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Mike and Abe discussed the Falcons and the quarterback situation, sharing why they believe neither Michael Penix Jr. nor Tua Tagovailoa has done enough in previous seasons to merit being named the starter outright.
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00:00here i don't care anymore get me i don't look i don't i just i'm sick and tired of arguing
00:04this
00:04stuff and it goes round and round we would love oh first off let's start we got to get to
00:09charles
00:09he's in hampton on hold get charles come right to you in a sec brother let's just check check it
00:13off checks and balances or do like for instance here's the arguments pro and con first off what
00:18do we all want to do everybody listening win okay two the offense doesn't look like crap three you
00:24know a quarterback that can handle what they're asking him to do and win the job keep the job i
00:30think we can all agree whoever that guy's going to be i would like to think pennix jr could do
00:33that
00:33all i seem to bring up which is the inconvenient truth is the medical history which guys want to
00:39just oh no that mean nothing okay you know you're you're banking on a guy who hasn't been able to
00:43finish seasons that's the that's the argument that doesn't mean i don't like see what i have
00:48and i apologize for repeating myself over the fourth time on this one today i don't understand
00:53how i i say he's got an injury history goes up to the speaker out to the you know out
00:58to the
00:58antenna comes into your car and you go i don't like i hate michael pennix it's not what i said
01:03carl and i joke around about this all the time it's like i get it you want him to succeed
01:07we i want
01:08everybody on this team to succeed including the most important position and real quick let's not get
01:13the phone call charles in the south side down in hampton hey man what are you thinking about the
01:16falcons ota started today pictures of two announced on a football what you got yeah man uh what
01:22first off what's up guys hope your day's going well hope it stays well also hey man you're just
01:28freaking me out with all this tool and michael pennix talking like i'm a diehard falcons fan have been my
01:34whole life but it's like i had to do my research after hearing you guys talk about mike mccarthy i
01:39looked up to his playoff stats he's only been to the playoff one time and i was a 27 to
01:457 loss
01:46against kansas city where he threw one touchdown one interception now i look at that compared to michael
01:51pennix he's unproven like you said and then what scares me the most is the injury history but both
01:56of these quarterbacks have the injury history i'm kind of scared we're out here walking like two and a
02:02half minutes or really one and a half minute at this point when it comes to the injuries it's just
02:06like good lord i would just like to know what's the plan we got a new head coach new quarterback
02:12the
02:13rest of the team is improving overall tremendously but i would just like to have you know some type of
02:18security with the quarterback position but thanks guys no appreciate your call thanks charles amen
02:24and real quick before i'll let you answer we felt and i don't speak for carly but i think he's
02:29commented on this he'll be back next week this season felt a little bit like a holding pattern
02:34in the way we approach the free agency we didn't like blow money we didn't blow money we didn't have
02:38to spend but we took on guys on one-year contracts i think the biggest contract was the johan
02:42dots and only because it's two years with a third year option but it's just it's almost like we got
02:47to
02:47find the quarterback this year we got to establish that quarterback you know and if we don't we got
02:52to go get a quarterback in the following draft i mean i think i think we could all agree with
02:55that
02:55if pennix doesn't have first off he's got to win that's why we're so caught up in the whole
02:59that some would say semantics of the injuries this and that but first things first if there's a
03:03quarterback competition he's got to be able to compete then you laid out the scenario last week
03:07which i thought was pretty good that if you know they're not happy with two and they really want
03:11to advance michael pennix and he's not ready at camp we just read out or read double what you said
03:16last week real quick on the pennix thesis we don't know where pennix's health is right okay
03:20kevin stefanski's talking tomorrow at ota's he's welcome to come out and say pennix is a full go
03:25quarterback competition is on if he doesn't say that or something along those lines i'm going to
03:30be left to believe that they're still working through some things with regards to the injury
03:34and there's some hurdles that he still needs to clear before full go 100 right fine if you need to
03:39buy a couple of weeks into the regular season before he's 100 who gets the start again this is all
03:44physical to we get to the start after that week three you have the mini buy thursday night all
03:49the way into monday night football it's a perfect time to make the change if two is not getting the
03:53job done you've bought yourself three extra weeks which is really almost four weeks because of the
03:57the mini buy there and so if you need to make the change there then they're great here's the thing
04:03mike you and i both agree just in terms of the future of this franchise the best thing possible
04:09would be for pennix to showcase that he is the future correct he's more controlled than than tua
04:15right so it'd be ideal in terms of an extra right two more years of salary you'd have yours uh
04:20this
04:20this year is three then four your four fifth year option and then you so the best thing which has
04:25already been negotiated when he was drafted right the best thing would be that he shows you he is the
04:29guy we're talking about from a physical standpoint here and so we're looking forward to seeing if he is
04:35the guy or not again social media team for the falcons they're going to do whatever they want
04:40to do and that's fine i would love the coach or gm to come out and say he's pretty close
04:46and we're
04:47going to have a competition they can talk about this theoretical competition all they want so can you
04:52and i but until we're there at training camp or until they're telling us that hey legitimately
04:58competition is on right i'm left to believe that pennix is not there yet see and the other thing is
05:03something we talked about earlier in the show for guys out there you know we'd like to i mean yes
05:08we like to establish a quarterback you know and the odds i i feel we're always like it was 101
05:12shot
05:13the two of balls out so much so that he's retained and uh he's our quarterback moving forward i i
05:18find
05:18i have a hard time with that one but he is certainly more qualified i mean if you just simply
05:22from
05:22experience yes he does not have a playoff win but he does have a bunch of you know 20 plus
05:27touchdowns
05:27you know almost three to one touchdowns to picks of course he also got benched at the end of the
05:31season and the offense was designed around him mike mcdaniel did everything around and because of
05:35the the histories of the contact the concussions the ball was coming out like that okay there was
05:42he's not sitting there patting the football waiting for guys go 30 yards down the field that ball is
05:45out and all the offenses yak is all yards after the catch he got the dolphins to give him 40
05:49million a
05:49year was was that all smoke and mirrors or was there something there at the time i just it's a
05:54statement about how bad quarterback play is in college and the odds are so hard to find that college
05:59quarterback the same barrel the giants were over with daniel jones the same barrel the jaguars were
06:04over with uh trevor lawrence and now they get the right coach in there and look at this but in
06:07the
06:07case of tua they had to but again the the investment with a guy with such a brittle injury history
06:13because
06:13i can a knee is one thing yes you don't want to have a quarterback in a knee injury but
06:17with two and
06:17all the concussions man that that was the that was the story one more hit and he's done like there
06:21are players and people in south florida saying he needs to step away from the game there was a time
06:25after that the the bad one that where he had the fencing reaction i was like maybe he won't play
06:30again and i i'll be honest at the time i was a little surprised he did work his way back
06:34and
06:34things haven't exactly gone great for him since then but yeah and look i just i don't think it
06:39was all smoke and mirrors that he had a couple really really elite good seasons and and so is there
06:45any of that left right because if not then it doesn't really matter with the quarterback if that's
06:51not there anyways then for all of us who are concerned about pennix not winning a quarterback
06:56competition it's not gonna matter if two is not any good it's not gonna matter it's only this whole
07:02time by the way it's only been about health for me right i i think almost everyone except for tua
07:08probably would prefer michael pennix win a quarterback competition and be your starter week one i would
07:13prefer that right i want to see it then again we're hoping that moving forward the knee thing doesn't
07:18crop up there's no there are no worries about that and we're on and again you know it'll always
07:23for me as a falcon fan i'm not gonna lie to you it's gonna be the back of my mind
07:26but you hope he
07:27gets on with i mean there's not many and that's the thing i was arguing with the guy earlier on
07:30the
07:30youtube thing there's been a lot of injuries to quarterbacks but usually for like a tom brady it's
07:34one peyton had that bizarre neck injury but you know it wasn't like there was a litany of injuries
07:39they thought his career was over correct he had to switch teams yes if he was he had to step
07:44away yeah
07:44but in the case of and in the case of you know to a tongue of iloa that's a concern
07:48and with this
07:49like it happened from i'm not gonna i'm gonna say the words it's bad juju about another injury
07:53got time for one more oran i got a jet all right day day says we must take one call
07:57because these
07:58guys are on hold we appreciate it kendall indicator where it's greater hey special k hey man you're on
08:02dukes and bell what you got what's going on fellas what's going on hey man i will tell you this
08:09man
08:09it doesn't matter which one of them two bums they throw out there and i say that wholeheartedly
08:13knowing that i i could never play the position to call another professional athlete a bum
08:17but it doesn't matter which one of those cats they throw out there we got a little good season
08:22coming up and the more we get we understand that we got to own that it's tank for 27 y
08:27'all need to
08:28get it through your head it's really that simple now day day by the way is shaking his head behind
08:33a glass look appreciate the call brother we ought to catch a break he's not the only guy who feels
08:36that
08:36way i mean it just sucks when you have eight years that would be nine years when you're going on
08:40nearly
08:41a decade of not making a playoffs you're just below the jets you know or above the jets but
08:45that's no accomplishment but if you find the right guy those those years in the desert aren't going
08:49to be that bad if you come out of it on the other side but i mean look as as
08:52much as it pains me i'm
08:53with day day i want to win i want i don't care how if penix jr wins the job hopefully
08:57then he holds
08:58on to it and we imagine we win 10 games at michael penix jr starting the majority of the season
09:02then we're off and running all right then we're not worried about drafting a quarterback next year you
09:07know or we struggle and then we potentially get into that top 10 and there's going to be now again
09:13only time i'll tell guys right now four four guys four or five names crop up for a starting quarterback
09:18some guys you guys feel it too short you know everybody wants arch banning it was only going
09:22to go to one team you know we've got to be the worst team in the league i don't think
09:24we're bad
09:25enough to be the worst team in the league game and no one's going to come off that pick much
09:28talent
09:28on off you're not if you don't have arch banning guys then then there's then we can discuss
09:31everybody else i'm you want saying from ohio state donte moore no not i'm not interested i don't
09:37believe in him i do not you know my guy trinidad jambless this guy's my height you know what pipe
09:42down six foot ish
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