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Inside the CIA: Secrets and Spies - Season 1 - Episode 05: Darrell Blocker - Tracking the Butcher
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00:13you want to know everything they're doing inside the CIA right because a lot of people see the
00:21movies you want to know how it works but there's a reason the CIA does things that they do working
00:28in this secretive world of terrorist groups bad things happen so when you're planning an operation
00:34you're building off of information that's been gathered over a long period of time where you
00:38feel like you know the target you know what's going on in their minds we still don't know how
00:45they did it and they will want to keep that quiet because you want to do it again there was
00:51a raid
00:51against our top Taliban target he was very smart he was very crafty but he was just as evil tell
01:00they tracked him is a very secretive operation to be pulled into this world seeing the level of
01:08hatred and killing and damage that I was being inflicted it was very dangerous and at the end
01:14of the day these people will take your life I have only once ever celebrated the demise of a human
01:42being being being a CIA case officer operating in a foreign land always has a little bit of
01:48loneliness to it taking my family to this part of the world in the terrorism fight that I was fighting
01:55it wasn't an option so yeah it was lonely my name is Darrell Blocker I spent 32 years as an
02:06intelligence
02:07officer four in the military as an analyst and 28 at the Central Intelligence Agency as an operations
02:14officer five years after 9-11 I was serving as a station chief in East Africa when I got the
02:24notice
02:24that you're going to the war zone in the Pakistan Afghanistan theater now in the 2006 2007 timeframe we were
02:35losing in Iraq we were losing in Afghanistan and the terrorists were gaining ground
02:46after the Taliban were hosted in December 2001 most of the Taliban leaders run away into hiding so
02:55Pakistanis provided them safe havens facilitation and they kept their families and themselves hidden from the US forces
03:03I am Lieutenant General Sami Sadat I served as commander of Joint Special Operations Forces Afghanistan which
03:10was the main counterpart for the US Special Forces by 2006 slowly the Taliban had surfaced in small pockets
03:20attacking US and Afghan forces and scaring the population
03:27at that time there was little al-qaeda left to fight so the US immediately shifted focus on to going
03:36after the Taliban
03:40the top Taliban leadership all were based in Pakistan and that was an area where they could rest and refit
03:49but
03:49also be largely immune from attack my name is Mike Vickers I'm a former CIA operations officer and former
03:57undersecretary of defense for intelligence so when they spent a lot of time in Pakistan they had sanctuary but
04:05then also when you go into Afghanistan to fight and lead forces you know Afghanistan's a big country it's the
04:12size of
04:13Texas it's mountainous and there weren't a lot of forces to counter them so given the terrain given some support
04:24in the country enabled them to
04:26operate so the idea that you'd come in for a while fight and then go back to Pakistan where it
04:32was more secure allowed these folks to
04:35survive for a long time the country of Pakistan became a safe haven for the Taliban because the US military
04:42wasn't based in Pakistan what a lot of them did is they live in in Pakistan under false identities and
04:50that's how they're able to blend in I'm Sarah Adams I was the targeter for the top three of the
04:57Taliban both in
04:57Afghanistan and in Pakistan so a targeter is really one of those professions that came out of post 9-11
05:04world finding new ways to track down terrorists and the Taliban paid attention to where the US
05:12government was able to do operations and so they're very smart and savvy to basically stay in what we call
05:18the settled areas of Pakistan where it would be harder to track and locate them that was like the big
05:23shift where the CIA started targeting like the top 10 of the Taliban so the mission was to stop the
05:32fighters from coming outside of the region who wanted to join their terrorist buddies in the fight my job was
05:39to stop them at the source to capture them and stop them from crossing back and forth across Pakistan
05:44Afghanistan borders but at the end of the day the main guy we wanted our top Taliban target was
05:52Mullah de Dela Lang also known as MDL Mullah de Dela Lang was basically operating as like the number two
06:03number three of the Taliban you have a challenge for one stand by newsroom Cherokee Canada bunny in the
06:12today I'm more a lot of Dela Lang was one of the Afghan Mujahideen he was violent he was heartless
06:20he had
06:22lost his leg in fighting against the Soviets there's stories of Mullah de Dela running into the villages
06:34killing all the men shooting women in one instance a Taliban fighter had saw Mullah de Dela entering a
06:43house where everyone was dead and a baby was crying and the Taliban fighters didn't know what to do so
06:49he
06:49grabs the baby and you know throws him into the wall where the baby dies instantly and the other
06:59fighters say why are you doing this and he says that this is the son of a snake a son
07:06of a snake will
07:07become a snake he had a propensity to just be very very brutal he fought against the Soviets so he
07:15had the
07:15credentials of fighting jihad against foreigners and he turned that same attention against the Americans and
07:22the and the UN allies that were in there that Dela was responsible for all the beheadings that have gone
07:28in
07:28Afghanistan he is behind all the suicide bombings in Afghanistan he has beheaded people himself Mullah de Dela is one
07:34of the
07:35commanders who brought suicide bombers into the south strapping up young teenage boys with explosives and having them detonate
07:45today a suicide bomber struck near the Pakistani border violence across the country is at its worst
07:52since the start of the war according to the United Nations in 2004 I think there was like six suicide
07:57attacks in the country but in 2006 it was Mullah de Dela who started the big southern offensive which
08:04basically reinvigorated the Taliban at 8 15 on Saturday morning another strike and in that year there was like
08:12140 suicide attacks and that's when the Taliban then started gaining momentum and really getting
08:18involved and like hey we can win this like we didn't actually lose in 2001. MDL was known within Taliban
08:28circles
08:28as the butcher you don't earn that title easily amongst killers so you can just imagine he was the worst
08:36of the worst
08:39there was a video of him essentially forcing a very young boy 10 to 12 years old to behead a
08:47man that
08:49MDL claimed was responsible for this kid's father's death and all I could think about was
08:56this child is never going to be the same
09:02my son was in his senior year of high school during the year that I was away so I missed
09:08my own kid in
09:09his final year of high school and all I could think about were my own two kids and if they
09:15had been exposed to
09:17this level of depravity how would they be so for me after seeing this video and after recognizing that MDL
09:25was
09:25already on the top of my list he was a person that I wanted to come into my area so
09:32that I could be
09:33responsible for taking him down operationally end of 2006 beginning 2007 MDL was probably the number one
09:44target in Afghanistan due to how many deaths were being caused he was the top of the food chain planning
09:51those operations and so he knew he was at the top of the hit list for the cia for our
09:57partners in the
09:58region but the operation targeting MDL became really complex because he moved around a lot he got to the
10:08point where he would only start giving commands or talking to his commanders face to face it was rare
10:15to hear his voice on internal Taliban comms or on the open line because he knew he was being tracked
10:26so there's a lot of different places you can get information to track and locate them
10:32you rely very heavily on human intelligence but then also this newer generation they actually post
10:39social media and as you can imagine and that's very helpful when you're trying to locate someone
10:42you also use a lot of signals intelligence like just tracking phones for example in the old days
10:49signals intelligence was largely about airwaves and people talking to each other over the radio it now
10:55expands obviously to the internet and to getting in to the computers of the bad guys as well as still
11:03intercepting communications over mobile telephones
11:08my name is michael smith i spent a decade in british military intelligence before becoming a journalist
11:18even when you're not talking on it your cell phone will stay in contact with the antennae
11:25as you travel around and that frequency can be accessed to actually not just listen to your telephone
11:32conversations they can listen in to you so that's the capabilities of signals intelligence
11:42so we found out that mdl is in country and he is in this specific location in my area of
11:50operations
11:51and we came up with a plan which was this raid directed at mdl and what you're planning is
11:59not just the capture of this guy but getting out safely and that could be the difference between
12:07success or someone losing life
12:20unfortunately turns out that the actual location mdl might be in was a mosque
12:28so i had to make a decision whether to to hit a mosque or not when it comes to like
12:33a mosque or madrasa
12:35terrorists use these as covers some really aren't even used as a mosque at all
12:41if they put the sign on the building and then obviously if anything's done against it you know it
12:45can become a human rights violation and so it's almost impossible to do a cia operation against them
12:52and remember in these villages there's people who are armed just like in america everyone has a gun
12:58and there is some you know sympathizers to the mullah some sympathizers to the mosque there's a lot of
13:04rest that you need to consider out of respect for the religion out of respect for
13:11the actual physical location of this place of worship we were ready to walk away
13:20our foreign partners however said we don't have the same concerns we're also muslim he is making our
13:28religion look bad we're going to do this on our own if you guys don't join us
13:33well we know how it was going to end if if they let it they were going to kill him
13:39but we needed to
13:40capture him to gather more intelligence and counterterrorism capture operations the goal is
13:48to isolate this person stop them from doing more harm and then pick their brain and gather as much
13:54information as you possibly can so we needed to capture mdl and talk about things these raids they're
14:07always different every day you can plan them for as long as you want but things almost never go as
14:14their plan which is why you plan for contingencies all day every day
14:22as the senior cia guy on the particular raid i would be in the command vehicle in touch with all
14:30the
14:31parties that were actually moving our officers were armed our foreign intelligence service partners
14:42were armed we were flanking from two different sides
14:47we put somebody on a rooftop so we were ready for all possibilities
14:56it was time to execute
15:02we launched the raiding party into the objective
15:13these are very fast from the time they launch to when they're coming out with whoever they have
15:18could be as short as two or three minutes so you're not waiting a long time but you're amped up
15:26as high as
15:50the fact that a mosque was involved
15:52you know to know that there are armed people moving around inside who might meet resistance and might
15:59have to pull a trigger that i'm responsible for even though this operation is being completely led
16:07by our local partners
16:13i've compared it to like waiting for your kid to come home from a from a date and you're you're
16:18the parent at
16:19home late at night and you don't know what's going to happen
16:25it's kind of like that it's a it's a little unnerving to not know what's going on or what's happening
16:38eventually the team members they came back and i was disappointed when i recognized that the three
16:45people that they were walking out none of them had a prosthetic leg or was limping in a way that
16:50might
16:50suggest that they had prosthetic leg mdl didn't look anything like the people that were captured
16:58and then the third person i thought it was a girl at first but it was a very effeminate young
17:05kid
17:0615 16 years old somewhere in that range who i thought was odd that they would capture a child
17:15because to that date we never had
17:19and after the three people were taken into custody
17:23the team that did the assault came running back to the vehicle like someone was chasing them
17:33and it was weird because they typically didn't run i could tell something was different and i said
17:39well what's wrong and i said well do you hear the voices coming from the loudspeakers
17:44i said yeah it's it's time for you know midday prayers
17:49no sir that's them saying service is here they've taken someone from a mosque
17:54and get out in the streets and stop any vehicle that they're traveling in right this second
18:04and this kind of tactic was used time and time again when we went into the raids into these villages
18:10the way to get their attention is to use the mosque's loudspeaker and call the men is like hey foreign
18:16forces are here if anyone wants to you know kill them this is your moment come out and fight
18:23i know what they do to people that they capture so i went from being completely relaxed
18:30to chaos is about to happen
18:38they're describing us they're describing our vehicle
18:43if those guys stop us from leaving we're going to be captured or killed
18:55but pre-planning and knowing the roads in and out was our job
19:00so we were able to get everybody out safely with zero shots fired
19:09unfortunately the main guy we wanted mdl was not there
19:15i think for a person like mullah dadela to race through the ranks and survive so many wars he must
19:22have been very smart he was someone who knew how to hide and how to survive for so long
19:31he could be anywhere so we were crestfallen we were like we can't catch this guy the u.s had
19:39been
19:39chasing him for four or five years we're never going to catch this guy
19:46but as it turns out we captured three people who were significant to him
19:56so once someone is taken into custody they're in the care of our foreign partners fed house and then
20:05brought to debriefing sessions
20:10i've seen debriefings probably be the best type of intelligence right because
20:15by the end of the day we're still just humans talking to humans and you have to have that level
20:21of humanity because the debriefing isn't to sit there and say i know everything about you and you're
20:27a bad guy it is a fact finding mission so i started a series of debriefings to get information
20:39people call it interrogation interrogation just has a negative connotation so with each debriefing my
20:46approach was to make sure i was kind to everyone even people that i knew were mass murderers and there
20:52were some that were mass murderers but i knew they were better than the worst thing they ever did
20:56so that was typically my mindset when i was going to sit across from someone that would look at me
21:03and
21:03say i want to kill you and everything that you stand for and it's really difficult to not allow
21:10those people to impact you in a way that's going to make you come down to their level but they're
21:16not
21:16really directing that at me i'm not really the focus of their of their animus or their hatred my system
21:24my government my country might be but if i can get them on a one-to-one level then you
21:30can start to
21:30break down those barriers i always felt it was important to treat people with respect no matter
21:36what they've done growing up that was always my thinking
21:42i grew up in the hill of the boot italy okinawa japan and texas before we moved to georgia when
21:49i
21:49was 11. my father was an intelligence nco in the air force my interest in foreign relations really is
21:56born out of the fact that i grew up in other cultures and then i was this black kid moving
22:00to georgia a
22:01couple years after desegregation and it was weird because growing up on military bases everybody's
22:07together i get to augusta georgia and big groups of black kids here big groups of white kids here but
22:13only a little bit of groups in the middle and i always felt like i was in the middle not
22:18trapped just
22:19a bridge so i studied things that most people didn't want to talk about i studied the clan i wanted
22:25to know about the kkk i'd heard about it i knew that people were afraid of it i studied the
22:30mafia and i
22:31studied hitler i think it's important to study people because you need to understand what their
22:37positions are why did they come to this what is ultimately their goal and once you have an understanding
22:46of not just what their position is but why it's so much more powerful in terms of actually reaching out
22:53and understanding a situation so with each debriefing with each session where you're talking to them
23:05you got a little bit more granularity and turns out we had captured two of mdl's lieutenants and what is
23:14known as the bacha bazi which is um let's just say he was a sex toy and he was mdl's
23:23sex toy
23:26bacha is a boy and bazi means play bacha bazi is playboy
23:35it actually surprised me that he had um a bacha
23:41it's not allowed in the religion of islam to keep young boys as your sex partner
23:49it's very important to you know to understand that the culture and older men take young boys
23:57for entertainment they have them dance but there's also a sexual dimension to it as well
24:05they're sort of sex slaves the taliban officially banned it and so the practice is frowned upon
24:14but it's also widely practiced by taliban leaders you know so there's an element of hypocrisy there as well
24:24it's a part of the world where you don't acknowledge their wives their sisters their mothers or their
24:30daughters and so they are more comfortable being physical intimate and sexual with a young boy than
24:38they would with a young girl because that will get them killed the homosexual aspect has somehow been
24:43separated from their islamic thought and preaching because this is cultural not religious
24:54that's probably the dichotomy that they're dealing with and it's the lesser of two evils
25:04so for me i wanted to talk with this young man and understand everything that's going on but also
25:12maybe he would be able to find some trust in me
25:17so it's super valuable to get someone that close to your target even when you collect intelligence
25:22from assets they might be one step two steps away from the individual right when you have someone
25:30captured who is close to the person you're looking for or travels with them all the time or
25:34lives with them all the time they're going to have insights that you were never even aware of
25:41they're going to know things that help you target that you just weren't going to be able to collect
25:54so my approach was always please take the chains off i can't talk to somebody chained up
25:59like an animal i'm just not going to do it out of principle
26:05and i knew if i was able to connect with them as a human being then you could find something
26:11that
26:12you could talk about mdl did become to me a very personal thing my kid who i was away from
26:22this kid
26:23who he had co-opted and and abused the other child in the video i hated the fact that i
26:30was away from my
26:31son for a senior year of high school i hated the fact that my family was still in in east
26:36africa and
26:37i was you know in another part of the world without them so mdl did become personal when i first
26:43sat
26:44across from this young man my heart was broken because he was just a scared frightened child
26:51maybe i saw a little bit of my son in him and maybe i even saw a little bit of
26:56my daughter in him and
26:57how he did that really well because he he wore makeup he more presented as a female than a male
27:05but he was putting on this facade of i'm tough i've chosen this life you're the person who's wrong in
27:13this so i knew that this kid was scared because he was absolutely under the 100 control of mdl
27:25so being kind is a kind of a mechanism that you use but it was also authentic to me because
27:32that's who i am and that's who i was and so i believe we were able to disarm this young
27:39man
27:39by treating him with respect and eventually he shifted and changed a little bit we started
27:45talking to one another about history and poems and music and all this other stuff music was my
27:52first love i would ask about their favorite singer i always made sure that the music of that particular
27:59artist that he liked was playing in the background we started talking about art and turned out that
28:04this kid was a gifted artist i don't know what it's like for your child to be a bachabazi i
28:11don't know
28:11if that's a good thing or a shameful thing or or what it is so i don't know how long
28:17he had been
28:18living in that life but i knew that at the end of the day he didn't know anything different
28:23he knew he was in custody he knew he was probably in trouble but for us he wasn't in trouble
28:28we hopefully removed him from the trouble
28:38when the young boy was arrested and kind of irritated mdl into using more technology to
28:43finding out what's happening not having access to his bachabazi made him lose his mind
28:52he got sloppy and he became a little more active on the radio once it became apparent that we had
29:00someone that mattered very much to mullah dadela lang we knew that we had maybe that next piece of the
29:07puzzle to track his movements he started making phone calls he started making demands he wanted to
29:15know who was responsible for the raid and then radio communication was used to find his footprint
29:23and having that was significant because ultimately as an intelligence service what you're trying to
29:31project is what that person is going to do next it's quite ironic to think that a person so
29:40sophisticated like mullah dadela will fall into the trap but that's the miscalculation on mullah dadela's
29:51part while this was happening there were a number of very significant operations that were going on
29:58some of them included and involved mullah dadela lang an italian journalist with an afghan journalist and
30:07their interpreter came to conduct an interview with him and he had given them permission to come and
30:13conduct an interview with mullah dadela when they arrived they were arrested the doula released a
30:20video of them blindfolded on their knees with taliban pointing guns at them the Taliban frequently kidnapped
30:36people and they did it to get ransomed or to get prisoners out Mullah Sharma's Mansour who was the
30:44doula's brother had been captured by the afghan forces so the doula saw this kidnapping there was a way
30:51of a getting money from the Italians and be getting his brother out of jail the local hellman the
30:58facilitator was beheaded in front of the Italian journalist the Italian journalist was kept as a
31:07prisoner the Italian government paid a large sum of money to mullah dadela asking him not to kill the
31:17journalist and later mullah dadela exchanged the Italian journalist with five prisoners and one of
31:25them included his brother Mansour dadela who was then released so those five Taliban were handed over
31:34and now he had money and now he had the resolve and his resolve was focusing on how to get
31:42this young
31:43kid sprung from the local authorities it was certainly seen by the doula as a great victory but at some
31:52point
31:52during the negotiations there was a realization that there was a way to turn this on its head when the
32:01doula's brother is released someone decided we've put a tracking device on him and so the minute he's back
32:10with dadela they know where dadela is that was the clever bit really we literally followed him from city to
32:21city village to village until he made the mistake of moving in a part of Afghanistan where he felt
32:31comfortable he is from Helmand province where he was hiding and Helmand these are very loyal to each
32:38other so he used his local network his brothers his his family and his former combat friends to go into
32:46Helmand and and found a refuge for himself so it's not easy to catch someone who is moving around in
32:56their own
32:57backyard but also once he was ensconced within the southern provinces in Afghanistan that operational
33:05control is no longer mine it shifted to the international security forces that were there in terms of the
33:15Alliance in Afghanistan Helmand was controlled by the British the special operations force there is the SPS a
33:24special boat service it's the UK equivalent of seal team six they were tasked to go to Bram Char and
33:34take
33:34out the doula and get what intelligence they could but a lot of the planning of course was based on
33:43CIA
33:43intelligence and sharing of that intelligence with those partners the level of planning and the rehearsal
33:52that goes into this is crazy especially the tactical troops that are going to be deployed and conducting
33:59this raid they need to simulate a similar situation or an area they plan how many people should go how
34:07should they attack it how many enemies there what kind of weaponry they need it's very intense a lot of
34:13pressure on your mind there's a lot of risks involved landmines booby traps and there will be the enemy using
34:22women and children and they're using shelters that is full of civilians this is where leadership is tested to their
34:30bones
34:32the SBS we sent in a supercat six by six one went in to do reconnaissance saw where it was
34:43got a picture of what it was so they could plan the raid finally we were ready
34:55we knew where he was we knew the defenses of the area in which he was he felt like this
35:04is my ancestral home I'm probably safer here than anywhere that I've ever been
35:11May 2007 the British SPS went in three dozen guys in Chinook helicopters
35:21problem was that Chinook helicopter is a very noisy beast
35:25so Dadula and his men worked out what was going on so they were prepared
35:34and so you had what was essentially an old-fashioned infantry battle with the SBS and their Afghan colleagues attacking
35:42a building
35:46it took time but they got there
35:55the special forces shot a bunch of Taliban running away and one of the
36:00people was Malada Adela he was shot beside the canal he didn't die instantly he was injured
36:08he threw himself into the canal only to be drowned by water
36:14and later he was identified that this is MBL
36:18the hunt for Malada Adela Lang was over eight to ten months for me personally
36:28for me watching him in a video forcing a child to behead a grown man was something that I still
36:37can't get out of my mind's eye and so I celebrated that evening with a with a cigar on the
36:44balcony but I didn't let it linger
36:46it was a man who died and I always would remind my officers that even the people were killing have
36:55mothers and fathers and family and friends that love them so I don't think we should be cheering you know
37:02someone's death but cheering the fact that this guy can no longer cause additional deaths I don't know if I'm
37:09proud of that but I did celebrate and I never celebrated another another death
37:29the thing is a lot of these terrorists get reported as killed numerous times and they don't actually die right
37:36or people don't believe they die if you're the public and you're not really believing that they killed MDL the
37:43only way to prove it is you can imagine that the
37:45is through the media of it his body was brought back into Kandahar the governor of Kandahar at the time
37:54decided to display his body for public and for the media and to take pictures and see it this is
38:00not a typical situation in Afghanistan usually it's not good to display bodies
38:06according to our traditions according to our traditions but because of the significance of who he was and how brutal
38:13of a man he was it was important for people to know and also to learn that bad people die
38:19in a terrible way and Mullah Dadella is is is really dead
38:24we needed the Taliban to know definitively that one of their top commanders has now been eliminated
38:39of course the Taliban is used to losing its leaders but Dadella was he was a legend
38:47and a very successful leader of the Taliban
38:53it was a huge huge impact
38:55on the Taliban at the time on the morale
38:58on the other top leaders starting to turn against each other that's how important he was
39:05all he wanted was his prized boy back and ultimately his ego his desire to get this child back in
39:12his custody
39:13I believe led to his demise
39:16our foreign intelligence partners
39:20at this point they thought that this kid is 15 16 years old let's return him to his family
39:26my argument was you realize this is the same family that sold him into this life so how about we
39:34not return him to his family
39:36as a father of a kid along the same age of this young man there was no way that I
39:42was going to hand over this child back to his abusers
39:50I took every measure that I could within the CIA to make sure that this kid didn't have to return
39:56to this life
39:58I knew that this kid was a gifted artist
40:00if you've seen the trucks in the Pakistan Afghanistan area they're all brightly colored with words and symbols
40:08we were able to find someone within that community where you can teach this kid a trade so he wouldn't
40:16have to go back to selling his body for you know feeding his family
40:21and again this was me as a dad as a humanitarian as someone who cared about this this particular child
40:31saving that boy from MDL CIA wouldn't put that on my list of achievements of success
40:38but as a human being as a father that was probably the the one operation that I felt was the
40:44most significant
40:47I knew at the end of the day MDL was either going to be captured or killed that's the goal
40:53that's the intent
40:54but being faced with it and being a part of it on the day to day on the ground
40:59I know that I was getting to the point where I needed to not see the hatred and killing and
41:07damage that was that was being inflicted
41:10and so I went back to my family went back and you know re-engaged and just kind of decompressed
41:16as a family
41:18there's nothing that I did at CIA that I would do differently
41:22I loved everything about it the ride in between the 1990 and 2018 took me to West Africa and North
41:29Africa and Europe
41:31the Pakistan Afghanistan theater it was a joy for me to allow my children to kind of grew up in
41:39different cultures
41:39and learn different languages my son graduated high school in Uganda my daughter graduated high school in Switzerland
41:47they're children of the world and if I did anything right on this planet I think having my kids grow
41:54up recognizing that as great as the United States is
41:57there are a lot of great countries in the world and I needed them to be exposed to those
42:11I'm proud of my record I'm proud of the institution
42:15I fought a lot of fights but I fought them because it was the right thing to do
42:20I would always make sure that people understood that there was life at the other end of every decision and
42:28every discussion that we had
42:29the CIA has some really dedicated officers who care about human life who has a lot of integrity
42:37who actually does a lot of good things around the world
42:41the really funny thing is is when someone finds out your CIA they're always surprised right
42:46really the CIA is just like normal people who can kind of go to any country and talk to any
42:51person and like form a relationship
42:53like that's the key right we're like the best in the world at getting to know you
43:04CIA makes sure that our world is safer because we have people who are out in the field
43:09speaking the languages talking to the people at the ground roots level
43:14if we can fight these battles abroad then they're not brought to our homeland
43:19at the end of the day that is why we do what we do
43:24there's a large part that you're never going to know or see
43:27because we're protecting something
43:29we're protecting our advanced technology
43:33we're protecting this well-placed source
43:35we're protecting you
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