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00:00:07And here it is, Alan Freed's Rock'n'Roll Party!
00:00:12And here he is in person, Alan Freed!
00:00:17Hello everybody, how y'all?
00:00:19Welcome to our Rock'n'Roll Jubilee of Stars!
00:00:22And here we go to rockin'!
00:00:24When I was a kid, I remember hearing Alan Freed on the radio.
00:00:28And he announced that he was having a rock'n'Roll show.
00:00:33No one knew what that was.
00:00:36And I took the subway to the Brooklyn Paramount.
00:00:39And there were thousands and thousands of people waiting on line.
00:00:57And when that show started, it was the most unbelievable thing I'd ever seen in my life.
00:01:10Everybody could sing their asshole.
00:01:16Things just shot off that stage and entered my heart and have stayed with me for the rest of my
00:01:23life.
00:01:27One, check, one, hey, check, check.
00:01:34We had him like three and like, uh...
00:01:37I have the boatmaster set at the table.
00:01:43You can do whatever you want.
00:01:47Hello?
00:01:48Hello?
00:01:49What did you do with your jack?
00:01:51You can't see him.
00:01:52A lack of luxury.
00:01:54That's right, you see how it's set up back here.
00:01:56Oh, man, look who's here.
00:01:57Is this rock'n'Roll?
00:01:58It is now.
00:02:00It just became rock'n'Roll.
00:02:02It's not rock'n'Roll as people know it anyway, right?
00:02:05No.
00:02:06As most people know it.
00:02:07I don't know what this is.
00:02:08I don't know.
00:02:09We're keeping something going.
00:02:12Oh, darling.
00:02:13Oh, darling.
00:02:16Whoa, oh, oh, my darling.
00:02:18Anybody here from Brooklyn?
00:02:19Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:02:27You know, when I was a kid,
00:02:29I remember seeing James Shepherd
00:02:32and the heartbeats.
00:02:35Pookie Hudson and the Spaniels.
00:02:39I saw the turbans there with those yellow suits.
00:02:43Congratulations?
00:02:44Yeah. Congratulations.
00:02:49Congratulations on your new love affair.
00:02:53You have my best wishes.
00:02:57Congratulations by the Turbans, the follow-up to When You Dance.
00:03:06I'm basically stalling for time now because I gotta hit this very high now.
00:03:30There's nothing better than playing music that you love.
00:03:34The spirit of it, the passion of it, it fills you up from the inside.
00:03:49We've carried these songs with us through the years.
00:03:54They live inside of us.
00:04:00This is where it all started.
00:04:03It's the music of the unsung heroes of rock and roll.
00:04:18It's Kenny, listen. I just got off the exit. I'll be there as soon as I can.
00:04:24You gonna play some Jane the American stuff or what?
00:04:29Waiting for me to come? Okay.
00:04:30I got wisdom of a fool with me.
00:04:33I got the guitar. I learned she cried.
00:04:36And we could do this is it. And we could have a ball.
00:04:42Okay. See you later.
00:04:46Now, now, now, back to Friday night duo.
00:04:50If, if, if, if, with Rick McCaffrey and the solid gold jukebox.
00:04:53And this is Aldi's 97. We have three of the four original members of Jane the Americans here in the
00:04:59studio.
00:05:00And we're expecting Kenny Vance any minute.
00:05:02We are really super excited about having Jay Traynor and the Americans here.
00:05:07Forty years of the anniversary of She Cried, number two record in America.
00:05:11And I haven't been able to sleep for days.
00:05:13Get it right.
00:05:15Okay, see.
00:05:16We had a request for this one.
00:05:19Heart and soul.
00:05:22I fell in love with you.
00:05:25Heart and soul.
00:05:29The way a fool would do madly.
00:05:35Because you held me tight.
00:05:38Help me tight.
00:05:40Help me tight.
00:05:41Help me tight.
00:05:41Help me tight.
00:05:42Help me tight.
00:05:43Help me tight.
00:05:44And stole a kiss there in the night.
00:05:50Heart and soul.
00:05:53I beg to be adored.
00:05:56Lord.
00:05:56Yes.
00:05:57And I lost control.
00:05:59And tumbled overboard.
00:06:03Glad me.
00:06:06That magic night, we kiss.
00:06:09That we kiss.
00:06:10That we kiss.
00:06:10That we kiss.
00:06:11That we kiss.
00:06:12That we kiss.
00:06:14That we kiss.
00:06:14That we kiss.
00:06:15That we kiss.
00:06:16That we kiss.
00:06:16That we kiss.
00:06:17That we kiss.
00:06:19Hold on just a second.
00:06:20Hello.
00:06:21After this song, you can talk to Jay Traynor.
00:06:23I'm so excited.
00:06:25Okay, how you doing?
00:06:26Looks good, right?
00:06:27Yeah.
00:06:27Good luck, bud.
00:06:28Think about it.
00:06:29What's happening?
00:06:31Gary, nice jacket.
00:06:32Thank you, I got it.
00:06:33Shut up, man.
00:06:34How would you feel about doing She Cried Live?
00:06:37We haven't even seen each other in a while.
00:06:40Recently.
00:06:41I mean, I'm trying to think we could do maybe something simple.
00:06:46I don't know, whatever you want to do.
00:06:48To me, the really great group record is the follow-up to She Cried, which is This Is It.
00:06:55Uh-huh.
00:06:55I listen to it and I'm taken back by the drumming artist.
00:06:57I think it's Gary Chester.
00:06:58Gary Chester.
00:06:59Yeah, where this guy kicks on this thing.
00:07:00I mean, it's such a, like a drum machine.
00:07:02It's unbelievable.
00:07:03Let's play it.
00:07:04Let's play it.
00:07:04Great.
00:07:05This is the Friday Night Doo-Wop Show.
00:07:07We are featuring the 40th anniversary reunion of the original Jay and the Americans here
00:07:12here tonight.
00:07:16She doesn't love me anymore.
00:07:25She doesn't want my kisses.
00:07:30Great songs.
00:07:31Great songs.
00:07:32Great songs.
00:07:32I know that this is it for me.
00:07:39It's amazing seeing these guys that I harmonized with in my mother's basement when I was 16.
00:07:46When we started, we were basically a doo-wop group emulating music that we heard on the radio.
00:07:55Just guys from the neighborhood that kept having the hit records.
00:07:58Oh, for me.
00:08:02This is it for me.
00:08:04This is it.
00:08:05And I know, I know, I know.
00:08:07This is it.
00:08:09That this is it for me.
00:08:13I'll tell you, you guys got real potential.
00:08:17No, you know, in those days, the way groups started were, you know, none of us really knew any music.
00:08:23So, you know, if you were lucky enough to have three guys on three different notes instead of all the
00:08:31guys on the same note,
00:08:32the three guys hit three different notes, it was immediate eye contact, and the next day, we bought suits and
00:08:41took pictures.
00:08:44That's true.
00:09:02I'm starting to lie to me because I don't love you.
00:09:09Take me to the clock, take me to the clock, take me to the clock, take me to the clock.
00:09:16What time is it?
00:09:20I just got to know what time is it.
00:09:26It's 8 o'clock, now I've got her doors up, and my heart is beating fast.
00:09:37Go straight, go straight, go straight.
00:09:40We're going to take this here straight out.
00:09:46What time is it?
00:09:50It's time to fall.
00:09:52Yeah, projects here, they used to have a lot.
00:09:56A lot of dancers right there in the park.
00:10:00This is the Kingsborough Projects.
00:10:03And down here, this is where the rocket tones and the jesters that came out of these projects down here.
00:10:12We used to come down here.
00:10:14They had like the Battle of the Groups.
00:10:17And the Jive Five, we used to come over to party.
00:10:22Yeah.
00:10:23That's the only time they let us in, because all the girls would come out.
00:10:27Come out to hear the Jive Five singing in the hallway.
00:10:30Never, never, never, no.
00:10:34Those were good days.
00:10:36A lot of fun.
00:10:37Oh, wow.
00:10:38Never, never, never.
00:10:41Because I love you so whole.
00:10:46And you know.
00:10:47Norman Johnston, who used to live on Myrtle Avenue.
00:10:51Richard Harris, who used to live right here on Hart Street, number seven.
00:10:56Jerome Hannah used to live down here on Pulaski Street.
00:10:59He was lucky?
00:11:00Yeah, lucky.
00:11:01Yeah.
00:11:01And me, Eugene Pitt and Billy Proffitt on Myrtle Avenue.
00:11:04Then we had the persuasions in this area.
00:11:09We had the strangers in this neighborhood.
00:11:12Lil' Anthony might come from down the projects.
00:11:15They were down the Fort Green project.
00:11:18And at night, you know, when it was quiet,
00:11:21you can hear harmonies.
00:11:23You know, like the...
00:11:25You hear it in the air.
00:11:26Hear it in the air.
00:11:27I said, Dad, where them guys singing from?
00:11:29You know, you would go over on the side where they were saying,
00:11:32say, you know, let us hit one.
00:11:34All right.
00:11:34And then our group, we'd start singing,
00:11:38one of the girls might like ours better.
00:11:41It was always like a battle to impress the girls.
00:11:45A lot of fun.
00:11:46Are we still trying to do that?
00:11:48Well, now, no.
00:11:50No.
00:11:52No way, huh?
00:11:53No.
00:11:53This is one of our plaid situations.
00:11:58Here's Wally.
00:11:59These are killers, man.
00:12:01How old were you?
00:12:03Yeah, about 17.
00:12:04Unbelievable.
00:12:06You always will remember
00:12:17You'll never will forget
00:12:36Vernon, Crump, and Robbie were always harmonizing from the time they were 12 or 13 years old.
00:12:45Vernon was the baritone.
00:12:47Robbie was the second tenor.
00:12:49And Crump was the first tenor.
00:12:51We met at Woodrow Wilson High School.
00:12:54They were looking for a bass singer.
00:12:55You'll go your way.
00:12:57I never sang in a group before.
00:12:59You'll go your way.
00:13:02My voice made it complete as far as the four-part harmony.
00:13:06And we started looking for somebody that was really a lead, lead singer.
00:13:11You'll go your way.
00:13:14We picked up Shep after we were together for about a year.
00:13:18And we rehearsed basically 24-7.
00:13:21You did?
00:13:22Every day.
00:13:22Every day we rehearsed.
00:13:26You're driving me crazy
00:13:35I know what it feels like to be part of a group.
00:13:39There's something special about it.
00:13:42When you guys are together.
00:13:43Especially when you're on.
00:13:44Everybody's always nervous and waiting for the note to come down.
00:13:49Once the note comes down and you can feel it.
00:13:52Feel the vibration of the harmony being at its best.
00:13:56And you're getting out the tones and the sounds.
00:14:00It's just outrageous.
00:14:02There's nothing like it.
00:14:04Because it's 100% pure music.
00:14:08The purest you can get is human voices.
00:14:13And you could cry based on just certain melodies.
00:14:22I remember hearing the heartbeats on the radio.
00:14:25Because Alan Fried on Saturday had the countdown.
00:14:27And you guys are always right up there.
00:14:30For me, as a kid, the sound of the heartbeats made me crazy.
00:14:35And I went to the Brooklyn Paramount.
00:14:38And one of the names on the marquee is the heartbeats.
00:14:42The curtain went up.
00:14:43And you had Sam the Man Taylor and Big Al Sears, Panama Francis.
00:14:49How did it go?
00:14:50Da-da-da-da-da, dee-da-dee-da, dee-da-dee-da.
00:15:00Seeing Alan Fried coming out there,
00:15:02it was like larger than life.
00:15:07What can you say but sensational all over the world?
00:15:12Frankie Lyman, a 13-year-old youngster with a great way with the song.
00:15:17And the teenagers.
00:15:31Baby, baby, how I want you.
00:15:34Baby, baby, how I need you.
00:15:36Baby, baby, you're the only one.
00:15:39One, two, three, four.
00:15:41Baby, baby, how I miss you.
00:15:44Baby, baby, long to kiss you.
00:15:47Baby, baby, say you want me.
00:15:49Two, three, four, five.
00:15:52You're my favorite.
00:15:53When I saw Frankie Lyman and the teenagers come out, I never forgot.
00:15:58They just shot off of that stage.
00:16:02This was the most extraordinary stuff I had ever heard.
00:16:06You just want to start jumping.
00:16:08You just want to start vibrating.
00:16:11I used to play it over and over and over again.
00:16:14I couldn't get enough of it.
00:16:17It was just like, what is this?
00:16:19What is this?
00:16:22It just connected to your soul.
00:17:11I can remember when I got out on stage, the light hit me and I was gone.
00:17:16Baby, if I hold your hand, you will understand and maybe...
00:17:32I remember singing the whole song and coming to and realizing,
00:17:37I finished this.
00:17:38Where was I?
00:17:39I was out.
00:17:41I was totally up into the light.
00:18:12It's wild to be here because I know Arlene.
00:18:15They know me as Miss Smith.
00:18:17Miss Smith.
00:18:18So we'll do Miss Smith today.
00:18:21Okay.
00:18:21Okay.
00:18:21So I know Miss Smith from a whole other way.
00:18:27And Miss Smith is shy.
00:18:29I know that.
00:18:30And she's very modest too.
00:18:31But when Miss Smith was only a couple of years older than you guys,
00:18:36when she was around 12,
00:18:40she and some friends in the neighborhood,
00:18:43they started to have a singing group.
00:18:46And Miss Smith wrote a few songs and they made some records.
00:18:49And when I was a little kid,
00:18:51we would go into the hallways or into the bathroom
00:18:56where they had a good echo sound.
00:18:59And we would imitate Miss Smith's songs.
00:19:03Miss Smith's songs.
00:19:04He's gone.
00:19:10I don't know where, but he's gone.
00:19:17I don't know where, but he's gone.
00:19:17I must have done something wrong.
00:19:35As a youngster, all I wanted to do was sing.
00:19:39I went to a Catholic school.
00:19:41We had to learn the music of the church,
00:19:44the Latin hymns and Gregorian jazz.
00:19:47I didn't envision myself as part of a group.
00:19:50I just knew that my voice was going to be associated with music.
00:19:55I'm sorry you're gone.
00:20:05Gone.
00:20:13That was nice.
00:20:25I told you, yes, yes.
00:20:31Why don't you be my girlfriend?
00:20:34Gentlemen, gentlemen, gentlemen, yo, what look like?
00:20:38We got royalty here tonight.
00:20:40Oh, I know, my love.
00:20:42All right.
00:20:45Oh, wow.
00:20:45Thanks for coming down.
00:20:47Wow.
00:20:47Pleasure, man.
00:20:48Pleasure.
00:20:49You know, there's somebody here from Japan that I want you to know.
00:20:51Oh, yeah.
00:20:52Oh, yeah?
00:20:53I don't know where he is.
00:20:54Yeah.
00:20:55I didn't see him.
00:20:55He knows the dubs, you know, he knows the whole history.
00:20:59I bet that he would know who played bass on him.
00:21:03That's the kind of guy he is.
00:21:04Yeah.
00:21:04That's the kind of guy he is.
00:21:05Where is Yoshi?
00:21:06I didn't see him.
00:21:08I don't know.
00:21:09Who is this?
00:21:10That's my granddaughter.
00:21:12Oh, beautiful.
00:21:13That's the love of my life.
00:21:17Yoshi, this is Cleveland Stills.
00:21:20Hello, how are you?
00:21:20Hello.
00:21:21Pleasure to meet you.
00:21:22Yoshi, from Japan.
00:21:24It's a pleasure.
00:21:25Do you remember the dubs?
00:21:26Sure.
00:21:27Could this be magic?
00:21:28Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:21:29How about that?
00:21:29He named his company.
00:21:32Yeah, be magic.
00:21:33Yoshi has a record company in Japan.
00:21:36Oh, yeah.
00:21:37Take a picture of you too.
00:21:37Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:21:38That's a good idea.
00:21:39Is it on?
00:21:40Yeah.
00:21:41Yeah, you can.
00:21:44Oh, my God.
00:21:48You know, when I hear these chords, it reminds me of the days of the Brooklyn Paramount.
00:21:57When I was waiting in line, I was a little kid, and I'd go in there, and groups like the
00:22:03dubs would be up there on the stage, and they'd be doing stuff like this.
00:22:11Cleveland, why don't you come up here and show us how to do it, my man?
00:22:20Show it.
00:22:27Doesn't that make your heart feel good?
00:22:39Oh, could this be magic, my dear, having your love?
00:22:51Oh, my friends were upset, so far from above, I thought that it could be just a memory.
00:23:17I met Richard, and Richard was singing with Five Wings at the time.
00:23:22Everybody's doing something, they're singing, you go by, you hear them, you say,
00:23:25wait, I got a couple of guys over my way, we'll try them out and see what they sound like.
00:23:31I said, well, Clee, you guys got a nice background, you know?
00:23:34I said, yeah, you got a nice lead, you know?
00:23:37That's what I needed, I needed a good lead singer, you know, because I was trying to do it,
00:23:40and I didn't think my voice was good enough to handle the pressure, you know?
00:23:46So, you were changing personnel, like, overnight.
00:23:49Just about every night, you were changing personnel until you got the voice that you wanted.
00:24:09The bubbling enthusiasm of our teenagers was the inspiration for what is now
00:24:13the most popular style of music in the country, rock and roll.
00:24:18A few short weeks ago, five teenage boys went into a recording studio,
00:24:23and they said they had a song they wanted to sing.
00:24:25It is now the number one record in America, and the song is
00:24:28Why Do Fools Fall In Love?
00:24:31And I'll call themselves the teenagers.
00:24:36In my bedroom, all I could hear is
00:24:38My father playing brackets
00:24:58And he would be imitating the horn parts
00:25:11And I'm listening to all of this,
00:25:14And I'm in the hallway with three other guys,
00:25:16and we're singing what's on the radio.
00:25:20Do-do-do-do-do-do, see the brain
00:25:22Sweetheart, well it's time to go
00:25:27Watch this
00:25:27Dead-doom-bop-de-doom-bop-de-doom-bop-de-doom
00:25:34De-doom-bop-de-doom-bopло
00:25:36-doom-bop-doom-bop
00:25:56Frankie Lyman and the Teenagers, that was the American sensation.
00:26:01George Goldner had that group.
00:26:04He was a cat who made records, signed groups, owned the record company,
00:26:11directed the promotion, what he let out of the bag when he created Tico,
00:26:18and when he created Rama, and when he created Gone and End, and when he created G.
00:26:26Nobody's ever been able to duplicate.
00:26:29The major record companies all of a sudden had to take notice and say,
00:26:33what are these guys doing?
00:26:35You know, all of a sudden the world has changed.
00:26:38Our artists are no longer succeeding.
00:26:40Kids ain't buying those records, man.
00:26:43They're buying Frankie Lyman's next record, you know?
00:26:46The Cleftones' next record, okay?
00:26:50Flamingos, Chantels.
00:26:52He was the man.
00:26:53He was the man.
00:26:56Without him, I don't know where we would be.
00:26:59George was into hits and stars.
00:27:02That's what it was all about.
00:27:11I heard Frankie Lyman on the radio.
00:27:15But when I heard Helen Friese say he was 13, the bell rang.
00:27:18I said, he's 13, I should be doing this.
00:27:23We went to his block on 162nd Street, and we stalked him.
00:27:27I guess that was stalking, because we'd come on his block and wait to see if he came out of
00:27:32his house.
00:27:33And we'd get dressed up and go to the show and wait backstage.
00:27:37And that's how we finally connected.
00:27:51One thing I can say, we were well-trained for tone and pitchers.
00:27:56So when you heard all of those harmonies interchanging, it was beautiful.
00:28:03So when we went to audition, we brought that training.
00:28:12We went walking into George Goldman's office, and we sang the plea.
00:28:16And he pulled the contracts from office to one, two, and three.
00:28:21And we had to take them home and have them son.
00:28:23It was no problem.
00:28:25Kiss them.
00:28:26It was just like, let's go.
00:28:27It was incredible.
00:28:28It was incredible.
00:28:45This night is making me remember my first teenage girlfriend from Brooklyn, a girl named Barbara Hunt.
00:28:53Really?
00:28:53Yeah, it's funny.
00:28:54I remember her name and everything.
00:28:55And I remember songs like Mr. Lee and Tonight, Tonight for the Mellow Kings.
00:28:59That's what it brings back.
00:29:00That song was written about me.
00:29:01Are you remembering your first woman on the road also?
00:29:03Hey, you got Traveling Stranger by Little Man.
00:29:07Traveling Stranger.
00:29:08I'll tell you a good story.
00:29:10Because Jay said about his first girlfriend, so Anthony was telling this story.
00:29:14He says, you know, I remember my first girlfriend.
00:29:16He says, I used to be on a train.
00:29:18I was going from Brooklyn.
00:29:20I was taking the A train to Harlem to see this little girl.
00:29:25I don't think of my memories.
00:29:27That's another story anyway.
00:29:28Right, right, right.
00:29:29Son.
00:29:30You'll get sued.
00:29:32I'll reach a contract.
00:29:36You know, from J Street and Burrow Hall, Roller Hunt, 25th Street.
00:29:39I would go to the front of the train and pretend that I was driving the train.
00:29:44I didn't see her.
00:29:45I really wanted to see her really bad.
00:29:47You know what I mean?
00:29:48Anyway, it didn't happen.
00:29:50And I was very depressed.
00:29:52So when on my way back, I was sitting there going, just a Traveling Stranger.
00:29:57Oh, God.
00:30:08I'm just a Traveling Stranger
00:30:11On my way
00:30:13And I'm looking
00:30:15For your love
00:30:18Oh, I'm
00:30:21Just a Drifting Stranger
00:30:24On my way
00:30:26And I'm looking
00:30:28I can't write to it
00:30:29Unless I feel pain
00:30:31Absolutely
00:30:33Two women
00:30:34I said to him
00:30:36How come I can never write a song that's happy
00:30:38But we did write a happy song
00:30:40But that was when we were in California
00:30:42We were in California
00:30:42We were having a good time
00:30:43Good time
00:30:46Good time
00:30:46Good time
00:30:47Good time
00:30:47Good time
00:30:48Right, right, right
00:30:49Right, right
00:30:50But it is
00:30:50In the hood
00:30:51You got pain
00:30:53Yeah, it's pain
00:30:53You know what I'm saying?
00:30:55I want to get out of here
00:30:56Period
00:30:57So you look at television and you see different people doing different things
00:31:02I want to be there
00:31:03I want to do that
00:31:04It was always the group
00:31:05That's the thing that's going to get me out of wherever you were
00:31:10And the success and the money and the camaraderie
00:31:14You guys have been together since you're teenagers
00:31:17Right
00:31:17And to still be together and to have made it through
00:31:21It's a miracle
00:31:24I'm all right
00:31:28I'm all right
00:31:30She told me that you love me
00:31:32She told me that you can
00:31:33I wish she told me that it made me feel like a man
00:31:37Everything
00:31:38Everything's gonna be
00:31:40Everything's gonna be
00:31:42Everything's gonna be
00:31:44Everything's gonna be
00:31:45Be, be, be, be, be, be, be, be
00:31:48I remember coming to the show
00:31:52Nice to see you
00:31:53As a 13-year-old kid
00:31:54Yes, right
00:31:55The whole thing was a trip
00:31:57Right
00:31:57You guys would do the dance thing
00:32:00Defied human, uh...
00:32:01Gravity
00:32:02Gravity
00:32:04The place went crazy
00:32:07The screaming was unbelievable
00:32:31It was so good
00:32:33It was always so good
00:32:37Gentlemen, the original members of Jane the Americans
00:32:41Celebrating 40th anniversary of She Cried, number two record in 1962
00:32:46In those days, we were lucky enough to get with Jerry Lieber and Mike Stoller
00:32:51Lieber and Stoller were producers
00:32:53And, you know, if it wasn't for them, we never would have had a hit or never would have had
00:32:58anything happen
00:32:59We really, you know, were tools of theirs
00:33:12But when we went up to their office, it was already the early 60s
00:33:17And they had a concept that had strings and horns and big rhythm sections
00:33:25It wasn't doo-wop, but we knew it was great
00:33:33But did you know that we were, like, kind of done?
00:33:36I think after they put out Dawning and it didn't make it at that point
00:33:39Yeah, right
00:33:39I think we were in Stoller were going to cut our contracts
00:33:42Because I think they really gave us a shot with one album and one deal
00:33:45And I remember we were feeling terrible
00:33:47And then all of a sudden
00:33:48I was going back to the funeral business
00:33:50Because my father was an undertaker
00:33:52And I remember they turned it over
00:33:54I don't remember who it was
00:33:55But they played the B-side
00:33:56And played it over and over and over
00:33:58And she cried
00:33:58And then we got a call back
00:33:59And that was it
00:34:00We were at a gig somewhere in Jersey
00:34:02And we were driving back on the Jersey Turnpike
00:34:04And all of a sudden
00:34:05It came on the radio
00:34:06That thing's the first time
00:34:07We went nuts
00:34:10And when I told her
00:34:14I didn't love her anymore
00:34:23She cried
00:34:29And when I told her
00:34:34Her kisses were not like before
00:34:43She cried
00:34:49I thought that our romance was over and done
00:34:59But to her
00:35:01It had just begun
00:35:04But to her it had just begun
00:35:08And when I told her
00:35:13And the other girl had caught my eye
00:35:19Sha-la-la-la
00:35:21Sha-la-la
00:35:22Sha-la-la
00:35:23She cried
00:35:28She cried
00:35:37Oh! Yeah!
00:35:40Right. Great trainer.
00:35:42Nice to meet you.
00:35:44Nice call, guys.
00:35:46For 40 years.
00:36:02My father used to sing
00:36:03Gospel with the Golden Gate Quartet
00:36:06I had ten sisters and five brothers
00:36:09It was the pit gospel singers
00:36:11We never recorded
00:36:12But we did a lot of tan up in church, you know?
00:36:17When he died
00:36:18Why don't you pray to me, Jesus?
00:36:19Got a homeowner high
00:36:21Why don't you pray to the Lord
00:36:22He says, Jesus?
00:36:23When we got the five original guys
00:36:25Jive five
00:36:26I took them to my father
00:36:28My father trained us how to sing
00:36:31And we rehearsed
00:36:32Like two hours every day
00:36:34For two years
00:36:38You told me that your father
00:36:40We would have each guy stand in a different corner of the room
00:36:43And the leads sang from the middle
00:36:46That way you wouldn't find anybody leaning on the next guy to hear his note
00:36:51He's supposed to know his note
00:36:52Once he gave you your note
00:36:54That was it right there
00:36:56He trained us to sing gospel
00:36:57When we got out in the street
00:36:59That's when we sang doo-wop
00:37:00Because he didn't allow that rock-a-rosa
00:37:07But we got an audition of Belta
00:37:10And Joe Rene
00:37:12He said, these guys really sound good
00:37:14He said, do you have any originals or other songs?
00:37:18I said, well, yeah, we have a song we don't like
00:37:20He said, why you don't like it?
00:37:22I said, because it's about me
00:37:23It's a true story
00:37:24Here is a story, Anne
00:37:28That I must tell
00:37:31Of two lovers
00:37:34That I knew well
00:37:36Her name was Sue, yeah
00:37:40His name was Earl
00:37:43His love was Lorraine
00:37:46She's a wonderful girl
00:37:49But they must cry, cry
00:37:52Oh, oh, oh, oh
00:37:55They lose weight
00:38:01From where?
00:38:05When they got up from the desk
00:38:07Les K. Hanson, that's a smash
00:38:09And love will make you cry
00:38:13Love will make the tears fall
00:38:16My father never knew
00:38:18That I was singing rock and roll
00:38:20Until my true story hit and was going off the chart
00:38:38My father came to me and he said, you know, I heard you got a hit record. I
00:38:44Said yeah, dad. He started laughing because he didn't want me to sing rock and roll. That's the year dad.
00:38:49We got a hit
00:38:51So yeah, somebody told
00:39:20House of oldies
00:39:22Hey, how you doing? Oh, I'm doing good. What's going on? I got a little surprise for you. It's the
00:39:28Cleveland still from the doves
00:39:29I don't believe it. This is like Moses coming to the mountain
00:39:37Pleasure I've been a big fan for many years you are definitely in the top five
00:39:42Vocal groups that we get calls for you know, yeah, I'd love to get I'd love to get the the
00:39:47Johnson record
00:39:49So what everybody else right? Yeah, don't ask me first came out on Johnson very very small pressing
00:39:55Give me a thousand copies of it. I'll trade you for the store
00:39:57How's that?
00:39:59Am I right or wrong? Right?
00:40:02Yeah, it sells like clean copy sells for probably about thousand dollars
00:40:08Okay, we got the mark X on a be sure yeah
00:40:14Much is something like this. Oh, that's it's about
00:40:18About 50 bucks and here's don't ask me
00:40:23We got all of the early stuff I'm out of your APC
00:40:26I wish I could get it the
00:40:29That's that's some great stuff that a lot of people don't know about you know
00:40:32It's really wonderful. We got for this be magic and beside my love and sure my love be sure my
00:40:39love I know
00:40:48Great uptempo be so sing the wet Richard Richard and myself would join it. No kidding. Okay. Okay. Okay. You
00:40:56got it
00:41:05Oh
00:41:06Oh, this is a beauty
00:41:07Who did you do the strings?
00:41:09I know
00:41:10Beautiful
00:41:13Be sure my love
00:41:21Be sure my love
00:41:24I think we're all gonna die. There's an Italian word called self
00:41:34I think we're all gonna die
00:41:34Your love is mine
00:41:39Your love is mine
00:41:40Ooh
00:41:42Be sure my love
00:41:45Wow
00:41:46Marcus!
00:41:48You were signed to Garn Records
00:41:51Frankie Lyman was up there
00:41:53Mm-hmm
00:41:53The cleft tones were up there
00:41:55The Chantels were already there
00:41:57Yeah
00:41:59In the Chapel of Queens
00:42:03In the Chapel of Queens
00:42:08Every dream will come true
00:42:11I get a job
00:42:13Garn Records
00:42:15In the Chapel of Queens
00:42:16In the Chapel of Queens
00:42:17I asked George Goldman for $20 a week
00:42:20Because I had to have money
00:42:22To come in from Queens
00:42:23Eat
00:42:24And travel back to Queens
00:42:27He gives me $50 a week
00:42:31And I'm able to now learn from him
00:42:34And never leave his side
00:42:36What do you want? I'll get it for you
00:42:38How come you said that?
00:42:40Oh, I see
00:42:41How come you did that?
00:42:43You picked that song rather than this song
00:42:45How come that guy's singing lead
00:42:47Not that one?
00:42:49Yeah
00:42:49Yeah
00:42:51Yeah
00:42:55Oh, little girl of mine
00:42:59Yeah
00:43:00George
00:43:02Was a 360 degree lesson
00:43:06In life
00:43:08He was insane
00:43:10Wonderful
00:43:11A gambler
00:43:13And nobody had his ears
00:43:16Nobody
00:43:17He would go in the studio
00:43:19And if he listened
00:43:21From Frankie Lyman
00:43:22To the Chantels
00:43:23To the Flamingos
00:43:25To the Latin records
00:43:27He made Tico
00:43:28He's getting somebody
00:43:30To lay their soul out
00:43:31He doesn't want the song
00:43:33He wants you
00:43:35Give me you
00:43:38What does this mean to you?
00:43:40I love you so
00:43:47I love you so
00:43:52I love you so
00:43:52Arlene Smith
00:43:53Is one of the greatest voices ever
00:43:56I love you too
00:43:58She had this extraordinary instrument
00:44:01To be able to pop it
00:44:03And at the same time
00:44:05Be gentle
00:44:07And at the same time
00:44:08Blow the walls off
00:44:10Never let you go
00:44:18It was longing
00:44:20It was a lot of raw emotion
00:44:22It's what it was
00:44:24My father was strict
00:44:26My freedom was music
00:44:28It was my saving grace
00:44:32There's a higher power
00:44:33That said
00:44:35This child is in trouble
00:44:37Let me give her something
00:44:38And now I've learned
00:44:39To ask God to please
00:44:40Let it come through me
00:44:41As a vehicle
00:44:42Because that's all I am
00:44:48I sing light and pretty
00:44:50George makes me sing harder
00:44:52To make it commercial
00:44:56The only thing that was on our mind
00:44:59Is making a great record
00:45:02Or making a great song
00:45:03Or making a great sound
00:45:06You're a thousand miles away
00:45:10But I still have your love
00:45:14To remember you, boy
00:45:18Right down that bar
00:45:20Shep had like three chords
00:45:23Or four chords
00:45:24That he played on the piano
00:45:24And if you listen to all our songs
00:45:26It's in that realm
00:45:27It's in those three or four chords
00:45:28That is coming
00:45:32Our soul
00:45:36We were on the little sweet label
00:45:39Named B. Castlin
00:45:40Who loved us
00:45:41And did everything in the world for us
00:45:43The record was trying to be a hit
00:45:46She was not really a record person
00:45:48So me and my smart butt
00:45:50You know, I said
00:45:51Well, we need to get
00:45:52What a label that can really
00:45:53You know, make a hit
00:45:56And I made her sell it
00:45:57From her label to George Golden
00:46:01When a thousand miles came out
00:46:03I mean, it was a huge hit
00:46:06George was the music man
00:46:12You go on that floor
00:46:13All you can hear is this one record
00:46:15Being played all day long
00:46:17From eight o'clock in the morning
00:46:19Till eight o'clock at night
00:46:20Over and over and over
00:46:24He was mesmerizing himself
00:46:26Into telling everybody in the world
00:46:28It's the number one record
00:46:35Every single day
00:46:36Lots and lots of artists
00:46:39Producers
00:46:40Managers
00:46:41Knocking on the door
00:46:57Every single day
00:46:59Getting the records on the air
00:47:03Getting the records in the store
00:47:06Getting the records to be reported
00:47:09To Cash Box and Billboard
00:47:11And then there's
00:47:13What's the next record
00:47:15That we're putting out
00:47:16Why love that girl
00:47:18Love that girl
00:47:30Seems like yesterday
00:47:31Wow
00:47:32This is great
00:47:32This is a great show
00:47:33This is fantastic
00:47:34Fun
00:47:34And we want to mention
00:47:36You guys are
00:47:37Inducted into the
00:47:38Vocal Group Hall of Fame
00:47:39Yes
00:47:40Well deserved
00:47:41Yes
00:47:42Well deserved
00:47:43With the harsh tones
00:47:44The Chantels
00:47:45And with Jay Traynor
00:47:47Yeah
00:47:47Yes
00:47:48And Jay Black
00:47:49Look how lucky we are
00:47:50That's right
00:47:51You know how did it happen
00:47:52That you left the group
00:47:53And you know
00:47:54You talked about
00:47:55Having an opportunity
00:47:58To go solo
00:48:00Right?
00:48:00Jeff Barry and Ellie Grinch
00:48:01Were songwriters
00:48:02And producers
00:48:03They told me
00:48:04That Phil Spector
00:48:06Was interested
00:48:06In recording me
00:48:08And
00:48:09Probably hit him
00:48:10Probably foolishly
00:48:12I decided to try
00:48:14To go do some stuff with him
00:48:16And that's
00:48:16So I left the group
00:48:18People always say
00:48:19Well do you regret it?
00:48:20And I say
00:48:20Well how can you regret it?
00:48:23It's something you did in life
00:48:24And that's
00:48:24And you just go on
00:48:27Let's
00:48:27Let's
00:48:28Mark the door
00:48:29Let's
00:48:29Throw away the key
00:48:30Now
00:48:31Do it
00:48:32Do it
00:48:33Do it
00:48:33Do it
00:48:33Do it
00:48:33Do it
00:48:34Do it
00:48:34Do it
00:48:34Do it
00:48:35minor
00:48:35Do it
00:48:36Do it
00:48:36Do it
00:48:37Boom
00:48:39It
00:48:40It
00:48:40Do it
00:48:42Let's
00:48:43Do it
00:48:44Walk
00:49:04Then
00:49:04Let's lock the door, let's go in the key now
00:49:09Shout it out, I can't wait to kiss you
00:49:15One little minute more
00:49:23No! Oh yeah! No! Oh yeah!
00:49:32I'll kiss your lips like a kiss ought to be
00:49:35And then I know you'll be saying...
00:49:38We were just on a high.
00:49:40We were having hit records and traveling all over the world.
00:49:46We opened for the Beatles and we opened for the Rolling Stones
00:49:50when they first came to the United States.
00:49:53One little minute more
00:49:56Let's lock the door, let's lock the door, let's lock the door.
00:50:05Let's lock the door, let's lock the door, let's lock the door.
00:50:10Now, thirty years later, we're being inducted into the Vocal Group Hall of Fame.
00:50:19I'm waiting for you, Howie. I'm ready for you.
00:50:22I'm ready for you.
00:50:23There's a double card.
00:50:23Be sure to hold her, hold her tight
00:50:28When you dance, you'll squeeze her, yeah, with all your mind
00:50:34I need such a thrill
00:50:38Oh, when she's close to you
00:50:42Well, hold her tight
00:50:46Good luck, girl.
00:50:49Good luck, girl.
00:50:53Good luck, girl.
00:50:56Good luck, girl.
00:50:58Good luck, girl.
00:51:07I can't see anyone, but you
00:51:22Are the stars
00:51:26Out tonight
00:51:32I don't know
00:51:34If it's cloudy or dry
00:51:38I only fell alive
00:51:51And...
00:51:52Now here's the last one
00:51:55Stop and...
00:51:57That's not the end
00:51:59Stop and...
00:52:02Turn it up
00:52:03Turn it up
00:52:06Just going over here
00:52:07Yeah! It's gonna be fun
00:52:09I made the weekend
00:52:12It's gonna be fun
00:52:13It's gonna be fun
00:52:14Yeah!
00:52:15Yeah!
00:52:16Dickie
00:52:17Ah
00:52:18Ah
00:52:28Three times
00:52:29it's all three times three time one more you look handsome man praise the Lord
00:52:51I'm serious man she's got you looking handsome
00:52:58when I was a kid it would be eight o'clock in the morning and we'd be on the bus
00:53:03going to school
00:53:04singing and everybody on the bus they singing this yeah you remember I'm going all over the city
00:53:10all over the country man singing in the hallway before I heard it on the radio I'm changing
00:53:16classes in George Washington high school up in Washington Heights I'm going to Mr. Slotnik's
00:53:21class okay the record comes out January 1st February 12th we're doing our first engagement for pay and
00:53:38look who's on the show the fast dominant the harp tones the flamingos all the people that I'm listening
00:53:48to on the radio oh my god when we pulled up I see all those people on the billboard
00:53:56and then the teenagers featuring Frankie Lyman this is before Frankie Lyman and the teenagers
00:54:18when you played at the Brooklyn Paramount in the early days I heard that you were in the dressing room
00:54:25right next to Frankie Lyman and the dressing room right next to speedo speedo from the Cadillac
00:54:54and you know as a kid like you I used to go see these acts and I used to love
00:54:58that all that stuff they did all that choreography
00:55:00when I first met speedo I was in the chips and we were playing the Apollo Theater very first time
00:55:07I played Dr.
00:55:07Jive show 1956 with the Dells the Cadillacs Bo Diddley the school boys Robert and Johnny I remember like it
00:55:17was yesterday
00:55:31Bo Diddley the Bo Diddley and I remember Bo Diddley used to tear the Apollo up because he's the headliner
00:55:38I said well who the hell can go on after Bo Diddley I stood in the wings
00:55:44the stars of the show
00:55:46were the Cadillacs.
00:55:47Now some of them call me Moe
00:55:50Some of them call me Joe
00:55:51Dance man must be though
00:55:53He don't ever take you slow
00:55:55Well now they all can call me speedo
00:55:57But my real name is
00:55:59Girl
00:56:02And I had never seen
00:56:04any choreography like that in my life.
00:56:07The whole group
00:56:07were dancing. Then after the show
00:56:10one night, we had finished
00:56:12our last show. We're going home.
00:56:13They had a limousine waiting for them. They were catching a plane
00:56:16to go to Washington, D.C.
00:56:17They were going to another gig. And they were sharp.
00:56:20I remember they were sharp.
00:56:22Speedo had on a black pinstripe suit.
00:56:25Damn, this is big.
00:56:26These guys are
00:56:28large.
00:56:39Everybody always
00:57:04We went on tour, did 61 one-nighters.
00:57:07I mean, we went everywhere.
00:57:10In the bus?
00:57:12Yeah, in the bus.
00:57:19Who was in the bus?
00:57:20In the bus we had
00:57:21Linda Scott,
00:57:22Clarence Frogman Henry,
00:57:24we had Chubby Checker,
00:57:26we had the Shirelles,
00:57:27Paul Wanker.
00:57:28To the hula-hu!
00:57:31Yeah, baby
00:57:33Everybody
00:57:33How we go
00:57:34But it was, like, tiresome
00:57:35because she would do one show here
00:57:37and the next night
00:57:38we were in
00:57:40Texas and then back to
00:57:41Canada.
00:57:44To the floor, Patterson!
00:57:48Yeah, baby
00:57:54Everybody's got it right
00:57:57We had some great times
00:57:59It was like, you know,
00:58:01family on the road.
00:58:02This was my first experience
00:58:03of being on the road
00:58:04and I just enjoyed it so much
00:58:07that I did it for 42 years.
00:58:10We would be on stage singing
00:58:12and you'd see the promoter
00:58:14leaving with the cash box
00:58:18waving goodbye
00:58:19and the place
00:58:20would be jam-packed.
00:58:22We had our first hit record.
00:58:24We were making $300
00:58:26with a number one record
00:58:28for a night.
00:58:29$300, thanks to Ernie.
00:58:31That's what he was
00:58:32booking us for.
00:58:33$300 for...
00:58:39Wait, you got $300?
00:58:45Wow!
00:58:46Wow!
00:58:54That's a part of my life
00:58:56that's bittersweet.
00:58:57My father traveled with us.
00:59:01I didn't have the freedom
00:59:02but I'm glad that they were strict
00:59:03because it would have been
00:59:05very easy for children
00:59:07from 13 and 15, 16
00:59:09to run into all of the wise guys
00:59:12on the road.
00:59:16And the manager,
00:59:17he used to go down in history
00:59:18with some of the things
00:59:20that he used to do
00:59:21in terms of protecting the group
00:59:23and locking the door
00:59:25and go in in the morning
00:59:27and come out at night
00:59:28in the shows.
00:59:33When you're 13, 14, 15,
00:59:34everything's kicking.
00:59:37But I never got a chance
00:59:39to do that
00:59:39because I got mine
00:59:41out through music.
00:59:42So that's why
00:59:43it's such a passion,
00:59:44such this, such that.
00:59:46That was all
00:59:47of that excess energy.
00:59:58I love you, baby.
01:00:04When you guys came in,
01:00:06it was like
01:00:07you guys were already men.
01:00:09Especially Frankie Lyman.
01:00:11He was like little,
01:00:13but he was like,
01:00:14it took me 50 years
01:00:16to figure anything out.
01:00:19To grow into
01:00:21who I am.
01:00:22But he was
01:00:23who he was then.
01:00:25Someone take me
01:00:26by the hand.
01:00:27Tell me
01:00:28I'm your lover, man.
01:00:30Will I find
01:00:31just me too?
01:00:33You for me,
01:00:34me for you.
01:00:36Top of your profession,
01:00:37pretty young.
01:00:37How old are you exactly?
01:00:3914.
01:00:39How long have you
01:00:40been at it?
01:00:41Oh, for about
01:00:42a year and a half.
01:00:43Seems to us
01:00:43a pretty fabulous salary.
01:00:45How do you spend it?
01:00:46Well, we get an allowance
01:00:47of $27 a week.
01:00:49And that's to do with
01:00:50like, say,
01:00:52caviar or hamburger.
01:00:54Do what you want.
01:00:56Yes.
01:00:57Have you got any
01:00:58particular weakness?
01:01:00Well, candy.
01:01:02Candy.
01:01:03Candy.
01:01:04Yes.
01:01:05It was like he was
01:01:06a man-child.
01:01:07It's true.
01:01:08And when you hear
01:01:09Out in the Cold again,
01:01:10especially that for me,
01:01:11the performance on
01:01:13is like
01:01:14of a person
01:01:17that had lived
01:01:18a lot of life.
01:01:19Yes.
01:01:20And he had not
01:01:21at that point.
01:01:38When we arrived
01:01:40back in America,
01:01:42it was all done.
01:01:44Frank said I'm leaving.
01:01:47That was basically it.
01:02:00That was messed up.
01:02:03Psychological.
01:02:04I couldn't believe it.
01:02:07You guys went
01:02:08into outer space.
01:02:09When you came back
01:02:11and you sat on the stoop
01:02:12and you wondered
01:02:12like what happened,
01:02:14it was over.
01:02:24This lady,
01:02:25what was her name
01:02:26of that lady,
01:02:26Gloria or whatever?
01:02:27She says,
01:02:28I want to make you a star.
01:02:30And I'm going,
01:02:31you mean in the movies?
01:02:32I don't know
01:02:32about no movies.
01:02:33She's going to make me
01:02:34in the movies.
01:02:35And she's telling me
01:02:36all these people
01:02:36she deals with
01:02:37and all this stuff
01:02:38and I'm going,
01:02:39wow.
01:02:40So I believe her.
01:02:43I'm 20 years old.
01:02:44I believe her.
01:02:44So she pulls me away.
01:02:47The group breaks up.
01:02:49No, you broke up
01:02:50from us.
01:02:51Yeah.
01:02:51And I just
01:02:53say goodbye.
01:02:54And then when I,
01:02:55the next thing I know,
01:02:56you know,
01:02:57it ain't what it was.
01:02:58So now I hit the bottom.
01:02:59Blam.
01:03:01No, it's just,
01:03:02no career stopped,
01:03:03short, done.
01:03:04There's no records,
01:03:06there's no nothing
01:03:06and we are.
01:03:07I'm there
01:03:07on the bottom
01:03:08living in
01:03:104-7 Washington.
01:03:17I mean,
01:03:17you had rats in there,
01:03:18man.
01:03:19And I,
01:03:19here I am,
01:03:20I ain't got no money,
01:03:22nowhere to go.
01:03:23I mean,
01:03:23I'm in this rat-infested place
01:03:25that I had to take
01:03:25a BB gun
01:03:26and shoot mice
01:03:27and rats
01:03:28tonight to keep
01:03:29away from my son.
01:03:29Right.
01:03:30I mean,
01:03:31that's how low it got.
01:03:33I've been in and out
01:03:34of groups all my life,
01:03:36you know,
01:03:36since I'm 13
01:03:37and it's always
01:03:38something.
01:03:39Oh, yeah.
01:03:40It's always something.
01:03:40There's always one guy
01:03:42and if it's not one guy,
01:03:43it's another guy
01:03:44and it's the part of it
01:03:45but again...
01:03:46Oh, it's a wife
01:03:47or it's a girlfriend
01:03:48or it's somebody
01:03:49that's gonna destroy
01:03:50the situation,
01:03:51I know.
01:03:52I know.
01:03:52The only thing
01:03:53that prevented us
01:03:53from taking it all away
01:03:55was the social problem
01:03:57within the group.
01:03:58The group was
01:03:59totally together
01:04:00and totally ready
01:04:01to do anything
01:04:02but Shep would not
01:04:03stop drinking
01:04:04and the last time
01:04:05that we played
01:04:06and I said to Shep,
01:04:08I told myself,
01:04:09I said,
01:04:09Shep,
01:04:09if you don't stop drinking,
01:04:12I'm gonna have
01:04:12to stop singing
01:04:13because I cannot afford
01:04:15to go on stage
01:04:16and you be sloppy
01:04:17and not be able
01:04:18to do what
01:04:19we're supposed to do
01:04:20and he did it
01:04:21one more time
01:04:21at the Apollo
01:04:22and that's when
01:04:22it all stopped.
01:04:23The whole thing
01:04:24fell apart.
01:04:24The whole thing
01:04:25just...
01:04:25We just stopped it.
01:04:26We just stopped.
01:04:27It had to be
01:04:28a heartbreaker.
01:04:28It was a miserable,
01:04:30miserable,
01:04:31miserable decision
01:04:32and a miserable,
01:04:33miserable time.
01:04:34One million years
01:04:38too late
01:04:39What made you think
01:04:43that I would wait
01:04:47You didn't write
01:04:51or call
01:04:56You didn't give
01:04:58And J&E Americans
01:05:00was over
01:05:01for different reasons.
01:05:04gambling,
01:05:05drugs,
01:05:06whatever,
01:05:07you know,
01:05:08interactions,
01:05:09social interactions,
01:05:10insanity,
01:05:13because of the ride
01:05:14that we were on.
01:05:15There's something
01:05:16about going on
01:05:16that stage
01:05:17and getting that feeling.
01:05:19Knowing that people
01:05:20just love
01:05:21what you're going to do
01:05:23and waiting for it.
01:05:25And when you hit it
01:05:27and it hits right,
01:05:28I mean,
01:05:29there's no bigger
01:05:30high in the world.
01:05:32That's like being
01:05:33on drugs
01:05:33and anything else
01:05:36you can think of
01:05:37because that was my high.
01:05:38You can't buy that.
01:05:39You can't pay for it.
01:05:40No.
01:05:40No.
01:05:40You know,
01:05:41it's something that comes
01:05:41to you.
01:05:43You can't explain it
01:05:44to anybody
01:05:44in what it is.
01:05:46You want to sing
01:05:47You Send Me?
01:05:49What the hell?
01:05:51What the hell?
01:05:52Oh, what the hell?
01:05:53Come on.
01:05:53What the hell?
01:05:54Come on.
01:05:55You Send Me.
01:05:57I wasn't planning this at all.
01:06:00That's when it's the most fun.
01:06:02That's when it's best.
01:06:05Darling, you send me
01:06:11Darling, you send me
01:06:17You send me, baby
01:06:18Cause you, you send me, babe
01:06:26I'll let you do
01:06:34You, you, you, you, you, you
01:06:39You send me
01:06:42I think you know
01:06:45that you thrill me
01:06:52You thrill me
01:06:55Honest you do
01:06:57Yeah
01:06:58Yes, you do
01:07:01At first I thought it was
01:07:04an infatuation
01:07:07So infatuated for you
01:07:10But it's lasted so long
01:07:15You know it had
01:07:17Now I find myself wanting
01:07:22A plane to
01:07:23Baby, baby, I habit
01:07:25And take you
01:07:27Oh, play
01:07:31Oh!
01:07:33Ooh!
01:07:35Come in yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
01:07:38Wahoo
01:07:39Oh!
01:07:42Oh!
01:07:43Oh-ohh!
01:07:45Oh-oh!
01:07:46Baby, baby, baby
01:07:47Baby, you're somebody
01:07:48Oh-ohh!
01:07:51Oh-oh-oh!
01:07:51Ooh-oh!
01:07:52Oh, yes, you know, yes, you know
01:07:56Turn for Phoebe Snow!
01:08:09Phoebe Snow!
01:08:24Oh, Gloria
01:08:28It's not Mary's Gloria
01:08:35It's not Cherie's Gloria
01:08:42And she's not in love with me
01:08:52You know, the music business has been good to me in a certain way
01:08:54But this is basically what I got
01:08:58This one is probably the last Jane Americans album
01:09:01Which was 1970
01:09:04About, maybe, 71
01:09:06Was the end of it
01:09:08And this one
01:09:13Was 60
01:09:17I look about five
01:09:20Nice haircut
01:09:21It was 12 years
01:09:22It was a 12 year trip
01:09:24But
01:09:24A lot of hits
01:09:26Yeah, a lot of hits
01:09:27A lot of hits
01:09:27Ah, is that beautiful
01:09:30Look at that
01:09:30This was after drugs
01:09:32Before and after
01:09:33Before
01:09:34Before drugs
01:09:44Come a little bit closer
01:09:46Come a little bit closer
01:09:48And the night is so long
01:09:49Yeah, I'm still a little bit closer
01:09:54Oh, I'm still a little bit closer
01:09:55To the night
01:09:59Yeah, I just couldn't resist
01:10:02But just a mother's kiss
01:10:04And excited
01:10:07Yeah, I heard the people's love
01:10:10Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
01:10:39They stopped promoting us.
01:10:41Right.
01:10:42That's where the pain is.
01:10:44I still get a little, uh, when I talk about it.
01:10:47While you're going through it, you just notice the stuff slowing down.
01:10:51You don't really realize that if you want to continue to sing,
01:10:54you're going to have to do some other things to keep that going.
01:10:59And yet I didn't really know what to do.
01:11:00Because I, even with the voice and all of this stuff and people envying,
01:11:07I mean, my self-esteem was down to zero.
01:11:13And I kept trying.
01:11:15I kept trying.
01:11:16Nobody tried hard.
01:11:29I can feel the sadness in your voice when you say it with you, yeah.
01:11:36I just guess you have no other choice, what else can you do, yeah.
01:11:40Frankie Lyman, he's got this incredible tenor soprano voice.
01:11:47Now, what happens once puberty sets in?
01:11:51I could never love another like I do this way.
01:11:55Still terrific, terrific singer, okay?
01:11:59But no longer that young, vibrant, kick-ass artist.
01:12:06And nobody wanted to touch him.
01:12:08Hey, hey, can you hear me?
01:12:10I'm so sorry.
01:12:11Hey, hey, pretty baby, I'm so sorry.
01:12:14You know, we played with Frankie Lyman.
01:12:16He was around 27 years old.
01:12:19Really?
01:12:20I don't think you made it that long.
01:12:22It was a year before he died.
01:12:24Oh, a year.
01:12:24Okay.
01:12:26Did you run into him again after that?
01:12:29Over the years?
01:12:30Yeah.
01:12:30A couple times.
01:12:31Only a couple times.
01:12:32Oh, yeah, you're so pissed off at him.
01:12:34I was pissed off in early years.
01:12:37Yeah, absolutely.
01:12:38Sure.
01:12:38Oh, yeah.
01:12:39So we're sitting in the dressing room, and this guy walks in with no teeth.
01:12:44And like a beaten guy.
01:12:48This is Frankie Lyman.
01:12:50What's happening?
01:12:52And he put this tuxedo on, and he put these tap dancing shoes on.
01:12:56It was like he was trying to be Sammy Davis, or whatever he thought.
01:13:01He's trying to get a gig.
01:13:03You know, the promoting, the management, they got one thing in mind.
01:13:08It was just heartbreaking.
01:13:10I just wanted to give him a hug, and tell him how much I love him.
01:13:14I could never love another like I do this way, and I'll love you the rest of my day.
01:13:19I'm sorry.
01:13:23I'm sorry.
01:13:26It's about the gig.
01:13:27It's about being at the gig.
01:13:28There is nothing outside of the gig that is important except being at the gig.
01:13:33And when that light comes on, like you hear that music, no matter how bad you feel, it's showtime.
01:13:38Showtime.
01:13:38It is a joke about this.
01:13:40This guy got this job with the circus, and there was this old guy at the circus.
01:13:43He was following the elephants, shoveling the elephant dung.
01:13:46He would complain every day.
01:13:48So the guy said, it's kind of like this job.
01:13:50So after about a week, the guy said, man, you're shoveling the elephant dung, and you complain all day long.
01:13:56But every day you get up, and you do it.
01:13:59He said, why don't you quit?
01:14:00He said, what?
01:14:00And give up show business?
01:14:08I went to see you in Florida once.
01:14:10You were playing at the Seven Seas Lounge, maybe?
01:14:14Yeah, the Seven Seas Lounge.
01:14:15It was in the 70s.
01:14:16Yeah.
01:14:17You were not happy.
01:14:18No.
01:14:19I had this band.
01:14:20I just had three different bands.
01:14:21I said, hey, what's happening?
01:14:21And you go, yeah.
01:14:22And I was like, whew.
01:14:24I couldn't find anybody.
01:14:26To be with me.
01:14:28The people we brought in are very good.
01:14:30But they weren't earnest.
01:14:32It wasn't Sammy.
01:14:34Because no one could make that sound.
01:14:37The reason why we could do that was because we lived it.
01:14:41And in those other people, the spirit did not live.
01:14:44The spirit only lives within us.
01:14:46So when we sing it collectively, it's the same thing.
01:14:51That's what it is.
01:14:54Just two kinds of people in the world.
01:15:01Just two kinds of people in the world.
01:15:04You get the melody.
01:15:06Yeah, do the melody.
01:15:07Yeah, you do this.
01:15:10Just two kinds of people in the world.
01:15:19Why can't we fall in love?
01:15:24Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
01:15:26Oh, oh, oh, oh.
01:15:26Just two kinds of people in the world.
01:15:34Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
01:15:39Just two kinds of people in the world, retarded.
01:15:46Why can't we fall in love?
01:15:54Love, love, love, love.
01:16:06This is Desco Hayes.
01:16:09We're beginning to get wrong.
01:16:11Do you get writing credits for that stuff?
01:16:14No, they've been taken away slowly but surely.
01:16:17From maybe?
01:16:18Yeah, yeah.
01:16:19It's being claimed.
01:16:20And I can't fight it.
01:16:21I'm not going to fight it.
01:16:23Now, if I hadn't been a child, maybe I could have said something.
01:16:28Because there were a few people that, you know, kids can read,
01:16:30that I saw that didn't look right, but I could never say it
01:16:34because I was still into Mr. So-and-so, Mr. So-and-so, you know what I mean?
01:16:38So you didn't dare say anything about an adult.
01:16:42A child's trust in you, and you'd be trying to trust.
01:16:47George spent millions gambling,
01:16:50and he found a way to blow Garn and end records
01:16:54the same way as he found a way
01:16:56to lose
01:16:58Rama, Tico,
01:17:00and G records.
01:17:03You got it?
01:17:05You lost it.
01:17:07How did you lose it?
01:17:09You blew it.
01:17:11Nobody took it away from you.
01:17:13You threw it away.
01:17:17Ask me for the world
01:17:20It doesn't seem much
01:17:24And when he left G and Rama,
01:17:28the whole vibe changed
01:17:29because now Morris Levy owned the company.
01:17:34Morris was in the
01:17:36$1 for you, $1 for me.
01:17:38$1 for you, $2 for me.
01:17:41$1 for you, $3 for me.
01:17:48How would you like to look at a gold record with your name on it
01:17:51and not get paid for it?
01:17:54I saw it under the desk with our name on it,
01:17:58but we never got recognition for it.
01:18:03From then on, I knew that I was getting beat.
01:18:05It's just a question of how bad, you know?
01:18:10We got it from our manager also.
01:18:13His lawyer drew our papers.
01:18:16And when we went back,
01:18:17the small print that we didn't read,
01:18:20we had signed our rights over to him also.
01:18:22The same thing happened to me.
01:18:24You know, we walked in there.
01:18:26We just wanted to do it.
01:18:28We just wanted to make a record.
01:18:30That was all that was on our minds.
01:18:32I have to admit that.
01:18:34And then later on, when it's sold,
01:18:37someone says, well, how much did you make?
01:18:39And I go, well, we didn't really make anything.
01:18:41And they say, what are you, an idiot?
01:18:43And I go, well, and then I felt like an idiot.
01:18:47It hurts.
01:18:48And it hurts.
01:18:49We didn't have a lawyer.
01:18:51Nope.
01:18:52They had the lawyer.
01:18:53They had the lawyer.
01:18:54We were kids,
01:18:56and if a man with a suit on in an office
01:18:59told you to sign a paper,
01:19:01he just did it.
01:19:02You thought he's...
01:19:03Right.
01:19:03He knows what's happening.
01:19:04Yeah.
01:19:05So you're just...
01:19:06I really wanted...
01:19:08I wanted to murder this guy, you know?
01:19:11So, I mean...
01:19:14I never really laughed about it
01:19:16until you and I are talking about it.
01:19:19I'm telling you the truth.
01:19:20I never really laughed about it.
01:19:22Why are you still doing it?
01:19:24Because I love to sing.
01:19:26Isn't that wild?
01:19:28I love to look out in the audience, you know?
01:19:32You can't see but so far, you know?
01:19:34But you can look out there and see people...
01:19:36You can feel it.
01:19:36You can feel it, you know?
01:19:37You look out there and you see people enjoying themselves.
01:19:40You say, wow, I make people feel like this, you know?
01:19:42And I want to be able to do this, you know?
01:19:44And capture a crowd and have them right there, right on the end of the seat.
01:19:54And I said, you know what?
01:19:56I can't stand this shit anymore.
01:19:57These fucking people are the worst.
01:20:00I couldn't take it because, like you, you put your whole life into it.
01:20:04You don't know anything else.
01:20:05And you're doing it since you're 13, 14 years old.
01:20:09So it comes from the purest place inside of you.
01:20:13I've felt that many, many, many, many times.
01:20:16Because nobody can understand that what you had to do was to cover it up.
01:20:20If you don't cover it up, they will tear it up.
01:20:24So I just covered mine up and just, you know, kept it safe.
01:20:28If I'm going to go sing now, I've got to bring that part with me.
01:20:32If I don't bring that part with me, it's not going to work.
01:20:35Like some, you know, older person, how could you be, you know, how could you act like that?
01:20:40The situation is that people that's never had it, they don't know what it is.
01:20:45So there's no way for them to miss it.
01:20:48See, but they don't, there's 90% of the people in the world don't even, can't even imagine what that
01:20:53feeling is.
01:20:54Hey, how are you?
01:20:57I don't know if you're covering it up.
01:20:58I hope you're covering it up.
01:21:00Nice.
01:21:02Tonight, I'm not there.
01:21:03I think maybe.
01:21:06You have, however, for me.
01:21:11Eddie, I know you're eating.
01:21:12I don't want to disturb you.
01:21:13Joe, I met him.
01:21:14I met him at the Bottom Line, a little crispy show.
01:21:16Yeah, yeah.
01:21:16And I'm a friend of Vinnie Vela Jr. was in a movie with you looking for an echo.
01:21:21And we're putting a production together for television with Don K. Reed and everybody.
01:21:25Oh, great.
01:21:25I would like to have you as my first guest on the show, believe it or not.
01:21:28All right.
01:21:28I'm in negotiations right now with lawyers and whatnot.
01:21:32As soon as it kicks off the ground, I will definitely get in touch with you.
01:21:35And if you're available, we'd like to have you on the first show.
01:21:37Okay.
01:21:38What kind of show is it?
01:21:39Well, I don't want to reveal a lot of it because it's not legalized yet, if you know what I
01:21:43mean, with copyrights and everything.
01:21:45Years ago, I gave out too much information and people stole my ideas, if you know what I mean.
01:21:49Okay, we're in, man.
01:21:51Yeah, it's definitely acapella.
01:21:52Okay.
01:21:52Definitely acapella.
01:21:53Okay, buddy.
01:21:53And it's going to cook.
01:21:54Great.
01:21:55Okay.
01:22:00It's going to be great.
01:22:01It's going to be great.
01:22:02It's going to be great.
01:22:02You know what I mean.
01:22:04I'm sure you understand.
01:22:05The legal reasons.
01:22:23When I was a little boy
01:22:25When I was a little support
01:22:26The devil would call me down
01:22:29When I was a little support
01:22:30I'd say, who do you think you fool in?
01:22:36When I was a little support
01:22:37I'm a consecrated boy
01:22:39When I was a little support
01:22:41When I was a little support
01:22:41I'd say, who do you think you fool in?
01:22:44When I was a little support
01:22:45Mama loves me
01:22:46She loves me
01:22:48She gets down on her knees and loves me
01:22:51She loves me like a rock
01:22:54Mmm
01:22:55A rock like the rock of ages
01:22:58She loves me
01:23:01Love me
01:23:04I was grown to be a man
01:23:06I was grown to be a man
01:23:08Never would call me a man
01:23:10I was grown to be a man
01:23:11Say now, who do?
01:23:14Who do you think you fool in?
01:23:17I was grown to be a man
01:23:18I'm a cultivated man
01:23:21I was grown to be a man
01:23:25My mama loves me
01:23:28She loves me
01:23:29Get down on her knees and hug me
01:23:32She loves me like a rock
01:23:36Oh, yeah
01:23:37Rock me like the rock of ages
01:23:40She loves me
01:23:41She loves me, loves me, loves me, loves me
01:23:45She loves me, loves me, loves me, loves me
01:23:49If I was a president
01:23:51Was a president
01:23:53Congress would call my name
01:23:57Since my baby told me that you love me
01:24:02I'm all right
01:24:04I'm all right
01:24:05I'm all right
01:24:06I'm all right
01:24:07She told me that you love me
01:24:10Told me that she can
01:24:12When she said she loved me
01:24:15Made me feel like a milky man
01:24:18Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick
01:24:20Dad's eating dinner
01:24:22So don't tell this bone
01:24:23I'm in it
01:24:24That's the bone
01:24:25Bones at the table
01:24:27Preparing the food
01:24:28Everybody's in a miracle
01:24:30I'm singing
01:24:31Nickelodeon
01:24:34Nickelodeon
01:24:35Nickelodeon
01:24:39Nickelodeon
01:24:58I feel very humble because I was hanging in the subway with my friends
01:25:02We'd be singing your songs
01:25:04All of your songs
01:25:05You know, so I feel very humble tonight
01:25:06And Arlene
01:25:08My first love affair was maybe
01:25:10My first girl
01:25:11My first crush ever
01:25:13Maybe, maybe
01:25:19Your star star
01:25:21Arlene Smith
01:25:23The name I'm a star
01:25:24And so is Gloria Wilson
01:25:26The original Shantos
01:25:32Maybe
01:25:34If I play every night
01:25:38You'll come back to me
01:25:44And maybe
01:25:48If I play every day
01:25:52You'll come back to me
01:25:57Oh, maybe
01:26:06Maybe
01:26:08Maybe
01:26:09If I hold your hand
01:26:14You will understand
01:26:20And maybe
01:26:23This music
01:26:25Is the foundation
01:26:26Of American pop culture
01:26:28The spirit of rock and roll
01:26:31Where it all began
01:26:33Oh, maybe
01:26:37Baby, baby, baby
01:26:40Oh, maybe
01:26:44Baby, baby, baby
01:27:10I wonder why
01:27:11I love you like a dude
01:27:12I wonder why
01:27:14I love you like a dude
01:27:15Ooh
01:27:17Ooh
01:27:18Ooh
01:27:19Ooh
01:27:20Ooh
01:27:21Ooh
01:27:22Ooh
01:27:22Ooh
01:27:23Ooh
01:27:23Ooh
01:27:23Ooh
01:27:24Well, I wonder why
01:27:27I love you like I do so much
01:27:29Oh, but I pray for your love
01:27:32Yes, and I wonder why
01:27:34Wonder why
01:27:44I wonder why
01:27:47I wonder why I love you
01:27:58I love you
01:28:02I wonder why
01:28:02I need you
01:28:03I love you
01:28:04I need you
01:28:05Oh
01:28:06Still, I wonder why
01:28:08I love you like I do so much
01:28:10Oh, but I pray for your love
01:28:13Yes, and I wonder why
01:28:15Wonder why
01:28:16Boric
01:28:18Or
01:28:18Or
01:28:40Oh
01:28:47Remember the night you told me
01:28:49No other harm could hold me
01:28:52Yes, I love you
01:28:54And I place, I place, I place the world above me now
01:28:58I wonder why I love you like I do so much
01:29:01Oh, but I pray for your love
01:29:03Yes, and I wonder why
01:29:06I wonder why
01:29:07I wonder why
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