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00:10WIth jest w Świętego Ministra na Zagranie, Nicolas Faurissier.
00:15Minister, naprawdę dobrze z tym zauważył się na Euronews.
00:17Dziękuję bardzo za przywity.
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00:28o sytuacji w Iranu i Strait Hormuz.
00:32Czy może w ogóle zrobić coś, aby wyraźć produkty,
00:37wyraźć produkty, energii, na przykład,
00:40w czasie Iranu i USA przejeżdżają się w tym stanowisku?
00:45Nie możemy wytrzymać bez niczego w tej sytuacji.
00:50Chcę tylko powiedzieć, że ta sytuacja jest wpływa
00:53przyjeżdżają się do przejeżdżające w internazjalnym tradeem,
00:58które są, na przykład, tarifów Trump,
01:01które są w Chinach,
01:04kapacety,
01:05re-rężdżające do Europy marketu,
01:09które są konsekwencami do wojska w Ukrainy.
01:14I mean, sytuacja jest bardzo komplikowana,
01:17i, oczywiście, mamy rozmowę.
01:19Najpierw jest to mieć bardziej obrzyjałmi free trade agreements,
01:26bardziej obrzyjałmi obrzyjałmi i obrzyjałmi obrzyjałmi.
01:32To są są pytania w tym, że mamy złożyć,
01:35szczególnie w tym, że implementowanii free trade agreements
01:38that the Commission z bardzo wyjaśnieniem w tym roku.
01:43I to się dzieje w Philippinii, w tym, Thailandu, to Wymiana.
01:46Ok.
01:48I need to ask you, of course, about the EU-US trade deal.
01:50There was an agreement on its implementation.
01:52Are you satisfied, Minister, that there are strong enough safeguards in this deal now
01:58to protect the EU from any future potential tariff threats from Mr Trump?
02:03Well, I mean, the Americans, they were waiting that we implement the Thornbridge Agreement.
02:11They were telling us, and Jameson Greer, for example, told me very often these last weeks,
02:15they were telling us, well, we don't understand why Europe is so long.
02:22When will you have you implemented this and agreed on this agreement?
02:28It's done.
02:29Ok.
02:29And it will be operational, if I well understood, next July.
02:34So this means that the Americans, they have their answer.
02:38And the Thornbridge Agreement has to be implemented as it was discussed and negotiated.
02:44And this means also that we will be very vigilant, of course, on the way the Commission will implement it,
02:51put it in an operational situation.
02:54But it's the same.
02:55We will be very vigilant on the Americans' implementation.
02:59For example, it was specified that we would have some more exemptions.
03:02We are waiting in France for the wine and spirits exemption.
03:07This was more or less a promise.
03:09We are waiting for that.
03:11But you mentioned the exemption on wines and spirits, which is, of course, crucial for France.
03:15There's also things like steel and aluminium, which still stand at 50%, but there was a promise in that deal
03:20to cut them.
03:21Yes.
03:21Are you confident there is a deal coming from the US on this?
03:24When we implement, when we get operational, what we discussed about, there are no reasons not to be confident.
03:34We just have to discuss more.
03:36I mean, the discussion with the Americans has to be forwarded.
03:40This is what gives me the feeling that we can be optimistic, even if it takes time.
03:48You said that the Americans have been waiting, that Europe was perhaps slow.
03:52Do you not understand the delay when there have been threats to the territorial sovereignty of Europe when it comes
03:58to Greenland,
03:59when there have been these rulings from the Supreme Court that have thrown into doubt all this?
04:04Do you understand the way the European Parliament especially has been biding its time to make sure that the US
04:12can be trusted?
04:13Do you understand that delay?
04:14I perfectly understand myself.
04:16The Americans, they have difficulties to understand.
04:19But we, and the French I am, I perfectly understand.
04:23On the other hand, we could say that, on the contrary, the Americans sometimes they are quite a little bit
04:29quick in their decisions and tariffs implementation.
04:32I see.
04:33I want to pivot to China, because there is a feeling here in Brussels that there is a shift coming
04:40in the policy towards China.
04:42I think your government's published a report in February talking about the Chinese steamroller.
04:47We know about the issues with the chokehold on raw materials.
04:51We know about the overcapacities that are really cannibalizing European industry.
04:55Is it now time, Minister, for the EU to really be more assertive in its approach to China?
05:01We have to go on in discussing with China, but the Chinese have to understand that they won't win anything
05:09if they destroy the European industry and then the European market.
05:14So this means that Europe has to be clear on its analysis and on the use of means that are
05:21prepared and settled for a commercial defense to protect our industry and so on.
05:27We have not to be any longer naive and this change of mind, this reinforcement of our protections of strategic
05:36industries, of the minimum level of input produced in Europe and so on and so on.
05:43This is going on.
05:44This is changing.
05:45It's not a matter of China or not.
05:47It's not only China.
05:48It's all the countries.
05:49And we have to have with China a discussion, which is a frank one.
05:53But what about these specific ideas?
05:55For example, the idea that European companies should now have a policy where they cannot be sourcing 100% of
06:02components from a single supplier.
06:04Is this something you support?
06:07Yes, we have to.
06:08You know, France has a very strict position on this.
06:10We have to protect, as all over the world, all other countries do.
06:17All other zones do that.
06:19We are the European countries are the only one not to do that enough.
06:24So we have to strengthen this policy of protection of our strategic interests and sectors in the industry, in the
06:32new technologies, in certain number of procurement chains.
06:37And this means that the IAA will have to be implemented very rapidly and negotiated very rapidly because we are
06:47now discussing on the scope which countries would be or not included with exemption in the European circle, if I
06:58may say so.
06:59Yes.
07:00And which would not be what will be the level of European input, which is an obligation when you have
07:07some public money or when, for example, cars are subsidized and so on and so on.
07:12And this is the question.
07:14And this is the discussion we are having for the moment.
07:17France has a strict position, which is far more strict than the Commission's position as it was given, saying that
07:26you have 73 countries with which we have agreements and we should discuss with them.
07:34And so we think it has to be very, very restrictive if we want it to be efficient to protect
07:42our industry.
07:43What does that mean for countries like the UK, Canada, who really seem to want to be part of this?
07:48The countries which are very close in terms of industrial integration, we could speak, for example, also of Morocco.
07:55We have to look what is efficient, what is normal and what is interesting to support our own industry.
08:04I think, you know, car industry in Morocco is very much integrated to European industry, especially France.
08:12So we have to take this into account.
08:14So you could envisage countries like Morocco within the Made in Europe scheme?
08:18Yes, but with a certain number of criteria that they would have to respect.
08:25One of the issues with China, of course, is the issues of critical raw materials.
08:28I want to briefly ask you about your trip to Greenland.
08:31I know it came around the same time as the US Special Envoy Geoff Laundrie's visit as well.
08:36Does it make sense for France to be striking these kind of bilateral memorandums of understanding while the EU is
08:42also trying to do the same thing?
08:44Is this counterproductive?
08:45We are working hand in hand with the institutions of Europe.
08:48I met the Commissioner for Development when I was there.
08:53I spoke also in the name of Europe, as a member of Europe.
08:59I mean, we have a special relations as French.
09:02And nobody can say that President Macron, Jean-Noël Baron, and then me, we've been there.
09:08No other country has done that.
09:10So we are very close to the Greenlanders since one year.
09:14And the verbal aggression of the America on the idea that they could buy or they could take the Greenlanders.
09:23So we have always been in support.
09:25We are doing what we said.
09:27We are going there.
09:28We are building some win-win partnerships in all the fields,
09:32and especially mining, energy, telecommunications, and so on.
09:36But we are also doing this with Europe.
09:39And especially, it's a message I gave that we wanted that Europe to be more recognised and more involved in
09:50the future of Greenland.
09:52So there's no problem on that.
09:54Okay.
09:54Final question, Minister, on a slightly different subject.
09:58I know that your government, along with the Swedish government, has asked for a proposal now on restricting trade with
10:07the territories that Israel occupies in the West Bank, in East Jerusalem.
10:11I do understand that the Dutch government has actually just moved on this and restricted trade with higher tariffs on
10:18these products coming from settlements.
10:20Are you confident now there's going to be a proposal coming from Brussels on this?
10:24This is what we are asking.
10:26With our Swedish friend, we wrote the commission.
10:30We asked this and we insisted on the necessity to have a European, common European position on this question rapidly.
10:41So to say, we cannot accept any imports of products that are illegally, in fact, produced in illegally occupied territories,
10:55in regard of the international law and so on.
10:57It's not an aggressive position.
10:59It's just a position which is in terms of law and the rights of the people.
11:09It's normal that we say that.
11:11We have to be coherent.
11:12Effectively, the Netherlands minister made a statement on that, plus the French and the Swedish.
11:19And other countries also said that it was necessary to have this answer of the commission, try to have a
11:25position which is balanced.
11:26Is it a restriction?
11:28Is it the fact that we are more offensive and more strict on this question with the Israeli government?
11:37Anyway, we have to have a position of Europe and the proposal of the European Commission.
11:43Has the commission been taking too long to come forward with this?
11:47They were very attentive to what we said.
11:50Okay, so you're confident there's something coming?
11:52Yes.
11:52Okay, good.
11:53Minister Farisier, thank you so much for your time.
11:55Thank you.
11:56Thank you.
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