00:00Now, you've opened up about having this, it's called IBM, correct?
00:04Mm-hmm.
00:05And what for you are the, I mean, it's kind of heartbreaking.
00:09That's when you, to me, like there's no God.
00:12Like you're this guitarist who's played every day for 60 years
00:16and now can you play guitar at all still or is it very difficult?
00:19Oh, yes.
00:20No, no.
00:20I mean, the thing is if you look at it, over the last year I've made
00:25a documentary and an album and an album and a half actually.
00:30So, yes, I'm doing okay.
00:33But things are changing.
00:35It's progressing.
00:36But my outlook on it is that's life.
00:41You know, I've been so lucky.
00:45I've had an up and down career, but in the long run I look at everything,
00:50look at the last 60 years and go, wow, I'm the luckiest guy alive.
00:55Right.
00:55You know, so it's, I'm, the big things don't bother me.
01:01They probably should more, but I'm a very positive person.
01:04That I got from my parents, I think, and my brother's the same.
01:09And so, yes, I know the end game, you know, but it doesn't bother me.
01:16I've learned to change my life.
01:18It's not a life ending and work with it.
01:23And to be honest, having to change the way I play a little bit now and again as it progresses
01:30is a challenge.
01:31And I've always, I'm always up for a challenge.
01:33So.
01:34Has it changed your outlook in terms of like empathy or?
01:38Oh, my God.
01:40Yes.
01:40I've been doing, for the last couple of years when we did three week tours, two or three
01:47a year.
01:49At the very end, I would get up from my chair and go up to the mic and then I
01:55would talk
01:56to the audience.
01:56And I said that the one thing that it makes, made me realize is that I am fighting a battle.
02:05But so are all of you, you know, out there.
02:09Everyone fights a battle every day, whether it's their own, their spouses, their children,
02:15their relatives, their friends at work, whatever it is, everybody's going through something.
02:21And it just made me realize that kindness is the most important thing, because when you
02:29meet someone that you know or you don't know, you have no idea what's going on in their life
02:35or in their body or whatever.
02:37So I just decided that I'm going to, I'm just going to concentrate on kindness.
02:44It is wild that your dad taught art to David Bowie and you were like teenage friends with
02:50him.
02:50It's just, you can't make it up.
02:52It's just perfect.
02:53No, no, you can't.
02:55It's just one of those things that I just accept the fact that that happened.
03:02I mean, I remember the first day when I went, I wasn't at the school yet.
03:05I was going to be there the next year, the high school.
03:08And I went to the, I went to the school and, and on a Saturday, there was a fair raising
03:17money for, you know, pencils and, uh, as we say over there, rubbers.
03:24I'm an astrayer.
03:26Um, and there was a band playing on the stage and I, I, I'd heard it was the Conrads with
03:33a K and, um, and I just walked with my dad and mom and I was just going, I said,
03:39wow,
03:39dad, what's the, what's, who's that on the end?
03:41The guy playing the sax singing is, I said, he's phenomenal.
03:45I mean, and I must've been 12, 13, maybe.
03:49And, um, he said, oh, that's Jones.
03:53He's very creative.
03:55Um, and then from that point on, I went to the school the next year and at first lunchtime,
04:03I made a beeline for Dave and we've been friends ever since.
04:07You have this enormous success and then you, no one can recreate that success or even come
04:13near to it.
04:13So, you know, that's a hard bump, right?
04:17So like, do you cushion that bump?
04:20Like I would have like, well, you know, there was when it, when it got to the, it was okay
04:27when it was number one, I know.
04:30Okay.
04:30It was fabulous.
04:31It was unbelievable.
04:33It was number one in all of them.
04:35Um, there were like three or four trades back then.
04:38And, um, but when my manager called me and said, you've broken, um, Carol King's tapestry
04:45record, which, um, was, I believe 6.6 million in the U S and Canada.
04:51He said, you are now the biggest selling record of all time.
04:54Um, that's when things started going wrong for me because how I, that was so scary.
05:03That was when, you know, it was, uh, I'm realized that what do they want?
05:10And I started not becoming the artist when it's, what do I want to do?
05:14It was like, okay, I've got to, how do I follow this up?
05:19It's a live record.
05:20It wouldn't, so I was panicking at that point.
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