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Hot Ones - Season 29 - Episode 10: Hilary Duff Tests Her Luck While Eating Spicy Wings
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00:00What's happening to me right now? It's like a hellhole.
00:14Hey, what's going on everybody? For First We Feast, I'm Sean Evans and you're watching Hot Ones.
00:18It's the show with hot questions and even hotter wings. And today we're joined by Hilary Duff.
00:22She's a singer, songwriter, and actress who's been a cultural staple for decades,
00:25and she's back with her newly released acclaimed album,
00:28Luck or Something, and gearing up for her first world tour in 18 years. Be on the lookout for
00:32the Lucky Me Tour coming to a city near you, including Madison Square Garden this summer.
00:36Hilary Duff, welcome to the show. I'm so excited to be here.
00:40How are you around hot sauce before we get started? I'm good around hot sauce. I don't recognize any of
00:45these. Probably they're not a kitchen staple for me, but I do have at least 10 hot sauces in my
00:53refrigerator at all times. So we have a good foundational, yeah, we have a good base to
00:58build on. Are you ready to get started? Yeah, but I'm not trying to be too cocky. I'm terrified for
01:02what's about to happen. Also just this aroma of like spice is, it's strong right now.
01:31So the viewer knows, like, it's also in the air. Cheers. Cheers.
01:41Mmm. Very good. A little sweetness.
01:50Okay. Nothing too serious.
01:53So I'd imagine that it's kind of a trippy experience to create a set list for a new tour featuring
01:58songs
01:59that you wrote more than two decades ago. Has there been a funniest or most sentimental moment
02:03in rediscovering the bops of your past? Like I'd imagine in some ways it's like reading an old diary.
02:10Well, we don't have to pretend that you haven't seen embarrassing things about me on the internet.
02:14So, you know, there are certain songs that the fans are like really fighting to be heard.
02:23And some of those include The Girl Can Rock, The Math,
02:32some real deep cuts that I don't know if I can embody anymore.
02:37But I might try. But darn it, you'll try. I am. Honestly, I've had so much fun going back into
02:44my catalog and being like, I want to do that one. I want to do that one. I can't ever
02:47do that one.
02:48And I don't want to say never because, you know, anything goes and I get to drive the ship.
02:54I took two bites, my friend. You know what? Then I got to join you.
02:57I think you do. I got to stay on the pace. Are we going in for number two?
03:02If you're ready. I am. So up next is a pickled garlic sriracha.
03:06Give me anything pickle. Whoa, it's your favorite. Love a pickle. All kinds.
03:19I love that. Again, there's a sweetness. Pickley enough for you?
03:24I could use a little more pickle. All right. We're taking the notes.
03:29Did you take two bites? Both sides. All right. I'm dancing with you, Hillary.
03:34Okay. All right. I like that. That's good. Good flavor. Your eyes are getting a little glassy.
03:40Oh, I like this. I like this part. I like this part. All right. I'm just going to try to
03:46keep up
03:46with you over here. Okay. But I'll make it if you can. Just tell me if I have anything on
03:50my face.
03:50Okay. I will. I got you. And same for me. Okay. Is there a song of yours that bangs
03:55hardest in a live show setting? Like, is there one that you can always depend on,
03:59like a comedian who keeps a joke in their back pocket for when they need to turn the room?
04:03Luckily, I have a few. Not to brag.
04:09I'm going to say, wake up always slaps. And then I get to lean on what dreams are made of,
04:15which takes everybody there. It's nice to have that. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I'm a little congested
04:21right now. So I'm looking forward to this being like an opener, which I know is coming for me.
04:26Oh, okay. I'm a little worried about the snot situation. I'm starting to run, but it's not,
04:30my mouth's great. You're looking good. You know, I'm on it. All right. If there's some sauce,
04:35if there's something in the teeth, I'll let you know. Thanks. But so far, I'm good. You're good. You're
04:41going to move on to sauce number three, which is a white hot mustard sauce. Yeah.
04:53I'm getting some heat. I'm not going to lick my fingers on that one.
04:56Have you observed anything interesting about the day-to-day life of chickens tending to a
05:01coop in your backyard? Like, how would you describe their world as an outsider looking in?
05:06They are simple creatures. It's surprising to me how many people don't know that if you don't have
05:16a rooster, you still get eggs. I didn't know that. Sean. What? How does that work?
05:25Okay. The eggs aren't fertilized if the rooster is not there, but the chicken lays an egg almost every
05:30day. So we don't have a rooster. It's actually illegal where I live to have a rooster because
05:36of the whole cock-a-doodle-doo thing. The thing that's cool is watching them establish their pecking
05:41order. They can be quite mean until they figure that part out, and then they just exist together.
05:46I love having chickens. I feel more bad about eating chickens. Oh, right. Like,
05:52maybe I should switch the subject real quick. It's definitely getting spicier.
06:03So take another bite. Yeah. Let's party. That's what I'm talking about.
06:11It's good. It's not my typical flavor profile, but it's good.
06:16I don't love Mezcal. Do you like Mezcal? Yeah, and this is a smoky sauce. I get,
06:21yeah, I get that connection. I'm getting like a Mezcal vibe, and
06:24unless it's like a perfectly balanced Mezcal cocktail. It's like a Band-Aid going on.
06:31You know, like that rubbery smell? Now I'm tasting a Band-Aid. Yeah, okay.
06:36Thanks for that. Well, I'm tasting a lot of spice cookies, so. That's true. I'll meet you halfway.
06:41Yeah. So forgive me for not knowing, but I was surprised to learn that you're actually a New
06:45York Times bestselling author having published a supernatural trilogy for young adults. Yeah.
06:51I'm curious what your bookshelf looked like when you were the age of your target reader. Like,
06:55were there authors or- Twilight. Twilight. Twilight was the absolute inspiration.
07:06What's happening? It was like Lizzie McGuire for people for me. Like, you were just like at that
07:13point in your life, and you were like, yes. Somebody's speaking exactly to me, directly to me. Yeah.
07:19As an actress, when you create a series like that, is the idea of adapting it into a TV or
07:25movie
07:25exciting? Or would that puncture the fantasy or your intent in some way? I think that is always,
07:31at least for me, because I am an actress and like mostly a TV actress, like my mind goes TV
07:37show.
07:39And not like, no, I definitely would probably love to still produce a show like that. I don't know if
07:45I
07:45would be in it, but there's just not enough time right now for me. You're busy. Yeah. You're busy.
07:54And you're halfway through the Hot Ones Gauntlet. The accolades keep piling up over here.
07:59My lips are burning. Mine too. Okay. Same wavelength, same page. Okay.
08:04This next one is called Tropical Amarillo, if you're ready. I feel like the font of this
08:10is trying to downplay the experience. Mmm, it's undermining the heat, right. It's trying to go
08:16tropical, like, you know, we're on the beach. It's just a fun day on the beach. Yeah.
08:20Yeah. It's probably a dirty, rotten lie. Okay. Here we go.
08:28Okay. I don't like getting a weird bite of chicken. It really ruins things for me.
08:36Okay. I'm going to try again. It's hot. Yeah.
08:42Unfortunately, that's how the show's format. Are you like hoping for some water now or?
08:46If you are. I don't know if you're baiting me or not. All right.
08:51But I'm ready whenever you're ready. So I've heard you say that when Lizzie McGuire got a locker
08:56on the show that you felt like you finally got a locker. Yeah.
08:59Were there any other kind of normal kid milestones that you experienced vicariously through your character?
09:05Bra shopping. Bra shopping.
09:12Okay. It's hot. It's hot.
09:18I think a lot of the themes of Lizzie, of the shows, of the episodes were actually happening in my
09:25life as well.
09:26Social dynamics and stuff within my friend groups outside of work.
09:34So I'm trying to think of one in particular while this heat is permeating in my mouth.
09:42It's so nice to hear people's experience with the show or how it helped them or formed them,
09:48whether it be her style or not quite fitting in anywhere.
09:53And I also kind of resonate with that. I feel like a very big dork dressed in a cool girl's
10:01outfit a lot of the time.
10:07I'm going to try to go really teeth here.
10:09Okay, me too then.
10:09Okay.
10:12I screwed up on the first one.
10:15Okay, I'm cutting a big bite. All right.
10:19This is homegrown hell?
10:20Mm-hmm.
10:22The literal eyes are like popping out of the dragon's head or whatever.
10:25Staring right at you.
10:26Yeah.
10:29Did you take another bite?
10:31I did.
10:32You did?
10:33I did.
10:36The rabbit's got the gun now, yeah.
10:43What's it been like being like a pop star time traveler and going from the times of like
10:48TRL and record store visits to then like pop crave headlines and TikTok trends.
10:55Like, have you had any kind of like pop star culture shock if you're jumping back in the pool?
11:01Yeah.
11:02Like the world of social media is a wild like layer to add on top of entering the workspace again.
11:12The fact that I have many, many memories of being at TRL is a part of my personality.
11:19There would be the...
11:22There would be the same song on the TRL charts for like weeks after weeks after weeks after weeks.
11:28And can you imagine kids dealing with that kind of length in the standing?
11:33Right, right, right.
11:35They'd be like, turn it over.
11:36Like, more, more, faster, more, less of like the same.
11:40Like, you know, now it's just this.
11:42So, like, there's definitely like a part of me that's just a little slowed down and like likes living in
11:49that part of my past and being old.
11:51Um, but also like loving a TikTok trend.
11:54You've been busy on it.
11:56I know, I know.
11:58Shout out, Aaron.
11:59Where are you?
11:59Actually, in the building, probably phone out, you know?
12:02Look at everyone now.
12:02My hair and makeup also will.
12:05They're dear friends of mine.
12:06And they'll be like, this is the trend we're doing today.
12:07And I'm like, okay, I'll do anything.
12:09I'm still a child actor inside.
12:12Wanting to please.
12:18I'm going.
12:19I'm going too.
12:22I got a big bite.
12:23Yeah, I thought that.
12:26Textbook.
12:27I got a big bite.
12:29Kind of hitting me.
12:30It is?
12:31At this point.
12:32Your eyes are glassy.
12:34They are glassy.
12:37Hey, you want to go in for some water?
12:39If you, if you do.
12:40Some wah-wah?
12:41If you do.
12:41Okay.
12:42Let's go.
12:45Chick-cha.
12:52I refuse.
12:53I'm kidding.
12:54Don't do it.
12:55But does it make it worse?
12:57Is it spreading it?
12:59No, they say that.
13:01But psychologically, I always think like the ice water helps, but I think it's all psychological.
13:06This one's abusive.
13:07Yeah.
13:08You might actually want to take a sip.
13:10Okay.
13:12So I've heard you say that you like your steak very rare to the point that friends won't even share
13:17with you when you're having one.
13:18Can you give us the do's and don'ts, the Hilary Duff do's and don'ts of making the perfect steak at
13:24home?
13:24Mm-hmm.
13:27So, my mom, I grew up with my mom and dad saying they liked their steak to where a good
13:33vet could get it back on its feet.
13:35Isn't that horrifying?
13:36Yeah.
13:39I grew, okay, this is hot.
13:41Yeah.
13:41Hot, okay.
13:42Yeah.
13:44Um, the, huh?
13:47The perfect steak.
13:49The perfect steak.
13:51And then be careful around your eyes.
13:52Yeah, yeah.
13:53I just had that thought because I was about to wipe.
13:55I saw it, I saw it, I anticipated.
14:00I'm going to double tissue wipe my finger, get a little.
14:04Okay, um, then I like to salt it on both sides.
14:09Is this what you asked me?
14:11My perfect steak.
14:12Yeah.
14:12Got it, okay.
14:15I want my cast iron pan really hot and I put beef tallow.
14:20It's like a butter kind of situation.
14:23The wheels are falling off and I am just running.
14:29Um, and I wait till my pan is smoking and I season my steak and then I weight it with
14:36a weight.
14:38And I do that for like four minutes on each side, take it off, let it rest, slice it.
14:43Big pinch of salt on top and we're, we're eating steak.
14:52This is going to be the one that takes me down, right?
14:55No, nothing's taking you down.
14:57Not today, Hillary, though.
14:58That's right.
15:04I'm upset, it just touched my lip.
15:06Okay.
15:10Is my like, I have like a slight delay, but it is about to kick my ass.
15:17You can barely talk.
15:18Yeah, you can feel it.
15:18Yeah.
15:21Oh my God.
15:22Yeah.
15:26You got the whole team laughing over here, by the way.
15:29Okay, what's happening to me right now?
15:33It's like a whole hell hole.
15:35Yeah.
15:36My throat.
15:38Oh my God.
15:39Yeah.
15:39Okay.
15:40Like you kind of taste the smoke with that mezcal-y one.
15:43That's disgusting.
15:45And then this one, it just kind of turns you to smoke, right?
15:48Holy shit.
15:50Okay.
15:51So, while you battled the bomb-
15:53I think I need milk.
15:53Yeah, yeah, yeah.
15:56You know I'm getting on a flight after this.
15:59I'm so sorry about that.
16:01I always have to apologize from this side of the table.
16:04So, while you battled the bomb, I was hoping that you'd be open to talking about
16:09the different eras as defined by Hilary Duff hairstyles.
16:13I don't even know what you're saying right now.
16:13I know, but it's all right.
16:14Because this one has a visual aid.
16:16We'll pull a picture up over here on the monitor.
16:19All right.
16:20What kind of turning point did the brunette era represent to you?
16:24She was trying new things.
16:26She was leaving her old self behind.
16:33And let's talk about the bouffant.
16:36Yeah.
16:37The bouffant probably had some device in there.
16:41It was something called a bump it and you stuck it in there and then it stayed.
16:45Also, why am I wearing Raggedy Ann's dress?
16:47John, I don't know what's happening to my brain.
16:49I know, there's a lot going on.
16:51All right.
16:51But we're almost through this one.
16:53Can you talk me through the origin story of the teal hair?
16:59She was probably in crisis, this girl.
17:00I'm not sure.
17:04One, do you know how hard this hair color is to keep up?
17:08Believe it or not, I have no idea.
17:11You have not a clue.
17:12I do not understand the plight at all.
17:14It's so much work to keep a bright, nice color like that.
17:20You have to bleach your hair, first of all.
17:22Terrible for your hair.
17:24And then you have to constantly put color in your conditioner and keep up with that.
17:31Masks constantly.
17:32Like, annoying.
17:34Why did I need to do that?
17:35Who was she trying to be?
17:36I don't know.
17:37I think I was dealing with a breakup.
17:40But then, I had a baby during COVID like everybody else.
17:44I dyed my own hair at home almost that color.
17:47Gave birth with blue hair.
17:48What?
17:49Why?
17:50Blue hair.
17:51I had a girl.
17:51You know, you can never connect the dots.
17:54I know.
17:54Looking forward, only looking back.
17:56Some things you just look back and you're like, she needed to do this.
17:59How are we feeling?
18:01Horrible.
18:02But it does seem like-
18:03I like you a lot.
18:04You do?
18:04Yeah, but-
18:06The wings.
18:07I'm tired of these wings.
18:12Why do I have a delayed response?
18:14Like, it's not hitting me yet.
18:17Here's the thing.
18:18Yeah.
18:18I can have another bite of this one.
18:19There we go, then I will too.
18:24I didn't do it.
18:25I didn't feel the heat.
18:26I don't want the full experience.
18:28Oh, you're living it.
18:30Can you give us one highlight and one low light of living in the Oakwood apartments?
18:34It's kind of amazing how many people I've interviewed on this show who've once held a lease there.
18:39Yeah.
18:44Sorry for the sound effects.
18:58The extra bite was ballsy.
19:01Once I helped, no doubt, unload their gear.
19:06Outside of the Oakwood apartments?
19:07Yeah.
19:08And I was like, that's no doubt.
19:11But really weird things would happen there.
19:14The highlight was that I got to be really free.
19:16Like, I'm a kid from Texas.
19:18So, like, I lived outdoors basically my whole life.
19:22And the Oakwood apartments, not that there's not probably threats there, but it's like this big gated complex.
19:29And my friends and I would, like, build forts and have, like, hideouts.
19:33And we had a pager.
19:35Before I had my cell phone, we had a pager.
19:36And my mom would just be like, dinner's ready, come home.
19:38Didn't you have, like, a scooter gang you were running?
19:40And we had a scooter gang, okay?
19:43But there's, like, a part of my childhood that, like, I don't think exists anymore for our kids.
19:51Like, toilet papering a house?
19:53Like, I don't, I don't think those things happen.
19:56The bygone days.
19:57I know, I know.
19:58All right, Hilary Duff.
20:00We're here.
20:02You know I'm putting it on.
20:03You know.
20:04You know I'm putting it on.
20:11Thermageddon.
20:12Okay.
20:12You ready?
20:13Mm-hmm.
20:15Dip, flip, and rip.
20:18Dip, flip, and rip.
20:20Let's go.
20:26And with that, Hilary Duff, the wings of death are behind us.
20:31We did it.
20:31I did it.
20:32You did it.
20:36And to close things out, you know you're a self-described old soul.
20:39I've heard you refer to yourself as a granny.
20:41And to make that point, I was hoping that maybe you could show me how to hold a crochet needle.
20:52Of course I can.
20:53I have a little bit here on this side.
20:55Here you go.
20:56I don't even know.
20:57Do you need more than this?
20:59No.
20:59Is that all you need?
21:00Mm-hmm.
21:01And then I'll go on this side.
21:03And then I'm wondering, do you have any, like, foundational crochet advice for crochet beginners
21:08like myself?
21:11No.
21:16That one's bad.
21:17Yeah, yeah.
21:18But it's all over.
21:19Uh-huh.
21:25Okay, so I'm self-taught.
21:27This is not the way you want to have your yarn.
21:39I'm getting everything to do here.
21:41You've got to make a slipknot.
21:42You know how to do that?
21:44I can do it for you.
21:45You want mine?
21:46Yeah, yeah, yeah.
21:47You can just talk me through it.
21:49I'm going to come over here and get it started for you.
21:54Oh, okay.
21:56I think you took Wickerbikes the B.
21:59Nobody's keeping score.
22:00Yeah.
22:00All right?
22:01We're both at the top.
22:04Okay.
22:05Slipknot.
22:07This is...
22:09You're going to hold your working yarn over here, okay?
22:12This is my working yarn.
22:13Ah!
22:14Okay.
22:15The lips are destroyed.
22:20Hold your...
22:22You could drop that down to the ground.
22:25Are you looking like this?
22:27I'm looking like this.
22:29Your working yarn's the one that's attached to the ball of yarn still.
22:34Uh-huh.
22:36And this is going to be in your hand so you don't get confused.
22:45This is like when you're in New York in the summer and the humidity and the heat takes over and
22:51you
22:51finally get to your apartment.
22:53Yeah.
22:53And the AC is on and you're just like you made me start crying.
22:56Yeah.
22:57It's been such a hard day in the world.
22:59Mm-hmm.
23:03This is called casting on.
23:05Basically, you have to...
23:08You're never going to get this right now, Sean.
23:10Yeah.
23:10It's just not going to happen for you.
23:11I'm buddy.
23:12It's not.
23:13It's not going to happen.
23:15Another time.
23:16Okay, but you know what?
23:17Maybe someday if we're like sitting on a plane next to each other, I can teach you how to do
23:20this.
23:20It's all good.
23:21Okay, okay.
23:22Because I don't think I can really handle it right now either.
23:24I just want to go home.
23:25But I'm going to get to the point of this.
23:27And you know what?
23:28When you come back, I'm going to have a hat.
23:30I'm going to have a hot sauce koozie already made for you.
23:33All right, Hilary Duff.
23:34But now at this point, there's nothing left to do but roll out the red carpet for you.
23:37This camera, this camera, this camera.
23:39Let the people know what you have going on in your life.
23:42The only thing that's happening right now is the sensations of the attack.
23:49It was a brutal attack.
23:50I have a world tour that I'm going on for the first time in 20 years and a new album
23:59that
23:59I just put out and it's called Luck or something and you can stream it anywhere or you could buy
24:05whatever you want.
24:06I don't know.
24:11Um, I think that's all I have going on.
24:18That one comes for you.
24:22Super fun.
24:23This was an absolute honor.
24:25You got to be proud of yourself.
24:26You made it through.
24:28Thank you so much.
24:29You did great.
24:30You did great.
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