‘Trump R*P*D 13-Year-Old Minors’: Epstein Victims CONFRONT Trump, Reveal HORRIFYING Details

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This video captures a tense and highly controversial moment from April 28, 2026, where individuals identified as alleged victims connected to the wider Jeffrey Epstein scandal publicly confront former U.S. President Donald Trump.

During the confrontation, serious accusations are raised, sparking intense reactions both on the ground and across social media. The clip has quickly gone viral, fueling debate, outrage, and deep political polarization. While the claims made in the video are extremely grave, it is important to note that they remain allegations and have not been independently verified in a court of law.

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Transcript

00:00:00Thank you to Skye Roberts and Amanda for helping co-convene this roundtable.

00:00:10We're doing this on the day that King Charles is visiting the Capitol.

00:00:14I had made a request of King Charles to meet, not with me, not with Thomas Massey,

00:00:19not with the survivor groups, but the actual survivors.

00:00:23I thought the King owed that to the survivors, given his brothers serious allegations of abuse.

00:00:31And I thought it would have been an incredible moment and statement to show that it doesn't matter how much

00:00:37wealth you have,

00:00:38how much power you have, no human being is dispensable, and that the survivors deserve justice.

00:00:44He unfortunately declined that request.

00:00:48I met with the British ambassador.

00:00:51The British ambassador has suggested that the King will acknowledge the Epstein survivors in his address to Congress today.

00:00:59I hope his flunkies don't take out the acknowledgement from his text,

00:01:03and I fully expect the King to be acknowledging the survivors and the Epstein survivors

00:01:10when he speaks to our nation at Congress this afternoon.

00:01:14But this roundtable is about re-centering the survivors.

00:01:21They have shown such courage, such enormous guts to tell their stories over and over again

00:01:32and to see that there's justice for people who abused young girls and, in some cases, trafficked and raped them.

00:01:40And twice, Skye and other family members and survivors came outside the Capitol,

00:01:47and their advocacy is what led to Thomas Massey and my ability to pass the Epstein Transparency Act.

00:01:55We've managed to release 3 million files.

00:01:58Many of the people in those files have serious allegations of abuse,

00:02:04but there still has not been a single investigation or prosecution in the United States.

00:02:09We need to make sure that the men who abused, raped, or trafficked these girls are facing investigations and prosecutions.

00:02:17Many other countries, Britain, Latvia, Norway, have seen investigations and prosecutions.

00:02:24We haven't had a single one.

00:02:26So this roundtable is about making that call.

00:02:29And then there's still 3 million files that remain hidden that are in a cover-up that the survivors want

00:02:35to see released.

00:02:37There was recently a lawsuit that Katie Fang has brought under the Administrative Procedures Act

00:02:42saying that the administration, the Justice Department, is in violation of the law,

00:02:47of the Epstein Transparency Act that passed overwhelmingly, and they need to release the files.

00:02:52Today is a call to release all of the remaining files and to begin the investigation and prosecution of the

00:02:59Epstein class.

00:03:00But most importantly, it is a dialogue with the survivors and all of the incredible leaders.

00:03:07Thank you to so many of the incredible leaders from women's groups and domestic violence groups and sexual assault groups

00:03:14to have a real conversation about what needs to be done in this country to deal with sexual assault,

00:03:20to deal with the power differential that exists between rich and powerful men and those who they abuse,

00:03:26and what we need to do to move forward as a nation and as a world to use this awful

00:03:32Epstein saga

00:03:33to develop a more humane and just policy and more accountability

00:03:37so these things don't happen again to more young girls in our country or around the world.

00:03:42With that, I want to turn it over to Skye Roberts.

00:03:47Skye, thank you for suggesting that we do this, and thank you for your and Amanda's participation.

00:03:54We very much appreciate it.

00:03:56Good morning, and thank you all for being here.

00:03:59My name is Skye Roberts, and I am the younger brother of Virginia Roberts-Jufre.

00:04:04I want to begin by thanking Representative Ro Khanna.

00:04:07Thank you for assisting in getting this put together.

00:04:09I think it's a really big day, especially given the moment with the king arriving in town

00:04:13and obviously having the survivors here.

00:04:15It was just the year of Virginia's passing on Saturday last week,

00:04:18and we got to hold a beautiful vigil for her.

00:04:21But we're right back into advocacy work, and we're just steps away from where the king is currently at.

00:04:26I want to take a moment to share Virginia's story because her story is not just hers.

00:04:30It represents so many others who never got the chance to be heard.

00:04:35When Virginia was just 16 years old, my father, who worked as a groundskeeper at Mar-a-Lago,

00:04:39helped her get a job there as a locker room attendant.

00:04:42That should have been a safe opportunity for a young girl.

00:04:45Instead, it became the entry point into a world of unimaginable abuse.

00:04:50That summer, Virginia was recruited at Mar-a-Lago by Ghislaine Maxwell

00:04:54and quickly pulled into orbit of Jeffrey Epstein.

00:04:56What followed was not just abuse by them, but by many powerful individuals,

00:05:01many of whom have still not been brought to justice.

00:05:06This is how trafficking works.

00:05:08Survivors are groomed.

00:05:10They are manipulated into believing they are complicit in their own abuse.

00:05:14They are isolated, controlled, and threatened.

00:05:18I remember one moment that has stayed with me forever,

00:05:21when Epstein handed Virginia a photo of me as a child,

00:05:25wearing my backpack on my way to elementary school.

00:05:29It wasn't just a picture.

00:05:31It was a message, a threat, a way to keep her silent

00:05:35by making her fear for the people she loved.

00:05:38Virginia was trafficked across countries, including to the United Kingdom,

00:05:42where she was abused by Prince Andrew, now former Prince Andrew.

00:05:48There's a difficult irony in all of this.

00:05:50Virginia was recruited from a property owned by Donald Trump

00:05:53and trafficked to a member of the British royal family.

00:05:57Yet, today, survivors are here, sitting with members of Congress,

00:06:02still fighting to be heard, still pushing for real accountability.

00:06:06While many of the powerful figures connected to these systems

00:06:09remain just out of reach, unable to acknowledge survivors face to face.

00:06:14You would expect this to be a moment for the king

00:06:16to give a message to the world that he stands with survivors.

00:06:22We still can't get that from our own president of the United States.

00:06:25He continues to say,

00:06:27hoax, victims or whatever,

00:06:29and this is not about politics to us.

00:06:31This is a human issue, period.

00:06:35And that is why we're here today.

00:06:36We have an opportunity and a responsibility

00:06:39to set a different example for the next generation.

00:06:42Today, the reality is that many survivors of sexual assault

00:06:46do not come forward until around the age of 40.

00:06:49That delay is not a failure of survivors.

00:06:51It is a result of trauma, fear, and systems

00:06:54that have not made space for them to speak sooner.

00:06:57Yet, the statute of limitations continues to run,

00:07:01protecting predators while limiting survivors,

00:07:03allowing time itself to be used as a tool of silence and injustice.

00:07:08That is why legislation like Virginia's law is so critical,

00:07:13eliminating the statute of limitations for sexual abuse at the federal level

00:07:17so survivors can come forward when they are ready,

00:07:19not when the law forces them to.

00:07:22And we must do this in partnership with the incredible organizations here today.

00:07:26Thank you all so, so much.

00:07:27It's a pleasure to meet many, many of you.

00:07:29Many of you, we've worked with you guys,

00:07:32including WorldWe,

00:07:36who've provided so much support

00:07:38and a safe space for many of the survivors to come forward,

00:07:40and it would be a disservice not to mention you here today

00:07:44and how much you've done for us in the survivor community.

00:07:46So, thank you.

00:07:48I'm honored to be a part of this conversation,

00:07:52but more importantly,

00:07:53I'm here to ensure that Virginia's story continues to drive action.

00:07:56With that, I'd like to turn it over to my wife, Amanda,

00:07:59to walk through SOAR, Virginia's law,

00:08:02and the concrete steps we can take together to move this forward.

00:08:12My name is Amanda Roberts,

00:08:14and I am the sister-in-law, Virginia Roberts-Jouffre.

00:08:17And I am in awe of this moment right here.

00:08:22It's always a reminder that it is her who should be sitting in this seat,

00:08:27that her courage, her tenacity,

00:08:30and her refusal to back down from systems

00:08:32who continue to abuse their power

00:08:34bring us here every single time.

00:08:38And it's also striking to see these different organizations

00:08:42and where they come from.

00:08:44Model Alliance, Right for Girls,

00:08:46Ultraviolet, World Without Exploitation,

00:08:49Now, Women's March.

00:08:50It shows you that there is a problem across the globe.

00:08:54It shows you that this Epstein case

00:08:57is not just about a singular event or abuse,

00:09:00that Jeffrey Epstein was not an anomaly,

00:09:03that unfortunately this is a reality

00:09:06that young women, girls, and men, and boys

00:09:08face every single day of their lives,

00:09:10and that at this moment and this time,

00:09:13it is now time to do something about it

00:09:16legally, legislatively,

00:09:18and anyone in power deserves to pay the repercussions of their actions.

00:09:25I want to talk to you guys about SOAR.

00:09:29SOAR was Virginia's non-profit.

00:09:32It was her baby, and it was her dream.

00:09:35And one year after her passing,

00:09:37Skye and I get to announce

00:09:38that we will be the board members of SOAR,

00:09:40and we will actively be able to continue her legacy.

00:09:44It is an honor to sit with you all today

00:09:48to know that this is just the beginning

00:09:50of a continued relationship of real work.

00:09:53I also want to talk about Virginia's law.

00:09:57That was another dream of hers.

00:10:00And it coincides with SOAR,

00:10:03because the questions Virginia asked always is,

00:10:06what happens now?

00:10:07After a survivor leaves sexual exploitation,

00:10:10domestic violence, what happens now?

00:10:13Who is there for them?

00:10:15What if I had an education?

00:10:17What if I had financial resources?

00:10:20What if I had mental health care?

00:10:22How could that have prolonged my life?

00:10:25And what if I had a system that worked for me?

00:10:29Laws that worked for me.

00:10:31And that is what we intend to continue to do with SOAR.

00:10:35We intend to build a non-profit by survivors

00:10:38and for survivors alongside her survivor sisters.

00:10:43And this is just the beginning of her work.

00:10:45And I'm truly, truly honored to sit here with all of you

00:10:49to open this conversation with Ro Khanna

00:10:52and many representatives who want to see real change.

00:10:56We have to begin to dissect the systematic abuse

00:10:59and failures that happened

00:11:01with the first reportings of the FBI.

00:11:04How was that mismanaged and missed?

00:11:07The deals that Acosta was given

00:11:11and how that allowed Jeffrey Epstein

00:11:13to continue to abuse girls for another nine years

00:11:17with hundreds and hundreds of victims.

00:11:19This is a reality that survivors face every single day.

00:11:24It's why more reporting doesn't happen.

00:11:27So we have to start with legislation.

00:11:29We have to show on a legal level

00:11:32that they will pay those repercussions

00:11:34so that survivors can speak out in safety.

00:11:39Thank you, Amanda.

00:11:40Thank you for those very powerful words.

00:11:42And thank you, Sky, for those powerful words.

00:11:44I know it's a very emotional moment

00:11:46and I'm grateful to both of you.

00:11:48We'll now hear from another survivor of Epstein.

00:11:52Charlene, thank you for all the courage

00:11:54you've shown all these months and for being here.

00:11:56If you could share a few words.

00:11:57Thank you, Alcana.

00:11:59Thank you for everybody and all of your help.

00:12:04My name is Charlene Oshard.

00:12:07I'm a survivor of trafficking.

00:12:10But before I ever understood that word,

00:12:13I was just a young woman

00:12:15trying to build a modeling career.

00:12:17I want to speak from that place

00:12:20because the way trafficking actually happens

00:12:23is very different from the way people imagine it.

00:12:28When I entered the modeling world,

00:12:30I was barely a teenager.

00:12:32I was ambitious, excited,

00:12:35and completely unprepared for the risks

00:12:37that came with traveling alone across the world.

00:12:41No one ever talked to me about trafficking,

00:12:43not my modeling agencies,

00:12:46not the adults around me

00:12:47who I assumed understood the industry better than I did.

00:12:51There were no protective measures,

00:12:54no conversations around red flags,

00:12:56no warnings about the kinds of people

00:12:58who target young women

00:12:59who travel internationally with no support system.

00:13:04I didn't know what grooming was.

00:13:06I didn't know what coercion looked like.

00:13:09I didn't know what opportunity could be used as a weapon.

00:13:15And that is exactly why I was vulnerable.

00:13:20Trafficking didn't start with violence.

00:13:22It started with access,

00:13:24people offering mentorship,

00:13:26people who promised exposure, travel,

00:13:28and introductions to powerful individuals.

00:13:32That kind of access is like currency

00:13:35when you're young and trying to succeed.

00:13:38You don't question it.

00:13:39In fact, you're taught to be grateful

00:13:42for all these opportunities.

00:13:44I was groomed and manipulated in plain sight,

00:13:48inside environments that looked legitimate,

00:13:51hotels, studios, photo shoots, industry events,

00:13:54and most during jobs that were framed as career building.

00:13:58I didn't recognize any of it as trafficking

00:14:01because no one had ever taught me

00:14:02what trafficking looked like.

00:14:04By the time the situation shifted

00:14:06into dependency and control,

00:14:08emotional, financial, and reputational,

00:14:11I was already entangled.

00:14:13And like many survivors,

00:14:15I didn't have the language to name what was happening.

00:14:18I thought I had made mistakes.

00:14:21I thought it was my fault.

00:14:24I thought I had put myself in these situations.

00:14:27That confusion is part of the system

00:14:29that is not accidental,

00:14:30and traffickers rely on this.

00:14:34People often talk about trafficking

00:14:36as something that happens in a moment,

00:14:37but the truth is the aftermath

00:14:40follows you far into adulthood.

00:14:43It affects your relationships,

00:14:45who you marry,

00:14:46your sense of safety,

00:14:48your ability to trust,

00:14:49your career,

00:14:50your mental health,

00:14:51and your financial stability.

00:14:53Recovery is not linear.

00:14:55It is lifelong.

00:14:57And the hardest part of knowing that so much of it

00:15:00could be prevented

00:15:02if the systems around me

00:15:04had been designated to protect young people

00:15:08instead of leaving them to navigate this danger alone.

00:15:13Trafficking is not random.

00:15:15It is structured.

00:15:16It is patterned.

00:15:18And it is preventable.

00:15:20I'm calling for legislation

00:15:21that reflects how trafficking actually works.

00:15:25Mandatory education and safety protocols

00:15:28for industries that employ young people,

00:15:31especially those who travel,

00:15:33including modeling, entertainment, and sports.

00:15:36Clear legal definitions of grooming,

00:15:39coercive control,

00:15:40so exploitation cannot be reframed as consent.

00:15:46Federal protections that eliminate loopholes

00:15:50created by varying state age of consent laws,

00:15:53especially when minors are transported across state lines.

00:15:58Stronger oversight of travel,

00:16:01model housing,

00:16:02and financial arrangements

00:16:03for minors and young adults working internationally.

00:16:08Pattern-based detection requirements

00:16:10for financial institutions

00:16:11because trafficking leaves financial footprints

00:16:14long before a survivor can speak up.

00:16:18Accountability for individuals and institutions

00:16:21that knowingly or negligently enable

00:16:24trafficking environments.

00:16:26Right now,

00:16:28too much of trafficking happens under the table,

00:16:32hidden by secrecy, silence,

00:16:34and the assumption that if a young woman

00:16:36is traveling for work,

00:16:37she must be safe.

00:16:39That assumption is dangerous,

00:16:40it is wrong,

00:16:41and it's costing lives.

00:16:44What I hope to see are laws created

00:16:46that no one would have protected me.

00:16:50I need laws that protected me

00:16:52when I was a young model.

00:16:55Laws that ensure no girl,

00:16:57no model,

00:16:58no ambitious teenager traveling alone

00:17:01is left without guidance,

00:17:03oversight, or support.

00:17:06If we bring trafficking out of the shadows,

00:17:10if we close the gaps traffickers rely on,

00:17:13and if we legislate based on how exploitation

00:17:15actually unfolds,

00:17:17then we don't just respond to trafficking.

00:17:20We prevent it.

00:17:25Thank you, Charlene.

00:17:26That was really powerful

00:17:27and so many very thoughtful

00:17:29and practical suggestions

00:17:30that hopefully can become part of the conversation

00:17:33and legislation.

00:17:35I appreciate it.

00:17:36I want to now turn to Danny Vansky,

00:17:40another survivor of Epstein,

00:17:42and really grateful for your being here.

00:17:44Thank you so much.

00:17:45Yeah, thank you.

00:17:46First, I want to say thank you

00:17:47for this incredible collective effort

00:17:48that has gone into this

00:17:50because this has never been

00:17:52just about Epstein and Maxwell survivors.

00:17:53It has been about survivors of all abuse

00:17:57and we really saw that come into play

00:18:00with the Transparency Act.

00:18:01You know, we had people from all over,

00:18:05survivors from all over

00:18:06calling their congressional leaders

00:18:07and their reps

00:18:08and that fueled this fight

00:18:10in such a profound way.

00:18:11So it is a collective

00:18:13and I think people in this country

00:18:14really want to see change

00:18:16and we feel that as Epstein survivors.

00:18:20Similar to Charlene's experience,

00:18:22I was also groomed.

00:18:24For me, it was the dance world

00:18:25and there are safeguards

00:18:27that need to be put in place

00:18:28because, I mean,

00:18:30I was groomed before.

00:18:31I knew I was groomed, right?

00:18:34So I want to take you back

00:18:36to 2004 and 2005,

00:18:38which was when my abuse began

00:18:40with Jeffrey Epstein.

00:18:41I was 17 years old.

00:18:43But again, I came from the dance world,

00:18:46competition dance first,

00:18:47moved into the world of ballet

00:18:50and there has always been a world of,

00:18:53there's a hierarchy

00:18:54that has always existed.

00:18:56We are, as dancers,

00:18:58often in places

00:18:59where there's direct access

00:19:01from older teachers.

00:19:03I remember I used to take

00:19:05private ballet lessons

00:19:06and my mom would be with me

00:19:07and there was an act of,

00:19:09it felt very ritualistic

00:19:11of walking in there

00:19:12with my leotard and tights

00:19:13and my sweatpants over

00:19:14and you would take off

00:19:15the sweatpants

00:19:16and you would go in

00:19:16and have a lesson,

00:19:17which really wasn't that different

00:19:19from what I experienced

00:19:20with Jeffrey Epstein.

00:19:22I was trafficked to Jeffrey Epstein.

00:19:24I, you know,

00:19:25didn't know what that meant

00:19:27for such a long time.

00:19:29My recruiter was,

00:19:30there were two,

00:19:31one was 19

00:19:32and one was 15 years old

00:19:33who was just trying

00:19:33to make it for herself.

00:19:35And I think something

00:19:36that's often overlooked in this

00:19:37is the recruitment aspect of this.

00:19:39And it's,

00:19:40it felt like a pyramid scheme,

00:19:42right?

00:19:42And there was a coercive manipulation

00:19:46that kept us all there

00:19:48that felt completely

00:19:50like it was something

00:19:51you could not escape.

00:19:54In my own abuse,

00:19:55Jeffrey,

00:19:56I know many of you

00:19:57know this story,

00:19:57but in my own abuse,

00:19:59my mom had a brain tumor

00:20:01that she was diagnosed with.

00:20:02I brought Jeffrey Epstein,

00:20:04the scans,

00:20:05scans because I had thought

00:20:05that he made his money

00:20:06from the medical profession.

00:20:09And he basically held

00:20:11the scans over me

00:20:12and said,

00:20:13you know,

00:20:14you,

00:20:15I have the power

00:20:16to get the best anesthesiologist

00:20:18and all the power

00:20:19at Mount Sinai

00:20:20or I can take all that away.

00:20:22And I feared for her

00:20:24and for her life.

00:20:25And so I did whatever

00:20:27I had to do.

00:20:28And he basically said to me

00:20:29at that point,

00:20:29you can procure other girls

00:20:31or you can accept

00:20:32you have to do more here.

00:20:34And so the abuse

00:20:35held me there.

00:20:36I did not recruit anybody,

00:20:37but even if I had,

00:20:39that was all part of this,

00:20:40right?

00:20:41It was all about

00:20:42the manipulation.

00:20:44But all to say that

00:20:46trafficking can happen anywhere.

00:20:48We were on the Upper East Side

00:20:49of Manhattan.

00:20:50I recently went back

00:20:51to the mansion

00:20:51and stood at the steps,

00:20:53which was one of the hardest

00:20:54experiences I've done

00:20:55in my adult life

00:20:56because the door

00:20:57still felt massive.

00:20:59It still felt,

00:21:00you know,

00:21:00when you're young

00:21:01and you're playing

00:21:02in the backyard,

00:21:03the backyard feels so big,

00:21:05right?

00:21:06And then you go back

00:21:07and you're like,

00:21:07oh, it was so tiny,

00:21:08right?

00:21:08And in this experience,

00:21:11no, it really is that looming

00:21:13and not much power

00:21:15and even just the architecture

00:21:17of it is meant

00:21:17to make you feel small.

00:21:20So I was held there

00:21:21for so long.

00:21:23And I want to shift

00:21:24to the way the systems

00:21:26have perpetually failed us.

00:21:27I was able to extricate myself.

00:21:29However,

00:21:30in 2008,

00:21:31I was subpoenaed.

00:21:32And I went in

00:21:33for the interview

00:21:37and nobody ever told me

00:21:38I was safe.

00:21:40I knew that I had to show up

00:21:42for the subpoena.

00:21:43I did not have a victim's rights advocate.

00:21:45I did not have a lawyer.

00:21:47I didn't know I was entitled

00:21:48to those things.

00:21:49It did feel like an interrogation

00:21:51in some ways,

00:21:52but even more so than that,

00:21:54Jeffrey had already proven

00:21:55his power

00:21:56time and time again.

00:21:58And I had a friend

00:21:59who called me

00:22:00and said at that point,

00:22:03you know,

00:22:03Jeffrey threatened my family.

00:22:05You cannot speak.

00:22:06He had also told me

00:22:08that I would be brought up

00:22:08on prostitution charges

00:22:10because I had turned 18

00:22:11while I was there.

00:22:13And I called my mom

00:22:14and my mom was so fearful.

00:22:15And she said,

00:22:16get as far away

00:22:17from this as possible.

00:22:18There was nobody who said,

00:22:20there's a safe space

00:22:21to tell your story.

00:22:22So when we think

00:22:24about all of this,

00:22:26I think there's some reform

00:22:27that needs to happen here.

00:22:29When victims are brought

00:22:30in to the FBI

00:22:32or questioned,

00:22:33how do we make them

00:22:34feel seen and heard

00:22:35and safe

00:22:36so that we can get

00:22:38the stories

00:22:38and understand

00:22:40what's happening?

00:22:41I think right now

00:22:42there's still demand

00:22:44for this.

00:22:45Demand has not slowed.

00:22:46Right now we see things

00:22:48online like Rape Academy

00:22:50and MotherList.com

00:22:51and so we know

00:22:53that this is still happening

00:22:54time and time again.

00:22:57And if not,

00:22:58it's gotten worse.

00:22:58So who is the next

00:22:59Jeffrey Epstein?

00:23:00And what is happening

00:23:01to our youth right now?

00:23:03I am a dance teacher.

00:23:04I'm a choreographer.

00:23:05I'm not a politician.

00:23:08And I see these girls.

00:23:10I see these kids

00:23:11that come in

00:23:11time and time again

00:23:13and they're exposed

00:23:15to all of this

00:23:16and even more now

00:23:17with the internet.

00:23:18I mean, 2004, 2005,

00:23:20the internet was

00:23:20barely a thing.

00:23:22They didn't have

00:23:23access to all of this.

00:23:25So the importance

00:23:26for reform is huge.

00:23:27So it's twofold.

00:23:28We do need change

00:23:30to come, obviously,

00:23:31in a lot of ways.

00:23:32But I think Virginia's law

00:23:35is a great start

00:23:36for those of us,

00:23:38you know,

00:23:38I'm almost 40 now.

00:23:39I'm just coming to terms

00:23:40with my own abuse.

00:23:41Virginia led the way for me.

00:23:43So did Maria Farmer

00:23:44in a lot of ways.

00:23:46And side note,

00:23:47we still haven't found

00:23:48the other half

00:23:48of her 1996 report.

00:23:51So that is still out there.

00:23:53No one can access that.

00:23:54So we do need

00:23:55the release of the files.

00:23:56But, you know,

00:23:58I'm just coming to terms now

00:23:59with my own abuse

00:24:00at almost 40.

00:24:03And, you know,

00:24:04statute of limitations

00:24:05absolutely needs to change.

00:24:06There should be

00:24:06no time limit

00:24:08on trying to figure out

00:24:10what happened to you.

00:24:11A lot of the time,

00:24:12becoming a parent

00:24:13it changes you.

00:24:14It changed me.

00:24:15And I wasn't able

00:24:16to look at my life

00:24:19until I had my son

00:24:20and knew that I needed

00:24:21to change it for him.

00:24:22So that is the first thing.

00:24:24The second thing is

00:24:25I do believe

00:24:25that we need

00:24:26victims' rights advocates

00:24:28in rooms and spaces

00:24:30with young survivors.

00:24:31So thank you.

00:24:33Thank you, Danny.

00:24:35Thank you so much

00:24:36for your continued courage

00:24:37and sharing

00:24:38that very personal story

00:24:39and your call for action.

00:24:42So I really appreciate it.

00:24:44We now have so many

00:24:47of the most incredible leaders

00:24:50in women's rights

00:24:52and survivors' rights.

00:24:53And we've got

00:24:53incredible colleagues of mine.

00:24:56So maybe what we will do

00:24:57is we'll go have

00:24:59one of the leaders speak,

00:25:00one of my colleagues speak.

00:25:01And if everyone could just maybe

00:25:03try to keep to two minutes

00:25:05so that we can then

00:25:06have conversation after that.

00:25:08And I want to just thank

00:25:10Preeti on my team

00:25:11and Sarah on my team

00:25:11for having so many

00:25:13of the most incredible leaders

00:25:15here in this room.

00:25:16So maybe we will start, Kim,

00:25:18with you,

00:25:19with the National Now President.

00:25:21You need no introduction

00:25:23to the organization

00:25:23and appreciate your leadership

00:25:25and the work you're doing.

00:25:29Thank you, Congressman.

00:25:30I'm Kim Villanueva,

00:25:32President of the National

00:25:33Organization for Women,

00:25:34and I am so honored

00:25:35to be here today

00:25:36with the Survivor Sisters

00:25:37and members of Congress.

00:25:39The United States

00:25:40has spent more than two decades

00:25:42building a comprehensive

00:25:43legal framework

00:25:44to combat human trafficking

00:25:46and sexual exploitation,

00:25:48beginning with the

00:25:49Trafficking Victims Protection Act

00:25:51and strengthened

00:25:52through bipartisan reauthorizations.

00:25:54These laws are not the problem.

00:25:57They just aren't enough.

00:25:59The problem is that

00:26:00they are not consistently enforced

00:26:02and survivors are paying the price.

00:26:05Across this country,

00:26:06survivors still face

00:26:07unstable access to housing,

00:26:09health care,

00:26:10and legal support and advocacy.

00:26:12Cases stall.

00:26:14Restitution goes uncollected.

00:26:16Files go missing.

00:26:18And too often,

00:26:19accountability stops short

00:26:21when wealth or influence

00:26:22is involved.

00:26:24That's not a gap in statute.

00:26:26It's a failure of political will.

00:26:29Organizations like NOW

00:26:30and my sister organizations

00:26:32have long made it clear

00:26:33that trafficking

00:26:34and sexual violence

00:26:35are not isolated incidents.

00:26:38They are systemic abuses

00:26:39rooted in gender inequity,

00:26:42economic vulnerability,

00:26:43and power imbalances.

00:26:45If we ignore these conditions,

00:26:47we will continue to treat symptoms

00:26:49instead of causes.

00:26:50And we state without hesitation

00:26:53that we believe women.

00:26:55We believe survivors.

00:26:57We believe that those

00:26:59who come forward

00:27:00often at great personal risk

00:27:01to tell their truths,

00:27:03like Virginia,

00:27:04even when the powerful

00:27:05try to silence them.

00:27:07High-profile cases like Epstein

00:27:08did not expose a loophole.

00:27:10They exposed a pattern.

00:27:12Institutions failing to act,

00:27:15systems protecting the powerful

00:27:16and predators,

00:27:17and survivors left without recourse

00:27:19for years,

00:27:21sometimes decades.

00:27:23Congress has the authority

00:27:24to change this.

00:27:26That means removing barriers

00:27:27that prevent survivors

00:27:29from seeking justice,

00:27:30including outdated statutes

00:27:32of limitation,

00:27:33Virginia's law.

00:27:34It means enforcing restitution

00:27:36so that it's actually delivered.

00:27:39It means holding

00:27:40not just perpetrators,

00:27:41but the institution

00:27:42and industries

00:27:43that enable exploitation accountable.

00:27:46And it means guaranteeing

00:27:47stable, long-term funding

00:27:49for survivor services

00:27:51so that support

00:27:52does not depend

00:27:53on political cycles.

00:27:55To federal officials,

00:27:56we say the tools

00:27:58are already in your hand.

00:27:59The question is whether

00:28:00they will be used

00:28:01to their full extent.

00:28:03Survivors do not need

00:28:04more promises.

00:28:05They need enforcement,

00:28:07accountability,

00:28:08accountability, and action.

00:28:10Thank you, President Villanueva,

00:28:12for your incredible leadership

00:28:14and now's incredible leadership

00:28:15on these issues.

00:28:17And I want to recognize

00:28:20one of my colleagues,

00:28:21we'll have both of them

00:28:22speak,

00:28:23but one,

00:28:24Summer Lee,

00:28:25on oversight.

00:28:26You know,

00:28:27Representative Lee

00:28:29was the reason

00:28:30we have these oversight hearings

00:28:31because very early on

00:28:33she had a subpoena

00:28:36and somehow she got

00:28:37Republicans to vote

00:28:38for it as well.

00:28:40And that's what led

00:28:41to the oversight committee

00:28:43starting all of the investigation.

00:28:45So really an honor

00:28:46to have you here,

00:28:47Representative Lee.

00:28:49Thank you, Rep. Kanna,

00:28:50and thank you so much

00:28:50for convening us.

00:28:52I just want to say,

00:28:53and first of all,

00:28:54just taking a moment

00:28:56of acknowledgement

00:28:56to the just incredible bravery

00:28:58of the women,

00:29:00the survivors

00:29:00who have come forward,

00:29:02not just today,

00:29:03not just throughout

00:29:03this moment

00:29:05that we have been in,

00:29:06but unfortunately

00:29:07for year after year

00:29:08and also just wanted

00:29:09to recognize

00:29:09just the incredible

00:29:11enduring presence

00:29:12of Virginia

00:29:13on all of this work

00:29:15and so many more survivors

00:29:16who have stepped up

00:29:19in big and small ways,

00:29:20some who still will.

00:29:23And that is because

00:29:24of the work

00:29:24that you all have been doing

00:29:25and of course

00:29:26the support

00:29:27of the community

00:29:30who has consistently

00:29:33tried to move this forward

00:29:34from state houses

00:29:35to Congress.

00:29:36So I just wanted

00:29:36to just express

00:29:37our incredible gratitude

00:29:39to all of you all

00:29:40for this work.

00:29:40I just know

00:29:41and we all know

00:29:42that this has been

00:29:42incredibly difficult,

00:29:44right,

00:29:44especially as you all,

00:29:45some of you,

00:29:46have been up against

00:29:46some of the most powerful

00:29:48institutions,

00:29:49organizations,

00:29:50and people

00:29:51across the entire world.

00:29:53I think it's important

00:29:54that we take that moment

00:29:55to recognize

00:29:55how big that is.

00:29:57You all

00:29:58have been courageous

00:30:00and admirable

00:30:01throughout all of that

00:30:01and you shouldn't have to be

00:30:04but we thank you

00:30:04for using your voices.

00:30:05When we forced

00:30:06the subpoena

00:30:07for the Department of Justice

00:30:09to release the files

00:30:11back in August

00:30:12through the Federal Law

00:30:13Enforcement Subcommittee,

00:30:14that created

00:30:15the opportunity

00:30:16for the administration

00:30:17to do the right thing

00:30:19but that wouldn't

00:30:20have been possible

00:30:21if there wasn't

00:30:22already a movement

00:30:23of people

00:30:23of all political backgrounds

00:30:25who directed

00:30:25the American consciousness

00:30:27and the media attention

00:30:29towards this injustice.

00:30:31Your advocacy

00:30:32has exposed

00:30:33deep failures

00:30:36in our broken

00:30:37judicial system.

00:30:38It's pushed

00:30:39our country

00:30:40and our society

00:30:42to confront

00:30:42really deeply

00:30:43uncomfortable truths

00:30:46but because of you

00:30:47there is greater awareness

00:30:48and there's greater pressure

00:30:49and there's a greater momentum

00:30:51towards change

00:30:51and unlike so many other topics

00:30:53that we experience

00:30:55in this country,

00:30:56this is not a news cycle

00:30:57that has just gone away.

00:30:58No matter how much time

00:30:59has gone,

00:31:00this is not something

00:31:01that has just been

00:31:02blown away

00:31:03and I think that

00:31:03while there are so many people

00:31:04who would love for this

00:31:05to one day

00:31:06just be pushed under the rug

00:31:07or one day

00:31:08for this to just pass by,

00:31:09we know that the work

00:31:10that is going to happen

00:31:12in this case

00:31:13won't just result in justice

00:31:15for the thousands

00:31:16of survivors

00:31:19of Epstein

00:31:20or past abusers,

00:31:21it will make sure

00:31:22that we have fewer survivors

00:31:23moving forward

00:31:24which is our ultimate goal.

00:31:26The systemic failures

00:31:27that we see

00:31:28within our Department of Justice,

00:31:30within our United States government,

00:31:32within so many different layers,

00:31:33the reason why

00:31:34this is such an important case

00:31:35is because it will give us

00:31:36an opportunity

00:31:37to finally confront them

00:31:38and say that

00:31:38we need to build

00:31:40a better system

00:31:41moving forward.

00:31:41We need to ensure

00:31:43that we are creating

00:31:43the mechanisms

00:31:44that no survivor

00:31:46would ever be unsafe

00:31:47when they come forward,

00:31:49that they would never

00:31:49be cast aside

00:31:51but also that the system itself

00:31:52would no longer

00:31:53circle the wagons

00:31:54around each other,

00:31:55that these systems

00:31:56will be accountable

00:31:57and not just accountable

00:31:58for the immediate action

00:31:59but what our hope is

00:32:01is that we can create

00:32:02some accountability

00:32:02that we build better systems

00:32:04moving forward,

00:32:05that our institutions

00:32:07fundamentally

00:32:07and transformationally change,

00:32:09that we have a government

00:32:11that could ever allow someone

00:32:13because of how wealthy they are,

00:32:14well-connected,

00:32:15that they would be more protected

00:32:17than anybody else

00:32:18and the people

00:32:19who they have perpetuated harm against

00:32:20is a foundational problem.

00:32:23So I am committed

00:32:25and I know that so many of us are,

00:32:26we are committed

00:32:27to seeing this one through,

00:32:29to not shutting up about this one,

00:32:30to not letting us off the hook.

00:32:34So I am sorry that you have had

00:32:36to be more patient

00:32:36than anyone should have to be.

00:32:38I am sorry that you all

00:32:38have had to show up

00:32:40more times than anyone

00:32:41should have to

00:32:41but we hope that with this,

00:32:43this moves us into a new era

00:32:46and we know that one way or another

00:32:48we are going to fight for it anyway

00:32:49so I just wanted to thank you all

00:32:50so much for inviting me today

00:32:51for allowing us to listen to you,

00:32:52to your stories

00:32:53and understand your work more.

00:32:55Thank you, representative Lee,

00:32:57for that very powerful statement.

00:32:59We'll continue to alternate

00:33:00between the members

00:33:02who have taken time

00:33:02out of their busy schedules

00:33:03to be here

00:33:04and our incredible leaders

00:33:07from the women's rights

00:33:08and survivor rights community.

00:33:10With that,

00:33:11let me give two minutes

00:33:13to board member Chakraborty,

00:33:15board member of Women's March

00:33:17and has done so much

00:33:18incredible organizing.

00:33:21Good morning, everyone.

00:33:22It's great to be in this room

00:33:24with all of you

00:33:24and thank you,

00:33:25Representative Khanna,

00:33:26for convening us here today.

00:33:28I'm Rinalini Chakraborty.

00:33:30I'm an advocate and organizer

00:33:31for reproductive justice

00:33:32and gender justice

00:33:33and 20 years ago,

00:33:35I entered the fight

00:33:37fighting for sex workers' rights

00:33:39and against human trafficking

00:33:40back home in India

00:33:41and I'm here today

00:33:43representing the Women's March

00:33:44as one of the national board members.

00:33:46At Women's March,

00:33:47our primary goal

00:33:49in advocating

00:33:49against human trafficking

00:33:50and sexual violence

00:33:53has always been

00:33:54to center the impact

00:33:56on survivors.

00:33:57We've sent tens of thousands

00:33:58of letters to Congress

00:34:00in support of Representative Khanna's

00:34:02Epstein Files Transparency Act,

00:34:04demanding the full release

00:34:05of those files

00:34:06and accountability

00:34:07for the perpetrators

00:34:08within them.

00:34:09Over the last year,

00:34:11we funded billboards

00:34:12to build awareness,

00:34:13organized vigils,

00:34:14escalated protest actions

00:34:16across the globe

00:34:19and activated

00:34:20and mobilized thousands

00:34:21of activists

00:34:22on this issue.

00:34:24We organized 3,000 people

00:34:26to show up

00:34:26at the gates

00:34:27of Epstein's Zorro Ranch

00:34:29to demand an investigation

00:34:30and to remember

00:34:32the women and girls

00:34:32that were harmed

00:34:33within its gates.

00:34:35And following these demands,

00:34:36the New Mexico Department of Justice

00:34:38was pressured

00:34:39to search

00:34:39those desecrated grounds.

00:34:41We partnered

00:34:42with the family

00:34:43of Virginia Giuffre

00:34:44both to join us

00:34:45at Zorro Ranch

00:34:46and to host a vigil

00:34:47in her memory

00:34:48just this past weekend

00:34:49that had over 700 attendees

00:34:52in person and online.

00:34:54The Women's March movement

00:34:57grew out of public outcry

00:34:59that Trump,

00:35:00a known predator

00:35:01and proud misogynist,

00:35:03was elected

00:35:03to the highest office

00:35:05in this country.

00:35:06We knew then

00:35:07that his rhetoric

00:35:08would set a tone

00:35:09for the nation

00:35:09and we knew

00:35:10that his authoritarian tendencies

00:35:12would only escalate

00:35:13as they have,

00:35:14as we've seen

00:35:15in his second term.

00:35:16At every turn since then,

00:35:18as we've demanded

00:35:19justice for survivors

00:35:20and drawn attention

00:35:21to feminist issues,

00:35:23we've been told

00:35:24to sit down and wait,

00:35:25sometimes from those

00:35:27who are meant

00:35:27to be on our side.

00:35:29In good times,

00:35:30contempt for women

00:35:31and feminist issues

00:35:32is an ongoing challenge,

00:35:34but in the face

00:35:35of rising fascism,

00:35:37women's rights

00:35:37are summarily dismissed

00:35:39and often called

00:35:40a distraction.

00:35:41But we know

00:35:42that misogyny,

00:35:43oppressive gender roles

00:35:44and attacks

00:35:45on bodily autonomy

00:35:46are a key component

00:35:48of authoritarian movements.

00:35:49And at the same time

00:35:51that there is backlash

00:35:52against feminist progress,

00:35:54there is also

00:35:55an escalation

00:35:56of human rights crises,

00:35:57the destruction

00:35:58of democracy

00:35:59and a rise

00:36:00in authoritarianism

00:36:01across the world.

00:36:02We cannot address

00:36:03these issues

00:36:04in isolation.

00:36:05They are intrinsically

00:36:06connected.

00:36:07And we cannot abandon

00:36:08the fight

00:36:09for gender justice,

00:36:10the fight

00:36:10against gender-based violence

00:36:12just because we have

00:36:13multiple other fights

00:36:14in front of us.

00:36:15So our urgent call

00:36:16to action right now

00:36:17for Congress,

00:36:19from the press,

00:36:20for everyday people

00:36:21is that we make

00:36:22these connections,

00:36:23that we understand

00:36:24that misogyny

00:36:25and fascism

00:36:26are both on the rise,

00:36:27that we always center

00:36:29survivors and ensure

00:36:30that their voices

00:36:31are heard,

00:36:32and that we keep

00:36:33fighting for a world

00:36:34where every perpetrator

00:36:36of sexual violence

00:36:37is terrified

00:36:37of the consequences

00:36:38of their actions.

00:36:40Thank you for that

00:36:43very powerful statement,

00:36:45Board Member Chakrabarty.

00:36:46I now want to recognize

00:36:48Representative Stansbury.

00:36:50Representative Stansbury

00:36:51has been just such

00:36:52an incredible advocate

00:36:53on the Oversight Committee

00:36:55and reading all the files

00:36:57and standing with survivors.

00:36:58Thank you for joining us.

00:37:00And just I'm honored

00:37:02to be amongst you all

00:37:03and to stand with you

00:37:05in the fight.

00:37:05And I know this weekend

00:37:07was the memorial

00:37:08of your sister's passing

00:37:09and I know all of us are,

00:37:12I'm sorry,

00:37:13it's a hard week.

00:37:16And so I can feel

00:37:18the presence of Virginia

00:37:20here in this room.

00:37:22I think the one thing

00:37:23I just want to share

00:37:24is that the stories

00:37:26of all of the survivors

00:37:28and the advocates

00:37:29who are doing this work

00:37:31is changing the world.

00:37:32and I just want

00:37:34to lift up the words.

00:37:36I think Congresswoman Lee

00:37:37already said everything

00:37:38that could be said

00:37:41and in such a powerful way.

00:37:45You know,

00:37:46I was reflecting

00:37:46as you were talking

00:37:47about this being

00:37:48a foundational problem.

00:37:49We're celebrating

00:37:50the 250th anniversary

00:37:52of this nation's founding

00:37:54and there's nothing

00:37:55more foundationally problematic

00:37:56about our country

00:37:57than the fact that

00:37:59at its founding

00:38:00the vast majority

00:38:02of Americans

00:38:02couldn't participate.

00:38:05And part of the arc

00:38:07of history

00:38:08of this country

00:38:09is seeking equality,

00:38:11equity, justice,

00:38:12and to move that arc

00:38:15towards greater participation

00:38:18in democracy.

00:38:19And I believe

00:38:20that the work

00:38:21that you all are doing

00:38:22is not just standing up

00:38:23against sexual violence

00:38:25and exploitation

00:38:26but actually moving

00:38:27this country

00:38:28and our world forward

00:38:29as we move

00:38:30into the next chapter.

00:38:31That we're not going

00:38:33to stand

00:38:34not just with a president

00:38:36and an administration

00:38:37that is continuing

00:38:38to engage

00:38:39in abusive behavior

00:38:41and cover up

00:38:42sexual exploitation

00:38:43but that as women

00:38:45we are not going

00:38:46to allow our society

00:38:48to not face

00:38:49these inconvenient truths

00:38:51and that as a society

00:38:53we're going to continue

00:38:54to push forward

00:38:55and I'll just add

00:38:57I do have some

00:38:58more formal remarks

00:39:00but I want to hear

00:39:01about what we can do

00:39:02to change the system

00:39:03from all of you

00:39:04that I travel

00:39:06all over the country

00:39:07and I'm sure all of us

00:39:08have this experience.

00:39:10Every single day

00:39:11I get stopped

00:39:12on the street,

00:39:13I get stopped

00:39:14at the grocery store,

00:39:15I get stopped

00:39:17just going about

00:39:18my life

00:39:19from people

00:39:20you would not

00:39:21even imagine

00:39:22who pull me aside

00:39:23who say

00:39:24I'm a survivor.

00:39:26Local leaders,

00:39:28elected officials,

00:39:29donors,

00:39:30people you would

00:39:31never expect

00:39:32and so even though

00:39:33the institution itself

00:39:35has a foundational problem,

00:39:37even though

00:39:37this institution

00:39:38and the federal government

00:39:40are failing to act

00:39:41and have failed to act

00:39:42since the beginning

00:39:43of when many of you

00:39:44first told your stories,

00:39:46I want you to know

00:39:47that your stories

00:39:48are changing the world

00:39:49and there are literally

00:39:51millions of survivors

00:39:52out there

00:39:52who are hearing

00:39:53and seeing

00:39:54what you are doing

00:39:55and it's changing them

00:39:58and so please continue

00:39:59to tell your stories,

00:40:01continue to demand

00:40:02accountability

00:40:02and we're just so grateful

00:40:04for all the work

00:40:05that you guys are doing

00:40:06so thank you.

00:40:07Thank you,

00:40:08Representative Sandsbury.

00:40:09Now we'll hear

00:40:10from Ms. Dahlia Locke.

00:40:12Thank you for your leadership

00:40:14with World Without Exploitation

00:40:15to prevent sexual exploitation

00:40:17of young people.

00:40:19Thank you,

00:40:19Congressman Kama,

00:40:20for convening this round

00:40:21to the board.

00:40:22Thank you,

00:40:22Congresswoman,

00:40:23Lee,

00:40:23Diapol,

00:40:24Wendip Hernandez

00:40:25and Sandsbury

00:40:25for your leadership.

00:40:27My name is Dahlia Eddin-Locke

00:40:29and I'm the policy

00:40:29and education manager

00:40:30at World Without Exploitation,

00:40:32a national coalition

00:40:33of nearly 200 organizations

00:40:35committed to ending

00:40:36sex trafficking.

00:40:37When a survivor of Epstein

00:40:38who had completed

00:40:39our advocacy training program

00:40:41came to us this past summer

00:40:42and shared her deep frustration

00:40:44with the federal government's

00:40:45mishandling and concealment

00:40:47of the Epstein case,

00:40:48it became clear

00:40:49that her experience

00:40:49was not isolated.

00:40:51It echoed the broader failures

00:40:53of accountability

00:40:53and justice

00:40:54faced by survivors

00:40:55of sex trafficking

00:40:56and sexual exploitation

00:40:57across the United States

00:40:58every day.

00:41:00That clarity

00:41:00pushed us forward

00:41:01and our rally

00:41:02on Capitol Hill

00:41:03calling for the release

00:41:04of the Epstein files

00:41:05helped drive the passage

00:41:06of the Epstein files

00:41:07Transparency Act,

00:41:08a feat made possible

00:41:10only by the persistence

00:41:11and leadership

00:41:12from survivors

00:41:14like the incredible women

00:41:15who spoke before me.

00:41:17Working with Sky

00:41:18and Amanda

00:41:19and others,

00:41:20our team,

00:41:20namely my colleague

00:41:21Bella Paraki

00:41:22who's here today,

00:41:23helped introduce

00:41:24Virginia's Law

00:41:25to eliminate

00:41:25the statute of limitations

00:41:26for federal civil claims

00:41:28by adult survivors.

00:41:30Our team is also

00:41:31advancing a cause

00:41:32of action bill

00:41:32with Representatives

00:41:33Kanna and Jayapal

00:41:34so survivors can seek

00:41:36redress for government

00:41:36failures to protect them

00:41:38during the file release

00:41:39and pressing for full

00:41:40implementation

00:41:41of the Trafficking Survivors

00:41:42Relief Act

00:41:43passed in January

00:41:43so the wrongful convictions

00:41:45of survivors

00:41:46can be vacated.

00:41:47Justice must also meet

00:41:49this digital moment.

00:41:51Exploitation now

00:41:52mostly happens online

00:41:54and young people,

00:41:55especially girls,

00:41:56are uniquely at risk.

00:41:57Image-based sexual abuse

00:41:59has become normalized

00:42:00as their explicit images,

00:42:02real and fake,

00:42:04are passed around schools,

00:42:05shared in group chats,

00:42:06and posted to pornography sites.

00:42:09They internalize the message

00:42:10that their bodies

00:42:11are currency

00:42:12and their worth

00:42:13lies in their mass consumption.

00:42:16Sex traffickers,

00:42:17buyers,

00:42:18exploiters,

00:42:18abuse this erosion

00:42:20of consent

00:42:20and boundaries

00:42:21to exploit young people online.

00:42:24Now,

00:42:25more prone than ever

00:42:26to mistake grooming

00:42:27for flattery.

00:42:29Legislation can deliver justice,

00:42:31but it also has

00:42:31the power to shift norms.

00:42:33The Kids Online Safety Act,

00:42:34the Stop CSAM Act,

00:42:35and the Defiance Act

00:42:36are essential.

00:42:37They require platforms

00:42:38to prioritize safety over profit,

00:42:41prevent and remove

00:42:41child sexual abuse material,

00:42:43and empower survivors

00:42:44to hold perpetrators accountable.

00:42:46Finally,

00:42:47justice requires confronting

00:42:49the core of sex trafficking,

00:42:51the demand.

00:42:52The forthcoming

00:42:53Sex Trafficking Demand Reduction Act

00:42:55recognizes what research shows.

00:42:58Trafficking is fueled primarily

00:43:00by the demand for paid sex

00:43:02created by sex buyers,

00:43:04often white men

00:43:05with a disposable income.

00:43:07No buyers,

00:43:08no business.

00:43:09This bill would incorporate

00:43:10demand reduction

00:43:11into the State Department's

00:43:12TIP Report,

00:43:13closing a critical gap

00:43:15in evaluation

00:43:16and driving global policy change.

00:43:18The powerful men

00:43:19in Epstein's circle,

00:43:20who we have come to call

00:43:21co-conspirators

00:43:22or associates,

00:43:24were sex buyers

00:43:25who used their

00:43:26socioeconomic privilege

00:43:28to purchase access

00:43:29to vulnerable women and girls.

00:43:31This inherently unequal

00:43:33power dynamic

00:43:33at the crux

00:43:34of the prostitution system

00:43:36is why sex trafficking

00:43:38exists and persists today.

00:43:40If you take one thing away

00:43:41from what I say,

00:43:43please remember this.

00:43:44I know there are calls

00:43:45to fully decriminalize

00:43:46prostitution,

00:43:47including sex buying,

00:43:49pimping,

00:43:49and brothel owning.

00:43:50I ask,

00:43:52how in this moment

00:43:53of reckoning

00:43:53where the Epstein case

00:43:55had laid bare,

00:43:56how crucial buyers are

00:43:57to this system,

00:43:58can we look survivors

00:44:00in the eye

00:44:00and say,

00:44:02the men who exploited you,

00:44:04preyed on your insecurities,

00:44:06fetishized your race

00:44:07and sexuality,

00:44:08stalked you outside

00:44:09of foster homes,

00:44:10exploited your immigration

00:44:11status against you,

00:44:13they will be met

00:44:13with impunity?

00:44:15Sex buyers must be

00:44:16investigated

00:44:17and held responsible

00:44:18in the Epstein case

00:44:19and beyond.

00:44:20These measures move

00:44:21towards a powerful

00:44:22federal framework

00:44:23that prevents exploitation,

00:44:24holds buyers

00:44:25and exploiters accountable

00:44:26and ensures survivors

00:44:28can access meaningful justice.

00:44:30But it is just the beginning

00:44:31of what we can

00:44:32and must do together.

00:44:35Thank you, Ms. Lott,

00:44:36for those very powerful words.

00:44:38Now I want to recognize

00:44:39Representative Fernandez.

00:44:41Representative Fernandez

00:44:42is the chair

00:44:42of the Women's Caucus

00:44:44and played an incredibly

00:44:46critical role

00:44:47in getting the Epstein files passed.

00:44:49Thank you, Representative McConaughey,

00:44:51and thank you

00:44:52to the survivors

00:44:53and advocates.

00:44:54I feel like we've become

00:44:55part of a close

00:44:56extended familia, right?

00:44:58And I've told you

00:45:00over and again,

00:45:00I think you are

00:45:01some of the most courageous

00:45:03and impactful

00:45:04women of our generation

00:45:06because you refused

00:45:07to let the rich

00:45:09and powerful silence you

00:45:11and your refusal

00:45:13to be silenced

00:45:14by the rich and powerful

00:45:16has inspired a nation

00:45:18because we are sick

00:45:18and tired

00:45:19of the rich and powerful

00:45:21controlling our lives.

00:45:23And a very rich

00:45:24and powerful person

00:45:25is going to speak

00:45:25to the joint session

00:45:27of Congress

00:45:28and he refused

00:45:29to speak to you.

00:45:30But you didn't bow down,

00:45:34right?

00:45:34And I thank you

00:45:36for organizing this

00:45:37and coming to this.

00:45:38And Attorney General

00:45:39acting,

00:45:40we don't ever really want

00:45:42him to be Attorney General,

00:45:43because he said

00:45:44the open quote,

00:45:45the DOJ has now released

00:45:46all the files

00:45:47with respect

00:45:48to the Epstein saga.

00:45:50How dare we call it

00:45:51a saga?

00:45:52And he said

00:45:53that the Epstein files,

00:45:54open quote,

00:45:55should not be part

00:45:56of anything going forward,

00:45:58close quote.

00:45:59Sorry, Mr. Blanche,

00:46:00that's not the law.

00:46:02The law, thank you,

00:46:04the Epstein files

00:46:06transparency act

00:46:06says that the Department

00:46:07of Justice most released

00:46:09all the files

00:46:10about Jeffrey Epstein

00:46:12and his buyers,

00:46:13and we know

00:46:15there are about

00:46:15three million not released,

00:46:17and we will enforce the law.

00:46:20In collaboration

00:46:20with the survivors,

00:46:22the DWC sent a letter

00:46:23in January demanding

00:46:24an investigation

00:46:25into the Department

00:46:26of Justice's

00:46:27mishandling,

00:46:28and last week,

00:46:30the Inspector General

00:46:32said we will conduct

00:46:34an audit, right?

00:46:36Yesterday, we solved

00:46:38the lawsuit saying

00:46:42we need to investigate.

00:46:44Why have you not

00:46:45been doing this?

00:46:47And we also know

00:46:49that me and different

00:46:50people around this table

00:46:52are looking at legislation.

00:46:55We will be introducing bills

00:46:56to provide a right to sue

00:47:00for failure to carry out

00:47:04the act.

00:47:07And in memory of your sister

00:47:10and highlighting her words

00:47:13in that book,

00:47:13we have Virginia's law,

00:47:15which I'm so pleased

00:47:17to introduce with you

00:47:19and stand with you

00:47:21as we move forward

00:47:22because there should be

00:47:24no deadline.

00:47:26There should be no clock

00:47:27that rings and alarms

00:47:29and says,

00:47:30sorry,

00:47:30you're out of time.

00:47:31Justice should not

00:47:32have an end date.

00:47:34And in New Mexico,

00:47:35we're so proud

00:47:36of what we're doing

00:47:37in Zorro Ranch.

00:47:38We've been there together,

00:47:39right?

00:47:39Because the Truth Commission

00:47:40and the Attorney General

00:47:42is willing to investigate

00:47:44and prosecute as necessary.

00:47:46So, Mr. Blanche,

00:47:48you can do something.

00:47:49Justice can prevail,

00:47:52but only if you're willing

00:47:54to do it.

00:47:55And what we are seeing

00:47:56by the rich and powerful

00:47:57in this administration

00:47:58is they're not willing

00:47:59to do it

00:47:59because Trump

00:48:00and members

00:48:02of his cabinet

00:48:03are implicated.

00:48:04And we will not

00:48:06stop saying that.

00:48:07We will not

00:48:08stop working

00:48:10towards a process

00:48:11where the rich

00:48:12and powerful

00:48:12don't continue

00:48:14to say,

00:48:15you will have no voice.

00:48:17I mean,

00:48:17one of the things

00:48:17that has stuck with me

00:48:19since our very first meeting

00:48:20where together

00:48:22we cried so much

00:48:23around the table

00:48:24with the members

00:48:25of the Women's Caucus

00:48:26and he said

00:48:27that he told you,

00:48:29I have the banks

00:48:30I have the government,

00:48:32you have no voice.

00:48:35You are proving him wrong

00:48:38and we will stand by you

00:48:40because your voice

00:48:42is so powerful

00:48:44and you are absolutely correct.

00:48:47Courage is contagious.

00:48:49Muchísimas gracias

00:48:50for everything you do.

00:48:51Thank you so much.

00:48:52Thank you,

00:48:53Representative Fernandez.

00:48:55Now we will hear

00:48:56from Ms. Arisha Hatch

00:48:58who is the Executive Director

00:49:00of Ultraviolet,

00:49:02a gender justice organization.

00:49:03Thank you for your leadership.

00:49:05Thank you so much

00:49:05for having me here today.

00:49:07As was just mentioned,

00:49:08my name is Arisha Hatch

00:49:09and I'm the new Executive Director

00:49:11of Ultraviolet,

00:49:12a national women-led

00:49:13gender justice organization.

00:49:16Since Ultraviolet was founded,

00:49:18more than 28 million actions

00:49:19have been taken

00:49:20by millions of people

00:49:22demanding a response

00:49:23to the everyday sexism

00:49:25and misogyny

00:49:26that women face

00:49:27at the workplace,

00:49:29in the doctorís office,

00:49:30in our homes and online.

00:49:32Over time,

00:49:33we've built a constituency base

00:49:34of thousands of survivors

00:49:36and millions of allies

00:49:37who have worked

00:49:39to hold abusers accountable

00:49:40and create a cost for sexism,

00:49:42from Bill O'Reilly,

00:49:44R. Kelly,

00:49:45to Harvey Weinstein,

00:49:46Andrew Tate,

00:49:47and many, many others.

00:49:49In this instance,

00:49:50our members have called

00:49:51for the release

00:49:52of all Epstein files.

00:49:53We've made phone calls

00:49:54to our representatives.

00:49:55We've signed petitions.

00:49:57They've donated flowers

00:49:58to memorial services

00:50:01to support these survivors.

00:50:04I was thinking

00:50:05on the drive over today

00:50:07that while the things

00:50:09that I have had to survive

00:50:10or get over in my life

00:50:12pale in comparison

00:50:14to what these survivors

00:50:16have endured,

00:50:16I couldn't help but think

00:50:18about my own adolescence

00:50:19and how early young girls

00:50:22are taught

00:50:23that we must protect ourselves

00:50:25from sexual abuse.

00:50:27In high school,

00:50:28there were rumors

00:50:28of a popular R&B singer

00:50:30who liked young girls.

00:50:32He parked outside

00:50:33of local high schools

00:50:34in a neighboring school district

00:50:36next to ice cream trucks

00:50:38and school buses.

00:50:39Bootleg videos were passed around

00:50:41of his abuse

00:50:42before the Internet.

00:50:44It was an open secret,

00:50:45an urban legend

00:50:47we told ourselves,

00:50:48just girls gossip.

00:50:50It would take two decades

00:50:52to successfully prosecute him.

00:50:54I didn't have the words

00:50:55to describe it at the time,

00:50:57but before I had

00:50:58my learner's permit,

00:51:00I understood

00:51:01what a whisper network was.

00:51:02We all did.

00:51:04And we were taught

00:51:05a lot of rules

00:51:06by this whisper network.

00:51:07Don't wear that.

00:51:08Don't walk down

00:51:09that street alone.

00:51:10Don't travel alone.

00:51:11Be careful of that pastor

00:51:13or that assistant coach.

00:51:16By my first week

00:51:18of college

00:51:18my freshman year,

00:51:20I knew what frat houses

00:51:21to avoid,

00:51:22what athletes secretly

00:51:25videotape girls

00:51:26in their dorm rooms,

00:51:27what professors to avoid.

00:51:29These whisper networks

00:51:31that we created

00:51:32were all we had

00:51:33to protect ourselves

00:51:34and our families,

00:51:35and they exist

00:51:36across every industry.

00:51:39Even in the last few weeks

00:51:41we've learned about

00:51:42candidates and elected officials

00:51:43across parties,

00:51:45social justice movement leaders.

00:51:47We've learned about

00:51:48online rape academy networks,

00:51:50tech companies

00:51:51building and monetizing

00:51:53AI tools

00:51:53that undress women

00:51:54and children

00:51:55without any real consequence.

00:51:58The challenges

00:51:59before us are great,

00:52:01especially in this Epstein case,

00:52:03ranging from

00:52:04the sheer volume

00:52:05of documents released,

00:52:07the volume of names named,

00:52:10and still a continued

00:52:11lack of transparency.

00:52:13Many of us fear

00:52:15that we haven't seen

00:52:16the worst of the worst.

00:52:19The moment that we are in

00:52:21will call for a level

00:52:22of discipline and focus,

00:52:24but we demand

00:52:25that each one

00:52:26be investigated,

00:52:28that there is justice

00:52:29and accountability

00:52:29for the survivors,

00:52:31and that there are policies

00:52:32that would shift a culture

00:52:34that would force

00:52:35every woman and child

00:52:36to grow up in a culture

00:52:38where we are forced

00:52:40to protect ourselves.

00:52:42Thank you,

00:52:43Director Hatch.

00:52:44Appreciate your testimony.

00:52:47Now I'd like to introduce

00:52:48Representative Jayapal,

00:52:51a huge leader

00:52:52on human rights,

00:52:53women's rights,

00:52:53was the chair

00:52:54of the Progressive Caucus,

00:52:55and has also played

00:52:56just an instrumental role

00:52:57in getting the Epstein

00:52:58files released.

00:52:59Thank you so much,

00:53:01Representative Khanna,

00:53:02for your incredible leadership,

00:53:03along with Representative Massey,

00:53:05on moving the Epstein

00:53:07Transparency Act forward,

00:53:08and on all the work

00:53:10that you've been doing

00:53:11to not let it go.

00:53:12We really appreciate it.

00:53:14And also I want to say

00:53:16thank you to all

00:53:17of the survivors

00:53:18and relatives

00:53:19in the room,

00:53:21Skye and Amanda,

00:53:22thank you for bringing

00:53:23Virginia's powerful voice

00:53:25into every room

00:53:26that we're in.

00:53:27It matters so much.

00:53:29Danny and Charlene,

00:53:31I watch you guys on TV

00:53:32and it just makes me

00:53:33so filled with pride

00:53:35that I have to text you

00:53:36and let you know

00:53:37that I saw it

00:53:38and that it was amazing.

00:53:40Marika,

00:53:41thank you for all the work.

00:53:42Marika is a constituent of mine

00:53:44and was my guest

00:53:45at State of the Union

00:53:46and has been really powerful

00:53:48both in her own story,

00:53:50of course,

00:53:51of surviving the Epstein trauma,

00:53:54but also in helping me

00:53:56to find information

00:53:58in the files.

00:53:59She is like our data broker,

00:54:01data provider

00:54:02for all the things

00:54:04that are in the files.

00:54:04So I'm very, very grateful

00:54:06to all of you.

00:54:08You know,

00:54:09I think that it's difficult

00:54:10to really capture the effect

00:54:13that you all have had

00:54:14on the world.

00:54:15And when we hear

00:54:17about survivors

00:54:18coming forward

00:54:19in other cases,

00:54:20including with Cesar Chavez

00:54:21and others,

00:54:22what I hear from them

00:54:24is they saw you.

00:54:26And they saw many of us

00:54:28fighting for you,

00:54:29all the advocates in the room

00:54:31that have been fighting

00:54:31on this issue for decades,

00:54:33not just at this moment,

00:54:34but for decades.

00:54:35And they felt like

00:54:36there was a possibility

00:54:38for them to also get justice,

00:54:40to demand accountability,

00:54:41that they weren't alone

00:54:43in that fight.

00:54:44And so I can't tell you

00:54:46how important

00:54:47your work has been

00:54:48and our work collectively

00:54:49is together

00:54:50to continue

00:54:51to refuse to let this go.

00:54:53Probably the most powerful image

00:54:56that captures all of this

00:54:57was when we had Pam Bondi

00:55:00in the judiciary hearing,

00:55:02and she had a chance

00:55:04to turn around

00:55:05and apologize to you.

00:55:07And while you were standing there

00:55:09right behind her,

00:55:10she refused to do that

00:55:12and looked away.

00:55:13But you all stood tall.

00:55:15And you all demanded

00:55:17that you were not going to be

00:55:18left behind

00:55:19or told to shut up

00:55:20or sit down.

00:55:21Following that,

00:55:22this isn't very public,

00:55:23but I got a call

00:55:24from then Attorney General Bondi

00:55:27and the assistant

00:55:29now acting Attorney General,

00:55:31Todd Blanche.

00:55:32And they asked me

00:55:33to come in

00:55:34and meet with them.

00:55:34I did with a whole list

00:55:36of demands.

00:55:38It was over an hour meeting.

00:55:41And what I can tell you

00:55:43is I was disgusted

00:55:44by the hypocrisy

00:55:45of how they were continuing

00:55:47to cover up.

00:55:48And I think I say that

00:55:50only to say

00:55:52that we still have

00:55:53an uphill battle

00:55:54ahead of us.

00:55:55We have a battle

00:55:57to make sure

00:55:57that this doesn't get put aside.

00:55:59And we need to look

00:56:00at all the legal options.

00:56:02Very proud to be introducing

00:56:03a bill with Representative Kanna

00:56:05and others

00:56:06around a private right of action.

00:56:08Very proud to be supporting

00:56:10Virginia's law.

00:56:11All of the things

00:56:12that are in front of us.

00:56:12At the end of the day,

00:56:14this is also going to be

00:56:15a public battle.

00:56:16This is going to be a battle

00:56:18not to win the hearts

00:56:20and minds

00:56:20of the American people

00:56:21because we've already

00:56:22won that.

00:56:23We have won that.

00:56:24And you can see it

00:56:25with the polling.

00:56:26You can see it

00:56:26with the people

00:56:27that come up to us.

00:56:28You can see it

00:56:29with the people

00:56:29who are not survivors

00:56:30but say,

00:56:31please keep fighting on this.

00:56:34But to demand accountability

00:56:36is going to be

00:56:37an uphill battle

00:56:38with this acting

00:56:39Attorney General,

00:56:40with this administration,

00:56:41and with all of the people

00:56:43who are complicit in this.

00:56:45And so I really just want

00:56:47to say again,

00:56:48thank you to all of you

00:56:50for not giving it up.

00:56:51It is traumatic,

00:56:52I know,

00:56:53to relive it over and over again.

00:56:54And I've talked to you

00:56:56about how that is

00:56:57and what it means

00:56:58to tell your story

00:56:59and to be questioned

00:56:59and to be challenged.

00:57:01And for the advocates

00:57:02who are doing this work

00:57:04every day,

00:57:05day in and day out,

00:57:06and dealing with survivors

00:57:08on so many levels

00:57:09and so many levels

00:57:11up and down

00:57:12through the institutional system

00:57:13but also across the breadth

00:57:14and depth of our society,

00:57:15it is really important

00:57:17that we continue

00:57:19to uplift your work

00:57:20to change the culture.

00:57:22This is a culture fight

00:57:24as much as anything.

00:57:25You read through

00:57:25those Epstein files,

00:57:26you see how people

00:57:27treated and talked

00:57:29about women,

00:57:30co-conspirators,

00:57:31I like to call them predators

00:57:32and pedophiles.

00:57:34You know,

00:57:34the people that enabled

00:57:36this to happen,

00:57:37we have to bring

00:57:38all of those people

00:57:40to justice.

00:57:40And so I stand ready

00:57:41to do that work with you

00:57:43and to continue

00:57:44to lift up

00:57:46all the different ways

00:57:47in which we in Congress

00:57:49have to do the work

00:57:49but also we

00:57:51as public representatives,

00:57:54elected representatives

00:57:55of constituents

00:57:56across the country

00:57:57who have been watching this

00:57:58and who are with you,

00:58:00with us on this,

00:58:01that we do not let up.

00:58:03So thank you all so much

00:58:04for what you're doing.

00:58:06Thank you, Representative Kana,

00:58:07for just continuing

00:58:09to refuse to back down

00:58:10and for making it bipartisan

00:58:12because guess what?

00:58:13It is bipartisan

00:58:13and it should be.

00:58:15Anyway, it should be.

00:58:16So thank you again

00:58:17for having me

00:58:18and I look forward

00:58:18to the rest of the round table.

00:58:20Thank you, Representative Jepal,

00:58:21for your words

00:58:21and your incredible leadership.

00:58:24Executive Director of Wafa,

00:58:26Executive Director

00:58:27of Rights for Girls,

00:58:28which is an organization

00:58:29standing up for young women,

00:58:31not just in the United States

00:58:32but worldwide.

00:58:33If you could share your thoughts.

00:58:35Thank you so much.

00:58:36I'm Yasmin Wafa.

00:58:37I'm the co-founder

00:58:37and Executive Director

00:58:38of Rights for Girls

00:58:39based here in Washington, D.C.

00:58:41It's a real privilege

00:58:42to be with all of you.

00:58:43Rights for Girls

00:58:44is a national organization

00:58:45and we work to defend

00:58:47the rights of young women

00:58:48and girls actually here

00:58:49in the United States.

00:58:50We're probably best known

00:58:51for our work

00:58:53to dismantle

00:58:54the abuse-to-prison pipeline.

00:58:55We work at the intersections

00:58:56of race, gender,

00:58:58violence, and criminalization.

00:59:00We are mostly concerned

00:59:02with the unjust criminalization

00:59:03of survivors

00:59:04of sexual violence

00:59:06and particularly survivors

00:59:08of sexual exploitation,

00:59:09prostitution, and trafficking.

00:59:11And what we mostly talk about

00:59:14is the fact

00:59:15that so many survivors

00:59:16of sexual violence

00:59:18and sexual exploitation

00:59:19are unjustly criminalized

00:59:21for their exploitation

00:59:22and their victimization

00:59:23while too often

00:59:24their exploiters,

00:59:25their abusers,

00:59:26enjoy impunity

00:59:28and anonymity

00:59:29and particularly

00:59:30the subject of today's conversation

00:59:32that includes sex buyers

00:59:34or what many survivors

00:59:35we work with

00:59:36call commercial sex offenders.

00:59:38And so we have talked

00:59:39at length about this issue

00:59:41and I'm so glad

00:59:42it's come up

00:59:43multiple times today

00:59:44but we have shared

00:59:46this report

00:59:46with many of you here today.

00:59:48We published this report

00:59:49at the behest

00:59:50of many of the survivors

00:59:51that we have worked with

00:59:52who are survivors

00:59:54of not just child sex trafficking,

00:59:56sex trafficking,

00:59:57but also survivors

00:59:57of prostitution

00:59:58it's called

00:59:59Buyers Unmasked.

01:00:00I'll share copies

01:00:01with the representatives

01:00:02here today

01:00:02but this report

01:00:04looks at conversations

01:00:06that sex buyers

01:00:07are having online

01:00:08on what are known

01:00:09as hobby boards

01:00:10or for those

01:00:11who are not familiar

01:00:11this is like Yelp

01:00:12for prostitution

01:00:13where sex buyers

01:00:15go online

01:00:15and they candidly

01:00:16talk about

01:00:17the individuals

01:00:18that they purchase

01:00:19for sex acts

01:00:19much like you would rate

01:00:20a meal that you had

01:00:22at a restaurant

01:00:23and they very candidly

01:00:25talk about them

01:00:26in terms of their

01:00:26racialized fetishes.

01:00:27they talk about

01:00:29young individuals

01:00:30again no regard

01:00:32for the fact

01:00:33that these individuals

01:00:35are often coerced

01:00:36and on the whole

01:00:37we found that

01:00:38they are undisturbed

01:00:40and completely disregard

01:00:42the fact that

01:00:43there are very overt

01:00:44signs of coercion

01:00:45violence

01:00:46and desperation

01:00:47in the people

01:00:48that they're purchasing

01:00:48for sexual gratification

01:00:50and so this report

01:00:52looks at all regions

01:00:53of the United States

01:00:54including you know

01:00:55the West Coast

01:00:56Southern United States

01:00:56and finds that

01:00:57misogyny and these

01:00:58misogynistic attitudes

01:01:00are largely interchangeable

01:01:01some of the quotes

01:01:03again completely unedited

01:01:04talk about how

01:01:06you know

01:01:07one of the buyers

01:01:07goes online

01:01:08and is very excited

01:01:10because the ad said

01:01:11the person was 24

01:01:13finds that the person

01:01:14is in fact

01:01:15barely 18

01:01:16he's really excited

01:01:17that she has braces

01:01:19and then you know

01:01:20towards the bottom

01:01:21of the ad

01:01:22after going into

01:01:22disgusting detail

01:01:23about you know

01:01:24the physical characteristics

01:01:25of this individual

01:01:26says

01:01:27but she hasn't been

01:01:28doing this long enough

01:01:29to know to check

01:01:30the room for cameras

01:01:31several of them

01:01:32go into other types

01:01:33of very graphic details

01:01:35about you know

01:01:36native women

01:01:37you know black

01:01:38quote unquote

01:01:39providers

01:01:40is what the

01:01:41dehumanizing language

01:01:42that they use

01:01:42and again

01:01:43largely echoes

01:01:44the Epstein files

01:01:45and you know

01:01:46to Danny's point

01:01:48this is not an anomaly

01:01:49these are not unique

01:01:50a lot of individuals

01:01:51who have reviewed

01:01:52the files say

01:01:53are shocked

01:01:54by what they're finding

01:01:56but for those of us

01:01:56who work on these issues

01:01:57unfortunately

01:01:58it's not shocking

01:01:59it's very consistent

01:02:01with what we're hearing

01:02:02from survivors

01:02:02and frankly

01:02:03the global sex trade

01:02:04exists because

01:02:05there's a steady

01:02:06lucrative demand

01:02:08that is provided

01:02:09by predominantly men

01:02:10all across the U.S.

01:02:12and globally

01:02:12and that's what

01:02:14Jeffrey Epstein

01:02:14understood

01:02:15and it's what

01:02:17traffickers

01:02:17operating massage parlors

01:02:19and every community

01:02:19understand

01:02:20it's what

01:02:21online recruiters

01:02:22understand

01:02:23and it's what

01:02:24organized criminal networks

01:02:25moving women

01:02:26across borders

01:02:27understand

01:02:28the setting changes

01:02:29but the logic

01:02:29does not

01:02:30another truth

01:02:31that we're not

01:02:32really willing

01:02:33to confront

01:02:33is that many

01:02:34of the child

01:02:35sex trafficking victims

01:02:36don't simply

01:02:37escape exploitation

01:02:38they ultimately

01:02:40oftentimes

01:02:40become the adults

01:02:42in the commercial

01:02:43sex trade

01:02:43the same people

01:02:45that we're told

01:02:46chose it

01:02:46or worse

01:02:47are empowered

01:02:48by it

01:02:49but the reality

01:02:50is that

01:02:51there are really

01:02:53startling statistics

01:02:55like over 92%

01:02:56of women

01:02:57in the sex trade

01:02:57report being shot

01:02:58raped

01:02:59strangled

01:03:00beaten

01:03:00burned

01:03:01stabbed

01:03:01or punched

01:03:02with most of that

01:03:03violence being committed

01:03:04by sex buyers

01:03:06the mortality rate

01:03:08of women

01:03:08in prostitution

01:03:09is 200 times

01:03:10that

01:03:10of the general

01:03:11population

01:03:1268%

01:03:13suffer PTSD

01:03:14as severe

01:03:15as levels

01:03:16suffered

01:03:16by combat

01:03:16veterans

01:03:17and 61%

01:03:18suffer traumatic

01:03:19brain injuries

01:03:20from having

01:03:21their heads

01:03:21slammed against

01:03:22walls

01:03:22and car doors

01:03:23so this is a

01:03:24very violent

01:03:25and degrading

01:03:26industry

01:03:26and one

01:03:27that we hear

01:03:28from survivors

01:03:28about constantly

01:03:29and people

01:03:31are subject

01:03:31to long-term

01:03:32physical

01:03:33and psychological

01:03:34harms

01:03:35and so in terms

01:03:36of the gaps

01:03:36we have legislated

01:03:38many federal laws

01:03:40but in terms

01:03:40of implementation

01:03:41gaps

01:03:42we are still

01:03:43struggling

01:03:43with implementing

01:03:44demand reduction

01:03:45that is

01:03:46the one

01:03:47single most

01:03:48difficulty

01:03:48we still have

01:03:50we have laws

01:03:50on the books

01:03:51but there's a

01:03:53culture of impunity

01:03:54it's deeply

01:03:54entrenched

01:03:55and it has to do

01:03:56with holding

01:03:57buyers accountable

01:03:58at the federal level

01:03:59at the state level

01:04:00at the local level

01:04:01for all of the reasons

01:04:03that we know

01:04:04and to Dahlia's

01:04:05point

01:04:05to Danny's

01:04:05point

01:04:06it's because

01:04:07of who these

01:04:08again predominantly

01:04:09men tend to be

01:04:10but we cannot

01:04:11be serious

01:04:13about the Epstein

01:04:14files

01:04:14holding these

01:04:15individuals

01:04:16accountable

01:04:16without understanding

01:04:18this entrenched

01:04:19culture of impunity

01:04:20around male demand

01:04:21for paid sex

01:04:23and that all of these

01:04:24issues are intricately

01:04:25tied

01:04:26thank you

01:04:27thank you

01:04:28executive director

01:04:28Waffa

01:04:29and we keep hearing

01:04:29the need for a demand

01:04:31reduction

01:04:32from many of our

01:04:32speakers

01:04:33we have three more

01:04:34incredible speakers

01:04:36and then we're going

01:04:37to give Marika

01:04:37the last word

01:04:38I know

01:04:39we had originally

01:04:40wanted time

01:04:41for discussion

01:04:41we could probably

01:04:42have discussion

01:04:42for hours

01:04:44but originally

01:04:46when Sky Amanda

01:04:47and I thought

01:04:47of doing this

01:04:48it was because

01:04:49King Charles

01:04:49had denied

01:04:50their request

01:04:51and the survivors

01:04:52request for meeting

01:04:53and the main thing

01:04:54was to make sure

01:04:54on the day

01:04:55that he's addressing

01:04:56congress

01:04:57that the survivors

01:04:58are uplifted

01:04:59that these incredible

01:05:00advocates are uplifted

01:05:01and I'm so honored

01:05:02that we've had

01:05:03some of the most

01:05:03influential members

01:05:05of congress

01:05:05working on this issue

01:05:07not just Epstein

01:05:08but for years

01:05:09showing up

01:05:09so we'll hear

01:05:10from our speakers

01:05:11and then my hope

01:05:12is this is just

01:05:12the beginning

01:05:13of a conversation

01:05:14and it will continue

01:05:15with many of the

01:05:16lawmakers

01:05:16groups

01:05:17and survivors

01:05:18here

01:05:18with that

01:05:20let me turn

01:05:21to representative

01:05:22Ayanna Presley

01:05:23who everyone knows

01:05:25has just been

01:05:25such a bold voice

01:05:27for survivors

01:05:28her entire career

01:05:30and stood

01:05:31with Epstein

01:05:32survivors

01:05:32thank you

01:05:33for being here

01:05:34thank you

01:05:34Ro

01:05:35for this

01:05:36essential

01:05:37and powerful

01:05:39convening

01:05:40I was supposed

01:05:41to be in committee

01:05:42so I actually

01:05:42had a scheduled

01:05:43conflict

01:05:43but I left

01:05:46to be here

01:05:46I don't have

01:05:47prepared remarks

01:05:48so we'll see

01:05:48how this goes

01:05:52I've been in congress

01:05:53now for eight years

01:05:54but prior to

01:05:55my election

01:05:55to congress

01:05:56I served on

01:05:56the Boston City Council

01:05:58for eight years

01:05:59first black woman

01:06:00elected to that body

01:06:01and I ran

01:06:03on a platform

01:06:04though it's really

01:06:05my heart's work

01:06:06to save women

01:06:07and girls

01:06:08and to champion

01:06:09gender specific

01:06:10and responsive

01:06:10programming and policies

01:06:11in government

01:06:13and there were

01:06:14naysayers who said

01:06:15to me

01:06:15that that was not

01:06:16the work of government

01:06:17that I should go

01:06:18run a non-profit

01:06:20but each of you

01:06:21affirmed that it is

01:06:22in fact

01:06:22it is the work

01:06:24of government

01:06:25it is the responsibility

01:06:26of government

01:06:27and I remember

01:06:28so many people

01:06:29saying to me

01:06:30you're fighting

01:06:31for the girls

01:06:32but it's the boys

01:06:33that are being killed

01:06:34in our streets

01:06:35and I said

01:06:35but it's the girls

01:06:36that are solely dying

01:06:37in front of you

01:06:38every day

01:06:39that are not being

01:06:40given any dignity

01:06:42or any visibility

01:06:44there are

01:06:48several testimonials

01:06:49or stories

01:06:50that fuel me

01:06:51in this work

01:06:53the first is

01:06:54a domestic worker

01:06:55I met

01:06:56who every day

01:06:58went in to

01:06:59clean a home

01:07:00and removed

01:07:01all of her clothes

01:07:02because her employer

01:07:03said he needed that

01:07:04as proof

01:07:04that she was not

01:07:05stealing anything

01:07:06and she went every day

01:07:08and cleaned that home

01:07:09and stripped

01:07:11the other is

01:07:12of the mother

01:07:13of a 16 year old

01:07:17her daughter

01:07:18committed suicide

01:07:19because of bullying

01:07:22as the result

01:07:23of deep fake

01:07:24pornography

01:07:27and the third

01:07:29is Virginia

01:07:35she is

01:07:37always in my consciousness

01:07:40and I'm so upset

01:07:42because I lost

01:07:43my butterfly

01:07:49you know

01:07:50I read her book

01:07:50and

01:07:52before reading it

01:07:53I just stared

01:07:54at the title

01:07:55over and over again

01:07:55nobody's girl

01:07:58and

01:08:00Skye and Amanda

01:08:01I just

01:08:01thank you

01:08:02for all that

01:08:03all that you were doing

01:08:04and carrying her

01:08:05legacy forward

01:08:06and championing

01:08:07the need

01:08:09for cultural reform

01:08:11culture shifts

01:08:12and legislative change

01:08:14and Skye

01:08:15I know she was

01:08:16was your protector

01:08:21and you are being hers

01:08:23but you are also

01:08:24being a brother

01:08:25to this

01:08:25entire

01:08:26sister survivor

01:08:27circle

01:08:29and

01:08:31it is a painful

01:08:32thing to go

01:08:33through life

01:08:33feeling that you

01:08:34belong to no one

01:08:37but we claim

01:08:38Virginia

01:08:41she belongs

01:08:41to all of us

01:08:42now

01:08:43and

01:08:44each of you

01:08:44belong to us

01:08:45as well

01:08:46and

01:08:48I'm guided

01:08:49every day

01:08:49by the words

01:08:50of Angela Y. Davis

01:08:51that I'm no longer

01:08:51accepting the things

01:08:52I cannot change

01:08:53that I'm changing

01:08:54the things

01:08:55I can no longer

01:08:55accept

01:08:57I can no longer

01:08:58accept

01:08:58that

01:08:59femicide

01:09:00is something

01:09:01normalized

01:09:03economic dependence

01:09:04coercive control

01:09:05sexual assault

01:09:07domestic violence

01:09:08sexual abuse

01:09:10sex trafficking

01:09:12I can no longer

01:09:13accept

01:09:14that we don't

01:09:14have an equal

01:09:15rights amendment

01:09:16in our constitution

01:09:20that we have been

01:09:21relegated

01:09:22to

01:09:23a second class

01:09:24or invisible status

01:09:26overwhelmingly

01:09:26as women

01:09:27and certainly

01:09:27as survivors

01:09:31nothing changes

01:09:32if nothing changes

01:09:36so I just

01:09:37I thank all of you

01:09:38I do think

01:09:39that change

01:09:40is on the way

01:09:40I look forward

01:09:42to a day

01:09:42where we can all

01:09:43not just wear

01:09:44butterflies

01:09:45but embody

01:09:46that spirit

01:09:47of feeling

01:09:49totally and completely

01:09:50free

01:09:50free from the shame

01:09:52free from the

01:09:54burden

01:09:55of it all

01:09:56because

01:09:57what has happened

01:09:58to our survivors

01:10:00around the table

01:10:00was a violation

01:10:01of dignity

01:10:02it was a violation

01:10:04of bodies

01:10:04it was a violation

01:10:05of dreams

01:10:07you see

01:10:08before you've grown

01:10:09women

01:10:09so you might forget

01:10:10that they were mere

01:10:11children

01:10:11and I can think

01:10:12of nothing more vile

01:10:14than to groom

01:10:15to prey upon

01:10:16to exploit

01:10:18to rape

01:10:18to traffic

01:10:19a child

01:10:21so

01:10:22I'm just

01:10:24grateful for each

01:10:25and every one of you

01:10:26as we hold

01:10:27accountable

01:10:29the vermin

01:10:30who committed

01:10:32these vile acts

01:10:33and left

01:10:34survivors

01:10:34with a lifetime

01:10:35sentence

01:10:37to navigate

01:10:38whether they are

01:10:39pastors

01:10:40presidents

01:10:40or princes

01:10:41a reckoning

01:10:42is on the way

01:10:43thank you

01:10:45thank you

01:10:46President Presley

01:10:47for those very

01:10:47powerful words

01:10:49now

01:10:50we'll hear

01:10:51from

01:10:52President

01:10:53Lundstrom

01:10:53President Lundstrom

01:10:54is the CEO

01:10:55of the

01:10:55Polarist Project

01:10:57which really works

01:10:58on human trafficking

01:10:59in North America

01:11:00thank you

01:11:01for being here

01:11:01thank you

01:11:02representative

01:11:03for having me

01:11:04here today

01:11:04and for convening

01:11:05this

01:11:06it is an honor

01:11:07to be alongside

01:11:07you all

01:11:08Claris works

01:11:09at the systems

01:11:10level

01:11:10to strengthen

01:11:11the United States

01:11:12how the United States

01:11:14responds

01:11:14to and prevents

01:11:15human trafficking

01:11:16starting with

01:11:18listening to

01:11:19survivors

01:11:19at the local level

01:11:20we build

01:11:21and steward

01:11:22one of the most

01:11:22comprehensive data sets

01:11:24on trafficking

01:11:25in the United States

01:11:26and we use that

01:11:27to inform

01:11:28how systems

01:11:29and stakeholders

01:11:30can more effectively

01:11:31operate together

01:11:32and while I currently

01:11:34hold the professional

01:11:35title of CEO

01:11:36I first came into

01:11:37this work

01:11:38over a decade ago

01:11:39as a survivor

01:11:40of trafficking myself

01:11:41like many survivors

01:11:43I navigated systems

01:11:44where parts

01:11:46of my situation

01:11:46were visible

01:11:47to various stakeholders

01:11:49but no one

01:11:50could see

01:11:50the complete reality

01:11:51that I was living

01:11:52through

01:11:52and that experience

01:11:55of not being

01:11:55fully seen

01:11:56is something

01:11:57that we're hearing

01:11:58today

01:11:58from the survivors

01:11:59in the room

01:12:00and it's also

01:12:01something

01:12:02that we see

01:12:03consistently

01:12:04across the country

01:12:05so I'll add

01:12:06some numbers

01:12:07to that

01:12:08in 2024

01:12:09alone

01:12:10Polaris

01:12:11sent

01:12:13176

01:12:13tips

01:12:14to law enforcement

01:12:15in Mississippi

01:12:16alone

01:12:17and yet

01:12:18over the last

01:12:2022 years

01:12:21Mississippi

01:12:21has only had

01:12:2212 federally

01:12:24prosecuted

01:12:25human trafficking

01:12:25cases

01:12:29the most

01:12:30significant

01:12:31challenge

01:12:31in anti-trafficking

01:12:32efforts

01:12:33that Polaris

01:12:34is working

01:12:34to address

01:12:35currently

01:12:36is to build

01:12:37infrastructure

01:12:38that strengthens

01:12:39both visibility

01:12:39and accountability

01:12:42legislation

01:12:43like the

01:12:44National Human

01:12:44Trafficking

01:12:45Database Act

01:12:46has the potential

01:12:47to support

01:12:48pattern identification

01:12:49system coordination

01:12:51and responses

01:12:52that are grounded

01:12:53in a complete

01:12:54and accurate picture

01:12:55ultimately

01:12:56the goal

01:12:57is not to

01:12:58just respond

01:12:59to human trafficking

01:13:00but to transform

01:13:01systems

01:13:01where harm

01:13:02is harder

01:13:03to ignore

01:13:03and people

01:13:04are seen

01:13:05and can have

01:13:05full agency

01:13:06over our lives

01:13:07thank you

01:13:08thank you so much

01:13:10for those statistics

01:13:12and your testimony

01:13:14we will now

01:13:15hear from

01:13:17the founder

01:13:18of Model Alliance

01:13:19Sarah Zip

01:13:20which promotes

01:13:21safety and equality

01:13:22in the modeling

01:13:24industry

01:13:24and creative fields

01:13:25founder Zip

01:13:27if you would

01:13:28thank you

01:13:29Congressman Khanna

01:13:30hello everyone

01:13:32I'm Sarah Zip

01:13:33I'm the founder

01:13:33and executive director

01:13:34of the Model Alliance

01:13:35a non-profit

01:13:36advocating for the

01:13:37fair treatment

01:13:38of fashion workers

01:13:39I'm here on behalf

01:13:41of 40 survivors

01:13:42including Charlene

01:13:43and Marika

01:13:44who signed a letter

01:13:46the Model Alliance

01:13:47recently sent

01:13:48to Congressman Khanna

01:13:49calling for an investigation

01:13:50into the ties

01:13:51between the modeling

01:13:52industry

01:13:53and Jeffrey Epstein

01:13:54as a teenage model

01:13:56I ended up

01:13:57sitting next to

01:13:58Jeffrey Epstein

01:13:59at his pool

01:14:00in Florida

01:14:02the trip that brought

01:14:03me to Florida

01:14:04was a shoot

01:14:05orchestrated

01:14:06by my modeling

01:14:07agency

01:14:08next

01:14:09knowing what I do

01:14:10now

01:14:11I doubt

01:14:11that was a coincidence

01:14:13I wasn't abused

01:14:14by Epstein

01:14:15but I couldn't

01:14:16escape the system

01:14:17built to send

01:14:19models

01:14:19sometimes girls

01:14:20as young as 14 years

01:14:21old

01:14:22directly to predators

01:14:23like Epstein

01:14:25Harvey Weinstein

01:14:26and his associate

01:14:27Fabrizio Lombardo

01:14:29who when I was 19

01:14:30raped me

01:14:31after a meeting

01:14:32that my agent

01:14:33arranged

01:14:35the reason

01:14:36predators

01:14:37are routinely

01:14:38linked

01:14:39to underage

01:14:40models

01:14:40is because

01:14:41their modeling

01:14:42agencies

01:14:42served as

01:14:44that link

01:14:46Epstein

01:14:47had deep

01:14:47ties

01:14:48to Nex

01:14:49co-founder

01:14:50Faith Cates

01:14:51this is the woman

01:14:51who was in charge

01:14:52of my working life

01:14:53from the age

01:14:53of 14

01:14:55he offered

01:14:56her

01:14:56multi-million dollar

01:14:58loans

01:14:59to buy

01:14:59an apartment

01:15:00and a stake

01:15:01in Nex

01:15:01in return

01:15:03she offered him

01:15:04quote

01:15:04unconditional friendship

01:15:06and access

01:15:07to young models

01:15:09Parisian agent

01:15:10Jean-Luc Brunel

01:15:11trafficked over

01:15:121,000 young women

01:15:14and girls

01:15:14to Epstein

01:15:15who gave Brunel

01:15:16a million dollars

01:15:17for his

01:15:18MC squared

01:15:19modeling agency

01:15:21Epstein also

01:15:22appears to have

01:15:23paid for models

01:15:24visas

01:15:24at one

01:15:25model management

01:15:27modeling

01:15:28is seen

01:15:29as a glamorous

01:15:29industry

01:15:30in reality

01:15:31young models

01:15:32are uniquely

01:15:33vulnerable

01:15:34to agencies

01:15:35that are often

01:15:35their visa sponsor

01:15:37landlord

01:15:38power of attorney

01:15:40and gatekeeper

01:15:41to opportunity

01:15:42that power imbalance

01:15:44leaves models

01:15:45blind to the extortion

01:15:47and trafficking

01:15:48sending them

01:15:49directly into the arms

01:15:50of known rapists

01:15:51this is systemic

01:15:53if we are looking

01:15:56for a concrete way

01:15:57to address trafficking

01:15:59and sexual assault

01:16:00there is no better

01:16:01place to start

01:16:02than the $2.5 trillion

01:16:04global industry

01:16:06that acted

01:16:06as a referral pipeline

01:16:08for predators

01:16:10regulations

01:16:11like those

01:16:12in the fashion workers act

01:16:13which the model alliance

01:16:14championed in New York

01:16:16are a critical advancement

01:16:18but to honor survivors

01:16:20and protect

01:16:21the next generation

01:16:22we must also

01:16:23uncover the true extent

01:16:24of these recruitment schemes

01:16:26and the ties

01:16:28between the industry

01:16:29Epstein

01:16:30and the powerful people

01:16:31he was connected to

01:16:33to do that

01:16:34we need the immediate

01:16:35and thorough investigation

01:16:37by the oversight committee

01:16:39that survivors

01:16:40and congressman

01:16:41Kanna

01:16:41have called for

01:16:42thank you

01:16:43thank you

01:16:44executive director

01:16:45Zephan

01:16:45for all your work

01:16:46in exposing

01:16:47the abuse

01:16:49in the industry

01:16:49and calling for reform

01:16:52we're going to have

01:16:53our final speaker

01:16:54and then I'll have

01:16:54Skye and Amanda

01:16:55close it out for us

01:16:56our final speaker

01:16:59is Ms. Marika Chattuni

01:17:01a survivor herself

01:17:03Ms. Chattuni

01:17:04if you could share

01:17:05a few of your comments

01:17:06thank you for having me here today

01:17:09thank you for having me here today

01:17:11I'd like to acknowledge

01:17:12the victims

01:17:12that could not be here

01:17:14my friend Maria

01:17:16and Annie Farmer

01:17:17could not be here today

01:17:18Maria Farmer

01:17:19first reported this case

01:17:20in 1996

01:17:21as many of you guys know

01:17:23when institutions

01:17:25like the FBI

01:17:26and the DOJ

01:17:27failed to address

01:17:28the claims of Maria Farmer

01:17:30and others that came forward

01:17:31after her

01:17:32it feels like they too

01:17:34are part of the exploitation

01:17:36by not investigating

01:17:38they not only tolerated

01:17:40they enabled

01:17:41both the CSA

01:17:43and the abuse

01:17:43of thousands of girls

01:17:44and women

01:17:45their inaction

01:17:46sends a message

01:17:47that sexual abuse victims

01:17:49are not valued

01:17:51the files

01:17:52that were released

01:17:53is a chilling reminder

01:17:55of this institutional failure

01:17:58thank you

01:17:59thank you very much

01:18:01for being here

01:18:02Skye and Amanda

01:18:03why don't you close us out

01:18:07I'm going to have Skye

01:18:09kind of close us out

01:18:10on some words

01:18:11of Virginia

01:18:12but I do

01:18:16want to take the moment

01:18:17to thank every single person

01:18:19who has showed up

01:18:19in this room today

01:18:20and shows up

01:18:21every single day

01:18:22with the work

01:18:22that they do

01:18:23for survivors

01:18:24seen and unseen

01:18:27I also want

01:18:28to take this moment

01:18:29to speak to

01:18:30every single survivor

01:18:31who has endured

01:18:34the unimaginable

01:18:37but I also want

01:18:39to tell you

01:18:39that you don't have

01:18:40to be loud

01:18:41that your healing

01:18:42in silence

01:18:43is victory

01:18:44and that

01:18:46as long

01:18:47as we have breath

01:18:48our commitment

01:18:50to you

01:18:50and to this work

01:18:51and to Virginia

01:18:52her survivor sisters

01:18:53it will not stop

01:18:55we are not going away

01:18:57we will not be silenced

01:18:59we are working

01:19:00to change

01:19:01the culture

01:19:02and fix

01:19:03the system

01:19:04that has been broken

01:19:05for far too long

01:19:11I echo everything

01:19:12that Amanda just said

01:19:13but emotional day today

01:19:17it is a privilege

01:19:18it is an honor

01:19:19to be in the room

01:19:19with all of you

01:19:20and I know

01:19:20we have got a lot

01:19:21of work left

01:19:22to do here

01:19:22so it is certainly

01:19:23not the last time

01:19:24but there is no more

01:19:25fitting way

01:19:26to end this

01:19:27than just the words

01:19:29of Virginia herself

01:19:30so I am going to read

01:19:31page 366

01:19:33Nobody's Girl

01:19:36If you have read

01:19:37this far

01:19:38I hope my story

01:19:39has moved you

01:19:40to seek ways

01:19:41to free yourself

01:19:42from a bad situation

01:19:43say to stand up

01:19:44for someone else

01:19:45in need

01:19:46or to simply reframe

01:19:47how you judge victims

01:19:48of sexual abuse

01:19:49each one of us

01:19:50can make positive change

01:19:51I truly believe that

01:19:53I hope for a world

01:19:55in which predators

01:19:55are punished

01:19:56not protected

01:19:58victims are treated

01:19:59with compassion

01:20:00not shamed

01:20:01and powerful people

01:20:03face the same consequences

01:20:04as anyone else

01:20:06I yearn too

01:20:07for a world

01:20:08in which perpetrators

01:20:09face more shame

01:20:10than their victims do

01:20:11and where anyone

01:20:13who's been trafficked

01:20:13can confront their abusers

01:20:15when they are ready

01:20:16no matter

01:20:18how much time has passed

01:20:21we don't live in this world

01:20:23yet

01:20:23I mean seriously

01:20:25where are those videotapes

01:20:26the FBI confiscated

01:20:28from Epstein's houses

01:20:29and why haven't they led

01:20:30to the prosecution

01:20:31of any more abusers

01:20:33but I believe

01:20:34we could

01:20:35someday

01:20:37imagining it is

01:20:38the first step

01:20:39in my mind

01:20:40hold a picture

01:20:40of a girl

01:20:42reaching out for help

01:20:43and easily finding it

01:20:45I picture a woman

01:20:46too

01:20:47who

01:20:48having come to terms

01:20:49with her childhood pain

01:20:50feels that

01:20:51it's within her power

01:20:52to take action

01:20:53against those

01:20:53who's hurt her

01:20:55if this book

01:20:57moves us

01:20:57even an inch

01:20:58closer

01:20:59to the reality

01:21:00like that

01:21:00if it helps

01:21:01just one person

01:21:07I will have achieved

01:21:08my goal

01:21:10thank you

01:21:12thank you

01:21:13thank you

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