking about
08:04people are more aware
08:06more so because of the internet.
08:08Every now and then
08:08you scroll up,
08:09you see a problem
08:10or a lot of things,
08:10you know, it's a block.
08:12In such a scenario,
08:13does it become really difficult
08:15to bond people
08:16given that there is
08:17an overclock situation?
08:18I think
08:20it depends on the scheme
08:22you are selling.
08:23You are selling
08:24what you are selling
08:25and if you crack the right thing,
08:29it will be very easy.
08:31Because you will see
08:32that people are very influential
08:33on social media
08:35when you think
08:37that all the youth
08:39are going to follow
08:40all these things.
08:40Like parties are also coming.
08:41So we are all going
08:43there without knowing
08:44what is their core
08:46where it is coming from.
08:48Okay, my friend is following
08:49this thing
08:49given I am going to do it.
08:51This is because of social media.
08:53What was the first thing?
08:54The first thing
08:55was the first thing
08:55was the first thing
08:56to know
08:56because
08:58I have faced this
09:00and I had started
09:02some of the things
09:02that I had started
09:03very first.
09:04Because
09:06there was no money
09:06before.
09:07I wanted to give money
09:08to give money
09:09to give money
09:09to give money
09:11so we were looking
09:12to get money
09:14and someone
09:14from my locality
09:15came to me
09:16and said
09:16that there is
09:17like this
09:18and
09:20you will get money
09:21here
09:22and you will get money
09:23in the house
09:23and you will get money
09:24like that
09:24you have to talk to people
09:28and say
09:28that
09:29you will get this product
09:31and you will come
09:33and you will get this product
09:34and you will get this product
09:35I got into it
09:36and I still remember
09:37and I still remember
09:38that at that time
09:38I had this phone
09:39Samsung Corby
09:40and after some time
09:42I had to sell my phone
09:44to pay off
09:45some people
09:46to pay off
09:47I have to sell my money
09:48so
09:49before
09:51it was easy
09:52I think
09:53nowadays
09:53if someone
09:54gets a scheme
09:54like this
09:55it is difficult
09:56but
09:57it is very easy
09:58to influence
09:59people in India
10:00because everybody
10:01is looking for a shortcut
10:03and to earn money
10:06a lot of population
10:07more population
10:07is below poverty line
10:08so
10:09you can see
10:10that
10:10people
10:10all
10:11people
10:11all
10:11people
10:13are looking for shortcuts
10:18and
10:18people
10:19are looking for shortcuts
10:21people
10:22have
10:22a dream
10:23spotted
10:23these are the two things
10:25that you have
10:25because
10:26you
10:26are
10:26good
10:29do you think
10:30it is a problem
10:32that
10:33a large section
10:33of people
10:34are surprised
10:34and they don't
10:36make a difference
10:37because
10:37the population
10:39here
10:41here
10:42is
10:43the system
10:43here
10:44here
10:45here
10:45here
10:45here
10:45there
10:46are
10:46who
10:47who
10:49are
10:50who
10:50are
10:51who
10:51are
11:00who
11:01are
11:01who
11:04who
11:05are
11:05It doesn't matter.
11:06It doesn't matter.
11:08It doesn't matter.
11:08There is a whole community in order to be born.
11:11It tells you that everything is wrong.
11:13I want to tell you that the overnight get rich scheme,
11:18whatever you say that you will get so much money from tomorrow or tomorrow,
11:23you will have to kill yourself.
11:25You will have to explain to yourself.
11:28Because if it's so easy,
11:32then the whole world remains.
11:35It doesn't matter.
11:36So the whole scheme is all scams.
11:39You put it, you get it, you get it, you get it, you get it.
11:45You get it every day.
11:46How many scams have happened?
11:50In 2000, there was someone who came to me.
11:52I didn't know this scheme.
11:54He was trying to explain to me.
11:57He was very tempting.
11:58He was a piece of wing.
12:00I feel like he was having my own shame.
12:03But I thought he was being a man.
12:04It was very simple,
12:05he was huge.
12:06But the thing is,
12:08that he was looking for.
12:09and I think he might get married to him.
12:12That's the point of understanding of the process.
12:13So I think it's true.
12:13If you change your attention and understand,
12:15you understand this.
12:15If it's like something that's like this is the same,
12:17then I see it as easy.
12:18If it's like a person you think it's being done with me.
12:26I will tell you about Baba Ji.
12:28The only ones who have such a son, Baba, and a father,
12:31not all, but many people make a bad-fuckoo,
12:34make a bad-fuckoo, make a bad-fuckoo,
12:36go to jail, go to jail.
12:38But even the other ones,
12:39the new-baba is born and the new-baba is born.
12:42So a Baba who has a bad-fuckoo,
12:45he will be my character,
12:50and he will say,
12:51I have a great bad-fuckoo.
12:53And many people follow you,
12:55and if I am thinking about your life,
12:58I have a bad-fuckoo.
13:00Baba Ji said,
13:01this is a very good Shibaad,
13:02and he went there,
13:0425 lakhs,
13:05and he had to pay for it.
13:07After that, Baba Ji told me,
13:09I told him,
13:09I told him,
13:10I told him,
13:10I told him,
13:10I told him,
13:10I told him,
13:11I told him,
13:11I told him,
13:12I told him,
13:12I told him,
13:13I told him,
13:15I told him,
13:21I told him,
13:24I told him,
13:24I told him,
13:25and he told him,
13:27I told him,
13:27I told him,
13:28he said,
13:29You need the same fees.
13:31And he told him,
13:32yet the other pats
13:35If you put the money, it will get upset at the end of the month.
13:39Sir, I have so much money.
13:42Because I want you to get out of it, I will get out of it.
13:47Baba said, if I buy it, I will double it.
13:52Baba, who is in black money, sat in the car.
13:55He asked him for 500 crores.
13:57He was asking for $500 crores.
13:58he would get the investment of his house.
14:03He would have given himself.
14:05He would not go to the police.
14:10The schemes of these schemes are on the different levels.
14:15You see the schemes in these small-scale levels.
14:18You can have to work in a way.
14:21You need to have to work in a way.
14:25You need to work in a way.
14:26or you should start your business or you should start your business.
14:29And all the people watching and my expert learn from this,
14:35don't get fooled by these schemes.
14:36There is always a huge scam.
14:40And I have a question Shriyaj.
14:41Has he mentioned that overnight affluence, things like these,
14:46to get your money up, you need to get your hands dirty.
14:50What are your thoughts on this book?
14:53Yeah, I think this is a very vague statement.
15:00To earn money, you have to get your hands dirty.
15:04I don't think so.
15:06There are many examples in Hindustan, Bahad,
15:12in small cities, in Gali Kaspon
15:15who are struggling with money,
15:18who are struggling with money,
15:19who are struggling with their family.
15:22And also, the country is struggling with money.
15:24So, I think this statement is a very vague statement.
15:26You have to get your hands dirty.
15:28Hands dirty as in, you are struggling with money.
15:31Yes, you are struggling with money.
15:32I think that these schemes operate the way,
15:38that they call people,
15:40in a very big call.
15:43And there are many innocent people,
15:45many people who are not reading,
15:49or who are not reading,
15:50who are not reading,
15:50who are not reading.
15:51When they are reading on stage,
15:55the people who see the news of the day,
16:00or the thought of the day,
16:02they often find something to say.
16:02Even the mother-in-law workshops,
16:05and he is telling him,
16:06what is it happening today?
16:08Has it been in the near future?
16:09Has it been in the near future?
16:10Has it been in the near future?
16:12Has it been in the near future?
16:14Has it been in the near future?
16:16He has no other choice but to believe that person.
16:20I think this is exactly the vulnerability
16:23on which these camps play.
16:25The truth is that my friends, my friends and friends
16:29will check you the reality.
16:30They will say,
16:32no, you will only get one in 100 crores
16:36and you will take a helicopter in 6 months.
16:39If it's true, I mean,
16:41I mean, I mean, I mean,
16:42I mean, I mean, I mean,
16:43I mean, I mean, I mean,
16:44there is a reason to it.
16:48I think,
16:51delayed gratification
16:53is the
16:54best thing you can earn in life
16:57and I feel
16:57that is linked to
17:00if you have to earn money,
17:02yes,
17:04keep working hard,
17:05keep doing what you are doing
17:06and one day it will pay off.
17:09So with that, we have finished the end of this conversation.
17:11Thank you so much for your time.
17:12I wish you all the best for your best thing.
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