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Hot Ones - Season 30 Episode 1 - Colin Jost … While Eating Spicy Wings
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00:00Jesus. I know. I know.
00:04It's going to be fun.
00:14Hey, what's going on everybody for First We Feast? I'm Sean Evans. You're watching Hot Ones and today
00:18we deliver you a very special episode brought to you by Tums because even legends need relief
00:23and I'm thrilled to be joined in the studio by the legend himself, Tim Howard.
00:27Nicknamed the Secretary of Defense, he's the most capped goalkeeper in U.S. men's national
00:31team history, 13 seasons in the Premier League, and a tournament record 16 saves in a single
00:36match against Belgium in 2014. But will he walk away with a clean sheet against the world's
00:40spiciest wings? Only time will tell. Tim Howard, welcome to the show.
00:44Thank you. I think, thank you. I'm not sure what we're doing today, but we're going to
00:49find out.
00:50What's going through your head as you prepare to take on these wings? Are you naturally a
00:53fan of spicy food? Naturally, no. So, a little background, if we went out and we had wings
00:59and you ordered medium, I'd say, no, let's get mild. So, this is going to be a whole lot
01:03of rock and roll today. But, here we are.
01:18Okay.
01:37This is easy for you.
01:40The first one. But I'm no hero. It gets challenging as it goes.
01:49So, we're just a few weeks away from the big tournament, and some have labeled this
01:53year's U.S. men's national team as the golden generation. Does that add unnecessary pressure,
01:58or does it feel accurate given the talent level on this roster?
02:01Massive pressure. A lot of teams don't live up to that hype. A lot of teams get labeled
02:06their golden generation. It's hard because in that moment, you have to win, you have to
02:09succeed. They've been named the golden generation. I think in the last year or so, people have
02:14sort of said maybe they're not, but they're super talented. This generation of players plays
02:20at bigger clubs than previous generations. And a lot more players are playing at those clubs.
02:25So, now they just have to go figure out how to win something big.
02:29And then every tournament has a player who comes out of nowhere and becomes a household
02:33name. Is there anyone on this U.S. men's national team roster you think we should be paying more
02:37attention to going into it?
02:39Yeah, that's a great question. The ones that kind of jump off the page we already know about,
02:45Christian Pulisic, Weston McKinney, Tyler Adams. I think Chris Richards, which is weird to say
02:50because he plays at Crystal Palace every week in the Premier League. He's an out-and-out starter,
02:56captain of the team. I think he has another level because I think he's got a bit of devilment
03:00in him. He's a good defender, already has that sort of foundation. But now, if you do it on the
03:04world stage, as you just asked, that can take you to new heights.
03:11Yeah, we're going for it.
03:17I just read Homegrown Hell, which I'm not looking for.
03:20You know, it's dangerous when you guys start reading ahead.
03:23I know, and it's hard not to.
03:25Lord.
03:26I understand. You received the news that you'd made the National Soccer Hall of Fame
03:32while live on air with NBC Sports. What's it like to get information like that when you're
03:37literally on TV?
03:38Strange, which I think that's why they wanted that shock and awe element. In that moment,
03:43you're like, sort of, there's this fast-forward video of all of the things you've done and all
03:48the people that got you there, and you're on live TV, so you're trying to figure out how to
03:52formulate thoughts. Really cool and special. I do think that those type of moments are deserving
03:58of monumental sort of announcements, and it felt good to sort of be around my NBC family,
04:03share that with the, you know, people at home, too, so it's cool.
04:06How do you think the sport has changed or evolved the most comparing the games that you played in
04:11during your career versus the ones that you now watch and analyze as a broadcaster?
04:15You can't do the same thing over and over tactically for 100 years. Someone has to change it.
04:19And so the game changes slightly from a tactical element, you know? Different formations get brought
04:25in. Pep Guardiola at Man City will change a position and create a clever name for it, and
04:31then everyone picks up on it. But ultimately, the game doesn't change. The game, for me,
04:35doesn't change. You have to be combative. You have to be tough. So ultimately, there are ideas
04:40around the game that I think change, but the crux of the game never changes.
04:44Yeah, I mean, because that's what's interesting. Like, I'll interview Steph Curry, you know,
04:47and, like, his style of play of, like, shooting threes, like, just in front of the half-court
04:51logo, you know? Like, that can change things. Like, now you'll see in AAU a lot of, like,
04:55Euro stepping, you know? But I think you're saying that football is just different from
04:59basketball or different from baseball, different from... Yeah, in a sense, right? Like, if you were
05:04to look at basketball, for example, and Steph Curry sort of extending where players think
05:08they can shoot from or the Euro stepping, all these different little elements that come
05:11into the game. But if you were to ask someone, like, how do you win a championship? Like, if you
05:15were
05:15asked LeBron James how to win a championship, it would have nothing to do with Euro steps
05:18or deep threes. It would all come back down to the basics of the game. So that's sort of
05:22kind of how I analyze soccer as well.
05:29You enjoy this, huh?
05:31I do. It's masochistic in that way.
05:33How did you get...
05:36How do you get to...
05:38enjoying hot, hot stuff?
05:40You know what? I think it's like cardio.
05:41And then if you step away from it, I think it's hard to build up that tolerance again.
05:46So I think it's just in the rhythm of natural practice.
05:50But I'm not going to be doing this after this, so this is the practice.
05:53Can you take me inside the psychology of a penalty shootout? You know, it remains one of
05:57the most dramatic high-stakes situations in all of sports.
06:00I love it.
06:01These guys in the outfield have run, at this point, after 120 minutes, probably like 15k,
06:1017k. Like, they're done. They're out on their feet. Mentally, you're exhausted. So like,
06:14let's get the game over with. And I'm a fan of that. So I like the penalty shootouts. You can
06:19only ever be a hero.
06:20Like, as a goalkeeper, you're not supposed to make any saves. The chips are stacked against you.
06:25So I always thought, this is great. If I make one save here, I'm a hero. And I think, I'm
06:30good enough to do that.
06:31If you can get two, you're probably going to win. So I sort of like the mental challenge as well.
06:36And sort of that one-on-one is a long 50-yard walk up. You're staring at the shooter.
06:42You're kind of figuring out whether you know where he's going or you're sort of hinting to him that, you
06:46know,
06:47it's just a mind game. I love it.
06:48And then finally, maybe something doesn't come to mind, but I am curious. Does anything stand out as like the
06:53most bewildering
06:55intimidation tactic someone has ever tried in the moments leading up to a penalty kick?
06:59Not really, because here's the thing about penalty shootouts. The goalkeeper is always going to try and do something radical.
07:05The shooter just wants to be in rhythm because he's already, he wants to walk up, take the ball, put
07:10it down, back up,
07:11pick his spot, and go. He wants nothing to break that rhythm. So you want to sort of do things
07:17to make the referee get involved. You want, you want the referee to say, Hey, stand still. Cause you're,
07:20you're, you're, it's like a, it's like a field goal kicker. The more they think about it, the worse it
07:25is for them.
07:26That makes sense. So the more time that I can take while they're standing over the penalty,
07:30the walls close in. Yeah, I think so.
07:35So up next is the smoking drag. I bet it is. I absolutely bet it is.
07:42And this is a little bit of a step.
07:44Oh, okay. You never warned me about that.
07:48So your nickname at Everton, secretary of defense, it's one of the greatest nicknames in the history
07:53of sports. Do you remember any sort of welcome to Merseyside moment when you transferred there
07:58from Manchester United? Like it does seem to be like a very singular and intense football culture
08:03over there. Yeah. The city of Liverpool in and of itself stands, stands out. They're fanatical.
08:08They're crazy. They think the world is against them. They think all of the, all of England is against
08:13them. And they, they sort of have this rallying cry together, even though both sides sort of hate
08:17each other. That one moment, I don't remember like a single moment. I just remember coming
08:22from Manchester United, which was like the biggest club in the world to Everton and Everton just felt
08:26like a fit. I was a kid from Jersey. And I was like, this is sort of like my club,
08:30my people.
08:31This is, you're a very demanding group of fans. But if you run your socks off and you fight like
08:37a dog, they love you. They're going to love you. For me, that was like a big turning point in
08:41my
08:41career. And then I, of course I spent 10 years there. What does it mean to have your own chant
08:45in the premier league? I feel like that, you know, getting on a video game is cool. And then
08:49being in the stadium and having people chant your name or something about you. Um, it's sort of the
08:55culture. We don't have that in America. It's special. And I always tell like, so individually,
08:58they chant your name, which is cool. But I think the fanaticism, like the game is important. Like
09:04I've been in games where our, our team travels or you see it with the weight teams. They travel,
09:08they spend a lot of money to go into Europe or certain places in the country and travel to see
09:12you and you lay an egg and you stink and you get beat like four, nothing. And instead of leaving,
09:17the shirts come off and the beers are flying and the chants are going and it sort of becomes a
09:21game
09:21in and of itself. And they're basically saying, we came here to be entertained. We're not being
09:26entertained. So it's our turn to take over. And so there's this like togetherness with the fans
09:30and the club and the players. So yeah, it's fun.
09:38In your autobiography, you have an interesting passage about how your coach had to convince you
09:42to play goalkeeper. You compared it to standing in the outfield and tee ball. What are the hallmarks
09:48of a good goalie prospect? Like it does seem like a position that requires some recruitment,
09:52some indoctrination since not everyone gets a chance at it. I didn't want to play goalkeeper.
09:57I wanted to have fun and run around and slide and do all the things, score goals. I was a
10:02big kid.
10:02I was tall. They had all my soccer and my youth soccer pictures. I'm like this tall. And then my
10:07coach is the same height, you know? And so the tall kid goes and goal. I was always on teams
10:12that were
10:12good and my coaches sort of make deals with me, play, play in the goal in the first half and
10:18then we'll
10:19probably be winning. So we come out in the second half and play a striker or something. So I did.
10:23And then the further along the way that you go, you just get this positive reinforcement and
10:30kids like that, you know, like, Hey, you did a great job today. Your teammates are high-fiving.
10:33Like, okay, well, I guess I like playing in goal. But I think from the attribute standpoint, as a,
10:38as a youngster, it's like tall, athletic, brave, you know, someone who sort of semi wants to be in
10:46goal. Like when my daughter started playing, they did this little rotational thing where they were
10:49like seven years old, where every kid had to play every position and she put the gloves on. It was
10:53her turn. And she started crying. I was like, Oh, thank goodness. That's like, that's my girl.
10:57Just cry. Get out of goal. Don't go anywhere near it. But I think that you have to have kids
11:01who are
11:01willing to want to be in goal. Otherwise it's just disaster.
11:05All right, Tim, we've made it halfway through the gauntlet and I think it's time for a little
11:08halftime heartburn relief. Bill, bring in the Tums Chewy Bites tropical fruit smoothie.
11:15Heartburn relief incoming.
11:19Thank you so much, Bill. You're welcome.
11:22You know, after all these years of being a chicken wing talk show host,
11:25I still to this day could use a little relief. You know what,
11:27I'm actually already starting to feel the heat. So I'm going to take a Tums now.
11:31I think I'll join you.
11:38I'm ready. Good.
11:45I'm going to hell. Here we go.
11:47That's where it gets serious.
11:49I think we drink milk for this one.
11:50Yeah. I'm going to join you at that party.
11:54If you could relive one game from your career as a semi-regular reoccurring dream,
12:01which one would it be and why?
12:03I do. But the Belgian game every night, every night before I go to bed, I watch it.
12:07It was sort of my signature moment, but like whether it was for me or not, for the fans,
12:13people come up to me and talk about Everton and they talk about their United fan,
12:18Manchester United fan or whatever. But 99% of the time, people are talking about the
12:23Belgian game. And I think for an athlete in hindsight, it's like, it's cool. It's really cool to have
12:28a shining moment that people. It's imprinted in culture. Yeah.
12:32And the stories are usually like, I was in the bar with my best friend and we were going crazy.
12:37And then so they bring you back to this time and moment that's special. So that's the one.
12:41When you reflect on that game, do you feel like you were in any sort of flow state?
12:45Did the game unfold in front of you in a unique way?
12:47Like how, if at all, was it different from the other ones?
12:49It was different because as I'm 47 years old, born in 1979, right? I came up as a child,
12:58idolizing Michael Jordan, like every kid in America. And there was a point in time,
13:03early nineties where Michael Jordan sat down for an interview and he, he had done something
13:07spectacular. They asked him about it. It was the first time in sports history that we heard about
13:11a player being in the zone. He coined that phrase. And so psychologists and everybody thought,
13:15what's the zone? What does that feel like? And I talk about that day, having,
13:18having heard about what this being in the zone was like,
13:21I remember sort of the smells and the sounds and we were playing Belgium,
13:24they were wearing red. And so I can, I can remember sort of blurry moments,
13:29but I was so locked in that I don't remember a lot of the game. Like I,
13:33like, I don't remember visually a lot of the game. Like I do other games.
13:36It was sort of going warp speed, but almost underwater, if that makes sense.
13:40And Neo picking bullets out of the air, totally.
13:43Totally. And so for me, that was sort of how, how it was the breakdown of it,
13:47but, uh, kind of cool to go back and watch.
13:54There's just something about that deep pepper flavor.
13:57Yeah. Don't like it.
13:59I'd imagine when you lose an elimination game that it has this sort of like emotional vacuum
14:04that takes over. How would you describe what a locker room looks and sounds like?
14:08After a big loss, elimination, quiet disbelief. You're dealing with winners who won another shot.
14:15So you're like, you're, you're conditioned to win. And then when you don't win, you're conditioned to
14:20go, all right, let's go again. And when you get eliminated or you're, you're going home,
14:23you're looking for that, but it's not coming. And so it's a sort of disbelief and you're,
14:27and it feels different than anything else you've done. And it's, and it's,
14:31it's an epic failure. It sort of smacks you in the face. A bit like, a bit like
14:35Funky Nirvana. Jesus.
14:43So this is the bomb beyond insanity. Holy heck. All right.
14:52Wow.
14:58Jesus.
14:59I know.
15:02Sorry, you're fun. So while you battled the bomb, what I'm going to do is give you some
15:07US men's national team superlatives. So I'll make a declarative statement. And then you tell me
15:12which player past or present best fits that description. If I can. Which player would you
15:17trust most to take a penalty with everything on the line? Landon Donovan. Wow. Jesus.
15:24My guy, Landon. Yeah. Who's most likely to give an inspiring halftime speech during halftime?
15:29Michael Bradley. Who's the most natural leader?
15:34Carlos Bocanegra. He was captain for a while. Who had the best relationship with fans?
15:38Clint Dempsey, I think, because they loved him. You could do no wrong.
15:41Which player is most likely to show up to the charter with the most expensive luggage?
15:45Ha ha ha. Josie Altidore.
15:49Oh, wow. He did tissues.
15:51Mm-hmm. Gone. Completely gone.
15:53At times like these.
15:55And then just be careful around the eyes. Yeah, no, that's fine.
15:59Fine. It was his hand. It was his hand. It's hot. Jesus. I'm sweating from everywhere.
16:03I know. It's amazing.
16:05You and I both, we got the right kind of haircut for this. Yeah.
16:08Yeah. What you were saying?
16:10I was just throwing superlatives at you. Like, you know, he did body that.
16:15Um, I guess.
16:18Who's most likely to miss the team bus because they're still getting ready, fixing their hair?
16:23DeMarcus Beasley. Not his hair, just most likely.
16:29How are we feeling?
16:31Horrific, mate. Absolutely horrific.
16:33Whoa.
16:35We're good. We're good.
16:36The good news is that was the worst one. I don't think so.
16:41You know, next to not a walk in the park, but you looked a formidable opponent in the face.
16:47That's wild. Yeah.
16:49But people like, people get like orders of that and go, yeah, put the bomb sauce on there.
16:53There's some people that need that. They need that to feel alive.
16:56That's wild.
16:56Okay.
16:57But we're almost to the finish line.
16:58Sure.
16:58If you're ready.
17:01This next one is a squash reaper X.
17:04Good gosh.
17:06All right. You doing it?
17:08Mm-hmm.
17:18Mm-hmm.
17:19Oh.
17:20I find with the athletes, there's always like a little bit of a competitive streak that kicks in,
17:25you know, like a one more rep, one more wing.
17:27Damn, I lost that competitive streak.
17:30I think the bomb knocked that competitive streak out of me.
17:33Oh, Jesus.
17:34What's the code of honor regarding a keeper scoring a goal?
17:38You know, I've heard you describe your famous one against Bolton.
17:41You described it as cruel.
17:43Yeah, I was too nice.
17:44Naturally, it's terrible.
17:46A goalkeeper gets scored on, you've done something wrong.
17:49Like, that's terrible.
17:50I didn't want to celebrate that in his face.
17:52But like, now that I'm like older and wiser and like more ornery,
17:57like if I scored again, my shirt's coming off in the stands, you know?
18:01I tried to have a little bit of respect, but if it happened again, I wouldn't.
18:12All right.
18:13No, I've seen you do this.
18:15No way.
18:15I need more milk, by the way.
18:17Time, 20-second timeout.
18:18I need more milk.
18:19No chance of putting it on there.
18:23Did you put it on there?
18:24You know what?
18:25We don't have to.
18:26I mean, I'm not.
18:27Yeah, yeah, yeah.
18:28But you wouldn't do it just for yourself.
18:30You know, I don't want to show, you know, I don't want to, I feel like I'm showing off.
18:34Yeah, yeah, don't show off.
18:35All right, this is the last guy.
18:37Last guy.
18:40And with that, Tim Howard, the wings of death are behind us.
18:45You have conquered the Hot Ones Gauntlet.
18:48And I want to close things out.
18:50Wow.
18:51With some rapid fire predictions for the tournament coming up in the next few weeks.
18:56I know your brain, your mouth are on fire.
18:59All of it was fire.
18:59That's all I am.
18:59Not going to be easy with the heat of a thousand sun coursing through you.
19:03Wow.
19:04Which team is your pick for a Cinderella story?
19:07I think one of the really small, and I don't know which one, one of the really small nations,
19:12because the tournament's expanded now.
19:13So you're going to get teams who had never been in a tournament, who should probably never be
19:18anywhere near it, but they're going to be in it.
19:19And you're probably going to get an upset.
19:22I don't know if they'll get out of the first round, maybe, but they'll get an upset.
19:25A shock the world moment.
19:26Yeah, and if they do that, and like they get out of the group as like the third place team,
19:30that's like one of the biggest things in the football league.
19:32So, like Congo, maybe.
19:34Like you look at a Congo and think they could be one of the teams.
19:38Which host city do you imagine will have the most raucous game environment?
19:42I still think New York just brings the world to them, always.
19:47And finally, who do you think is going to be hoisting that trophy on July 19th?
19:51I think it's in Spain.
19:53That's my champion.
19:54And there it is, Tim Howard taking on the wings of death.
19:58Let's go.
19:58Living to tell the tale.
19:59Let's go.
20:00Before we roll out the red carpet, a very special shout out to Tums for making this all possible.
20:05And with that said, Tim Howard, this camera, this camera, this camera,
20:08let the people know what you have going on in your life.
20:10What do I have going on?
20:11Everything.
20:12NBC Sports Premier League Unfiltered Soccer Podcast with Landon Donovan.
20:16We are crushing all things soccer.
20:18Just being dad to two crazy college kids.
20:21And that's it.
20:22It's good.
20:22Life is good.
20:26Amazing.
20:27Wow.
20:32My god.
20:33Great job.
20:34Great job.
20:35Great job.
20:36It wasn't fun.
20:38It was okay.
20:40Horrific, mate.
20:41Absolutely horrific.
20:42Ever.
20:43Viel thought.
20:44That son of the brightWait.malone
20:44is what
20:44You got to
20:44it wasn't in front. go. On another way. They're not able to go around.
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