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Second Chance Love - Season 1 - Episode 03: Recipe for Love
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00:12This process is going great.
00:14Reveal.
00:15Mateen and I are reconnecting with each other, like, so easily, so it's kind of scary that
00:20it's, like, happening so fast.
00:21It was fun, just, like, hanging out and kicking it with you.
00:25With Camille and I, there's always been this chemistry that we have.
00:30Kind of gave me a little bit of the butterflies.
00:33We just knew each other as kids.
00:34We never dated.
00:35Like, this is the dating part.
00:37We're trying to get to know each other.
00:38I don't really have a great sense of what our romantic compatibility would be like.
00:43You so easily let the relationship go.
00:46Why?
00:47I just could not see myself getting married.
00:50I don't want this man to dump me another time.
00:53Sorry, I'm gonna cry.
00:56I don't know if you guys noticed there's an extra bed in your room.
00:59An extra bed?
01:00Uh, you know, we might have another couple coming.
01:02I'm so excited.
01:03There's a lot at stake.
01:04Is she still gonna feel the same way about me?
01:06I know how I feel about it, but I'm wondering how she feels.
01:25Hello!
01:27There might be a little group excursion today.
01:29What is it?
01:30And it will consist of a cooking class.
01:31We're gonna cook together.
01:33Yeah.
01:34Yeah.
01:34Let's do it.
01:35That's so good.
01:37I have to sit in front, guys, because I have cars.
01:40Unless you want me to throw up on the van?
01:42No, that would be unpleasant.
01:44I have to sit in front.
01:47I have to sit in front.
01:49I have to sit in front.
01:50So today, we are going to a cooking class.
01:53I feel like cooking together is really, really important in a relationship.
01:58And seeing how well we work together.
02:00You could say it's romantic.
02:14Wow.
02:15Oh, my goodness.
02:17This is incredible.
02:19Ah, buongiorno.
02:21This is crazy.
02:23What are we making here?
02:24What is this?
02:25We will make our traditional pasta from Sardinia.
02:29Ravioli di ricotta.
02:30Oh, yes.
02:32Wow.
02:32Bacon pasta.
02:33I think I figured that out.
02:35Wow.
02:37Authentic Italian pasta is just, this is great.
02:42He's the best chef in the island.
02:44His name is Pietro.
02:45My name is Piero.
02:47So, Pedro and...
02:49Pietro and Piero.
02:50Got it.
02:51Pietro, Piero.
02:52Piero.
02:52He doesn't speak English.
02:53So, I will translate for you.
02:55Perfect.
02:56Excellent.
02:57All right.
02:58Yes.
03:01So, we must be kneading the pasta.
03:04Now?
03:04Yeah.
03:05Now?
03:05Just do as he's doing.
03:07Circle.
03:09Put a little bit of water.
03:11Little, little bit.
03:12Yes.
03:13And then start kneading.
03:15He's moving.
03:16It's amazing how quickly he did that.
03:18It's not that simple.
03:20Just like love.
03:22However...
03:23As the weather goes.
03:25Yes.
03:25Missy and I have never cooked before.
03:27I think we've only had his mom's cooking.
03:30Because we were so young when we dated.
03:32So, this should be very interesting.
03:34More water, Paul.
03:35A little bit.
03:36Mmm.
03:36I had no idea how to make pasta.
03:38I didn't even know.
03:39I mean, it's not that complicated.
03:40I should have known.
03:41Oh, I'm thinking of pasta.
03:43But I just like adding the right amount of water and the kneading...
03:47Paul and I kneading together.
03:49You know, it's just...
03:50It has to be the right consistency.
03:53Not unlike a relationship.
03:55Ah!
03:55I just thought about that.
03:56Pasta is like a relationship.
03:59You guys see how I have flour on me?
04:01Good enough.
04:03Why are you gonna take my eyebrow off?
04:08So, good job.
04:09Good job.
04:10I love this.
04:11Yeah.
04:12It must become like this.
04:13So then you will do a line and you will cut.
04:17It's late.
04:19Oh my gosh.
04:21That's hard.
04:23Right?
04:24Go like this.
04:26And kneading it.
04:27Like, he always takes over when I'm, like, not knowing what to do or he helps me.
04:32He's giving a little, like, massage, you know?
04:35And that is something really, really important in a relationship.
04:38Because even just the little things, they mean so much.
04:41That arm workout today, you know?
04:44The man of the house.
04:47Good job, everybody.
04:48Damn.
04:49So now we are gonna put the pasta from one size big to a size a little bit smaller.
04:56You do it in increments, correct?
04:58Slowly get it thinner and thinner.
05:00Exactly.
05:00Ooh, careful, careful.
05:01We are gonna put a ricotta that is very typical from Sardinia.
05:05And the best ricotta is the ricotta of Perfugas.
05:08Can we taste the ricotta?
05:10Of course.
05:14I like to do everything in the kitchen.
05:16How do you feel about cooking with someone?
05:19Like, can you have someone else in the kitchen?
05:21No, I like to take control.
05:22I love to cook so that I'm like, I need a man to fix my fire.
05:26That's hard though.
05:28I feel like I could like learn a lot about it.
05:30She is very much a take charge type of person.
05:33So I kind of let her take the lead a little bit.
05:35But I want to be in the kitchen with someone.
05:38I want to have that relationship where we're kind of doing things together.
05:42I don't even let somebody clean up.
05:44That's not her style and that doesn't always feel good.
05:50Wow, look at that.
05:52Look at these raviolis.
05:56Okay.
05:57Oh my goodness.
05:58All around.
05:59Okay.
06:01Yay!
06:05That was amazing.
06:20My name is Autumn.
06:22I'm 27 years old and I'm from San Angelo, Texas.
06:25I'm here right now in Italy to see Calvin.
06:27He invited me out here for a second chance at love.
06:34My name is Calvin.
06:35I am 34 years old and I'm from Boston, Massachusetts.
06:38The reason I'm here in Italy is to finally rekindle with someone I had deep feelings for.
06:46Calvin and I met six years ago.
06:48I was in college in Alpine and he was there to play baseball.
06:53First time I saw Autumn, I met her during the baseball season.
06:56I was playing professional baseball and I spotted her.
06:59I said, all right, she is beautiful.
07:00He came up, introduced himself.
07:02We exchanged numbers.
07:03She was great vibes.
07:05We ended up hitting it off and we're together for about five months.
07:10We had really strong feelings for each other.
07:12He was someone that I was just instantly comfortable with.
07:15I fell in love.
07:16Come to know she felt the same way.
07:18But I was leaving and she was going to stay back in college.
07:22We was in two different parts of our lives.
07:24He was playing travel ball.
07:26When he had to leave, it was really hard for both of us.
07:28And I was really emotional about it.
07:31So calling her and telling her about this opportunity, she was very excited for that.
07:36I think now is a good time to try to reunite and see if we could be something more.
07:41We only have two weeks here to see if this is something that is going to work.
07:46We kind of got off to a late start.
07:49My flight was delayed.
07:51Still no bags.
07:54I'm pretty nervous to see Calvin.
07:57But I'm also very excited.
07:59And I know he's been waiting a couple days for me to get here.
08:02So it's about time I finally show up.
08:06I got butterflies.
08:07I'm nervous.
08:08My hands are shaking.
08:09She's grown.
08:10I've grown as a person.
08:12I'm wondering if she still feels the same about me.
08:14My biggest fear with seeing Calvin again is that he won't feel the same spark as he did before.
08:20Six years is a really long time.
08:23I know how I feel about it.
08:25But it's just, can it happen again?
08:40I think it's amazing that they're actually going to take what we actually made today and we're going to try
08:46and see how good we are.
08:48Right.
08:48Mine's going to be good.
08:54Oh, wow.
08:55Oh, my God.
08:56Okay.
08:57I'm in heaven.
08:58Oh.
08:59This is what we made?
09:00Oh, my goodness.
09:02That ricotta was so good.
09:03Oh, my gosh.
09:04Only one.
09:05Only one.
09:06That's it.
09:07Okay.
09:07That's it.
09:09Oh, you're not going to pray with me?
09:10That's how you feel?
09:11Sorry.
09:12You think you just do that alone?
09:14I'll let you go.
09:15No, you go.
09:16Father, please bless this food that we're about to receive.
09:19Thank you for this experience and that's bringing us closer.
09:21In God's name I pray.
09:22Amen.
09:22Mm-hmm.
09:24I want the moment of truth together.
09:27Here we go.
09:31It's the real deal.
09:33Cheers.
09:34Cheers.
09:36Wow.
09:37What?
09:38Is that real?
09:39That just hits the spot.
09:41Oh, my gosh.
09:42We created that together.
09:43I know.
09:44Mm-hmm.
09:46Mm-hmm.
09:48Wow.
09:49They're like tiny little pillows of joy.
09:58Oh, my goodness.
10:00I think normally when I have pasta, it tastes like pasta.
10:04The ravioli we made, not to brag, but it was incredible.
10:11Give a hand to yourself.
10:13Oh, my God.
10:17Oh, my God.
10:18Oh, my God.
10:40Oh, my God.
10:43It's been so long.
10:45I'm so happy to see you.
10:46Six years?
10:48It's too long.
10:51I feel I'm starstruck.
10:52Oh, my God.
10:55Real quick, set up, you know, a little picnic for us.
10:59I know, you know, you like views.
11:03Here you are.
11:04Let's take a seat.
11:10So, six long years, huh?
11:13Feels like 20.
11:17This is surreal today.
11:19I know.
11:21You look as beautiful as you do, so you haven't changed a bit.
11:26I was going to say, you look exactly the same.
11:30So, don't mind me if I'm a little, you know, jittery.
11:33I got butterflies.
11:34Oh, definitely.
11:35I'm super nervous.
11:36See, you still give me the butterflies.
11:37You still give me the butterflies.
11:38That's a good thing.
11:39When I first saw you, the same butterflies, you know?
11:43It's a good start.
11:44It's a good start.
11:44Yeah, 100%.
11:48So, why did me to come out here and try to get a second chance with?
11:53I feel like we had a good thing just at the wrong time.
11:58Mm-hmm.
12:00You know, and...
12:01I agree.
12:03There was a lot going on.
12:04A lot going on in different places, and...
12:07The long distance.
12:09It would have been hard for us to try to make something work then.
12:12You know, I didn't want to keep living, like, thinking, like, what if, or I should've, or we should have.
12:18So, um, that's why you was first-round draft pick.
12:28What did you miss?
12:31To the reunion.
12:32Cheers.
12:32To the reunion.
12:33Why did you ask that?
12:35So, I just wanted to see if it could be something in the future for us.
12:39That's music to my ears.
12:41Mm.
12:43So...
12:44Oh.
12:44Ah!
12:48Where is it?
12:49Yeah, we're good.
12:50Nope, wait.
12:51Don't say we're good.
12:52Yeah, we're good.
12:55It's gone, it's gone.
13:01It felt like nothing has changed.
13:03It was like we, you know, we started off where we left off from before.
13:08I felt like I could sit up here all day and just, like, watch the boats and stuff.
13:11I know, that's why I picked it out.
13:13I know you like this type of thing.
13:14It's super pretty.
13:16I'm glad you enjoy it.
13:17I'm glad you like it.
13:18I was pretty nervous, I'm not gonna lie.
13:20But for that being the first time with us seeing each other in six years, I have no complaints.
13:26My mom told me I know how to pick them a little bit.
13:28All right, leave.
13:29Yeah?
13:30Yeah.
13:34Can we make the transition to having a deeper level of intimacy?
13:38If you want, like, marriage and kids again, because that's what I'm looking for.
13:43I thought that you knew this.
13:45He is hot and cold with me.
13:47It's 45 years ago, you know, he did let me go.
13:49I wanted to reminisce about when we broke up, or as you like to say, I dumped you.
13:54It's kind of heavy.
13:56Yeah, I know.
13:56I don't know what the future holds.
14:07Are they here?
14:09It's so pretty, right?
14:10It's beautiful.
14:11Do we have new people?
14:12Yeah.
14:13Finally.
14:13Hi.
14:14Hey, guys, we got a little surprise for you.
14:16Yes, we do.
14:17Oh, hi, guys.
14:18What's so mean?
14:18I'm Camille.
14:19Hi.
14:19Hi.
14:20Hi.
14:20Hi.
14:20Hi.
14:21Hi.
14:21Hi.
14:21Hi.
14:21Welcome.
14:22The next couple's here, guys.
14:24Oh, my God.
14:25There's new people.
14:26Oh, my God.
14:27I'm Calvin.
14:28Welcome.
14:29Well, welcome.
14:30Yeah, welcome.
14:31You guys had some trouble getting here, right?
14:33Was it you?
14:34A little bit.
14:35It was LA.
14:36Had to stay the night in London, and then I just showed up today with no bags.
14:41They didn't make it either.
14:43No, it's coming.
14:44I know it's coming.
14:45Right.
14:45I hope your bags come here tomorrow.
14:47We're going to leave you guys to it.
14:49Glad everybody met.
14:50Bye.
14:51Bye.
14:55This is kind of like your little patio area.
14:57Okay.
14:57This is funny.
14:58I'm a realtor, so I'm showing you the property.
15:01This is our living room, you know?
15:04Smooth.
15:06Come on in.
15:07Yes.
15:08This is your bed.
15:10I bet you're so happy to be here.
15:13I am.
15:15It's cool to see Calvin and Autumn finally here.
15:17We honestly have such a great group.
15:19We're here to support and just be welcoming.
15:22Let us know if there's anything we can help you with, and you know.
15:26I think I have some extra pajamas too.
15:28Brand new pair actually, so.
15:29This is where we will be sleeping.
15:33Ooh.
15:33And so I'm here, and then Mateen's there, and then I'm in the middle.
15:38Let's do it.
15:39Let's do it.
15:40This is going to be cool.
15:42This is going to be cool.
15:43This is going to be cool.
15:56We all get to do like a little bros, like, you know what I'm saying?
16:00You know?
16:01Yes!
16:02Yes!
16:04Yeah!
16:05One, two, three, bros!
16:08Yeah!
16:10All right, let's never do that again.
16:16Tonight is mine and Alan's first date.
16:20It always feels like when we were kids, with a little crush.
16:23But I hope that this date will change the dynamic a little bit.
16:28I think it's important to kind of explore the romantic connection, because we met in seventh grade.
16:36You ready, my dear?
16:38We've never really had space to move past this kind of like middle school dynamic.
16:43Looking all cute!
16:44Thanks!
16:45This is really the first time that I'm seeing her kind of in her full womanhood.
16:52And she's seeing me in my manhood.
16:56And yeah, I'm a little nervous about it.
17:00Shall we?
17:00We look like we're about to storm a boardroom.
17:08Oh my gosh, this is Ed!
17:09Is this it?
17:10Is this it?
17:10Wow!
17:12This is it?
17:13Yum, come on!
17:14Why don't we sit, like, across from our people, our partner?
17:19I think this is me.
17:20Is this the tartar?
17:22This is the tartar.
17:23Wow!
17:23It looks like it needs to be cooked.
17:25Sparkling.
17:26So excited!
17:28It's just too great.
17:30Bon appetit!
17:35It's dangerous walking here, because I'm looking at everything but where I'm going.
17:40Going on this date with Alan, I'm ready to open up and see what kind of feelings pop up.
17:46Reservations for Alan?
17:47Please.
17:48Oh my goodness.
17:50Wow.
17:50Watch your step.
17:51Wow.
17:52I want to know who she is as a woman and what sort of things, you know, she wants in
17:58her
17:58life and if we have compatibility around that.
18:02I'm just excited to have more conversations with her and kind of check in.
18:05This is really, really nice of you, the setting.
18:09You look amazing.
18:10Thank you so much.
18:11You look so nice too.
18:14So how are you feeling?
18:16It's been incredible spending time with you, getting to know you a little bit better.
18:19Yeah, and I think I'm curious about what sparks romance for you.
18:28You know, that takes time.
18:30Growing up, my parents showed me love in a different way.
18:34Right.
18:35And that it was kind of seen as like, no, it's not good to be like that in public.
18:40I would never see my mom and my dad kiss before.
18:44If you're in relationship with someone, are you comfortable with affection?
18:49Behind closed doors, yes.
18:50Oh, wow.
18:51Yeah.
18:51Yeah, of course.
18:53Are you an affectionate person?
18:57Yeah, yeah, yeah.
18:58I like physical affection, being warm.
19:02And in my marriage in particular, it was not, you know, very affectionate.
19:08I'm definitely kind of more conscious of that and conscious of the consequences of not having
19:13that, you know, in a relationship.
19:15Have you ever thought about what it would be like to be in relationship with me, like romantically?
19:22I have not, because I just thought, you know, we're just really good friends.
19:28You said that you haven't felt a spark for me, and I feel that.
19:32I didn't say that I never had a spark with you.
19:35Oh, okay.
19:35I never said that.
19:36Say more.
19:37I did have that spark for you.
19:39Right now, I'm trying to relive that.
19:42Like, I'm going back now.
19:44Oh, really?
19:45Yeah.
19:46I need to stop drinking.
19:48Are you getting both?
19:48I love it.
19:49Maybe you're getting a spark.
19:51Oh.
19:55It's called getting the ball rolling, Leslie.
19:58So you may not know this, but we play games.
20:01I have some questions, and I'm going to ask Paul a question.
20:04Paul, are you ready?
20:05Uh, born ready.
20:06Okay.
20:07What do you think my view on marriage is?
20:12Oh, God.
20:13I didn't say that we're going to be easy.
20:14Pick another one.
20:15No.
20:17No.
20:18You think it's a good thing.
20:20You know, I don't know.
20:20You were married.
20:21Married a great guy.
20:22I should have asked you before he did.
20:26But that has nothing to do with that question.
20:28I just thought I'd throw that in.
20:29I like it, though.
20:30You can throw in a little something.
20:33What are all your views on marriage?
20:36Okay.
20:37I only want to get married one time in my life.
20:40I don't ever want to have any kind of divorce.
20:44I'm about that, too.
20:45I'm all about just, like, working through things.
20:47Like, you know, being able to talk and work things out.
20:50I like your answer.
20:51Communication.
20:51Communication.
20:52Yeah.
20:52About it.
20:54What do you think?
20:55Uh, I think marriage is cool.
20:57Everybody thinks a marriage is the wedding.
20:59It's not just the wedding.
21:00Mm-hmm.
21:00It's a lot after the wedding.
21:02I'm terrified.
21:04Oh!
21:05Oh, God.
21:06I love the honesty.
21:07I just want to make sure that my children are protected,
21:09like, everything that I already have.
21:11And you just want to make sure you mesh with the right person,
21:14because you never know.
21:15Yeah, I would love to have a life partner.
21:18You know?
21:19I would just...
21:20Wrong guy.
21:21Don't do that.
21:21No, I mean, it's definitely something that I understand
21:24where you're coming from, but it is, you know,
21:26a little creepy.
21:27Um...
21:28But...
21:28But it's a beautiful thing.
21:30It's definitely scary.
21:32It's definitely work, and you've got to find someone
21:34that's willing to put the same amount of work in as you.
21:37You are a team, and it's teamwork, and it's how you work together,
21:40and your ultimate goals.
21:42I love marriage, and I loved being married.
21:44I haven't been married, so I'm just going off of what I see,
21:48you know?
21:49But I think it's a beautiful thing.
21:52I like that.
21:56I didn't say that I never had a spark with you.
21:58I think there was that spark, but then I think we just didn't
22:01really, like, explore it to this... like this, to this extent.
22:05Right.
22:06You know, when you came to visit me in Vegas, and we tried it out,
22:10we had such a great time.
22:12So great.
22:12I mean, it was so much fun.
22:14And then life moved on, right?
22:17Yeah.
22:19First of all, do you feel any spark for me?
22:22Definitely when we reconnected in Vegas as adults,
22:26I definitely felt that spark, and to the point where I was
22:30considering, you know, switching up my entire life
22:32so that we could explore it.
22:34You did not. Really?
22:35Yeah.
22:36I seriously considered that.
22:38And that was, again, it was like a sliding door moment in my life.
22:42Yeah.
22:42It was like a fork in the road. I could have gone either way.
22:46Mm-hmm.
22:46So can we make the transition from being friends
22:49to having a deeper level of intimacy?
22:53That's kind of the open question right now.
22:55It is the open question, and I think that I'm...
22:58There is... I feel like there's a possibility for, you know,
23:02on my side.
23:03Hmm.
23:09I'm waiting for you to answer and not laugh.
23:12Do what?
23:13I'm waiting for you to...
23:15Oh!
23:18Um...
23:19Don't make me pull one out and start sword fighting.
23:24Absolutely, you know.
23:25Mm-hmm.
23:26I wouldn't, you know, wouldn't have invited you here
23:28if I didn't think that.
23:29Yeah.
23:30And I think it could be, like, a pretty explosive,
23:33you know, relationship.
23:34No, me too.
23:36I...
23:37I wanted to get more deeper into knowing, like,
23:41what you wanted in a relationship,
23:43and if you want, like, marriage and kids again,
23:46and...
23:47Because that's what I'm looking for.
23:50Um, hopefully...
23:50You do, you do.
23:51I thought that you knew this.
23:57I don't want to get hurt.
23:58I want to go slow with you.
24:00Having someone, like, love me is scary.
24:03It's just, like, pretty much taking us, you know,
24:06to the next level.
24:07We talked about, you know, getting married,
24:09and...
24:09Oh, wow.
24:10The M word.
24:16I do want to get married again.
24:18Okay.
24:18And I thought that you knew this.
24:21I want to get married again.
24:23And for me to have children.
24:25That's one of the biggest things that I look for in someone.
24:29I want...
24:29For them to want the same thing.
24:31And, um...
24:34Would you be open to having kids?
24:37Um...
24:37Yeah, for sure.
24:39Yeah.
24:40Yeah.
24:40Yeah.
24:41If I did have another kid, I would want it to be with someone that I care about,
24:44and a respect, and a love.
24:46Just would check the boxes on that for me.
24:49I'm a full-time single dad.
24:51My kids are, uh, 16 and 11.
24:54I love both of my kids at every stage.
24:57The experience of having children is amazing.
25:00And I would love to do it again.
25:02Kids are amazing.
25:03You get to love them at every age.
25:05Yeah.
25:05I tell them that I love them all the time.
25:07I see a softer side of Alan that is nurturing and caring.
25:13He's so genuine about how he wants his kids to be happy, and that touches me.
25:17Because I also want to have kids, and I want to have the experience that he's had.
25:23If we did, you know, have kids or something like that, our kids are going to be gorgeous.
25:28Yeah.
25:28Tall.
25:28Tall.
25:31All I want to be is all you.
25:33It's been really nice.
25:34I've, for me, you know, like, doing this and to see this side of you.
25:38Yes.
25:39Cheers.
25:40All that I want, is to be anywhere.
25:46It's been great talking to you, guys.
25:49We're gonna exit.
25:50See you later, roomies.
25:52Uh, that was so good.
25:53and that was so much fun I'll walk you to your room you ask me if I snore at
26:01night yes well one day if you're lucky you'll find I play my cards right I
26:07might just find out
26:11bye you don't let people touch me this public no PDA's out yeah this is this is
26:18this is a lot already this is a lot happening but but it's nice no this is nice I guess
26:25I should
26:25be on it right got soft hands thank you you were reading my palm the other night so I think
26:36that
26:37you're gonna live a long life that's good and we're gonna have 12 kids 12 kids it's a lot
26:46it's really not if you if you think about it like we're we could do it whatever whatever you know
26:54I think whatever makes you happy I'm okay with how about that that makes me happy I definitely want
27:03to be like a dad someday and I definitely want to have like a family and I want to do
27:07all that stuff
27:07and yeah you know I don't know what are you thinking I just want to be I want to go
27:15slow
27:15with you and like you know I'm all about that it's not but I don't like curious like you know
27:23there's
27:23like no there's absolutely no rush to like any of this well I don't I don't want to get hurt
27:29I get
27:30scared of like those kinds of things like yeah like for me before coming here I I was in a
27:38relationship you know with her for four years and mm-hmm um you know like tell me a little bit
27:47about all that cuz is that weird to ask you no cuz I want I want you to be open
27:53and everything you
27:55know yeah she went to London and she broke up with me over FaceTime that was fun and then I
28:06thought that
28:07she wanted a ring and I what proposed and she left me standing in the middle of the street and
28:17drove away and that was the last time I spoke with her and but you know what I wouldn't have
28:25traded any
28:26of that for the world because I know that my person would never go and do that to me by
28:34going through
28:35all of that I'm here now right and I never thought that I would be doing any of this especially
28:47like
28:47with you and it's just and I'll get into myself at some point I'm not fully ready to open up
28:55I just
28:57just give me some time but I I just want to say I really do appreciate you opening up to
29:02me it means
29:03so much like that truly means the world to me anything for you he could be vulnerable with me so
29:15that means a lot I need to open up but I'm just a bit nervous to let him in my
29:26heart
29:39Leslie Leslie Leslie Leslie are you sorry you okay well I'm so sorry I had to wake you up to
29:45tell you
29:45I had such an amazing day we talked about like some pretty step you hadn't talked about before
29:53yeah I mean like family you know like um because I we've never spoken about that before and I told
29:59him like you know getting married and oh wow the m-word just ask him like a general question about
30:05like marriage and kids would he ever have he's willing to have more children yeah and it would
30:11mean a lot to me and my whole world if I got to you know have children one day so
30:18I'm really glad that
30:19we had this time to talk because we just really opened up to one another and I think like you
30:26know
30:26it's just like pretty much taking us you know to the next level and like um openness you know now
30:32you can really move forward because you have established like but yeah I mean like honestly I
30:40cannot wait to see Ellen in the morning
30:43wow I know or just tell me the story all over again in the morning I don't remember it yeah
30:49okay goodnight
30:59does he want more children um how about no I think we need to explore this
31:07so about our conversation at the swimming pool
31:10are you going to make me cry or something again no no no
31:38autumn
31:40What are you doing, getting ready still?
31:42I was cleaning up, but um...
31:44That's better.
31:45You're still a little pasty right here.
31:47I know, I know.
31:49Here we are again, we are again.
31:52Oh yeah, actually I liked how you did that.
31:55Write it down, we got plenty of paper.
31:59Ellen, you were up looking at the pictures?
32:02Yeah, that was so fun yesterday.
32:08Yesterday, we had this romantic evening.
32:11I think it was incredible actually.
32:14You know, I'm still kind of like unpacking it and letting it settle.
32:18I'm trying to learn how to swim.
32:20I know how to float, but as soon as I stick my head up or something, I sink.
32:25Would you want to learn how to swim in the pool?
32:28I would definitely, but no one has ever been successful teaching me how to swim.
32:31You just have to feel safe in the water.
32:34Trust the water.
32:35Yeah.
32:36I have issues with trust.
32:37I want to be in control.
32:39Yeah, yeah.
32:40Like jump in, three, two, one, and then we all leave you.
32:51Live your best life, Paul.
32:55It's really deep here.
32:57I'm literally on chiptons.
33:01Do you girls have your personality?
33:03At times, but they are Scorpio, so they're very emotional.
33:08But when you talk to Mateen about your family unit and your expectations, does he want more children?
33:15Um, I wouldn't know.
33:17That's a great question.
33:19I think we need to explore this.
33:22Right.
33:23Me and Mateen have been, you know, going with the flow, keeping it light.
33:27And I mean, maybe that's something that we need to flip soon, because we do need to get into those
33:31deep conversations and questions.
33:34But I'm sure those things will come up.
33:35How do you even broach that?
33:37So, did you want to have a baby with me?
33:47What are you guys expecting after this?
33:50Because I've done the long-distance stuff, and it's hard.
33:53Has she been to Boston?
33:54She hasn't.
33:55Okay.
33:56Do you think she would move from Texas?
33:58No, I can move.
33:59Yeah.
34:00I was talking to Leslie about it yesterday.
34:01I was like, would you be cool moving back up to Washington and see Paul?
34:04She's like, yeah, I'm from there.
34:05Like, I don't have a problem with doing that.
34:06So, problem solved.
34:08There you go.
34:09That would have been great.
34:10Yeah.
34:11So awesome.
34:15Do you feel like something's going to come out of this between you and Paul?
34:20He is hot and cold with me, and I don't know if he's guarding his heart.
34:24He's been guarding my heart, too.
34:26Mm.
34:26Because 45 years ago, you know, he did let me go.
34:30Mm.
34:30And so, I am not going to be in my 60s and get done for a second time in my
34:35life.
34:35But I'm telling you, I feel like he's all in.
34:38Really?
34:39I think he adores you.
34:40I really do.
34:41But yeah, I think he does.
34:43I think he does.
34:44Okay, cool.
34:44I see it.
34:57This place is adorable.
34:59Two things I want to buy already.
35:01Really?
35:03Razmi and Alan and Paul and I are all going shopping.
35:07Look at this store.
35:08Ooh.
35:08Wow.
35:09I'm trying to learn how to swim, and I'm going to find a swimming suit.
35:14I just need a couple outfits.
35:16Also, Paul.
35:17I like that.
35:18You do?
35:19I think someone that Prince would wear.
35:21Okay.
35:21I think it's time that he step up his wardrobe a little bit.
35:25I spare swimsuits over here.
35:27Oh, yes.
35:28Oh, my gosh.
35:29We're going in here.
35:30Okay, will you guys have fun?
35:32I can't even take everything.
35:35No, there's not one thing I don't like, so what am I supposed to do?
35:38Paul, look.
35:39You would look so cute in this.
35:41That's actually not bad.
35:42Ah!
35:43The black.
35:43And in black to be elegant when we go out.
35:47I'm not buying three.
35:48I'll get two.
35:49I'll get two.
35:52I'll get two.
35:53You definitely want to pick something that you're going to be comfortable swimming in
35:58that'll help you learn how to swim.
36:02I think that this is going to be very comfortable.
36:07But I still don't think that you guys are going to succeed.
36:10That's the spirit.
36:14All this time with Alan, especially after our first date, I've gotten to that next level
36:20with Alan of openness.
36:23Yeah, I feel like it is going somewhere.
36:27If you try, it's lovely.
36:30Just try.
36:33When Leslie and I were dating, my priority was my career.
36:38I think that had a lot to do with why we separated.
36:43Is it me?
36:45Given the chance, if things were to progress in the future, I mean, I wouldn't make that
36:50mistake again.
36:53So, I wanted to reminisce.
36:55I was reminiscing for a moment about our conversation at the swimming pool.
37:00Do you remember?
37:02And when...
37:04It's kind of heavy.
37:05Yeah, no, not too.
37:06Are you going to make me cry or something again?
37:07No, no, no.
37:08I just wanted to, you know, that when we broke up, or as you like to say, I dumped you.
37:15Well, you...
37:17I don't know if I...
37:19You disengaged with me?
37:20I don't know if I told you how...
37:21You uncoupled?
37:22How...
37:23Sorry.
37:23How profoundly sorry.
37:25I am.
37:26For that.
37:28For that.
37:29For you?
37:30Well, we have all regrets in life.
37:32And that...
37:33And you know that was like my biggest one.
37:36And that...
37:37And you would be...
37:37Okay, seriously.
37:38I would never give you...
37:38Like in your whole life.
37:41Yeah.
37:42Yes.
37:43I don't know what the future holds.
37:45But I will never, ever do that again.
37:48Yeah.
37:49So I just wanted you to know that.
37:51But I'm not going to make the same mistake twice.
37:53Don't be so...
37:58You're welcome, baby.
38:01Paul looking in my eyes with such sincerity and such sorrow that he hurt me and that he
38:07truly could empathize.
38:09He could feel what I felt so many years ago.
38:12Oh, my God.
38:13Okay.
38:13So this hat...
38:14You were looking at this hat, were you?
38:15I won't forget this.
38:17I won't forget this moment.
38:18Ever.
38:18Whatever happens to us, I'm going to know that he is a good soul.
38:22And he is a good man.
38:24Retail therapy.
38:25Oh, man.
38:27Oh, my God.
38:37Thank you guys so much for the hangers.
38:40You guys are so sweet, though, thinking about your new roommate.
38:44Last night when we all were, like, relaxed and it reminded me of high school.
38:48Like, just chilling and vibing out with friends, listening to music.
38:51Same.
38:51It was really nice.
38:52How do you think you and Blake are doing?
38:54I don't know.
38:55I'm just, like, excited.
38:56Like, you're his person, maybe?
39:00You're...
39:01Oh, baby.
39:02Sorry.
39:02Big question, Leslie.
39:04It is a big question.
39:05It is a big question.
39:07Oh, my God.
39:08I think, like, with me, it is hard for me to open up.
39:12And I really want to with him.
39:15But I'm just taking it, like, one step at a time.
39:18So I just, I don't, I'm going slow.
39:20Slow with everything.
39:21Mmm.
39:21It's hard for me because, like, I have had bad relationships in the past.
39:25And, like, I always thought of, like, because he was just such a kind-hearted person.
39:31He is, like, somebody that, like, like, I just feel like he could be, like, a great husband.
39:36And so, like, that's why I'm trying to, like, explore those feelings and just everything.
39:41Ooh, we went the husband route.
39:44You said, you heard what they said.
39:46Let me get that fan.
39:47Let me get that fan.
39:48I need the fan.
39:49I'm embarrassed for her.
39:51No, but that's sweet.
39:52That is sweet.
39:53They're, like, good feelings, but, like, scary feelings.
39:56Yeah.
39:56You know what I mean?
39:57I don't know.
39:57But what is your biggest fear?
39:59When somebody gives me so much attention and all of that, it freaks me out.
40:05Oh, I see.
40:05And I'm just, like, whoa.
40:06Like, we need to back up a little.
40:08It's, like, I know that he's such a good guy.
40:10And, like, with the relationships that I've been in, having someone, like, love me in, like, such a healthy way
40:17is scary for me.
40:20To be continued.
40:21Oh, yes.
40:22To be continued.
40:23To be continued.
40:23With the previous relationships that I've been in, I've, like, I was really hurt.
40:31I worked on myself for two years, and I thought that I was there, you know?
40:36Like, I thought that I was feeling, like, I mean, I do feel confident in myself.
40:42But I just hope that Blake will just give me some time to figure things out.
41:00I just want to see if this can work.
41:03I'm getting flashes of what we had back then.
41:08You know, when somebody gets too close to me, I am just scared.
41:14So we're halfway through.
41:16Would you be romantically interested in me?
41:20Um...
41:22I gotta go.
41:24Yeah?
41:24Yeah.
41:25I didn't tell Shakira yet.
41:30How do you get faster?
41:34Why?
41:51See ya?
41:53I did the video.
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