00:00वो बैकिंड शशषी तरूर प्रवर गॉरी तरूरी सुझा गांधी?
00:17ु वीर भी बार व्राइ व्राफुट को नेजरी वाड़ जान है वी वीज्ट आपकर वाद्ट व्हाट इह तो एज्यू है
00:25व्हार वाट वाट वाट व्हार्टान।
00:28पुर बाल्ड हाए वाट व्हार वराफ लूट्व्ट
00:30350 million dollars for a team, a consortium, that is the Kochi consortium,
00:34whereas 75% of the shareholders are paying 100% of the cost, number one.
00:39And that's why that's the pressure is getting 25% free equity, number two.
00:44Number three, that those people are paying, as an example,
00:47you're paying 350 million dollars over 10 years, right, as an example.
00:51So you're paying 35 million dollars a year.
00:53If the company is paying 35 million dollars a year, one shareholder has got 25% free
01:00and not contributing, the others are contributing 35 crores and the loss is 25 crores, okay,
01:07they have to pay the 25 crores, next year they have to put more,
01:11and they can't afford to, her shareholding keeps going up,
01:14then every dollar that comes in, in revenue, she's getting 15% of the money.
01:19That means for her 10 rupee share, on the day she got the team, is worth 1 lakh rupees.
01:26Their 10 rupee share is worth 1 paisa.
01:29So why? I knew this is going to collapse.
01:31And I said it that day it's going to collapse.
01:33And what happened? Two years down the line, it collapsed.
01:36Did you speak to the other members of the team before you decided on this?
01:40Of course, there was a meeting that would take place.
01:42And they all agreed with you?
01:43No, they didn't. They all agreed in the beginning.
01:45Then there was a diktat put down, and when Shashi Tharoor,
01:49I'll tell you what happened, to tell you the truth.
01:52I did not sign the agreement, because I wanted to meet every member of the consortium.
01:58The meeting took place in Bangalore.
02:00It was at, I forget, just after a match.
02:04All the shareholders were there, except for a lady by Suranda Pushkarra.
02:07I'm looking at this agreement, and by the way, I had no idea who she was.
02:10I had no idea who she was, okay?
02:13I didn't know what the names were.
02:15I'm asking these consortium members,
02:17you're giving away 25% shares to a lady called Suranda Pushkarra, who is she?
02:21And you're giving her 15% of the revenue, who is she?
02:25One guy says she's an automobile dealer's child.
02:28She's a very famous marketing person in India.
02:30I said, hello, I'm a marketing person in India.
02:32I don't know who she is.
02:34Then I said, I'm not going to sign this agreement
02:38till I know who Suranda Pushkarra is.
02:40The minute I said this, somebody's texting out there, right?
02:43I get a call from Shashi Tharoor on the phone.
02:45And I saw the speaker phone.
02:48And he says, Lalit, don't ask about Suranda Pushkarra.
02:50He was a good friend of mine.
02:51Don't ask about Suranda Pushkarra.
02:53I said, why?
02:54He said, if you do, I'll have you raided in the morning.
02:57I said, screw you.
02:59What, sorry for the language.
03:01And who the hell do you think you are?
03:03You may be the foreign minister of India.
03:05Don't you dare ever tell me this.
03:06And I banged on the phone.
03:07And I said, I will not sign it.
03:09Hell broke loose.
03:11It's 2 o'clock in the morning.
03:13Then I get a call.
03:14You can verify this from Shashank Manor.
03:18As president of BCGI, who never interfered.
03:21Very nice man.
03:22Never interfered.
03:23I said, Lalit, you will sign this agreement today.
03:27I said, Shashank, why do I need to sign it today?
03:29I will take off in the morning.
03:32I'll come to Nagpur and see you.
03:33We can talk about it tomorrow morning.
03:35And then we can sign it.
03:35No, you will sign it now.
03:38Now, I never defy authority.
03:40I was under Shashank.
03:42I was vice president.
03:42He was president.
03:44Nobody interfered in the work of IPL.
03:46When he said that, I said, Shashank, I will sign this agreement under duress.
03:51And I will point out that the president is forcing me to sign the agreement.
03:55And I will note it on the agreement that.
03:58And I did note it.
03:59And I signed the agreement under duress.
04:02I didn't know what the reason was.
04:04He didn't want to talk about it.
04:05He was blunt and to the point.
04:08And I accepted it.
04:09I could have said, no, I won't sign it.
04:11You sign it if you want to.
04:13And walk away.
04:14But I didn't.
04:15I respected authority.
04:17I could have very well done the end of the mistake of mine not to do that, actually.
04:21Today, if I look back in hindsight.
04:22And I signed it.
04:24I picked in.
04:25Why did I have to sign it?
04:27I get up in the morning.
04:29Every newspaper.
04:32Front page.
04:33Suranda Pushkar getting to Shashitagar.
04:38Now I knew why I had to sign it.
04:42Can you?
04:43And the best part is this.
04:44BCCI lawyers are there.
04:46Everybody is there.
04:47They take their copy of the agreement and go.
04:50I could have torn it up after I signed it too.
04:53Right?
04:54So it was orchestrated.
04:55As far as I am concerned.
04:57Okay.
04:58Then I felt completely betrayed.
05:01A fast run has been pulled on me.
05:03That I have been asked to sign the agreement at 2 o'clock in the night.
05:07But I could have signed it the next day.
05:08And if I waited for the next day, Suranda Pushkar getting married to Shashitagar would have been out already in
05:14the papers.
05:15In every newspaper it was already out.
05:17I was foolish enough because I was so busy with my game.
05:19And that story didn't come out.
05:21And so that team would never have been signed in the first place.
05:24If I had waited for another eight hours.
05:28Not even eight hours.
05:29Probably it was already in press.
05:31It was already in print at 2 o'clock in the morning.
05:33But I didn't have the knowledge with me.
05:35When I didn't have the knowledge with me.
05:37If I had that knowledge with me.
05:38Under no circumstances I would have allowed that team to be signed at that time.
05:43And I said it's a fraud.
05:45And do you know when Sunanda died?
05:47Yeah that Twitter feed that.
05:49That morning.
05:50Sunanda was communicating with me on Twitter.
05:52I saw that.
05:53And she said.
05:55Should I disclose?
05:55I said go ahead and disclose.
05:57I have no angst against.
05:58These were open tweets between you and her.
06:00Open in the world.
06:02And next I know she's dead.
06:05What are you insinuating?
06:06I'm not insinuating.
06:07I don't know the truth.
06:08So I can't insinuate.
06:09Have you spoken to her ever?
06:11No.
06:11Never.
06:12Never.
06:13That's the best part.
06:14It's only that Twitter.
06:15Yes that is it.
06:16Even when she made the bid.
06:18There was no interaction between.
06:20None.
06:20Shashi only.
06:22And the guy called Joseph.
06:23His secretary.
06:24Yeah.
06:24Did you ever speak with Shashi Tharoor after this incident?
06:29After that incident.
06:30Have you been in touch with him?
06:31No.
06:32I haven't been in touch with him.
06:33Ever.
06:33Since that day.
06:35After that it became.
06:38Lalit Modi versus.
06:39Have you met with Chidambaram ever?
06:41Of course I met with Chidambaram.
06:42He used to be my lawyer.
06:44What's wrong with you?
06:44He was the Modi family lawyer for a year.
06:46No what I mean is after this incident happened with you.
06:49As when he was home minister.
06:51He went after me.
06:52You got to understand.
06:53It's a brother.
06:53You know that.
06:54I know that.
06:55You live in that country.
06:56You attack one.
06:57They all gang up against you.
06:59And you attack somebody at that top level.
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