00:00You said there that legislators had been asleep at the wheel, but until just a few weeks ago,
00:04you were a key legislator. You were in a position as health secretary to have
00:08some real influence over this. But at that time, you didn't call for a full ban on social media
00:13for under 16s. You said you were thinking about it. You said the issue worried you,
00:17but your words were not as strong as they are today. So when did you decide
00:21that a full ban was the answer? Well, liberated from the freedom, liberated from the obligations
00:28of collective responsibility, I can say exactly what I think.
00:32That's not very responsible, though, is it, to the people who are calling for ban?
00:34Anna, if you let me finish the answer, sorry, it's hard to engage down the line,
00:44but if you let me finish the answer, I'm liberated from the obligations
00:48of collective responsibility, which means I can now say publicly what I think.
00:52I made the same arguments inside government. I made them at Cabinet.
00:56I made them in a number of Cabinet committees and meetings where we were discussing issues
01:01surrounding education and well-being, certainly, but also violence against women and girls.
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