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Jimmy Kimmel Live - Season 24 - Episode 108: Anthony Anderson, Jon Lovett
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00:00From Hollywood, it's Jimmy Kimmel Live!
00:04Tonight, Anthony Anderson and John Lovett with the Kletos!
00:11And now, Jimmy Kimmel!
00:15Jimmy Kimmel Live!
00:17Jimmy Kimmel Live!
00:33First time, I appreciate that.
00:38Thank you, thank you for watching and thank you for joining us.
00:44It's very nice.
00:51You know how sometimes you wake up in the morning
00:56and the First Lady puts out a statement demanding you be fired from your job?
01:02We've all been there, right?
01:04You've been there, right, Guillermo?
01:06Yeah, sure.
01:08What a day.
01:09As you know, they had to cancel the White House Correspondents' Dinner
01:12in Washington on Saturday night after a man with multiple guns and knives crashed the party
01:19and may have shot a Secret Service officer.
01:23Fortunately, the guy was wearing a bulletproof vest and is okay.
01:26They're not sure exactly what happened, but they got the guy.
01:29He was charged today.
01:30No one was hurt, thank goodness.
01:31A lot of people were shaken up on a night that is supposed to be lighthearted.
01:36The White House Correspondents' Dinner, if you don't know,
01:37it used to be an annual event before Trump showed up.
01:41But every year they'd have a comedian roast the room.
01:43The president, the vice president, members of the press, everybody got roast.
01:46I did it once, I hosted it, it was a lot of fun.
01:48But this year, they said, no comedian, we're bringing in a mentalist instead.
01:52So on Thursday, three days before the event, in order to keep that cherished tradition alive,
01:59I did my own version of the Correspondents' Dinner on my show.
02:03I put on a tuxedo, we pretended we had an audience of luminaries,
02:08we used old footage of the Trumps, of Pete Hegseth, J.D. Vance, Kid Rock, Vanilla Ice,
02:14all the members of his cabinet, and we made it seem like they were all together in a room.
02:19We had a little roast. Again, this was Thursday, and there was no big reaction to it
02:23until this morning when I greeted the day facing yet another Twitter vomit storm.
02:29And a call to fire me from our first lady, Melania Trump, saying I should be fired
02:36because of a joke I made, again, five nights ago.
02:39It was a pretend roast. I said, our first lady Melania's here, look at her so beautiful.
02:44Mrs. Trump, you'll have a glow like an expectant widow, which...
02:50obviously was a joke about their age difference and the look of joy we see on her face every time
02:57they're together.
02:58It was a very light roast joke about the fact that he's almost 80 and she's younger than I am.
03:03It was not, by any stretch of the definition, a call to assassination, and they know that.
03:09I've been very vocal for many years speaking out against gun violence in particular,
03:13but I understand that the first lady had a stressful experience over the weekend,
03:17and probably every weekend is pretty stressful in that house.
03:21And also, I agree that hateful and violent rhetoric is something we should reject.
03:26I do, and I think a great place to start, to dial that back, would be to have a conversation
03:31with your husband about it.
03:32Because, by the way, I also should point out, Donald Trump isn't allowed to say whatever he wants to say,
03:43as are you, as am I, as are all of us.
03:46Because under the First Amendment, we have, as Americans, a right to free speech.
03:50But with that said, I am sorry that you and the president and everyone in that room on Saturday went
03:58through that.
03:59I really am. Just because no one got killed doesn't mean it wasn't traumatic and scary.
04:02And we should come together and be best. We really should.
04:06But if you want us to believe that a joke I made three days before this dinner had any effect
04:11on anything that happened,
04:13well, then maybe someone should look into this psychic lady, too.
04:16This speech tonight will be classic Donald J. Trump.
04:21It'll be funny. It'll be entertaining. There will be some shots fired tonight in the room.
04:28You know what?
04:31You know who's going to be furious when she hears that?
04:35White House Press Secretary Carolyn Levitt, who will be furious.
04:39This is like deja vu for me today, with all the news channels talking about this.
04:42Brian Stelter of CNN noted incorrectly, I think, that no one from the White House was specifically calling for my
04:50head.
04:50This is this morning. I guess the first lady doesn't count.
04:53But whatever the case, the president cleared that up pretty quickly.
04:56The administration's calling out Kimball, trying to pressure ABC.
04:59But they're being careful, I think, not to explicitly demand that ABC punish him.
05:05Despite their rhetoric that sometimes becomes very incendiary from the White House,
05:08and yes, is also incendiary from the left, these stress tests have been passed,
05:13and we have not seen demands for silencing be followed through by government censorship.
05:20Well, Brent, just as we were speaking, the president actually put out a note demanding that Jimmy Kimball be fired
05:26by ABC.
05:28Well, in that case, forget everything I just said.
05:33All right. You know, but I have to say, this really is a shame, because there was a time not
05:42so long ago, back in 2010,
05:44when, believe it or not, we sent our man Yahya to a Samsung promotional event in New York,
05:49where we learned that Donald Trump was a very big fan of mine.
05:53Hi, Mr. Trump. How are you, sir? What are you doing here?
05:56Well, I'm here to support Samsung and their 3D plasma television.
06:00But I'm also here to support Jimmy, because I love Jimmy.
06:04You want to come here? Hi, how are you? Nice to meet you. Yahya, nice to meet you.
06:09You want to be on my show?
06:10Well, you know what? I happen to love Jimmy. Let's do it. Come on.
06:14Well, no, no, no. Sadly, his love for me went the way of the Samsung 3D plasma television.
06:22Anyway, what happened on Saturday at an event supporting the First Amendment, by the way.
06:28It was so crazy to watch. After the gunman was captured, there were so many well-known people in a
06:34room together,
06:35and there were cameras on everyone at all times. All the journalists, everybody grabbed their phones,
06:40immediately went into reporter mode. It was like a reverse Clark Kent. Like, he goes...
06:44But the dinner was filmed by more different iPhones from more different angles than the Torah portion of a bar
06:51mitzvah.
06:51This is video of the Secret Service moving Stephen Miller and his wife out of the room,
06:56followed by RFK Jr. getting whisked away while his wife, Cheryl Hines, is in the proverbial dust.
07:06That's right. He cut out of there like he saw a raccoon penis on the side of the road.
07:13But not everyone was in panic mode. While most of the attendees were taking cover,
07:18one guy who turns out to be Wolf Blitzer's agent. Watch him in the bottom left corner of your screen.
07:23And the journalists all in the House seated very quietly watching this.
07:29And remember who is in the room. Secretary Pete Hegseth is in that room.
07:33You've got Scott Besant in that room. You have Tulsi Gabbard in that room.
07:38You, of course, have J.D. Vance in that room, naturally the President of the United States.
07:42And as John mentioned, the White House correspondent's dinner will be, uh, presently broadcasting from.
07:50I'm going to have a little bit of salad.
07:53That, by the way, that would be a great commercial for Hidden Valley Ranch.
08:00Get that agent an agent. And while salad was being scarfed, this woman was, um, I don't know,
08:06stocking up for the hotel room? I don't know what's happening there.
08:09I think Kash Patel just found a new assistant.
08:12Me and Kash Patel. You know, Kash Patel is the head of the FBI.
08:15But somehow he wound up outside afterwards, I don't know, calling his Uber driver,
08:20trying to get his mom to come pick him up. He seemed kind of lost.
08:24A lot of people were just lost. They didn't know what to do.
08:27For a while there, it was unclear as to whether the dinner would be canceled or not.
08:31People were just waiting around.
08:32Then, finally, the President of the White House Correspondents Association
08:35took the stage to say, yes, the dinner is canceled and get to work.
08:40The President will be having a press briefing at the White House in 30 minutes.
08:49That is not a joke.
08:52The only thing that aren't jokes anymore are jokes, okay?
08:55It was very strange seeing all the news people who were at the event
08:58then reporting on the story in their tuxedos and ball gowns.
09:03It's like if a basketball player wore his jersey and shorts to dinner after the game.
09:07The President, one thing about Donald Trump,
09:09there's nothing he can't turn into a real estate opportunity.
09:12He immediately turned this into an argument in favor of his ballroom.
09:16He wrote,
09:24I hate to be the bearer of bad news.
09:26I'm afraid that top-secret ballroom is no longer top-secret.
09:32If it was, he'd be storing it in a shower.
09:34I love him.
09:38I have to admit something.
09:39I don't believe for one second that the reason he decided to build this ballroom is for security.
09:45But this was a pretty good argument for building...
09:48I might be pro-ballroom now, weirdly, after this.
09:51That way, if anything terrible ever happens, at least they can dance.
09:55Less than 24 hours after calling on Americans to resolve our differences
10:00and praising the warmth he shared with the press on Saturday night,
10:04Trump sat for an interview-slash-future-80-billion-dollar lawsuit
10:07with Nora O'Donnell in 60 Minutes,
10:09where he was asked about this manifesto his would-be attacker wrote.
10:13He also wrote this,
10:15I am no longer willing to permit a pedophile, rapist, and traitor
10:19to coat my hands with his crimes.
10:21What's your reaction to that?
10:22Well, I was waiting for you to read that, because I knew you would,
10:25because you're... you're horrible people.
10:27Horrible people.
10:28Yeah, he did write that.
10:30Uh, I'm... I'm not a rapist.
10:32I didn't rape anybody.
10:34Uh...
10:34Oh, you think...
10:35I'm not a pedophile.
10:35Do you think he was referring to you?
10:36Excuse me. Excuse me.
10:38I mean...
10:40You know...
10:46General rule of thumb, you know an interview isn't going great
10:48when you have to say,
10:49I'm not a rapist and I'm not a pedophile.
10:53You should be ashamed of yourself reading that,
10:55because I'm not any of those things.
10:57Mr. President, these are the gunman's words.
10:58And I was never...
10:59Excuse me. Excuse me.
11:00Excuse me.
11:01You shouldn't be reading that on 60 Minutes.
11:03You're a disgrace.
11:04But go ahead, let's finish the interview.
11:06The other thing that he wrote in the...
11:07You're disgraceful.
11:09I guess the honeymoon with the press didn't last.
11:11It was fun for 11 hours, but today,
11:14uh, the President and First Lady welcomed King Charles
11:16and Queen Camilla, who arrived at the White House
11:18that were what is scheduled to be a four-day visit to the United States.
11:22Despite the obvious security concerns,
11:24the King decided to go ahead with the trip.
11:26He said, uh, he said he'd be damned if he lets anything stand in the way
11:30of him finally getting his hands on one of those Doritos Locos Tacos
11:34from Tacos.
11:36And we are...
11:38We're very hospitable.
11:39We wanted to make sure the King's visit was fun,
11:41so we went out onto Hollywood Boulevard
11:43to get opinions from folks on the street
11:45about some things Charles did while he was here,
11:48even though he hadn't arrived yet,
11:50and we made all the things up
11:52for our special King Charles edition of Live Witness News.
12:00So we've seen the clips, King Charles is in America right now.
12:03Yeah, yeah, I've seen some stuff.
12:05Oh, yeah, that, yeah, that he's here on,
12:07there's something about, like, on Instagram
12:08that his, like, wife is, is, uh, what's it called?
12:12She's, like, some celebrity or something,
12:14and he's coming over here to Hollywood.
12:15She's a Kardashian.
12:17Yeah, yeah.
12:17What did you think of the viral clip
12:19of King Charles cutting the line
12:21at Disneyland over the weekend?
12:22I think he needs to get to the back of the line.
12:24Everyone needs to wait in line at Disneyland.
12:26It doesn't matter who you are.
12:28It is not your right to cut the line at Disneyland,
12:31King Charles.
12:32There's only one king at Disneyland,
12:33and that is Mickey Mouse.
12:35Well, what did you think
12:36when King Charles gave Donald Trump
12:37the first-ever Buckingham Peace Prize?
12:41Boy, that was bulls**t.
12:43And when you saw the clip,
12:44was there something you said to the TV?
12:45Yeah, like, what the f**k?
12:47I mean, how the f**k is this possible?
12:49This corrupt-ass s**t,
12:50he's just an orange f**k clown.
12:52I have the right to say it,
12:54no matter who is a fin.
12:55I'm not trying to offend you,
12:56I'm giving you my opinion.
12:58What did you think of the pictures
12:59of King Charles on Venice Beach shirtless?
13:02Did you think the king would have
13:03so many back tattoos?
13:05When I think of King Charles with the tattoos,
13:09I never thought he would even have a tattoo.
13:11I don't even have a tattoo myself.
13:13Here's one with meaning,
13:14it's Calvin peeing on the 13 original colonies.
13:17Is that cool for a king to have?
13:20No, that definitely is not cool
13:21to have that tattoo,
13:23especially a king of England.
13:25Yeah.
13:26It's, you know, it's very immature.
13:29The king of England is a a*****.
13:32He sucks like a pimple waiting to be popped.
13:35Your opinions are so strong,
13:36I want to crown you the king of Hollywood Boulevard.
13:39My lord, well, hold on, man.
13:41We're going to do the king.
13:42Make sure the king doesn't do it long.
13:44What would you, as king of Hollywood,
13:47like to say to the king of England?
13:49Get the a***** out this country.
13:51Go home.
13:52Learn you some a***** manners.
13:54When you come into my house,
13:56you take your a***** shoes off at my shoes.
14:00I'm not these monkeys that you a***** around with.
14:02I'm the gorilla that will smash the lights
14:05and put common sense in your ass.
14:11Thank you, Your Highness.
14:13All right, we got a good show tonight
14:15from Pod Save America.
14:17John Lovett is here.
14:18We'll be right back with Anthony Anderson.
14:27Hi there, welcome back to the show tonight.
14:30You know him from the funny and informative podcast
14:33Love It or Leave It and Pod Save America.
14:35John Lovett is with us tonight.
14:37This week, we have good shows.
14:40We have good guests, including Goldie Hawn,
14:43Kiki Palmer, Desi Lydic from The Daily Show.
14:46The Deli Boys will join us.
14:48And the one, the only Meryl Streep will be here
14:50with music from Kevin Morby,
14:53Niall Rogers and Garan Garan.
14:55So please join us for all that.
14:57Our first guest tonight is an actor, producer.
14:59He has the voice of an angel.
15:01And now he's got a new cookbook.
15:03He put it together with Cedric the Entertainer.
15:05It's called AC Barbecue,
15:07The Husky and Handsome Guide to Grilling.
15:09It comes out May 5th.
15:10Please welcome Anthony Anderson.
15:32Well, it's very good to see you.
15:35It's good to see a friendly face.
15:37How are you?
15:38I'm well, my friend.
15:38How are you?
15:39I think you may be too fit to be selling
15:41a barbecue cookbook right now.
15:42No, not at all.
15:43No.
15:43It's about balance.
15:44It's about balance?
15:45It's about balance, yeah.
15:46All right.
15:46Since when?
15:50Have Neil Anthony ever been to the White House
15:53Correspondents' Dinner?
15:53I have.
15:54I have.
15:55How many years did you go?
15:57The year before Trump ran.
15:59Oh.
16:01And the year before that.
16:03So I can't remember what years, though.
16:04So maybe like 2014 and 15?
16:0724, 15, 2015, 16, something like that.
16:09OK, right in that area.
16:10And it was a fun evening, I assume?
16:11It was a great evening.
16:12Yeah.
16:13It was a great evening.
16:14Did you sit next to various political luminaries?
16:17I did.
16:18I did.
16:18Talked a lot of trash.
16:19Talked a lot of trash to Trump.
16:21Did you?
16:21Because at that time, Trump said,
16:24I can't believe they have a show called Black-ish.
16:28Oh, right.
16:29That's right.
16:29How would they feel if we had a show like that?
16:31I was like, yeah, it's called Friends.
16:34You know?
16:37I didn't see what the up world was about.
16:40So as he was walking by, I called him over to the table
16:43and introduced him to my partner, Kenya Barris,
16:45and was like, yo, Kenya, Trump, Trump, this is my partner, Kenya.
16:48And, you know, we quizzed him about, you know, what he said.
16:51And then I specifically asked him if he was going to be running for president.
16:57And at that time, he said, no, I'm not, Anthony.
17:00Oh, wow.
17:01And he did.
17:01Oh, wow.
17:02And he did.
17:03He did.
17:03He lied to you.
17:04I swear I didn't like him.
17:05As he always does.
17:07You know, always the mentalist was supposed to perform at the dinner.
17:11Yes.
17:11And he was supposed to be here tonight to read our minds.
17:13I think we were both excited about that.
17:15I was looking forward to having him sitting here, man,
17:17and seeing what he had to do.
17:18Have you ever been subject to a mentalist before?
17:20I have.
17:21I was in Cabo at a fundraising event,
17:25and there was a mentalist there, and he picked me out of the crowd.
17:28Mm-hmm.
17:29And, you know, hundreds of people.
17:31And we're outside, and he said, Anthony,
17:32pull out your money in your pocket.
17:34And he said, just count the money.
17:35Don't even count it aloud.
17:37And I had all $100 bills, and I counted it.
17:39Of course.
17:39It was like $3,200 in cash, right?
17:42Wow.
17:44And I had a 20 and like a 1, and it was like $3,221.
17:48And he knew exactly how much money I had, and he said it.
17:51And then he told me, he came over and he said, you know,
17:53can I grab a bill?
17:54And I was like, sure.
17:55So he grabbed a $100 bill, and he said, I want you to fold this up
18:00into squares, and I want you to sit on it.
18:02And so I did that, and I sat on it, and then he went to the crowd
18:05and just asked people.
18:06He asked people their birthdays.
18:07He asked people their marriage dates.
18:09He asked people what date it was.
18:11He asked for phone numbers.
18:12And then he calculated everything into a calculator.
18:15And he said, Anthony, I want you to read off the number
18:18on that bill that you had folded under your lap.
18:21And there were nine numbers on the screen, on the whiteboard
18:24that he put up there, and it was the exact numbers that I had
18:28on my $100 bill in order.
18:31Wow.
18:31And it was just amazing to see, you know, somebody do that.
18:35So that's why I was excited to see that guy.
18:36Yeah.
18:36And yet, here we are, disappointed.
18:38Yeah.
18:39That would have been fun.
18:41I got $3,200 in my pocket right now.
18:43You want to see what we can do with it?
18:45I heard it's $3,221, man.
18:47Hold on.
18:48Let's see.
18:49Does your family, like, are psychics and fortune tellers
18:52a part of your, like, upbringing?
18:54I am.
18:55My best friend, Jerry Singleton, but I affectionately
18:58called him Skinny Boy.
18:59We went to high school together, so we've been best friends
19:01since 1987.
19:03Uh-huh.
19:04I'm his kid's godfather.
19:06He's my kid's godfather.
19:07And his mom, who just recently passed, Mildred Singleton,
19:12was a numerologist.
19:14Oh, she was?
19:15Yeah.
19:15She was a numerologist, and she could tell you everything,
19:18how your year was going to be based on that number
19:22of the year, based on when you were born
19:24and what year you were born.
19:25Was it accurate?
19:26It was very accurate.
19:27It was very accurate.
19:27She knew the years that I was going to have, I was going
19:30to make lots of money.
19:31She knew the years that I was going to travel.
19:32She knew the year that I was getting divorced.
19:34She knew the year, or she knew when I was going to meet
19:38somebody new in my life.
19:39And uncanny enough, when I was younger, when we were just
19:42in high school, she would always tell me, she'd say, Anthony,
19:46you're going to have a calling.
19:46And then I was, what calling is that?
19:48And it went beyond acting.
19:51And she said, you know what?
19:53She said, you're going to go on to have your own talk show one
19:57day, and you're going to minister to the people,
19:59and you're going to be a minister.
20:00And lo and behold, I don't have my own talk show,
20:04but I host your talk show every summer.
20:07We share a talk show.
20:07We share a talk show.
20:08And I'm an ordained minister now.
20:11Are you?
20:11Yeah.
20:13What?
20:15So the things that, you know, she saw happening for me
20:19at 17 and 18 years old actually came to life.
20:23Hold on.
20:24You're an ordained minister.
20:25Are you an ordained minister so that you can marry your friends,
20:28or are you really preaching in a...
20:30Both.
20:30You are.
20:31Yes.
20:32About Jesus?
20:37I have a calling.
20:39I mean, what better person than me, a heathen,
20:42to talk to the people?
20:45Yes, sir.
20:46Yeah, and I've married two couples before, man.
20:48And everybody wants me to give the prayers
20:52and dinners and everything.
20:54Oh, really?
20:55Wow.
20:55You've got to work now at your dinners.
20:57It's ridiculous.
20:58I do.
20:58I do.
20:58OK, speaking of heathenism, you...
21:02And now that I know you're a minister, wow, this is really...
21:05I'm not sure if I should even bring it up.
21:06Let's go.
21:07But...
21:08I'm a man of the world, Jimmy.
21:09A promise you made on television.
21:11Go ahead.
21:11What kind of Dodger fan Anthony Anderson are we going to have
21:14if they went back-to-back?
21:17I'll streak at Dodger Stadium.
21:19OK.
21:20That's what I'm going to do.
21:21That's what they're going to see.
21:22OK.
21:22I'm going to streak at Dodger Stadium.
21:24There you go.
21:25Wearing nothing but my rings.
21:27All right.
21:30Now, after you did that interview, the Dodgers won...
21:33Yes.
21:33...the World Series, which means now...
21:35Yes.
21:36...you have...
21:37You said you were going to streak.
21:39I did.
21:39Are you going to streak?
21:40I am.
21:41When?
21:42And I...
21:43You know what?
21:44The Dodgers are holding my new World Series championship ring hostage
21:50until I streak in the stadium.
21:52You are.
21:53This is last year's ring that I gave them.
21:55Yeah.
21:56I gave them this year's ring, and I was waiting for mine,
21:58and I'm like, no, no, no, no.
21:59Anthony, you made a promise.
22:00Will they make, like, a night, like an Anthony Anderson
22:03naked bobblehead night or something like that?
22:05Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
22:07And I...
22:08Which head will be bobbling?
22:11Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
22:12I guess, yeah, you can do multiple nights.
22:15You're right.
22:16Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
22:16I must be there when this happens.
22:19I...
22:19I will let you know.
22:20Please do.
22:21And I'm wondering, you know, you got to run the bases.
22:23It can't just be...
22:24That's...
22:24You got to run...
22:25I...
22:25I'm going to run...
22:27I'm going to run...
22:28I'm going to run as if I hit a Grand Slam home run.
22:30Well, no.
22:31Oh, slow.
22:32Yeah, you're...
22:32Oh, all right.
22:33Yeah, I like that.
22:35A trap.
22:36I...
22:36I'm going to run the bases in nothing but a pair of cleats and ankle socks.
22:41Oh.
22:41I...
22:42And I'm true that...
22:43And they are holding my...
22:45My World Series ring hostage until I do it.
22:48Will you have the ring on?
22:49Will you have the ring on?
22:49I will have a couple of them on.
22:51Is it legal to run naked at Dodger Stadium?
22:55It's not illegal.
22:56Oh, okay.
22:56I think it might be illegal.
22:57And I'm not going to be completely naked.
22:58I'll have on ankle socks and cleats.
23:02And I know when I'm going to do it.
23:03Oh, you do?
23:04This is what I'm going to do.
23:05I'm going to air it on your show.
23:07Great.
23:08Yeah.
23:09And...
23:10Great.
23:13No one will see it until after I air it on your show.
23:17And this is when I'm going to do it.
23:18The week of August 10th when I am hosting this show.
23:21Oh, all right.
23:22Great.
23:23That is how I promise everybody that's out there watching right now,
23:27I promise you, the first night I host this show on August 10th,
23:33you will see me run butt naked around Dodgers tonight.
23:36I love it.
23:36And I am going to add something to that.
23:38Yes.
23:39If the Dodgers foolishly elect not to make naked Anthony Anderson bobbleheads,
23:45we will have them for everyone in the audience.
23:47All right.
23:48All right.
23:49Yes.
23:49Keep it.
23:50Keep it.
23:51This is his cookbook.
24:06Go ahead.
24:09It'svos vote.
24:11Get him.
24:14Get him.
24:20Yes.
24:31Yeah, that's actually the other thing.
24:35It's, uh, Ready for the World.
24:37Let me love you down.
24:39Hold on, hold on.
24:40What do you know about Ready for the World?
24:42I know everything.
24:42I know O'Sheelia.
24:43R-F-T-W.
24:44You know O'Sheelia?
24:45I know they're from Michigan.
24:47And for whatever reason, for reasons unknown,
24:50one of them has an English accent in the song O'Sheelia.
24:54It's good for the goose.
24:55It's always good for the gander.
24:58O'Sheelia.
24:58Yes!
24:59Yes!
25:00And no one explains why that accent is there.
25:03Oh, my God.
25:04I can't believe you know it.
25:05How did that happen with Wyclef?
25:06What was going on there?
25:07You know what?
25:08I was down in Atlanta hosting a fundraiser
25:11for HBCU Awareness Week.
25:15Myself, Roxy Diaz, and Magic Johnson.
25:19And Wyclef, John, was our surprise musical guest.
25:22So at the end of his set, he was done.
25:24And I had to end the show.
25:25And I was like, I can play the keys a little bit.
25:27So I just got up there.
25:28And we did the whole song verse for verse.
25:31Was he impressed?
25:32Was he surprised and impressed by your voice?
25:34He was to the tune that he said,
25:37Ant, I'm playing the Hollywood Bowl in another month or so.
25:40I want you to come on stage with me and my band
25:43and play with us.
25:44Oh, that's awesome.
25:47We'll see.
25:47We'll see.
25:48But I plan on doing it.
25:49I plan on joining the stage at Hollywood Bowl.
25:52Will you do that naked as well?
25:57You've come up with a good plan
25:59for Anthony Stodger's appearance.
26:00I might host this show naked.
26:02How long have you been?
26:04That would be something.
26:07All right.
26:08A naked show.
26:08I like that idea.
26:10All right.
26:10How long have you been playing piano?
26:12I really can't play.
26:13You know, I fake it, man.
26:14Do you?
26:15I went to the high school for the performing arts
26:17and all my buddies were in band.
26:18So when they were practicing at lunch, man,
26:21I would just sit there.
26:21So I don't know any notes.
26:23I just mimic.
26:24I just mimic what I saw.
26:25So the songs that I play, I just remember
26:28where their hands were.
26:29So I don't know.
26:29Well, that's called playing, I think.
26:31I don't know what it is.
26:33I know a couple of songs.
26:34I know a few songs.
26:36I don't know them straight through
26:37because it was only on lunch,
26:38so I never got to learn the whole song.
26:40So I can.
26:43Never took lessons?
26:44You weren't forced to take lessons?
26:46I wanted to play the piano so bad
26:48that my mother put me in piano classes.
26:51Oh.
26:51But she put me, she heard about this piano class
26:54and so she put me in it,
26:55but it was an advanced piano class.
26:57So they were playing by ear
26:59and they were doing all this stuff.
27:00Man, we didn't even have a piano at the house.
27:02Oh.
27:02So I didn't know how I was going to do this.
27:05And they gave me a cardboard cutout of the 88 keys
27:11for me to place my hands on chords.
27:14I was like, okay, that's cool,
27:15but I can't hear s***, you know?
27:17So that didn't serve a purpose.
27:20So I got my mother's credit card one day
27:25and I ordered a baby grand piano from Colton.
27:30It was a piano store here called Colton Piano Store.
27:32And I called Colton up
27:34and I thought it was going to be a surprise
27:36and my mom wasn't going to be home
27:37when they delivered the piano.
27:39She was just going to walk in
27:39and I was going to be, hi, surprise.
27:41Well, she happened to be home
27:43when they delivered the piano
27:44and it ruined my surprise.
27:47And my mother cussed the piano guy out
27:49and was like, what the hell are you doing?
27:51I didn't know no goddamn piano.
27:53I was like, uh, mama, I did.
27:55And so she returned the piano,
27:58had to return it,
27:58and she got her money back
28:00and then she tied me butt naked
28:03to the avocado tree
28:07and whipped me with the fan belt
28:09off an 84 Ford Curie truck.
28:10Oh my God.
28:12Yeah.
28:13And when you were tied to the avocado tree,
28:15is that when you got interested in cooking?
28:20Well, that's when I got,
28:21that's when I got interested
28:22and realized I didn't have a problem
28:24being naked in public.
28:27Well, you and Cedric,
28:29you guys love barbecue.
28:30You love to barbecue.
28:31You love to eat barbecue.
28:33We can see you pretending
28:34to eat a corn in the cob here.
28:36We can see Cedric pretending
28:38to eat a rib here.
28:40Oh, we ate that.
28:40Oh, you did eat it.
28:41Oh, yeah, no, we ate that.
28:42We had to, we had to hold it still
28:43for the, for the picture,
28:44but no, we ate that stuff.
28:45What, um, what inspired you to do this?
28:48Why did you write this?
28:49Uh, well, you know,
28:50Cedric and I started a barbecue lifestyle company
28:52a few years ago.
28:53Uh, we created...
28:54You're living the barbecue lifestyle.
28:56Yeah, I, that I am.
28:57We, you know, we created a reality show
28:58called The Kings of Barbecue.
29:00Yeah.
29:00We developed seasonings
29:01and, and, and, and sauces
29:03that are in Walmart
29:04and Kroger
29:05and Lowe's
29:05and Rouse
29:06and H-E-B's.
29:07Wow, all those places.
29:08Yeah, and then we, uh,
29:09opened up a restaurant
29:10in the Westfield Century City Mall
29:12called, uh, uh, AC Barbecue,
29:13and the next thing was to,
29:16you know, make this cookbook,
29:17and it's, it chronicles
29:19the story of barbecue
29:20and community
29:21and, and what it's really about.
29:22Yeah, so everybody's invited
29:23to the cookout
29:24if you have the book.
29:24Everybody's invited, yeah.
29:25Now, this is something
29:26that I do want to discuss with you
29:27because this feels like
29:28an attack on Italian-Americans.
29:30Um, barbecue.
29:33You've never had
29:33barbecue spaghetti?
29:35No.
29:36No.
29:37You should try it.
29:38All right.
29:39When you go home,
29:40uh, do that recipe
29:41and call me
29:42and let me know
29:42what you think about it.
29:43Okay, all right.
29:44And this is something
29:45that is either,
29:47I don't know,
29:48are you trying to kill people
29:49because deep-fried uncrustable
29:51seems like the way to do it.
29:54You know, these are recipes
29:56and family recipes
29:57from around the country
29:59and they tell the story.
30:00I bet this is great.
30:01Yeah, no, it's great, man.
30:02Is it?
30:02Yeah, it is.
30:03Is it good?
30:03You put ice cream on it
30:04or how does it go?
30:05Uh, you can,
30:06you can put whatever
30:06you want on there.
30:07Okay, all right.
30:08Yeah, well, there's some.
30:09You know, some of those pictures
30:10are pornographic in there.
30:11They are pornographic.
30:12Yeah.
30:12They are.
30:13It's making me hungry
30:13just looking at it like this.
30:15I love fried catfish.
30:16That's real good.
30:17Yeah, there it is.
30:17You make that?
30:18Yeah.
30:19Yeah.
30:19It's not barbecue, boy.
30:20That's good.
30:20You know, my dad
30:21was the youngest of 16.
30:23He grew up on a farm
30:24in Little Rock, Arkansas.
30:25Wow.
30:25So my dad is the one
30:26that taught me about barbecue.
30:29He was a welder by trade
30:30so he would make
30:30his own barbecue.
30:31Oh, that's awesome.
30:32Really?
30:32With 55-gallon drums, yeah.
30:34Do you have any of those
30:35barbecues that he made?
30:37No, I don't have
30:38any of the drums,
30:39unfortunately.
30:39I don't.
30:40But that was
30:41our history together.
30:42Well, that's beautiful.
30:43Well, you know what?
30:44If you've got a hankering
30:44for any barbecue spaghetti
30:46or maybe a deep-fried
30:48uncrustable
30:50or all the regular stuff, too,
30:52it's right there.
30:52A.C. Barbecue,
30:53the Husky and Handsome
30:54Guide to Grilling.
30:55It comes out May 5th.
30:56The great Anthony Anderson,
30:58everybody.
30:58We'll be back
30:59with John Lover.
31:05This week on
31:07Jimmy Kimmel Live,
31:08Kiki Palmer,
31:09Goldie Haid,
31:11and Meryl Streep,
31:12plus music from
31:13Kevin Morby
31:14and Duran Duran
31:16featuring Nile Rodgers.
31:24Hi there.
31:25Welcome back.
31:26Our next guest
31:28went from the White House
31:29under Obama
31:30to podcaster,
31:31which is the opposite
31:32of how they do it now.
31:33He has two popular podcasts,
31:35Pod Save America
31:36and Love It or Leave It.
31:37Please welcome
31:38John Lovett.
31:51How are you?
31:53I'm doing great.
31:54It's very good to see you.
31:55I'm doing great, yes.
31:55I know you were in Washington
31:57over the weekend.
31:58That's right.
31:58But you did not go
31:59to the correspondence dinner.
32:01No.
32:02As a rule,
32:03if J.D. Vance and I
32:05are at a party
32:06at the same time,
32:08either he made a mistake
32:09or I made a mistake.
32:11No, I got out of town.
32:12I was on a plane
32:14when it all happened.
32:15The Wi-Fi wasn't working.
32:17Oh.
32:17By the time I landed,
32:19it was already about
32:20building a ballroom.
32:22That's right.
32:23Now, am I nuts
32:24in thinking that
32:26he might now have a point
32:27about this ballroom?
32:29Yeah.
32:29I am.
32:30You're nuts.
32:30Why?
32:31Because the problem
32:32with the ballroom
32:33is not the idea
32:34or concept
32:36of a philosophical ballroom.
32:38Mm-hmm.
32:39It's that he knocked
32:40down the East Room
32:41without asking anybody
32:42permission like Conny.
32:44Yeah, hold on.
32:45I forgot about that.
32:47The ballroom doesn't
32:48become more legal
32:50because someone
32:51did something
32:52evil and stupid
32:53at a different ballroom.
32:55Like, it's not how
32:56ballrooms work.
32:57It isn't?
32:57No.
32:58Wait a minute.
32:59I'm the answer.
33:01How do you know
33:01so much about ballrooms?
33:03What are you,
33:03spending your life
33:04at a Chuck E. Cheese?
33:05What do you know
33:06about these ballrooms?
33:07Had some fun
33:08in those places.
33:08Yeah.
33:09You, um,
33:10did you go to, like,
33:11parties and stuff?
33:12Yeah, three parties.
33:13So I host a show
33:15called Love It or Leave It.
33:15We did a big live show
33:16and then Crooked Media,
33:18the company that
33:18John and Tommy and I
33:20founded
33:20that does Pod Save America,
33:22we had a big party,
33:23but then the goal
33:23was for me
33:24to get John and Tommy,
33:25my straight boys,
33:27to the Grindr party.
33:28Ah, yeah.
33:30Because Grindr,
33:31you know, the app,
33:33had a party
33:34and they've never
33:34had a party before
33:35and so I'm trying
33:36to get my boys
33:36to the Grindr party,
33:38all right?
33:38and then there's a,
33:39there's a traffic jam
33:40at the Belgian embassy
33:41and we're like,
33:42what's going on?
33:42And, and, oh,
33:43everybody's trying
33:44to talk to Gavin Newsom
33:45and some reporter's like,
33:46are you trying
33:46to talk to Gavin Newsom?
33:47I'm like, I don't,
33:48I'm trying to get my boys
33:49to the Grindr party
33:51and then we get
33:52to the Grindr party.
33:53Oh.
33:54Lindsey Graham is there.
33:55No.
33:55No, he's not.
33:59No.
34:00Oh.
34:01No, but we're at this.
34:03Wouldn't that be nice
34:03for him, though?
34:05Boy, he's there in his mind.
34:08You don't have to be
34:08a great mentalist
34:12to figure that out.
34:14But so, we're at
34:15the Grindr party,
34:16all right?
34:17And they ran out of alcohol.
34:19No!
34:23Gay people have been fighting
34:24for 50 years, all right?
34:27Marsha P. Johnson
34:28threw a brick
34:29at the Stonewall Ryan.
34:31And now the gays
34:32are running out of alcohol.
34:35And it's like,
34:36you're at this thing
34:37and you're like,
34:37who do I got a
34:38to get a martini?
34:41There was no one.
34:42No one?
34:44But so,
34:44so,
34:46stop it.
34:47So,
34:48we're at,
34:48wait,
34:48we're at the Grindr party.
34:50And because
34:52my fellow
34:53Pons of America
34:54co-hosts
34:55are confident
34:55in their masculinity.
34:56Right.
34:57They're enjoying themselves
34:58at the Grindr party.
34:59But then who do we see?
35:00We see the head
35:01of the Democratic
35:01National Committee,
35:03guy named Ken Martin.
35:04Okay.
35:04And we think,
35:05oh,
35:05that's,
35:05and I've been drinking.
35:06I was like,
35:06oh,
35:06I'll say hi
35:07to the head
35:07of the DNC.
35:09I forgot
35:09that we've been
35:10critical of the DNC.
35:12Oh.
35:12And so,
35:13all of a sudden,
35:14I'm in this super intense
35:15conversation
35:15with the head
35:16of the Democratic
35:17National Committee
35:17because they,
35:18they had written
35:19on a report
35:20about what went wrong
35:21in 2024
35:21but didn't release it
35:23because it went perfectly.
35:25And,
35:25and we're like,
35:26we think the report
35:27should be released.
35:27So,
35:27I'm in this,
35:28like,
35:28kind of,
35:28a little bit
35:29of an intense conversation
35:30and I'm like,
35:30I've never seen
35:31this kind of passion
35:32from this guy before.
35:33I've had a few drinks
35:34and I'm like,
35:34maybe the atmosphere
35:35is like,
35:35there's something
35:35going on here?
35:36No.
35:38There wasn't.
35:40But now he's gonna be
35:41on Ponce of America tomorrow.
35:41Oh, he is?
35:42Yeah.
35:43Oh,
35:44all right.
35:44But the thing about it
35:45is this dinner,
35:46I thought it was
35:47like a silly thing
35:48for a really long time.
35:49Like,
35:49why is everybody
35:49being so cushy?
35:50We're supposed to be,
35:51the press is supposed
35:52to hold people
35:52in power accountable.
35:53It blurs the lines,
35:54yes.
35:54It blurs the lines
35:55but now that we've lived
35:56under Trump for so long,
35:57it's like,
35:57you know what,
35:58maybe it's okay
35:58that people come together
35:59in one room
36:00once in a while
36:01and talk to each other
36:02and have a couple drinks
36:03and then go back
36:04to fighting again
36:05the next day.
36:05Interesting.
36:06So you think,
36:07which is different,
36:08I think,
36:08than what a lot of people think,
36:09you think it is actually
36:10more appropriate now
36:11to be in a room
36:13for an event
36:14that supports
36:15the First Amendment
36:16with somebody
36:16who doesn't believe
36:18in the First Amendment.
36:19No, I wouldn't be caught
36:20dead at the dinner.
36:21Oh, okay.
36:22The parties, you mean.
36:23But, yeah,
36:24but it's nice to be
36:25around people in real life
36:26as opposed to just
36:27fighting on the Internet
36:28because ultimately,
36:30it is supposed to be
36:31a chance to poke fun
36:33at people in power.
36:33That's what you were doing.
36:34That's what you were doing.
36:35You were using
36:36your First Amendment right
36:37to poke fun
36:38of people in power.
36:39And that's what
36:40that whole weekend
36:41used to be about
36:42before they changed
36:43comedian to mentalist.
36:46Do you have any
36:47mental powers
36:48that you can share with us?
36:50No, but I'm sending
36:51a message
36:52to the mentalist
36:53right now.
36:54What is the message?
36:56You canceled,
36:57you f***y.
37:04I've been sending
37:05him that message
37:06all day.
37:07Maybe you tuned
37:09into my mentalist
37:10and then it went
37:10to the other mentalist.
37:12Maybe I'm mentalizing.
37:13Interesting.
37:14Look, everybody enjoys
37:15an inoffensive joke
37:17in good taste, right?
37:18Like, Trump was supposed
37:19to perform after a mentalist.
37:21That's interesting
37:22because he's a bit
37:22of a magician.
37:23He made America's
37:24reputation disappear.
37:25Mm-hmm.
37:25But see, that's...
37:30That's fine.
37:31That's easy.
37:32Everyone, no one's
37:33going to have a problem
37:34with that.
37:34But when things are tough,
37:35you need to be able
37:36to make jokes
37:37about dark topics.
37:39Like how every,
37:40you made fun of
37:41RFK Jr.
37:42for seeming to race
37:43ahead of his wife,
37:43Cheryl Hines,
37:44as if he left her behind.
37:45But I think
37:46that's really unfair
37:47because if the shooter
37:49were dead,
37:49you only have 30 minutes
37:50or so to get that
37:51meat in the freezer.
37:57Now that is in poor taste.
37:59But that's what
38:00democracy is all about,
38:02Jimmy.
38:02That's right.
38:03You couldn't be
38:04more correct on that.
38:05Now, you know things.
38:07Why do you think
38:08they make a big deal
38:10out of something
38:10like a joke,
38:11like a dumb joke,
38:12and try to make it
38:13into this?
38:15In your opinion,
38:16why do they do that?
38:17What's their purpose?
38:19It's hard to get
38:20into their minds.
38:21I'm no mentalist.
38:22But I think it is wrong.
38:26Political violence
38:26is incredibly dangerous.
38:28It can tear a society apart.
38:30There's nothing
38:30to be gained from it.
38:31I find it gross
38:32when people try
38:33to defend it,
38:34whatever the side.
38:35And I think it's gross
38:36when people try
38:36to exploit it
38:37because what political
38:38violence does
38:39is it doesn't just
38:40try to silence
38:41one leader,
38:41one powerful person.
38:42It tries to silence
38:43all of us.
38:44It tries to decide
38:44something for all of us
38:46and that can't work.
38:47We can't allow
38:48that to work.
38:48So we should be able
38:49to denounce it collectively.
38:51And so they want
38:52to go after you.
38:53They want to go
38:53after everybody
38:54because on some level
38:55they know that one person
38:56who has encouraged
38:57so much political violence
38:58and has caused
38:59so much division
39:00and has raised
39:01the temperature so high
39:02is the president
39:03of the United States.
39:04And there's something
39:06comforting to go
39:08after you.
39:09There's something
39:09comforting about
39:10going after their left,
39:12their typical opponent.
39:13as opposed to
39:14just facing the fact
39:15that, yeah,
39:16it's bad when anybody,
39:18a random person
39:19on the internet
39:19defends political violence
39:21but it's especially
39:21dangerous when it's
39:22the most powerful person
39:23in the world.
39:24By the same token,
39:26I think it is also wrong
39:27when people compare
39:28Trump to Hitler
39:30or say that MAGA
39:32is a bunch of Nazis.
39:33Like, I saw
39:34that insurrection, okay?
39:37Nazis were Hugo Boss.
39:43They're not as well-dressed.
39:43So, you are saying
39:46that they're not
39:46as well-dressed, yeah.
39:48Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
39:51Do you think
39:52it is the president's job
39:53to set the tone
39:55for the country?
39:57Absolutely.
39:58I think, well,
40:00whether it's his job
40:02or not,
40:02the president does
40:03set the tone
40:03for the country.
40:04And the one thing
40:04I would just say is
40:05we've already been through
40:08an episode of Donald Trump
40:09trying to get
40:10Jimmy Kimmel canceled.
40:12And gas is $6 a gallon.
40:15Open the straight
40:15of Hormuz, all right?
40:18And by the way,
40:22you know,
40:23Jimmy, you're a lot
40:24like the Ayatollahs.
40:26Well, first of all,
40:28thank you.
40:29Yep.
40:30In what ways, John?
40:33Thanks for asking.
40:35Strike you down.
40:36There's a dozen younger,
40:37hotter, more extreme versions
40:38of Jimmy Kimmel
40:40just waiting to take power.
40:42Bearded as well.
40:43Maybe gay.
40:45Maybe gay.
40:46We'll find out
40:46at the Grindr party
40:47next year.
40:48Absolutely.
40:50I'll come,
40:51I'll be one of your boys.
40:52We'll get going there, yeah.
40:53That's great.
40:53It's a date.
40:54Well, good luck
40:55with Ken Martin tomorrow.
40:56Yeah, that's great.
40:58I hope he's not too upset.
41:00Let's hope,
41:00he's not going to cancel
41:01because of this, right?
41:02Yeah, we better not.
41:02He was such a great,
41:03we had such a great conversation.
41:04You know what?
41:04If he does,
41:05we'll bring the wrath
41:06of Melania down on him.
41:08I think it's,
41:09I just want to say,
41:10in a divided time,
41:11I think it's beautiful
41:12that you could find a way
41:13for Trump and his wife
41:15to reconnect.
41:17You know what?
41:18That's a very,
41:19very good point.
41:20John Lovett, everybody,
41:21is in contact
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41:27Thursday,
41:28and Sunday.
41:29Thank you, John.
41:37Thanks to Anthony Anderson
41:38and John Lovett.
41:40Apologies to Matt Damon.
41:41We ran out of time for him.
41:42Join us tomorrow night
41:43with Kiki Palmer,
41:44Kareem Rama,
41:45and music from Kevin Morby.
41:46Nightline is next.
41:47Thanks for watching.
41:48Good night.
41:48.
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