00:00Mr. Efting, how long have you been sexually attracted to underage minor females?
00:06Objection, harassing, argumentative.
00:09Are you kidding?
00:10Is your money dirty money?
00:12If you live...
00:13I just asked a question. Is your money dirty money?
00:15No, it's not.
00:17So, in fact...
00:18Why is it not dirty money?
00:20Because I earned it.
00:22As perpetrating one of the largest frauds in South Florida's history
00:26by crafting malicious cases of a sexual nature against people like me and others?
00:32I think if you told him...
00:33If I told him the devil...
00:34100%.
00:35The devil himself said, I'm going to exchange some dollars for your child's life.
00:41Do you think you're the devil himself?
00:44No, but I do have a good mirror.
00:48Mr. Efting, how long have you been sexually attracted to underage minor females?
00:55Objection, harassing, argumentative.
00:57Are you kidding?
01:02No, I mean, I don't feel like I'm divulging any secrets here, right?
01:08Move to strike.
01:09No, that's the question...
01:11I'd like to answer that question as well.
01:12I'll get all your other questions today.
01:14However, I have to follow my attorney's advice.
01:17They have told me that I must invoke my 5th, 6th, and 14th Amendment right
01:23to not answer those questions today
01:26or any questions relevant to this lawsuit.
01:29What was the name of any of the underage minors
01:34that were the subject of the criminal charges to which you pled guilty?
01:46I don't know.
01:49So tell me about those charges.
01:55What were the allegations of those charges for him?
02:03Solicitation of prostitution.
02:05Okay.
02:06Not underage prostitution.
02:08Prostitution.
02:09Were the victims or the prostitutes, as you would say,
02:14were they minors?
02:16For him.
02:18I pled guilty to solicitation of prostitution.
02:22Okay, so tell me what those cases were about.
02:24What happened?
02:27I can't tell you any more than that.
02:29You don't know what you pled guilty to?
02:31I just told you.
02:32Objective form.
02:33That's asked and answered.
02:36Do you know what you pled guilty to?
02:37The facts.
02:38Solicitation of prostitution.
02:40I understand that's the charge.
02:41What were the underlying facts?
02:43Sorry.
02:43What did you do?
02:44Did you pull up in a car, talk to the person?
02:46Did they come over to your house?
02:47How did you get them?
02:48Those kind of things.
02:49Tell the jury.
02:50What were the underlying facts about the charge that you pled guilty to?
02:54Form.
02:55Moved to strike.
02:55I don't know.
02:57You don't know what you pled guilty to?
02:59I pled guilty to the solicitation of prostitution.
03:02Not underage prostitution, but prostitution.
03:05And just so the jury understands,
03:08these three females that were the subject of the guilty pleas in state court
03:14were procured by your method of having underage minor females locate other underage minor females
03:23and bring them to your house.
03:25Isn't that correct?
03:26Objection.
03:27Argumentative.
03:27Compound.
03:28Harassing.
03:29Assumes facts.
03:30Not in evidence.
03:30And I moved to strike.
03:32I have to repeat the question.
03:38Are all people that were, at the time you engaged in sexual activity with them,
03:46were underage and were brought by other underage minor females?
03:49Is that true?
03:50Same objections incorporated.
03:56As well as the motion to strike.
04:03I don't understand.
04:04I'm sorry.
04:05I don't even understand the question.
04:07Isn't it true that you used underage minor females to bring other underage minor females
04:11to your house for sex?
04:14Ask and answer.
04:18Way earlier on.
04:20He doesn't understand the question, so I'm going through the progression.
04:23Not a problem.
04:24But it is ask and answer.
04:27As your firm, Mr. Edwards and Mr. Jaffe have been described by the U.S. Attorney
04:32as perpetrating one of the largest frauds in South Florida's history
04:36by crafting malicious cases of a sexual nature against people like me and others
04:42in order to fleece using bogus schemes, in the U.S. Attorney's words,
04:47investment schemes.
04:49Unfortunately, though, I'd like to answer every one of your questions, if I'm able.
04:53My attorneys advise me I must assert my Sixth Amendment,
04:56Fourteenth Amendment, and Fifth Amendment rights under the U.S. Constitution.
05:01Therefore, at the moment, I cannot answer that question.
05:03Is your money dirty money?
05:05If you live it.
05:06I just asked a question.
05:07Is your money dirty money?
05:08No, it's not.
05:10So, in fact—
05:11Why is it not dirty money?
05:13Because I earned it.
05:15But I can tell you that with the money I gave to help try to eradicate polio
05:21in Pakistan and India,
05:24instead of asking me whether that money should be given to these children for vaccines,
05:30I think you might want to ask their mothers.
05:33I think if you told them—
05:34I told them the devil—
05:36A hundred percent.
05:36The devil himself said,
05:38I'm going to exchange some dollars for your child's life.
05:42Do you think you're the devil himself?
05:45No, but I do have a good mirror.
05:48What's the other argument?
05:49Let me give you that.
05:50I know, in my case—
05:52Is your money dirty money?
05:54If you live it.
05:55I just ask a question.
05:56Is your money dirty money?
05:57No, it's not.
05:58So, in fact—
06:00Why is it not dirty money?
06:01Because I earned it.
06:03My heart—
06:04But you earned it—
06:06I earned it legally.
06:07We went back to this before.
06:08You earned it advising the worst people in the world, right,
06:14that do enormous bad things and just to make more money.
06:21So, instead of asking me the question, should you take the money?
06:24Because I think it's a legitimate question.
06:26You think it's a legitimate question?
06:27Yes, no question.
06:28Because I think about—
06:30I think you have to—
06:32Ethics is always a complicated subject,
06:33but I can tell you that with the money I gave
06:36to help try to eradicate polio in Pakistan and India,
06:42instead of asking me whether that money should be given to these children for vaccines,
06:49I think you might want to ask their mothers who received the vaccine
06:53who know their child now won't get polio,
06:56and ask them if Epstein should have helped these people with their money.
07:02If we walked in—
07:03Is that a fair question?
07:05You're a mathematician.
07:06We walked into that clinic where they're giving that money out to these people
07:10that are in the most dire straits of poverty and sickness,
07:14and told them that the money was coming from a—what are you, class three sexual predator?
07:19Tier one.
07:20Was tier one the highest and worst?
07:22No, I'm the lowest.
07:24You're the lowest.
07:25Tier one, you're the lowest, but a criminal.
07:28Yes.
07:29That the money came from them.
07:30What percentage of people do you estimate—
07:32I understand you don't like probabilities—
07:34do you estimate, would say,
07:35I don't care, I want the money for my children?
07:38I would say everyone said, I want the money for my children.
07:40Did they know where the money came from?
07:42I think if you told them—
07:43100%.
07:44If I told them the devil—
07:45100%.
07:45The devil himself said,
07:48I'm going to exchange some dollars for your child's life.
07:51Do you think you're the devil himself?
07:54No, but I do have a good mirror.
07:57It's a serious question.
07:59I'm sorry.
07:59Do you think you're the devil himself?
08:01I don't know.
08:02Why would you say that?
08:03Because you have all the attributes.
08:05You're incredibly smart.
08:06You remember, the devil is somebody who knows—
08:07The devil's brilliant.
08:09You read Milton's Paradise Lost.
08:12No, the devil scares me.
08:14Satan is the—
08:16He is at the number one or two archangel.
08:22And the reason he goes to hell and leads the rebellion
08:27is because he can't be the top guy.
08:29And his thing is, I'd rather reign in hell than serve in heaven.
08:33I saw that in a movie once called American Dharma.
08:36I don't remember who said it.
08:38Okay?
08:39We have to go.
08:40Okay, good.
08:41That was good.
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