00:00Marge, isn't it kind of crazy that your franchise, Real House of New Jersey, got in the mix of Summer
00:04House?
00:04Oh, yes.
00:08It got a little, you know, from somebody who's called messy fessy, it got a little messy.
00:13But there's really nothing happened there.
00:16I would have known at the time.
00:18I think Jen would have confided in me.
00:21The whole thing is, it's like, listen, she's known to be messy.
00:24She's always very, you know, touchy-feely, but nothing happened.
00:28Do I believe West might have said something happened to Ciara?
00:32Absolutely.
00:32Do I think Ciara lies?
00:33Absolutely not.
00:35Do I think West might have said, oh, this went down?
00:38I mean, he's a f*** boy.
00:39He says things for clout.
00:41So I think that's probably what happened.
00:43So, you know, that went on a little too long.
00:46I felt bad for her.
00:47She was like, and, you know, she just kept talking.
00:49I was like, cut it.
00:50Cut it right here.
00:51How is...
00:52You know, do not defend.
00:55Well, Jen Fessler was mad at me because I said, you're a little messy.
00:59But she's okay.
01:00She's fine.
01:01You know, she's a grown-up.
01:02And I think, you know, I did hear that some of the Summer House boys were trying to use
01:06it as clout.
01:07You know, Jesse said he slept with Erika Jean.
01:10So that's the other reason, I think, is just like maybe West was trying to say, I did something
01:15as well.
01:16And I was like, yeah, these women, you know, as clout, these women aren't using you as
01:20clout.
01:21You guys are like little f*** boys.
01:22No one cares about you.
01:23Let's be honest.
01:24And you guys started this?
01:25It was Joe from Southern Hospitality with Luann that started this whole trend of like,
01:31let me try to sleep with the housewives.
01:33Put some respect on Joe Bradley's name.
01:35He pioneered this space.
01:37Yes.
01:38It was a messy bootstrap.
01:38Congrats to him.
01:39I remember that day.
01:40I mean, he was currently dating my friend Danielle at the time.
01:45Oh, that's right.
01:47That's right.
01:48Correct.
01:48That was a little messy.
01:49Oh, my God.
01:50Very much so.
01:51Very much so.
01:52Yes.
01:53I forgot about Luann.
01:54Wait, how did Danielle feel about being sort of cheated on?
01:58She didn't really love it.
01:58She didn't love it.
01:59Really?
02:00But like, the countess of it all just adds a really interesting layer.
02:04Well, and the thing was, is we were with Luann after Watch What Happens Live.
02:10We were all out together.
02:12Oh, my God.
02:12And then me and Danielle left.
02:14Wow.
02:15We were all out together because Joe was about to go home.
02:18And they had an afterthought.
02:19And then there was not truth being told.
02:24I see.
02:25And then literally it took, I think, two months before, you know, TJ gave us the.
02:30Oh, the real deal.
02:30God bless.
02:31The gay found out.
02:32Right.
02:33We had to get a little messy down there.
02:34Yes.
02:35We're not to be afraid.
02:35But we're not, we're going to be a fire.
02:35We're too.
02:37We're not to be afraid.
02:37We're too Whoo is a journey.
02:40We're too high.
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