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The First 48 - Season 29 - Episode 15: The Devil's Hand
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00:01This program documents actual homicide investigations.
00:05Criminal charges are often dropped or reduced,
00:07and all suspects shown are presumed innocent unless proven guilty.
00:27The police are a paramedic.
00:33Police and paramedics.
00:35Find us for our neighbors.
00:37They say somebody's dead in their apartment.
00:40Her sister, I believe.
00:42Their dogs were barking all day,
00:44and they're like, I guess it was because of this.
00:49She's cold.
00:50There's blood everywhere.
00:51I think she's been murdered.
00:53We have help off the way.
00:55Okay, thank you, ma'am.
01:04Quick out of police!
01:14Pretty brutal.
01:16A whole bunch of settlers.
01:19There's blood on the bear, as well.
01:23A female pretty much stabbed to death,
01:26and she is clearly 48.
01:30Look how long she's been there.
01:32the body's very cold
01:35homicide and route
01:50for homicide detectives
01:52their chance of solving a murder
01:54is cut in half
01:55if they don't get a lead
01:57within the first 48 hours
02:12how are you guys
02:20Anna Karen
02:2424 year old
02:25Anna Karen Ramos Hernandez
02:27was born in Cuernavaca, Mexico
02:29and moved to the United States
02:31when she was 10
02:33since graduating high school
02:35Karen worked as a house painter
02:36and was learning how to do home renovation
02:39she enjoyed spending her free time
02:41with her four nieces
02:42two cats
02:43and two dogs
02:53stabbed her arms
02:55her face
02:57a lot of chest stuff as well
03:00this was definitely
03:01somebody was going after her
03:05Karen
03:06was stabbed over 40 times
03:09I've never seen one
03:10that many days
03:13in the bedroom
03:14feeling her
03:15turn to the right
03:16the belly
03:16there's a lot of big
03:17blood on the bed
03:20and there's
03:21closed off above the headboard
03:24we think she's probably
03:26been here since last night
03:28there's no forced entrance
03:29from the door
03:33there's two bloody
03:34fingerprints
03:35on the entrance door
03:40we haven't located the knife
03:41the victim's sister
03:46last contact with
03:47the victim was last night
03:50she gets here
03:51and she immediately
03:52finds her sister
03:53like that
03:55so I call me sister
03:56well
03:58well
04:07ayer
04:08la última vez
04:08que yo hablé
04:09con ella
04:09fue a las 8 de la noche
04:12y yo le estaba
04:13mandando así
04:14como memes de la nieve
04:15y me dijo
04:15así voy a andar yo mañana
04:16entonces
04:17la dejé
04:18y ya
04:18hoy la mañana
04:19que me paré
04:19como a las 7 de la mañana
04:20que ya estaban en van
04:21yo le marqué
04:22le dije
04:22yo madre
04:22no me contestó
04:23mi hija
04:24estará durmiendo
04:26y no me contestó
04:27después eran las 10
04:28le volví a marcar
04:29le hice videollamada
04:30para que mirara
04:30como si que se despertara
04:32pues para ver la nieve
04:33no me contestó
04:35y le marcaba normal
04:36y estaba apagado
04:36el teléfono
04:37apagado
04:37apagado
04:38y incluso ya como a las 5
04:39yo le tenía llamadas
04:41y por whatsapp
04:42y no se ha conectado
04:44hace 19 horas
04:44el teléfono apagado
04:47iban a venir
04:48para acá
04:49y la puerta
04:50y la mirada
04:52y tirada
04:52y me salí
04:53yo no aguante
04:58quien más
05:02Sebastián
05:03Omaña
05:04Torres
05:06karen's sister
05:07says that until recently
05:08karen had lived
05:09with her long time
05:10boyfriend
05:10sebastian
05:11Omaña
05:12Torres
05:14dígame
05:15que pasó
05:15con Omaña
05:17omaña
05:18ella no me contaba
05:18como su relación
05:19a veces me decía
05:20oh ya lo ocurrió
05:23¿qué tipo de problema
05:24ha tenido ella con él?
05:26él es muy vicioso
05:28me gusta la mota
05:29y otras
05:31yo muchas veces
05:32le decía
05:32no te conviene
05:33no te conviene
05:34pero ella estaba
05:3512
05:37con él
05:39¿y ella se puso
05:40violento con ella
05:41antes?
05:43solamente hubo
05:44dos veces
05:44que sí me dijo
05:45que él trató
05:47de pegarle
05:48y ella le regresó
05:49una cachetada
05:51le llamó la policía
05:52que yo sepa
05:54no
05:56ahorita yo le marqué
05:57a su papá
05:57she says
05:58she called
05:59sebastian's father
06:00after discovering
06:01karen's body
06:04preguntarle
06:04que donde estaba
06:05su hijo
06:06que si lo ha visto
06:08dice que
06:09él lo tiene
06:10desde el lunes
06:12sebastian's father
06:13told her
06:13his son
06:14moved in
06:14with him
06:154 days ago
06:17le dijo
06:17que iba
06:18para miami
06:18ahorita
06:22me dijo
06:22que le mandaron
06:23a la dirección
06:23que él venía
06:24para acá
06:25ahorita
06:26she says
06:27sebastian's father
06:28is on
06:29his way
06:29to the scene
06:43downstairs
06:44from karen's
06:45apartment
06:52detective david early
06:54talks to karen's
06:55neighbor
06:58hey
06:58this detective
06:59early
06:59good night pd
07:01does this thing
07:01work
07:01do you look like
07:02it does
07:02yes
07:03do you mind
07:04if i uh
07:04kind of look back
07:05and see if you can't
07:06see what happened
07:09motion clip
07:23what's he
07:24contemplating here
07:31he comes out
07:32kind of in a hurry
07:33pulling the hood
07:34over his face
07:37thank you sir
07:44okay
07:49sebastian's father
07:51arrives
07:51to talk to detectives
07:59a las 3
08:01me
08:01a las 3
08:01padre
08:02como esta
08:02que asi
08:03yo le pregunté
08:05donde esta
08:06me dijo
08:07padre
08:07me salio
08:07un trabajo
08:08por aca
08:09en miami
08:10padre
08:11yo estoy
08:11pensando
08:12en irme
08:12porque la verdad
08:13no me estas
08:14saliendo
08:15es nada
08:17yo le dije
08:17no se
08:18porque
08:19es que
08:20usted es
08:20bien raro
08:22Yo creo que me voy a ir.
08:24Yo, OK, mía, decisión suya.
08:28¿Y él estaba contigo ayer?
08:32Sí.
08:34¿A qué hora?
08:35Él llegó como a las 2, 2 y media.
08:40Y anoche, anoche yo sí lo noté extraño, la verdad,
08:44sí lo noté extraño, porque tenía baba blanca.
08:48Entonces, estaba muy reseco la boca.
08:51Eso es como si hubiera consumido algo.
08:55Él empezó a decirme esas veces.
08:59Cuando llegó, ¿por qué se empezó a decirme?
09:01Porque es que él se me acerca a decirme a mí,
09:04como si yo fuera el culpable, como si yo siempre, siempre.
09:10Desde siempre, desde siempre.
09:13Incluso desde Colombia y todo.
09:16Que a mí me van a matar, que a mí me van a matar,
09:19y que él me cuida, y que yo no sé qué, y que...
09:23¿Tú sabes que ha tratado manejando tu hijo?
09:27Tengo entendido que Karen tenía esa forma blanca.
09:36A ver, la relación con él.
09:38Y Karen, o sea, no, no, no, no es buena.
09:43Nunca, nunca, él hace siempre su voluntad.
09:47Y Karen estaba ya cansada.
09:51Que tal cosa, y ya no quiere trabajar más,
09:55y que es como él dice, es como él este.
09:58Entonces, Karen siempre le colaboraba muchísimo.
10:05Yo siempre le dije a Karen, Karen, por favor,
10:08mire, aléjese, aléjese.
10:12No sé, esta persona, esta foto.
10:38Parece, pero no sé, no estoy seguro de la ventana.
10:42No sé qué más, qué puedo colaborar más.
10:45O sea, con el dolor del alma,
10:48yo venía hablando con alguien.
10:52Así, si lo hizo,
10:56quedas uno sus consecuencias.
10:59Yo creo que eso, eso es todo por ahora.
11:02Tengo que regresar ahí adentro.
11:11The white SUV hit a Flock camera
11:15in South Georgia, near Valdosta,
11:18at 6 p.m. this evening.
11:21Karen's Explorer was spotted leaving the state,
11:24heading south.
11:44Heading back to headquarters to work on that arrest warrant.
11:57That's him.
12:0026-year-old Kurt Sebastian Omania Torres has no prior convictions.
12:06Sebastian's originally from Colombia.
12:09That could be a potential location where he would want to flee.
12:14Miami, to fly over to Colombia would be really easy.
12:18A lot of international flights come out of Miami to South America.
12:22He left the state.
12:24He has a day ahead of us.
12:27We're having the U.S. Marshals to go ahead and try to come down.
12:32Marshals, we have a lot more resources to locate suspects.
12:55Two days later.
13:01There it is.
13:07We're in that police, hello?
13:12Vehicle is empty.
13:13He's going to be inside.
13:17Hey, who came in that white Explorer?
13:20You in the bathroom?
13:23You in the bathroom.
13:24Step out to that police.
13:27Yeah.
13:28Let me see your hands.
13:29Step out.
13:29Both hands.
13:30Both hands.
13:31Step out.
13:32Hey, step out.
13:34Come here.
13:37Can you confirm his name?
13:39Can you confirm his name?
13:40Can you confirm his name?
13:42He's a mess of the way to stab him.
13:44My report.
13:46Yeah, it's good.
13:48He goes to 35.
13:56Hey, Karen's live Ford Explorer had hit on our license plate reading cameras around 11 o'clock.
14:03We got information from the father.
14:05Kurt had returned home, and then he left and said that he was going to go to a gas station.
14:12That video is definitely this guy.
14:14Mm-hmm.
14:14The video they said it does.
14:15He's got long hair.
14:17You can see the little shave on the side.
14:19Mm-hmm.
14:20That's him.
14:29The light is not to be in this world.
14:31It's the room.
14:32No, not to be in.
14:36No, no, no, no.
14:48How was your relationship?
14:49Who was the girl?
14:51My ex.
14:52How was she?
14:53Anna Karen.
14:56How was your relationship?
14:59At the beginning she was very beautiful.
15:02Did you leave her or did she leave her?
15:05I left, I left.
15:07I didn't live with her.
15:11I looked at the news
15:13and the truth is that I was scared
15:15because the things were not.
15:18Can you explain what happened?
15:22I lived with her
15:23for about four years.
15:27We didn't understand.
15:30I decided to live with my dad.
15:35Where did you go?
15:37I was in DoorDash
15:39because I was in DoorDash.
15:42Okay.
15:43So, when you're doing DoorDash
15:45at what time did you come back to home?
15:50Like...
15:5210.
15:56The story is that you were doing DoorDash
15:59and you weren't there.
16:01You can see it in your phone
16:03so you can see that.
16:05It's easier to see.
16:08No.
16:08No.
16:09What happened was that I removed everything.
16:13I decided to continue to do it.
16:15Because my plan was to know her
16:18and I had a little bit of money.
16:22The car that I was renting
16:24was her.
16:27I left.
16:28Where did you go?
16:29Where did you go to Florida?
16:31Why did you go to Florida?
16:34Just to travel.
16:35I had about $600.
16:38And then I wanted to...
16:41But then I saw it on Facebook.
16:44I started to worry.
16:46I started to think about things.
16:47Mm-hmm.
16:49Mm-hmm.
16:51Okay.
16:52Okay?
17:00Show him going to her house.
17:03For y'all to say,
17:03we can clearly see your face.
17:05And your mask is off.
17:06Be like, dude, we knew you were there.
17:08And then I put pictures of her in there.
17:10Mm-hmm.
17:12I say we started playing the...
17:14Playing that relationship first.
17:16Why they split how that went.
17:17Kind of getting him in that mindset.
17:24Yeah.
17:26During the relationship,
17:29what happened?
17:30What happened?
17:33Look, she was a very violent person.
17:38She was very bad with you.
17:41But at the beginning,
17:43because that was her.
17:44I don't know if you believe in the witchcraft.
17:47Yeah.
17:49I feel like she was controlling her
17:52while she was eating,
17:54and...
17:55And...
17:56And there were things that she...
17:58I don't know if I would tell her...
18:01They'd say someone's crazy,
18:03but that's true.
18:04Through the witchcraft,
18:05you can control people.
18:08¿Qué pasa si no?
18:13Detectives show Sebastian crime scene photos
18:16of Karen's body.
18:48Es mío.
18:51Yo le pido a Dios
18:53que me perdone sin llorar.
19:09Llegó un momento en el que
19:11no sé qué estaba haciendo.
19:16Yo sé que va a ser difícil,
19:19pero la única manera
19:22que Dios te puede ordenar
19:23es si tú dices la verdad.
19:26Óigame, te lo digo de verdad.
19:28Mírame.
19:29Tienes que decir la verdad.
19:37Es que yo no era, yo no era,
19:40yo no era,
19:43un espíritu,
19:44era una entidad muy áspera.
19:49Yo sé, no me acuerdo,
19:51pero el hecho es que sí,
19:53yo fui.
19:57se me metí un diablo,
19:59demonio,
20:00demonio,
20:02demonio,
20:03de poder ver mis manos,
20:05de mi cuerpo,
20:06de mi forma de pensar.
20:10¿Dónde tú entraste?
20:11¿Dónde tú entraste?
20:11¿Dónde ella estaba?
20:13Bueno, ella estaba ahí,
20:15en el televisor.
20:17¿Dónde tú entraste?
20:18Ella estaba viendo la tele.
20:22¿Qué pasó de ella?
20:23Me duele,
20:24me duele,
20:25me duele,
20:26me duele decirme.
20:27Pero la duele más
20:28si lo aguantas adentro.
20:31¿Qué empecé?
20:34¿Ella te peleó?
20:36Sí.
20:39¿Me dijo algo
20:40cuando le estabas escuchando?
20:43Dame un beso,
20:44dame un último beso.
20:52No, me duele mucho por ti.
20:56Es que como le digo yo,
20:57no era yo,
20:58no era yo.
21:04No, me duele.
21:06me duele.
21:07No, me duele.
21:07No, me duele.
21:09No, me duele.
21:12He doesn't take off the mask
21:14until he's walking down the stairs
21:16from the apartment,
21:17so I believe he has mask on
21:18the entire time.
21:24I think he's just full of it.
21:26The kids,
21:27I think it's just all to try
21:28to make himself feel better.
21:31I think it was probably
21:32a lot of revenge
21:33and anger in there,
21:34and for all we know,
21:35I mean, she dumped him
21:36and he wasn't having it.
21:39Unfortunately, I do see this
21:40a lot when it comes to
21:42domestics and the stabbing
21:44being the injuries.
21:46There's always a lot of rage
21:47and emotion behind it.
21:51And his mind think that
21:53she still loved him
21:54all the way to the end.
21:58and she wasn't even
22:10the inmates.
22:22Six months after Karen's death,
22:26Les estoy dando las fichas que igual a mi hermana era una de sus favoritas.
22:33La relación con Karen, que yo era, era muy apegada.
22:39Siempre salíamos juntas en el trabajo o con sus sobrinas.
22:46Ella era muy apegada a mis hijas, sus sobrinas.
22:53Aquí fue cumpleaños igual sorpresa.
22:56Este fue cuando cumplió 22 años.
23:01A mi me gusta peinarla mucho porque me gustaba experimentar con nuevos peinados.
23:09Que yo le rizara su pelo con una máquina que me cobró mi mamá.
23:14Y ahorita sí es difícil porque yo digo, ¿con qué voy a transcurrir?
23:21Mi mamá me falleció y a los seis meses falleció mi hermana.
23:27Y sí, es un fuerte golpe.
23:31Llevar todo, todo eso, toda esa idea de que se me fueron las personas especiales.
23:40Llevar todo, que yo were yep gigante.
24:00Quick pic number two in Pritchard.
24:02This man just pulled up on the street and shot somebody in a car.
24:07It has been reported, and they are sending help out.
24:10Okay, thank you.
24:14Hello, what's the address?
24:16Oh, my God!
24:17Oh, 2027!
24:19Oh, my God!
24:20Damn soon!
24:28Oh, my God!
24:30Oh, my God, please!
24:34I'm up on number one.
24:36A dude shot into someone's car.
24:38There was two people inside the vehicle, and he shot into the car.
24:42And I think the two people are dead.
24:44There was two people inside the vehicle.
25:09I don't know.
25:12I don't know.
25:12I don't know what else to see.
25:13I don't know where it is, but I don't know where to.
25:14Robert Camden Dorch Jackson 25 year old Camden Jackson worked at a local Winn
25:25Dixie and part-time for his uncle's painting business
25:29Camden's first child was due in seven months
25:36pull the head Camden was shot eight times
25:44passenger Gervonta Kennedy
25:5026 year old Van Kennedy the fourth was the youngest of three and loved to spend time with his young
25:56nieces and nephews he recently graduated Fortis College for heating and air conditioning
26:04my cheek the left neck left behind the ears then was shot nine times all we know is that the
26:17car
26:17was on here along the road and sidewalk detectives find 25 9 millimeter keysings when he pulled up
26:31and started shooting they tried to ram go forward and then couldn't get out so they backed up
26:38collected two 40 caliber guns from within the vehicle you see the blood pull from his finger
26:44the gun was laying right there
26:52they find eight 40 caliber casings in the front
27:00and two 9 millimeter casings in the back
27:06a bloody palm print on the driver's side rear exterior door
27:14someone ran up to the car like this and braced and they have fired more than 50 cases in there
27:22it's crazy dude
27:25maybe our suspect was shot
27:27it could be his blood
27:30walked up and fired more shots inside of the car
27:34I just want to know from the shoe to why you know
27:46so just tell me what what you were doing and what happened
27:51lieutenant Stan Latmeer interviews the 911 caller who was working at the nearby drugstore
27:56I was ringing up a customer and caught the light was trying to get from you know whatever was going
28:02on
28:04the person in the green SUV got about the car he was shooting
28:08she says the man was shooting into the victim's Chevy Malibu
28:13I don't know if they were shooting back at him or what
28:15but I seen them ducking a couple of times
28:18that's when the car rolled
28:20as you see the car rolling and as that car hit the curb
28:23started shooting again in the car on the drive side
28:26she says the shooter then ran back to his gray SUV and drove away
28:32he got back in the car
28:33where did his car go?
28:35straight before the fire
28:37okay
28:38all right
28:39I appreciate it
28:40you're welcome
28:42so the information about the gray SUV was passed on to patrol
28:46anyone else?
28:47any witnesses?
28:48the girl that's in the joker shirt over there
28:53okay
28:54okay
29:03now tell me what happened
29:05I was coming to patrol about to get my medicine
29:09the dude who hopped out on SUV
29:12he was shooting at this car
29:15he had on like some blue like some pens
29:18they like blue jeans or something
29:19and he had on like a jet
29:21like green
29:24what his hat was like
29:25he had a bald head
29:27a high tall
29:28like five
29:31what's his complexion?
29:32dark skin, light skin
29:34he like a little brighter than you
29:37and just only one guy
29:39yes man one guy got out
29:41was he the passenger or the driver?
29:43no he was the driver
29:45all right
29:51why was he so pissed off about it
29:53for you to get out your car
29:55and then come over and try to finish it up
30:05I think we got family walking over to the side
30:09this is the mom of Camden
30:12we'll talk to mom
30:18how did y'all know
30:19the young lady
30:23Camden's mother says a friend of Camden called her with the news
30:26she called my phone
30:28and typically she don't call my phone
30:30yes ma'am
30:31and I said hello
30:33and she said um
30:35miss Carmen you at work
30:36I said yes ma'am
30:38she said I need you to step outside
30:41I said okay
30:42so I stepped outside my job
30:44I said what's going on
30:47and she told me that my baby was dead
30:52she's saying a thing about that she knew about what happened
30:55or what could have caused it or anything like that
30:59you know if he was beefing with anybody or
31:02I don't really know the guy's real name
31:04they call him Jamrock
31:06well I guess back in October
31:08they were saying that Jamrock broke him from my home
31:12Camden
31:12he had told me that they had been exchanging words back and forth
31:16about what he was going to do to him and stuff like that
31:20we're working on that
31:21you'll be the first person once someone is arrested
31:24we will call you first
31:26if you get received information about someone saying this is who did it
31:29or anything like that
31:30of course give me a phone call
31:33all right thank you
31:40then
31:41there's a guy at the hospital
31:44a hospital near the crime scene
31:46has admitted a black male patient
31:48who walked in with a gunshot wound
31:50jack bald head like everybody out here is described
31:55they got the camera in front of the hospital
32:00that's nice
32:19so he actually is shot
32:22the man has a laceration wound across the back of the head
32:26he's not like threatening
32:28and he's dropped off in a black money car
32:34yeah they got
32:35oh he dropped his truck off
32:37the neck he's going to the hospital
32:47as the team wraps up the scene
32:49here they found the vehicle
32:52it's both like an hv
32:55officers find a gray suv matching the description of the suspect vehicle
32:59a half mile away
33:01found it abandoned at 315 avenue
33:06that's some prints or something
33:07it's got to be
33:10patrol should be over there
33:11and they're going to stand by
33:12until we can all make it over there
33:14all right
33:15I'll head over there
33:16they had abandoned house
33:25great job
33:31oh wow
33:33Kiki check this out
33:35call that jackpot
33:39the guy this comes back to
33:41is at the hospital
33:43blood on the vehicle
33:45on the driver's side
33:49you can tell by the laminate on the glass
33:51it was pointing inward
33:53so it would have been the force of the bullet
33:54going into the windshield
33:58it looks like he was shot while he was inside of the car
34:04that gun's still in the car
34:05we're going to have to get a search warrant
34:08this is going to be our SUV that he pretty much stashed
34:12parked the car here
34:13got out
34:14walked away and
34:16probably found
34:17someone to take on
34:20at least we have a possible suspect
34:22you know
34:23hopefully he can give us our why
34:26let's see what we got
34:26that's a hospital
34:36hey man
34:37what's your name
34:38Sergeant Nick Cropot interviews the suspect
34:44so what happened to you then
34:46I pulled up on the inside of you
34:49what
34:50where'd that happen at
34:52I'm on the street
34:54the street he names
34:55runs through the intersection of the crime scene
34:59so were you in a vehicle or on foot or
35:01no I was in my car
35:02gotcha
35:05what kind of car you got
35:08Volkswagen
35:09Volkswagen
35:10what color is that
35:14what happened
35:19did you shoot back or anything
35:21did you have a gun
35:24did you see what kind of car they were in
35:29so where's your car at right now
35:34how did you get here
35:42I went a little out there right
35:44I'll be able to give you a full statement
35:47I'll be able
35:47I mean I ain't trying to not cooperate
35:51all right
35:52hang tight man all right
35:53all right
36:01two hours later
36:04the suspect is brought to headquarters
36:07I think this our guy
36:09I think we do have enough for a full murder
36:12this guy drove his vehicle away from the scene
36:15parked it at another location
36:17I think what I want to know is what's the history
36:21you know behind these two guys
36:25I'm looking at uh trying to find his own friend James David Wilson
36:32James David Wilson the fourth is 38 years old
36:39he was already arrested for murder before
36:43yeah
36:45said he pled guilty
36:47before murder
36:48that's crazy
36:50back in 2007
36:53the 2291 St. Stephen's Road
36:57the previous incident occurred less than a block away from the shooting this afternoon
37:02the double homicide with James Wilson the double homicide with James Wilson back in 2007
37:06happened here
37:08the double homicide with Camden and Van Kennedy is here
37:13directly right across the street from here
37:17it's crazy
37:19Wilson served five years
37:21and was released ten years ago
37:24hopefully you talk as well
37:28all right
37:29let's go talk to him
37:46what's up man let me kiss this chair right here real quick
37:55oh much my dad I ain't my dad I ain't got nothing to say
38:00I got shot in the head man
38:03I'm up here handcuffed
38:05y'all treat me like I'm a person
38:11all right give me a second man
38:12call your pop
38:22hey uh Mr. Wilson
38:23hey uh we're out here talking to your son
38:25and he said uh he want to talk to us
38:27but he wants you to be here with him
38:30he's here at headquarters for our investigation
38:32you want to come down here
38:35all right
38:37he's going to be on his way
38:47James' father arrives with an attorney
38:57he knows what happened
38:59I mean if he want to talk to us
39:00and tell us his version about what happened
39:03maybe we can sit down and do that
39:16he can tell us to kick rocks all day long
39:18he can kick right at the metro gym
39:21call the DA's office
39:22and see what they got to say
39:27hey
39:29Rogers lays out the evidence to the DA
39:35okay
39:35all right
39:36appreciate it
39:39the ADA approved
39:41the charges of two counts of murder
39:43and two counts of shooting
39:45to the occupied vehicle
39:48so that's good
39:50we can get him to a metro jail
39:52let's go
39:52let's go
39:53let's go
39:54let's go
39:58let's go
40:05let's go
40:06let's go
40:06hey Ms. Jackson
40:09uh huh
40:09hey this is Detective Rogers
40:11yes
40:12hey uh I'll just call and tell you that uh
40:14we made an arrest on your son's case
40:17thank you
40:18thank you
40:18so much
40:19the person that was responsible was um
40:23James Wilson
40:24that's the only individual
40:27yes ma'am
40:28I really appreciate that so much
40:32you're welcome
40:33okay
40:34bye
40:38hello
40:39hey Mrs. Williams
40:41yes
40:43okay
40:43Vans mom
40:44yes
40:45okay
40:46uh I was calling to tell you that uh we made an arrest on your son's case
40:50oh you did
40:51that's great
40:53why
40:53why you say he do it
40:56we don't know exactly why he did it
40:59okay
41:00all right
41:01all right
41:01thank you
41:02all right
41:03thank you
41:03all right
41:06the toughest part is to tell them that they're
41:09you know that their loved one is deceased
41:11um
41:11you know
41:13the better part of of this is telling them that you know we actually made an arrest
41:18you know so they don't have to have those sleepless nights wondering you know who killed their loved one who
41:24killed their child
41:38four years later
41:41we learned that jam rock is James Wilson he confirmed there was beef with Camden and uh James
41:56was convicted of a double homicide fifteen years prior he had a duty to retreat he didn't do so he
42:04exited his vehicle and executed both of our victims that were inside their vehicle
42:10that area in Tomeville is a pretty much a busy intersection for you to have a uh shootout during that
42:17time during during daytime it shows that you don't care
42:22but James Wilson was found guilty of capital murder
42:30you
42:32you
42:39you
42:41you
42:42you
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42:43you
42:44you
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