00:00No!
00:01No!
00:12Together, we survive.
00:17Light it up.
00:30You started off, I think, studying psychology a little bit, didn't you?
00:34Yeah, I did.
00:36Yeah.
00:36I mean, but the psychology of a sniper and the psychology of most of the characters you play requires a
00:42certain approach.
00:43This is almost even more sort of severe and down under with that, to use a pun.
00:49Could you talk about getting into Voodoo Child's head for what you needed to do in this?
00:55Having been tracking this for so long, you would appreciate this.
01:00It took me till this point in my life to get the gun, right?
01:07I've done a lot of running and screaming and, you know, had a couple of shots here and there.
01:12But I don't think, well, no, maybe once or twice.
01:16And that's sort of symbolic, really, of anything.
01:21But on a psychological level, it was, you know, it was very interesting to sort of approach these characters.
01:33Because when you meet the real people, very charming, very, you know, living regular lives, very sweet even.
01:44And then you kind of realize, wow, this person's killed a number of people.
01:49And I just couldn't see that as part of my own psychology, because often these things are an exploration of
01:55self on some level.
01:57We try to make them that, you know, it's an interesting opportunity to kind of look at how you think,
02:03go into your feelings.
02:05And I just couldn't see it. I was like, I'm definitely pacifist.
02:08There's just like no way I could, I could ever do this.
02:14You're gonna have you.
02:15I could never do this.
02:28It's too much.
02:40he's coming along with the dragon and then as we sort of got into the filming and got into the
02:47story more and you know even seeing that movie seven uh samurai um affected me profoundly in
02:57terms of there is a there is a heroism um in protecting those who are defenseless and
03:06sometimes it's inevitable that this has to happen um and so those that are willing to bear the burden
03:15and the consequence of that you know that that's not something to be taken lightly a lot of respect
03:21for that um but you know the people that i did speak with some of them had a kind of
03:28a nihilistic
03:29perspective because you know when you get into the actual act of killing a human being i don't know
03:36what morality you can sort of stand behind you know it's kind of transgressions a total loss of
03:42innocence um and you hope that you can apply meaning to that other than a paycheck
03:50mom what's going on there's a man out there looking for revenge for something that happened
03:57a long time ago you weren't a medic were you i'm the ex-sniper's our team
04:07these people are here to help all ex-military good to go
04:12one of us is going to be dead then we'll know the dragon has arrived
04:19one of the guys i spoke with he said you know i don't really believe that there was ever
04:23a right or a wrong side that i was on but i never took an order that i couldn't live
04:30with
04:30um so that was a personal choice and i don't know how that works in a professional sense but
04:37you have to be able to live with yourself um so you know pretty dark subject matter to seriously
04:43contemplate outside of just the entertainment factor of you know a movie that's supposed to
04:49kind of capture your attention um give you an adrenaline rush and sort of give you some kind
04:56of satisfaction at the end um when you really contemplate what we were discussing you know it
05:02sort of occurred to me after my first meeting with with um this soldier was like whoa this is just
05:10really heavy material um in terms of this guy's life you know and what he's got to wake up to
05:16in his own
05:17mind every day um and so you you live with that and i think you know chris has sort of
05:24she lives with
05:25that and and that's the meaning there is that you know if you are protecting others you know that
05:33that's that is an incredible service
05:35so
05:39so
05:46so
05:50so
05:53so
06:02so
06:11so
06:36you said protection and what's interesting is that the strategy of protection
06:42protection uh is different for everybody and how what they're trying to protect
06:47the loyalty the team or the asset if you're dealing with certain things like that i i think
06:53there's the energy of of of of the circumstance and the stakes and that's one thing you know
07:00then there's the heat you know which was really difficult to act in but fantastic for
07:06storytelling because it looked real like we were really under stress we were really in an
07:11environment that was challenging you know there was something to confront outside of you know
07:16just the you know what the plot the plot we were in a real environment um and you know this
07:23this is all imaginary so it's got to look intense it's got to feel like there's something at stake and
07:28when that goes away the thing kind of falls down so you have to keep that keep that feeling
07:35um so that i think was just to do with the energy of the situation and in terms of
07:40uh how familiar we were with the moves
07:44um we were somewhat familiar we had some training but we had somebody professional on set
07:50who would guide us and would be like move like this you know do this um and until we felt
07:57confident to
07:57sort of do what we wanted we would take advice there because you didn't really want to kind of
08:02make a movie about snipers that looked like kids with pistols like it had to
08:06have a reality check there you've got 10 seconds to tell me who you are mr ellipser
08:18seven seconds
08:21five seconds five seconds and another one for the bullet to pass through your body
08:31who are you
09:10operating the excavator you know like that those different things that's interesting because
09:16the house where we were shooting it was the house of a prison warden a woman
09:21and uh she was a real prison warden and she was a tough lady and she was like she showed
09:28me how to
09:28drive the tractor and and having her there was really interesting because you know um there's
09:35different ideas of what a woman is and having this particular kind of a woman there was great because i
09:41was
09:42like oh yeah uh that deserves a voice like this kind of this kind of a woman and i think
09:49that's sort
09:49of what's original in the storytelling is this chris is is sort of like not your glamorized
09:55woman at all she's like very her own self she's not there to impress anybody uh she's certainly not
10:03there to impress the male gaze she's just like a person doing her best uh to to do what she's
10:11you know
10:11kind of designed her life around doing to protect her a child
10:18it's her it's her okay we've got a 15 year old still out there somewhere do not engage until
10:25subject is verified roger she's 16 it's her birthday
10:31good hunting kv cover the front do you hold your fire she's a friendly confirmed copy
10:39i'm gonna put one in the tree make her get down relay
10:43all positions hold probing fire from my position say again probing fire only send it
11:00without giving too much away there's such a dark family dynamic in certain ways
11:06in how everybody has to interrelate but it has to come back down to you and your daughter but even
11:12that's very very complicated and yet you're getting you're able to sort of show those different layers
11:18different scenes like i think at the tent camp there's so much not said yeah silence you know
11:25yeah that that was an interesting scene and i you know there was a different cut of it as well
11:30i think
11:30at one point um but in a way ultimately you can get into the deep psychology of it but there's
11:39a
11:39resonance with the silence because if you know the circumstance kind of the less said the better in a
11:45way um i don't know why that is but there just seems to be more truth in not the not
11:53the blabbing
11:53you know just the feeling it's the being and in that case you know kind of the revelation of it
11:59you
11:59know some truth that was coming that hadn't been spoken um and yet there's more to it that still isn't
12:05spoken um and it's so interesting i think a lot of us are buried in secrets that we may not
12:14even be
12:15aware of you know there's family sagas that go on for generations there's all kinds of things that
12:21uh aren't spoken about and they direct our lives a lot of these secrets um it's very interesting
12:39i'm nico
12:49that was your mom telling you to stay down there's gonna be somebody over there who's gonna come
12:54here and grab you but you gotta stay low yeah okay this is a bad place now it's not somewhere
12:59for you
13:00to be just stick by your mom no matter what you see okay stay here
13:15you know you're speaking about truth truth is in the eye that be colder but it's also due to
13:21environment as you said you know these things can go on for generations having lived through and done
13:28this film in that heat on that farm in that environment with these actors i think i think
13:34i understand her i i felt like at the end i mean firstly to the cast what an amazing cast
13:40um and the film was was blessed with with all the actors um but to chris i felt like at
13:49the end of
13:49that film and this would not bode well for a sequel that she put that weapon down and and that
13:56was it
13:57never again you know um because that in itself was a kind of a crucible you know this whole thing
14:06you
14:06know i'm gonna protect the child you know and then i've got to be a killer and i don't think
14:11she that i
14:11don't think that sat well with her i think it was a skill but i don't think she ever sits
14:18comfortably
14:18with that and it would be a great relief to never do it again however you know it's instinct and
14:25if
14:26she needs to you know you can see how quickly she comes to action
14:36stick by your mom
14:43why are you doing this
14:47to claim what's mine
14:50you
14:55you
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