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Following the elbow Wemby threw at Naz Reid that resulted in a Flagrant 2 and ejection, Hoch and Crowder believe the NBA is making the right decision not suspending one of the leagues biggest stars.
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00:00Obviously, the NBA draft lottery happened, the heat, they didn't move up anywhere.
00:04They end at 13, which is where they were slotted.
00:07They never move up anywhere.
00:09This is a never-ending movie.
00:12This is a never-ending movie.
00:14If anybody watched that draft lottery, if you didn't expect 13 to pop up,
00:18you haven't watched the other draft lotteries.
00:21You don't look at trends.
00:24We never trend up.
00:25I don't always buy into trends.
00:27This one, I kind of had a feeling that the trend was going to...
00:30Regardless, that's going on.
00:33Giannis is being actively shopped.
00:36That's what Sham Sharanya says.
00:37I want to talk about that today.
00:41And Wemby, I want to talk about what happened yesterday.
00:44He's not going to be suspended at all.
00:46I had a parlay last night.
00:48I had a $50 bonus bet that I used on a parlay.
00:54Wemby, I bought him down to $20.
00:5620, Wemby over 20, Ant over 20.
00:59It was going to be the easiest parlay.
01:01I was going to laugh my way back to the $50 that I had lost to get me the $50
01:06bonus bet
01:07so that I could get the $50 back in cash in my account.
01:11And he got bounced, you know, and it wasn't like an injury.
01:15So there's no injury insurance.
01:17I lost that parlay because he's a jerk.
01:22Is he a jerk or they found his weakness?
01:25What's his weakness?
01:26Get under his skin?
01:28His emotion, yeah.
01:29Get under his skin.
01:30They were beating him up, pushing him down, grabbing him, and he couldn't handle it.
01:35They found his weakness.
01:36Man, keep those only elbows to yourself, Jack.
01:40And he lined him up, though, too.
01:42Slow motion when he turned, look, put his elbow up and banged him.
01:48That was, you know, like sometimes you watch something in slow-mo and you're like,
01:51I don't think he meant to.
01:52That dude meant every inch of that elbow.
01:57Yes, he did.
01:58I'm arguing because, you know, he's going to change the game.
02:01Man, you know, he didn't mean to do that.
02:03Slow-mo.
02:04Yeah, he meant to do that.
02:06Yeah.
02:07I'll tell you, I understand why they don't suspend him because I didn't watch the rest
02:12of the game.
02:13Yeah.
02:14And I wouldn't watch the next one.
02:15I swear to you, I turned the game off because I enjoy watching Wemby.
02:23So precedent says he should be suspended for multiple games, by the way.
02:29Yeah.
02:30TV ratings.
02:31Viewership and NBA interest.
02:35Don't let that man miss a game.
02:38And the paint was wide open after that.
02:43I stand with Adam Silver on this one, man.
02:47Goodness gracious.
02:49You want to make him punish him?
02:51Tell him he's got to wear puffy elbow bands.
02:56He's just like, do something embarrassing, but do not let him miss the game.
03:01I would rather them give him a public pow-pow than make him miss game five.
03:10That's funny.
03:11That's what Adam Silver should sentence him to.
03:14At half court, I will put you over my knee.
03:17I'm going to spank you five times.
03:21And then you're going to get out there and you're going to play hard.
03:23There we go.
03:25You need to tell me these rules.
03:26We figured this thing out.
03:30So I wonder what you guys are more, I don't want to say like upset about or just frustrated
03:37or just interested in overall.
03:39The heat landing at 13.
03:41I know you said you expected it, but I am bummed about the entire situation.
03:47A lot of people are pointing out the NBA's clear hypocrisy with Victor Wemba-Nyama.
03:53And I'm with you, Hawk.
03:53I want to watch Wemby too.
03:55But clearly, this is ridiculous that he's not being suspended.
04:00Or the fact that Giannis Antetokounmpo is being shopped by the Milwaukee Bucks ahead of the NBA draft.
04:10I wonder like what it is that you guys are most interested in.
04:14I mean, none of them are shocking, right?
04:17The heat ending up at 13 is not shocking.
04:21The Bucks shopping Giannis, not shocking.
04:23He told us they were going to have a resolution.
04:26Either he was going to sign a max with them or they were going to figure out what was best.
04:31And then the Wemby thing, the elbow was shocking.
04:36The results of it are not.
04:38He was not going to get.
04:41Do you realize what he could mean for the league if he's in the Western Conference finals
04:46and then the NBA championship?
04:47Could you imagine a Spurs with Wemby, Knicks, NBA finals?
04:55Look out below.
04:57That's what they want.
04:58That's what they want.
05:00They have the Spurs.
05:00That's how it's lining up to me.
05:03Castle, Vassell, they're good.
05:04They have no chance to get out the West without Wemby.
05:07I think they can't win this series without Wemby.
05:09So you want to see the best basketball?
05:12You need Wemby and Yama in the game.
05:13Yama's thing is most exciting to me because now we're back on the clock with Pat.
05:18So let's go get Yama's and put him with Bam and see what we can do.
05:22But, yeah, I fully understand the Wemby thing.
05:26And Nas Reed, he did a little acting.
05:28He got bold, but he fell on the ground, did a back flip.
05:32He leaned into the elbow.
05:33And Wemby's elbow circumference, you can't adjust for that.
05:39You know, when you're suspending someone, that's not fair.
05:41Most guys go like this.
05:43I mean, you're really up on someone.
05:45And Wemby's doing this, but his span is out there.
05:49And so I understand him not being suspended now that I talk it through.
05:52Yeah.
05:53He could elbow everybody in the elevator at the same time.
05:56Yeah.
05:57He could knock down.
05:58He could knock down 10 pins in a bowling lane without stepping over the line with no ball.
06:08Great point, Hawk.
06:10And his elbow is the size of a number two pencil.
06:13Did it really hurt that bad?
06:15Right.
06:15That's the other thing, too.
06:17If anything got hurt, it was his elbow.
06:20Nas Reed should be suspended, maybe, for hurting Wemby's elbow.
06:24Jimmy just, Solana sent a private message to Jimmy on the chat.
06:28Wake up, Jimmy.
06:28It's only 2.18.
06:30I didn't look at Jimmy.
06:31Is he falling asleep?
06:32I'm off.
06:32I'm off.
06:33I mean, he was dozing off.
06:35Not dozing.
06:36Dozing off.
06:37He's like Trump in the Oval Office.
06:40He's catching himself.
06:43Jimmy, are you still recovering from Friday, brother?
06:45Yeah.
06:46I saw you drink a screwdriver because he sent me a pick.
06:49Yeah.
06:50It was delicious.
06:51I bet.
06:52Hawk, Jimmy found one but would refuse to shoot.
06:56Oh, yeah?
06:56Well, listen, sometimes the predator circles his prey for a while.
07:03Buzzards wait till they're dead.
07:05And he's a buzzard.
07:06He's not a predator.
07:08He's still circling this girl.
07:11She's only 30, so he got a ways to go.
07:13Wait till they take their last breath.
07:16Oh, Jimmy got buzzard game.
07:18I didn't know, man.
07:22Jimmy was looking good on Friday night.
07:26Brought out the church shoes.
07:28He brought out the nice, I mean, it's a guayabera, but it's a Columbia guayabera.
07:34So it's, you know, I don't know.
07:36I don't know how you're hearing.
07:37Like Columbia brand?
07:37Like Columbia brand guayabera.
07:40I don't know how your ancestors would feel about that one, Jimmy.
07:44But either way, Jimmy was having a good time.
07:47He was mingling.
07:48He was taking pictures.
07:50People love Jimmy.
07:51Yeah.
07:52Jimmy was fun.
07:53But he never went by the girl with the frosted tips.
07:57Frosted tips, Jimmy.
08:01Frips.
08:06Jumbo, say, what's up, Jumbo?
08:08No.
08:11Just give me a second here.
08:13I'm just scratching Wemby not suspended off my list of things because clearly you guys
08:17aren't taking any of this seriously.
08:19So I'll just.
08:19What are you talking about?
08:20You're going to be the opposing side.
08:23I mean, what are you guys talking about?
08:24Listen, you don't want to see Tiger in the Masters.
08:27Of course, you don't want to see Wemby in the NBA playoffs.
08:29I mean, you don't want to see any greatness anywhere.
08:33It's not that it's not that I don't want to see greatness.
08:35It's not that I don't want to see Wemby play.
08:38Obviously, I want to see Wemby play.
08:40I love watching Victor Wemby.
08:41But what type of message is the NBA sending here?
08:46This is a slippery slope.
08:47I'm not.
08:48Oh, stop it.
08:48The message they're sending is we'd like you to watch our product.
08:51We're all going.
08:52Well, thanks, because Wemby is the guy who makes us want to watch the product.
08:55There's multiple, multiple incidents of players throwing an elbow.
09:00The windup was there.
09:02The contact was there.
09:04And this fits the bill of a flagrant two, which was properly assessed on the floor, properly ejected.
09:12Victor Wemby, I'm pretending like he didn't know that you get ejected after getting a flagrant two.
09:17Also might be the most ridiculous thing.
09:18Mitch Johnson taping up for Victor Wemby, I'm talking about the physicality that he endures.
09:24You know, it was ridiculous.
09:26Like, bro, he got frustrated.
09:27He threw an elbow.
09:29He deserves to be suspended for a game, because if it happened to any other player,
09:33do you think LeBron would have been suspended for that?
09:36No.
09:37He should be, though.
09:38No, no, no.
09:39SGA.
09:40SGA.
09:41LeBron.
09:43No.
09:44Okay.
09:44Welcome to the real world.
09:46They shouldn't be suspended for that.
09:49Neither should Victor Wemby, Yama.
09:51Draymond Green does it.
09:52Dylan Brooks does it.
09:54Suspend the ass.
09:55Yeah.
09:55Real world.
09:57This is real world.
09:59If it was the other way, if Nas Reed did that to Wemby, Nas is missing game five.
10:03Perhaps criminal charges.
10:05He's going to jail.
10:07And I'm one of the complainants.
10:09You got to be realistic, Solana.
10:11It's the real world.
10:13But I am being realistic.
10:14For all you youngsters out there, this is a great lesson in how the real world works.
10:18Make yourself so valuable to something that you don't have to follow the rules that others do.
10:24Hmm.
10:28I'm trying to look it up, Solana.
10:29You might know.
10:30Name something else that happened where guys get suspended for multiple games.
10:34Yeah.
10:34So, Ron, there's a video now.
10:36Ron Artest?
10:37When he...
10:37Ron Artest is crazy.
10:39Ron Artest threw an elbow.
10:41It was the second to last game of the regular season.
10:43The Lakers were playing Oklahoma City.
10:45And he threw an elbow.
10:47You probably remember.
10:48Hits James Harden.
10:49He had scored.
10:50He was celebrating.
10:51Just threw an elbow.
10:52Hits James Harden.
10:53Because he was Ron Artest.
10:54And that was James Harden.
10:55He throws an elbow.
10:57Real world.
10:57He gets suspended for the final regular season game.
11:00And the first six postseason games.
11:03Deserved.
11:04For a Lakers team, by the way, that was competing in the playoffs that year.
11:09It was Kobe Bryant.
11:10Hassan Whiteside.
11:11I just saw the video.
11:12Somebody reposted it.
11:14They were playing the San Antonio Spurs.
11:15It was regular season.
11:16Hassan Whiteside threw an elbow.
11:18I think he hit Tiago Splitter in the face.
11:21Hassan Whiteside faced a one-game suspension.
11:24Definitely analogous.
11:25A regular season game with Hassan Whiteside versus a postseason game with Victor Wembenyama.
11:31I see your point.
11:33I'm not telling you it's analogous in terms of the cachet of the player throwing it.
11:39What I'm telling you is that there's a clear hypocrisy by the league, which is our superstars
11:43can do whatever they want.
11:44They won't face any penalties.
11:46And everybody else has to play by different rules.
11:49Do whatever he wants.
11:50He didn't eat the guy's ear off.
11:52He threw an elbow.
11:53Dennis Rodman took time off from the postseason to go be in Vegas and wrestle.
12:00Be so good and so intriguing at what you do that you can get away.
12:06Are you calling in hypocrisy if you want everything to be judged?
12:10Player one, player two.
12:12No names behind it.
12:13You should have a standard for things that happen no matter who's a part of it.
12:17I think there's some leeway for certain instances.
12:19But for this instance here, specifically, this is a player who threw an obvious elbow.
12:27There was windup.
12:28There was contact.
12:29It was unnecessary contact.
12:31He was ejected from the game.
12:33And because the NBA doesn't want to hurt its bottom line, they're willing to bypass a suspension.
12:38And I think that's bogus.
12:39I'm not saying suspend them for the entire series.
12:41I think a one game suspension is fair.
12:44There's suspensions for other guys.
12:46I thought I was reading the other T for embellishment.
12:50Flopping.
12:51Crazy.
12:52It's crazy.
12:53You say that it's a player.
12:54That's what I'm saying.
12:55You want everything to be judged as a player.
12:57Not Victor Wibanyama, the future of our sport.
13:00We're going to kick him out for a game.
13:02But just player A.
13:03You can't look at it like that.
13:04That's unrealistic.
13:05This guy in the chat says it best.
13:07You know what's really ridiculous, Solana?
13:09Bam shooting 85 free throws to score 83.
13:12Yeah.
13:14You guys gave Bam his props for about a week and a half.
13:17And now...
13:18I just did that to annoy you, not for Bam.
13:20That was just to annoy you.
13:22You annoyed me this morning on our text thread when we're talking about Disney World.
13:27We don't have time to get through, but like...
13:29I could not screenshot and text that fast enough to Whittingham and a pal.
13:34Because I was, I mean, in my bag.
13:39He's asking me if I've been on Guardians of the Galaxy at Epcot.
13:42I don't remember.
13:44It's such a great...
13:46It's such a great response.
13:48Because that's what you want the old guy, like, to not be able to...
13:52So that infuriates the young person.
13:54What do you mean you don't remember?
13:55It's the greatest roller coaster.
13:57I go, oh, the roller...
13:58Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
13:59I was on it.
14:00You get to be Aerosmith.
14:02Well, just...
14:04Just having the best time.
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