00:00No!
00:00No!
00:06No!
00:07No!
00:09No!
00:10No!
00:11Wipe everything now!
00:12Do you know what they do to people like me in jail?
00:17No!
00:17Do not let them in!
00:21Now I'm offering you a lifeline.
00:24Help me!
00:24You know I'd never rat on you.
00:29You can spend millions on security, but at the end of the day, people are stupid.
00:39You know, the thing is, having watched the Screen Life thing,
00:42I remember when the first one came out, it's evolved so much in the storytelling,
00:46but it also must be very schizophrenic in certain ways to act
00:51because you're doing things within things.
00:53Can you both talk about that because Sid and Kyle are two completely different people
00:58and yet they have to interact in the way you guys do.
01:01I know it's second nature as digital natives, but can you talk about acting that?
01:06Yeah, that's a great question actually, because it's a lot more technical than I realized it would be.
01:19Especially, especially like from Kyle's perspective, I remember like the first take we did of the first scene that we
01:25filmed,
01:25which is the part where we're playing Minecraft and then Kyle's like, no, we could actually do this.
01:31I remember like the first note I got from Ronan after we finished the take was like, okay,
01:36so this whole movie is taking place from your from Kyle's desktop.
01:42So as you're speaking to them, as you're saying this stuff, you know, like, oh, we know where he eats,
01:48where he's all this sort of stuff. You're going and you're looking at all of this stuff, too.
01:53So then you have to like sort of pick your moments of when you're looking at the group.
01:58And then when you're sort of, you know, going around on the screen and obviously you're just, you know,
02:02not able to actually pull up any windows or anything.
02:07And so that was that was a lot like that was very that was it felt very scary.
02:12Like after that first day, oh, my gosh, how are we going to tell a whole movie in this format?
02:18But then it sort of as sort of it went on, I feel like you sort of adjust to it
02:22and you and you get a bit more comfortable.
02:24I think. Yeah, all the rooms were sort of next to each other, but like off of off a set,
02:30we ate lunch together.
02:31You know, we we were in makeup together, you know, stuff like that.
02:34So, yeah, other than sort of, I guess, the actual filming, it was a real conventional set.
02:41Let's do this!
02:48You have no idea who you were stealing from.
02:51Your character, I don't want to give too much away, but she is the linchpin.
02:54But yet there's so many different things going on in her head, you know, both that she's right about.
03:00But then maybe there's questionable morality about, you know, could you sort of talk about finding sort of the cadence
03:07of her?
03:07Because you find it in certain ways.
03:09Yeah, I think like it's it's interesting.
03:12I think it's probably the only character I play that, you know, most most of the time you you go
03:17in never like you go in not not you're not supposed to judge your characters.
03:23Right. You're supposed to be like this is a person that I'm going to inhabit.
03:27Like I completely judged her.
03:30I did because she's the type of person that I would never want to be.
03:34Not only is she like so ridiculously privileged and she actually uses that privilege for like worse for like perpetuating
03:44bullshit essentially on social media for like young woman, young women to consume and things like that.
03:51And and she's a narcissist, you know, it's hard not to go in and like not judge her.
03:56But I think she's written in that way by Roman and hope in order to satirize people like that and
04:04on.
04:05And also like, you know, to hold to hold a microscope up to privileged people in that way.
04:11And like she's kind of like the light relief and humor.
04:15I think that's the way I saw anyway, it was like it was about playing her as real as possible
04:20so that we kind of see the humor and the ridiculousness of shallow and kind of narcissists, you know, the
04:28online where it was on the surface.
04:30It looks all manicured and kind of perfect and beneath its kind of poison.
04:37And I wanted to do that in a way that wasn't like too annoying and to kind of, you know,
04:44you see kind of like you like her because she's so out there and ridiculous in her morals and in
04:50the way she acts and how calculated she is.
04:53And I wanted that to be fun in a way, I suppose.
04:57She posts everything. Look, where they live, where they eat, her mother's maiden name, her first pet's name.
05:07To my baby.
05:09That is the ugliest dog I've ever seen.
05:13Date above, place above. We don't even need her for half.
05:16Yeah, yeah. All very impressive.
05:17You could maybe get through a few password security questions, but it's still nothing.
05:22No, no. It won't be for nothing if we get his phone number and email.
05:25Where would we even start?
05:27We start here.
05:28As we can all see from Lindsay's thought-provoking profile, she's gone down the eclectic career of being a model,
05:34influencer, and founder of Loom.
05:35Yeah, yeah, yeah. Also known as that. I live on daddy's money package career.
05:39Right?
05:39Does that have to do with just the natural ambition, just wanting to go farther with some of these guys
05:45since you guys probably interacted with a couple of them to understand why people do what they do?
05:51Yeah, I think it's always like, that's really the hard thing about these hackers, because it's like, what's the motivation?
05:56Like, you know, and the motivation is always like, what's the motivation? It was just for the fun.
06:00But usually there is a reason that people live online and they usually have something, you know, if you're spending
06:06all that time on these servers, having these online friends, they usually have something in reality that you're kind of
06:11hiding from.
06:11So that was a really fun kind of element to try and squeeze out of people and squeeze out of
06:17like our characters of like why they're in these spaces.
06:20And like we started writing it during lockdown, which is a very online period of everyone's life.
06:26So, you know, it's a weird one, like there's lots of great things. I've got like a massive nostalgia towards
06:30gaming. I love like the nights I spent with my friends and like I had real friends in those spaces.
06:35But there also is this other element of having to grow up and the coming of age elements, which is
06:40like a big part of this film and was like a cathartic feeling for me.
06:43Well, because, you know, these are very smart, clever lads, but there it's also it plays like a game.
06:48And it's interesting because PD is the only one that sort of understands the real world implications as it hits.
06:56Could you talk about that, James, because you have to sort of your character really knows what he's doing, but
07:01he also steps back.
07:03Well, PD is a meek kind of guy. So I think when you see stuff on the horizon, I don't
07:09think he's like.
07:11Let's all right, guys, we got to like take command and do this. But, you know, he's like, oh, this
07:16could be kind of bad, you know, because the thing is, there's peer pressure.
07:21Plus, there's the ambition of what he wants to become. He wants to become greater.
07:24Well, I think that PD is a very ambitious guy, you know, he's has a future ahead of him.
07:30But it's just like whether or not he's able to get there.
07:33So I think that from my perspective, like, that's the most interesting part for my character is whether or not
07:40he's like wants to be like going to university in that in that manner in the first place.
07:47So let's set up a fake modeling agent. Oh, my God.
07:50Let's call it Neoteric. What does that even mean?
07:52Exactly. It's a modeling agency for the new age of creatives.
07:56Look, we pimp it out with its own website. We make it look real fucking clean. Alex, this is where
07:59you come in.
08:00Easy.
08:01We link it up to an Instagram account. We buy some followers and a few posts. Looking pretty good.
08:07That's actually not so bad. Right. We send a message. We say, hi, we have an open casting. Blah, blah,
08:13blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Much love. Neoteric models. And sent.
08:21The end.
08:22Yeah, Khan.
08:24Yeah, boy.
08:25Great.
08:29She's f***ing pipping.
08:31Huh? Bullshit.
08:31What's she saying?
08:32Shut up. No, she's f***ing off.
08:33She stopped. She stopped.
08:34No, Pixar didn't happen.
08:35All these characters in their own way are very sharp, very smart. So they have to be more clever than
08:42the other, which is, I think, a great thing.
08:45But it's interesting because when you're doing it through a screener, sometimes you cannot see the body language. Body language
08:52is so important for an actor.
08:54And yet this screen life sort of plays a little bit against that.
08:58Could you sort of talk about that instinct, but also the nature of the intellect of these characters, because they
09:05wouldn't pull something like this off and work with somebody else to pull it off if they didn't have the.
09:12Yeah, yeah, exactly.
09:14And I think, well, the other characters are like that is in there.
09:18They're inherently clever because they're mathematical, essentially.
09:22Like if you're going to be online and know coding and know all that stuff that is like so beyond
09:26me and most people I know, like that takes a different level of intelligence.
09:30And I think what's clever about Lindsay is that on the surface, that's the last like thing that you'd expect
09:38her to be is is have any clue of of how to kind of get into those nooks and crannies
09:43and kind of be on a level that they're on.
09:47But I think she's able to do it because she's so calculated.
09:50She like she like navigates her life by overthinking and thinking like psychologically about what moves someone's going to make.
09:58And she's always 10 steps ahead in a very immoral way.
10:01But I think that's why she's able to bring that to the group, because, yeah, she's she's still intelligent for
10:09all the wrong reasons.
10:09And look at look at how many people are such intelligent, kind of clever business people that can get to
10:16the top, whether that's because of nepotism or not.
10:19But like they have something to them. Unfortunately, a lot of these people just use it in in the absolute
10:25worst way.
10:26And so don't be like Lindsay.
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10:53I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like,
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10:53I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm going to
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