00:00Thank you, Mr. Chair. This president and his supporters in Congress want to turn the clock back.
00:07They're trying to undo the progress of the civil rights movement. That's what this is all about.
00:13This is about white nationalism and a direct attack on black Americans in this country,
00:19and it comes from the very top. That's why we need groups like SPLC,
00:27because the president is systematically taking us back to the darkest chapters of American history.
00:33Rather than face accountability from the voters, he is fully embracing authoritarianism.
00:39Sham indictments against nonprofits are just one part of this plan.
00:45President Trump, his captured Supreme Court, and Republicans in this very room have supported
00:51attacks on law firms involved in civil rights litigation, dismantling the federal civil rights
00:57offices, weaponizing the DOJ to baselessly attack the president's enemies, gutting the Voting Rights Act.
01:04This is an effort to criminalize dissent. We're witnessing an intentional effort to intimidate
01:12any institution who will stand up for our rights, the rights of Americans.
01:17It's an intentional effort to silence black voices and to undo our multiracial democracy.
01:25And the majority claims that the SPLC manufactures hate. Here's the hard troop.
01:31There is no reason that the SPLC has to manufacture hate in this country because the Trump era
01:36has supplied plenty of it. White supremacy, Christian nationalism, violence against women,
01:43right-wing extremism, and bigotry against the LGBTQ community is flourishing. And the president just
01:50set up a corrupt slush fund to pay people who took up arms against our own government.
01:55Right now, hate is being cultivated, rewarded, and reinforced by those in power.
02:02Ms. Wiley, thank you for being here. How do these attacks on SPLC, the Justice Department,
02:07and the civil rights of black Americans enforce civil rights enforcement affect the civil rights
02:14of black Americans? Significantly. And I just want to share one story we haven't talked about
02:22because the reality is Charles Morrell III, a black man in Boston in 2022, was just walking down the
02:31street. The Patriot Front attacked him. The Patriot Front is listed on SPLC's heat map as a hate and
02:41extremist group. The importance of calling it out is so that Charles Murray III can walk down the street
02:49and be safe. And at a time when we're talking about schools and education and children and what happens
02:56within them, we see a broadside attack on even teaching history of slavery, history of the civil
03:04rights movement that took permission away from hate and extremism and said this country, no matter
03:09your viewpoint, no matter your religion, no matter who you vote for, and no matter what you believe
03:15is your country. That matters for all of us. And I say every American should be concerned,
03:20no matter who you are, if we whitewash hate. I couldn't agree more because we see every day
03:27when we turn on the news and we watch this president at press conferences, the bigotry and the hatred is
03:33coming from the top. It's a strategy. It's an electoral strategy, but it's also a cultural one.
03:40The way President Trump has routinely insulted and demeaned women and people of color has permeated
03:45this country. When he casually calls women reporters piggy and stupid and mouths the word bitch
03:52at a black reporter. When he calls Haiti and African countries shithole nations. When he repeatedly
04:00and relentlessly spreads falsehoods about President Obama's birth certificate. It spreads the hate.
04:10As a former history teacher, I know there's going to be a reckoning. There will. And our children
04:19and our grandchildren will ask us where we stood, what we said, what we did when we had these microphones,
04:30when we had these platforms. They will ask us if we bowed down to a tyrant, to a bigot,
04:38to a man who spreads hate. Through his social media posts, through his appearances at press conferences,
04:46they will ask us this. And I will tell you, I know where I am. I'm standing with the people
04:50and I'm standing with the Constitution. I yield back.
04:54General, he yields back. The gentleman from South Carolina is recognized.
04:58Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Hey guys, I have a great idea.
05:042016, we raised $51 million. That's really good.
05:08But I think we can do better, right? I think we can do just a little bit better
05:12if we just invest in the same thing that we're perpetuating,
05:18if we perpetuate the same thing that we're fighting against.
05:20So let's take, Mr. O'Neill, $3 million. Does that sound about right?
05:25If we take that little bit of money and send it to informants in white nationalist groups,
05:32I think we can two and a half, like I think we can double our money.
05:36Does that sound like a good business model?
05:38I have this model for you. I think it's only $270 to that particular Charlottesville informant.
05:44Right. So let's, I think that's a good investment, don't you?
05:47I think if a year from now, a year from now, in 2017, I think we'll see the fruits of
05:52our labor.
05:53Is that kind of what happened?
05:57According to the indictment, and I do need to preface according to the indictment
06:02because I haven't seen the underlying evidence, and of course this will work out in court.
06:06But according to the indictment, that's exactly what happened.
06:11So we take this organization, the Southern Poverty Law Center,
06:15that has had, let's say, tremendous success decades ago
06:18in eliminating racism in our country, in fixing laws,
06:24and seeing really a societal change in the way that we approach race
06:27and the way that we deal with race.
06:30And they were doing pretty good in 2016, and even before.
06:34But isn't that just crazy?
06:36I mean, Ms. Hageman talked about this a second ago,
06:38but we're sitting and we're perpetuating the problem
06:43and funding the problem that we're eliminating, right?
06:47I mean, this is a division for dollars racket.
06:50Is that a fair characterization, at least according to the indictment?
06:53Well, and that's why I wrote this book in 2020, years before the indictment,
06:59because I saw it when they put good people like Tony Perkins' organization,
07:04Family Research Council, on the hate map.
07:06I've been screaming from the rooftops about this for years.
07:10So when the indictment comes out, I say, yeah, that makes a lot of sense to me.
07:16And I want to set a few, if you don't mind, I want to set a few things straight.
07:20The Southern Poverty Law Center wasn't founded until 1971.
07:24A lot of people in this room have been saying that it's a civil rights organization
07:28started in the middle of the civil rights movement.
07:30It was started toward the end of it.
07:32They were almost ambulance chasing.
07:34I mean, and forgive me on this, but when they sued the Klan, their own lawyers said that suing the
07:43Klan
07:43was like shooting fish in a barrel.
07:46And their own lawyers quit because they said Morris Dees was so focused on suing the Klan
07:51to make money by going to donors because he knew donors cared about this,
07:56that they were drifting away from their original mission,
07:58which, by the way, wasn't fighting white supremacy,
08:01but was representing poor people in the South with legal representation,
08:05which is a noble mission.
08:07And I pray to God that they turn every effort that they have
08:11demonizing conservatives toward that effort because that effort is noble.
08:16And by the way, groups on the hate map, good conservative groups
08:19that provide legal representation to people who can't afford it
08:23are demonized by the SPLC for doing exactly what the SPLC was founded.
08:28So, Mr. Perkins, real quick, if the SPLC puts on their hate map a neo-Nazi group,
08:35that's kind of their mission, right?
08:36There's no objection to that.
08:38Probably not.
08:39The transparency, I think, actually helps to eliminate groups like that.
08:43Would you agree?
08:44Yes.
08:45So you're on the same list as a neo-Nazi group.
08:49And that's not really a fair characterization, is it?
08:52No.
08:53And Moms for Liberty, too.
08:55I mean, their only crime, I think, is being involved in their child's education, right?
08:59Right, being moms.
08:59Being moms.
09:00Yeah.
09:01So what they need...
09:02That's apparently a white supremacist thing, right?
09:04Like, I don't understand this logic.
09:05But we are taking an entity and using an idea that we're going to go grow our influence.
09:17In the Biden administration, in government,
09:19they're going to meet with us on a quarterly basis.
09:21We're going to go after people.
09:23It became, I think, and maybe this is fair to characterize,
09:27but the SPLC went from maybe an altruistic entity at its inception, on a good day,
09:34to really a racket of let's go grow our influence, let's balloon our fundraising.
09:41I mean, what's their foundation right now?
09:42$700 million?
09:43Is it fair to characterize the mission creep of the SPLC in that way, sir?
09:48Congressman Frye, it's more insidious than that.
09:51They needed the white supremacist groups so that they could marginalize and demonize moms
09:58and groups that adhere to biblical teaching.
10:02They needed those groups.
10:04That's why they're propping them up.
10:05This was not about money.
10:07This was about, Charlottesville was about coalescing corporations behind their initiative
10:13to marginalize and demonize conservatives so the left could march forward.
10:18It's much more insidious than what, this is like Al Capone.
10:22Does anybody believe that it was just tax evasion?
10:25Come on.
10:26He was a criminal.
10:27He killed.
10:28He murdered.
10:28He murdered and you use that to justify your existence.
10:32With that, Mr. Chairman, I yield back.
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