00:00And again, Brandon Dorlis, a video of him doing his thing.
00:03Brandon Dorlis had a great season last year.
00:05I mean, he was money.
00:06You know, we've got guys now, I don't know where you fall on, you know,
00:09having the same, I think the same argument that I throw out at times
00:13about Penix Jr. applies to Braylon Trice.
00:14The odds are surely stacked against him.
00:16He's looking at four guys ahead of him on the depth chart
00:18because he just can't stay on the field.
00:20Same thing goes, obviously, for Troy Anderson.
00:22I think the, I guess my approach is that you're not counting on those guys as much,
00:28so anything you get from them is a benefit.
00:30I don't look at Michael Penix as anything you get from him as a benefit.
00:34I think you need to be getting something from him.
00:36So, yeah, I do think it's viewed a little bit differently.
00:39Also, it's just they've been out a lot longer than Penix is.
00:44I mean, Penix's injury, they've been out essentially almost two full seasons
00:48based on that.
00:50And as it relates to Dorlis, got a really lucky break with his injury
00:54that was not as severe as was initially feared and hoped to get him back
01:00because he was starting to be an impact player.
01:02Now, again, last year, this guy coming in, and we knew the rep about the player
01:08and the rotation with Ulbricht.
01:09Now, again, Jimmy Lake, we talked about all the things that didn't happen.
01:13You know, the first year of Raheem Morris, last year, they get the guy in Ulbricht.
01:18And look, I think Ulbricht, I think he does some good things.
01:20I think there's some things out there which kind of leave me scratching my head
01:23sometimes in how he approaches.
01:25You know, why not keep the pressure?
01:27It's amazing in a game where, and I get you watch all the season,
01:30you're going to have these ups and downs, but it just drives me crazy
01:34that you can be rushing four or five, right?
01:38Whatever your base package is, you've added some extra heat.
01:40And you just created, like, now a third and 15.
01:43And now you're only going to rush three.
01:45And that was the Colts game.
01:47You know, that was Daniel Jones going right down the field on us.
01:49To me, it's like, yes, you can't be Buddy Ryan all the time,
01:53but I just love the idea of if you're going to continue with the pressure,
01:56don't overthink it.
01:57Keep the pressure on.
01:59Come back on your shield or with your shield, right?
02:01I was going to say the exact same thing.
02:03It's just overthinking.
02:04It's the paralysis by analysis, all of that, where it's just like,
02:07well, we've got to change it up.
02:08We'll still be able to get there with three, and we'll have max coverage
02:12and this or that.
02:12It's like, no, man, just don't change it.
02:15It worked on second down.
02:16It worked on third down.
02:17Now do it on fourth down or whatever the down and distance is.
02:21No, I mean, look, he coaches the linebackers up.
02:23I think he has a great chance for some of these linebackers,
02:25whether it's guys we drafted or players that are on these one-year deals
02:27because they just had injuries or their other teams,
02:29it just hasn't gone where they're supposed to go.
02:31He's a good guy to get them right.
02:33Brandon Dorlis played in only two games his rookie year.
02:36Played in 15 last year at eight and a half sacks.
02:38You know, and you talked about the deep hamstring injury, right?
02:41Was it that or was it MCL or whatever it was?
02:43It wasn't.
02:44It was bad.
02:44We thought it might be a full knee reconstruction kind of like the rest,
02:48but I think it was just partial and they got through it.
02:51But, I mean, if Ulbricht can get Christian Harris back on track,
02:53Christian Harris coming out of college was expected to be a big-time star.
02:56Yeah, look, you can go down the list of guys that have just,
03:00for whatever reason, not been good enough in recent years.
03:03Largely, I would say, due to injury.
03:05I think one of them, one or two of the additions,
03:07was due to got pushed down the depth chart.
03:10But, yeah, you're hoping to find something unexpected for value
03:16that you had to spend money on previously.
03:19Right.
03:19And then the James Pierce Jr., a couple of guys hit us up earlier on the text line.
03:22No, we don't know.
03:23The guys ask us almost every day, Abe, about this.
03:25Don't know.
03:26We looked at the Rasheed Rice thing as some, you know, trying to, you know,
03:29okay, here's where there are some timelines and how it played out with his suspension.
03:33Of course, now, in his situation, he failed a drug test administered by the Dallas DA's office.
03:37So now he's back in the Hooskow, and now who knows what happens when the NFL looks at him,
03:41and he might get suspended again by the league.
03:43James Pierce Jr. may have already done that pre-trial stuff way before we got the announcement,
03:47right before the draft.
03:48And so he might be further down the road with this than we were led to believe.
03:52And the Falcons, I'm sure, are aware of it.
03:54The media, they don't tell us.
03:55We don't know.
03:56Let me ask you the question here.
03:57And, again, this is not a definitive statement.
03:59I understand we don't know.
04:01But you definitely feel he's likely to get suspended, right?
04:05Yeah.
04:07What's the minimum?
04:08I think if you look at Rasheed Rice went to jail.
04:10If he doesn't go to jail, he's not getting six games that Rasheed Rice got.
04:13I think they may start at six.
04:14I think the NFL players, you appeal it, you get it down to three.
04:18It could be as little as three games.
04:19Okay, I would be shocked if it's less than four.
04:23Because of the violence, the perception of the violence against women.
04:26I would be surprised if it's less than four.
04:29But I'm also not going to sit here and be like, you know, I don't see how it's, you know,
04:33not eight, ten, twelve.
04:35Like, he could be hit pretty hard.
04:38And I'm preparing for that.
04:39And if you happen to get hit light or appeal and have it shrunk down to whatever it is, then
04:46even better.
04:46Where I would prepare, just me as a fan, where I'm at, I'm preparing for at least four games.
04:53The video, as we said, you know, the stuff that we did, the little parts that we did get to
04:57see.
04:57And again, I get it.
04:58We weren't trying to defend the actions, guys.
05:00It's crazy.
05:01It doesn't make a lot of sense.
05:02It's a guy who's got to get his head right.
05:04I mean, we had the conversation with a lot of Falcon fans.
05:06We had some guys with everything else, you know.
05:08Done.
05:09Go directly to jail.
05:10Do not pass go.
05:10He gets no second chance.
05:11I believe in second chance.
05:12I don't believe in third chances.
05:13I believe in second chances.
05:15And I also think there's things.
05:17Some people, look, I'd love to walk a mile in your shoes where you never had a problem with your
05:21wife
05:21or you never had a problem in a relationship or you never dated somebody who was a little unstable.
05:25You know, and obviously James Pierce Jr. needs to get some help and hopefully he's getting it.
05:28But sometimes it's a two-way street.
05:30We saw it with Marcelo Zuna and his wife.
05:31They were in a toxic relationship.
05:33You know, it's not good for either person.
05:35And Rekia Jackson and her involvement with him goes back to their time in Knoxville at the University of Tennessee.
05:39And somebody in their circle of friends probably said, you know, maybe you two aren't good together.
05:44You know, maybe this is not where this needs to be.
05:47Either way, she and her lawyers signed off on this pretrial intervention.
05:51So it was fine by her.
05:53Again, we're not trying to rationalize the behavior.
05:56But I'm just telling you, I still think it could.
05:58You say four?
05:59I would be surprised if it's less than four.
06:03So you think the NFL hits him with eight and they peel it down to four?
06:05I don't know if it'll be eight.
06:06It might be six.
06:07But I don't think it's going to be like two.
06:10Right.
06:10But the thing is, and we still don't know.
06:12We assume he'll be suspended this year.
06:14But if you go back and look at it, Rasheed Rice had his incident in the spring of 2024.
06:18And then the suspension didn't come down until the season of 2025.
06:23So he was able to compete.
06:24He got injured.
06:25People would mistake that for a suspension.
06:27That's why he didn't see that on the field for the Chiefs.
06:28I would think the Falcons are trying to get the timeline to be a little more honorable in terms of,
06:35hey, he's completed what he's needed to complete for the legal process to have run its entire course, which includes
06:41the entire six-month course.
06:44Let's go ahead and figure out what we're doing here.
06:46Now, the question I don't know is when does the NFL investigation start?
06:52Is it already underway?
06:53Does it wait until the six months and starts the investigation?
06:57And then they have to get through the investigation.
07:00And then the timeline is there.
07:01And then what does that mean for his availability?
07:03So there's still a lot of timeline questions to be answered here.
07:06But I would not expect to have – just personal opinion, no actual fact behind us, I would not expect
07:13to have him week one.
07:14Hey, man, I just saw Data just sent me while you were talking a picture of a capture of what
07:19Carl tweeted out earlier, retweeting the Falcons with Tua rolling out and throwing a football to Zachariah Branch.
07:25And he spells out T-U-A.
07:28Yeah, jiu-jitsu for sure.
07:32Now, I don't know what Carl sees in Tua, but he has been banging the drum.
07:37And I was doubting that Michael Pennix Jr. would be ready to go.
07:40He may still not be ready to go full for camp when it starts at the end of July.
07:44But I am certainly buoyed, and I'm impressed by what I've seen.
07:47And I'm changing my tune.
07:48I think Pennix Jr. will be ready to go.
07:50For a competition.
07:51I think for a competition.
07:52Now, only the coach will tell us, you know, do you get a big enough sample size if he's a
07:56week or two behind Tua?
07:58But only time will tell.
07:59But I don't know if you look at that video and you don't feel a little bit better about his
08:03situation.
08:04If you didn't.
08:04Now, some guys are already telling me, he's going to be fine.
08:06I needed to see something to know that, guys.
08:09I wasn't going to just say, okay, he'll be great.
08:11But, I mean, he's what?
08:12It's November.
08:13So, you've got December, January, February, March, April.
08:15So, six months and just a little bit over.
08:18He's moving around like that off of the partial MCL tear.
08:22Yeah, and you've still got essentially two to three months before what I believe a competition would even really begin.
08:28Again, which is when you get into training camp and go through that.
08:32And, again, we don't know about the preseason.
08:34Look, I'm kind of with you on this.
08:37We all had our concerns.
08:39Maybe you didn't.
08:39I had my concerns.
08:41I know you've had yours.
08:41And I do think the video and the conversation makes it feel at least a little more likely that he's
08:49going to be all right.
08:50But it's still not – still haven't gotten that confirmation of full clearance, 11-on-11, and he's 100%, and
08:56competition is on.
08:57And so, we're always going to be wondering until they come out and say the quarterback competition starts now and
09:02he is a full go.
09:03There are – we're waiting for this comment, Mike.
09:06There are no limitations.
09:07Hey, and the other side to this, how much stock do you put in – give me odds – that
09:12Tua wins the job and doesn't relinquish the job.
09:15And he really balls out and he fits what Stefanski's looking for and the ball comes out.
09:19I mean, odds are tough because you're begging on that.
09:21But I like 20%.
09:23Okay, 5-1.
09:245-1 shot.
09:25Okay.
09:26All right.
09:26Yeah, I'll say 20%.
09:28Okay.
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