00:00When I was a young guy, I used to watch Lifestyle...
00:01Remember that show Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous?
00:03Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous!
00:04With Robin Leach!
00:05And I was cutting tobacco for $3 an hour,
00:08and I'd hear some famous actor complain about their life,
00:11and I'd be like, fuck you, I'm cutting tobacco for...
00:13So I don't find any reason to complain about...
00:17You know, I caught that brass ring.
00:18I got very lucky in my career and in my life,
00:21and the chance to work with these people.
00:23Would I choose it again?
00:24Yeah, you know, fame is a funny thing,
00:26because fame offers you the opportunity
00:28to be able to do the kind of projects you want to do.
00:30But you run towards it like a bug light,
00:33and then when you get there, you really get zapped.
00:35You're like, holy shit, you know?
00:36There's a lot of other pieces that come into play.
00:39But the truth is, what fame has afforded me
00:42is the ability to work on projects like this.
00:45You know, I'm 64 years old.
00:46These parts don't come around very often.
00:48I feel very lucky just to be able to get that opportunity.
00:52And so if fame has afforded me some of that,
00:55then that's been an extraordinary experience for me.
00:57And the rest of it, you know, there are things
00:59that you can't do, and there's things that are limiting.
01:01You know, it's a lot worse cutting tobacco, you know?
01:05I like when Jay's trying to justify his life,
01:08and he says it had to mean something,
01:11and she says, what if it didn't?
01:13And it's a big sort of shock.
01:14But there are a bunch of lines like that.
01:15I mean, honestly, you know, when you're reading the script,
01:17the whole time you're reading it, you're going,
01:19oh, man, I hope I get to say that one.
01:20What about that last line?
01:21How many takes did you do of that?
01:23Well, that's the first take.
01:24But we did a few more after.
01:27That was the first take.
01:28We put a pin in that before we shot it
01:30because we knew that was a scene
01:31we all had to stick the landing on.
01:34Now, I want to say that I didn't know
01:35he was going to use actual clips of my fucking life.
01:41So when you see me, like, grabbing Adam's hand like this,
01:44that was very real.
01:45Because I'm like, oh, my,
01:47I thought there was going to be some CGI version of, you know,
01:50The Irishman or something where I'm, like, all young and handsome.
01:55And that was a big surprise.
01:56But that last line and that last scene going back there
02:00and doing that, that was an exciting moment for us
02:04because we knew what our job was for that day.
02:07And it was really important to not mess it up.
02:10I've made a lot of movies about people
02:12who define themselves in the sense by
02:14that they weren't the people they thought they might be, you know,
02:17and feeling a sense of failure, whether they were failures or not.
02:21I think they felt because they didn't achieve
02:23some unrealistic goal in their lives
02:25that they somehow had failed.
02:28And what that does, of course,
02:29is that prevents you from confronting yourself
02:32or even understanding who you might actually be.
02:35It's actually the same story in success, you know,
02:37that success becomes its own barrier between you and you.
02:40And we all have that gap between who we present as,
02:45who we've decided we are.
02:46do I like cheesecake, do I not, you know.
02:50And who we might actually be.
02:52You know, maybe I do like cheesecake.
02:54For me, it was a profound question.
02:56Oh, actually, George, do you like cheesecake?
02:58I do like cheesecake.
02:59I'm a big fan of cheesecake.
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