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00:12I think every child is born to do a certain thing I knew I wanted to be a star
00:27with being on the stage just looking out over a sea of faces when they're chanting they're screaming
00:44and I've wanted it because I wanted to be loved that's the real truth I wanted people to truly
00:53love me a lot of people ask who was Michael Jackson really I mean he was a child star who
01:07became the
01:08most famous man on the planet this is a man who changed the music industry I mean he is a
01:22musical
01:22genius but he was also accused of abusing children and died without a cent to his name
01:36I mean this is the ultimate story of power celebrity and money
01:47and now the battle is raging for the truth and Michael Jackson's legacy
02:19that level of mega stardom is not healthy
02:23people are not gods
02:33tonight Jackson is wanted by police of multiple felony counts of child molestation
02:41the Jackson machine just keeps right on rolling
02:46you
03:15are you guys ready for me
03:22whenever you're ready
03:26people don't know my brother they never did they thought they did and I think it's important
03:33for the public the world to see that I don't want to say the truth but from a family member's
03:41perspective and and and and that's that's important to me so you you get it right and you understand
03:48as opposed to reading nonsensical things in the media
03:56what do you do mostly
03:58I mean you know in your spare time
04:01sports
04:01messing around
04:03I go swimming all the time
04:05like swimming
04:07play basketball
04:09catching little things
04:14my memory of Mike is basically a child that was far older than his age
04:26Mike was always just feisty
04:36as young kids we would have a photo shoot
04:40he would stand there and then he would get out the picture and say no put Jermaine here Jackie
04:45and I will be in the middle and this is a little kid talking to his siblings
04:54Northwestern Indiana is not like any other part of the state because it is solely industrial
04:59one factory next to another for miles
05:02the Negro population of Gary Indiana is 45.8 percent the highest percentage in any city north of the Mason
05:08-Dixon line
05:11growing up in Indiana
05:13it was humble beginnings
05:16my father Joseph worked in the steel mills
05:20and we were a large family from a small home
05:25it's two bedrooms
05:26and in one of the rooms the brothers slept
05:29and there were six bunk beds
05:31and my sisters and I we slept on a let out sofa in the living room
05:39we were a family that loved music
05:45and when Mike was around eight or nine
05:48he would do riffs constantly
05:51and no matter what you would sing to him
05:54he would do it even better
05:58my father
05:59he saw them performing together
06:03and he says
06:04geez
06:05he became their manager
06:08because he saw a bigger and brighter future
06:15they used to do shows
06:17what they called back then was the Chitlin Circuit
06:20it was famous black artists
06:22but they were performing for black audience
06:26don't be afraid
06:27don't be ashamed
06:28we want black power
06:29we want black power
06:32we want black power
06:39super form during that period of time was very challenging
06:44based on the fact that we were kind of relegated to certain areas of our country
06:48and not very welcome in some parts
06:54that we learned how to deal with it
06:57and how to bring down the barrier that they thought they put in front of us
07:24I met Michael when they were coming into addition to Beyond Motown
07:30I had to kind of just look at him and shake my head
07:35I said my god
07:36this kid is amazing
07:37it was an exciting time
07:40they wanted it so badly
07:42and then finally
07:44there they are
07:44signed Motown
07:46when I had you to myself
07:48I wanted you around
07:50those pretty faces
07:52I always made you
07:53stand out in the crowd
07:55when someone picked you from the fire
07:58Michael
07:58he had something that
08:00nobody else had
08:02and his performances were
08:05meticulously done
08:07watching their growth
08:09over their years
08:10was sensational
08:13we've got some great guests
08:15the incredible
08:15Jackson 5
08:21one of the hottest recording groups today
08:23is the Jackson 5
08:25the only American group
08:27to have four consecutive number one records
08:30kids nowadays don't know how big the Jackson 5 were
08:36they were our Beatles
08:37our black royalty
08:40you had Beatlemania
08:42you had Jacksonmania
08:46since the heyday of the Beatles
08:47has the music world seen anything like the Jackson 5
08:50about to receive yet another platinum record
08:53but you have to give a lot of the credit
08:55to the original Jackson 2
08:57Mr. and Mrs. Joe Jackson
08:59I decided to deal with the boys
09:01as much as I possibly can
09:03by getting them prepared
09:04to be in show business
09:06they come to us
09:07originally from Gary, Indiana
09:09the Jackson 5
09:14it was just amazing
09:17to see this black family
09:20post-segregation
09:22who were so famous
09:25and that you could identify with
09:28show black people
09:30that we can make it in America
09:43it's called Los Angeles
09:44the city of the angels
09:48people from all over the world
09:50drawn by a city of limitless boundaries
09:53and one that offers unlimited opportunity
10:03growing up in Indiana
10:04Mike would have this little projector thing
10:07that you put over your eyes
10:08and you would click it
10:10and it would show a different slide of LA
10:12he would say
10:13oh this is so beautiful
10:15I would love to live there one day
10:18so moving to Los Angeles
10:21was simply amazing
10:24we were so elated and excited
10:27just to see the beauty of the city
10:31and it was such a different life
10:36we moved to this huge mansion
10:39and my father just said
10:41I think this will be a perfect place
10:46and you know
10:47what my father said
10:47it goes
10:50let's introduce
10:51Mr. Joe Jackson
10:52the father
10:54thank you
10:56thank you
10:57thank you
10:58thank you
10:59thank you
11:03okay
11:04we're gonna find out
11:05who's boss around here
11:06do you
11:07do you have to ever
11:08discipline this lively group
11:11you've got here
11:11I have a way
11:13you know
11:13like
11:13when Randy don't do right
11:15we make him take out
11:16all the garbage or something
11:18yeah
11:18that's fair
11:19yeah but what about Michael
11:21if Michael
11:22Michael always does right
11:23is he always
11:24no not all the time
11:25the way we
11:26discipline
11:27Michael is sort of like
11:29yeah
11:29we don't
11:30give him this much money
11:31to spend
11:32that's it
11:34you think it's a good profession
11:36for them
11:37yes
11:37I like for them to
11:39I moved to Los Angeles
11:42to work
11:43for the family
11:44out of Joseph's office
11:47when Joseph spoke to me
11:50about coming to work
11:51for the boys
11:52he presented himself
11:53as a really concerned
11:55loving father
11:59Joseph grew up dirt poor
12:01before civil rights
12:05and to take
12:06from nothing
12:07and build that act
12:09was huge
12:10and all of a sudden
12:12now he's living
12:13in a wealthy house
12:14in Encino
12:15he's got a Rolls Royce
12:17he really
12:19was chasing
12:20the American dream
12:24at that point
12:26they were portrayed
12:26as this happy
12:27loving family
12:29but
12:31my experience
12:32can't speak
12:33for anybody else's
12:34but my experience
12:35of what I saw
12:35that was
12:36that was the farthest
12:37thing from the truth
12:39I
12:40went to high school
12:41with Michael's
12:42baby sister Janet
12:44and Michael was
12:45also a very close friend
12:47when I would be there
12:49and Joseph would pull in
12:51you know
12:52the speaker
12:52or the phone would ring
12:53and it would be like
12:54Joseph's here
12:54and everyone's like
12:55oh god Joseph's here
12:56we weren't that
12:57you know
12:58savvy back then
12:59about this stuff
13:00but
13:01knowing that there
13:02was just weirdness
13:06our career
13:08was very important
13:10my father made sure
13:12that we rehearsed
13:12every day
13:14lock all the doors
13:15it's time to rehearse
13:18if you
13:18if you went out of step
13:19you'd get it
13:20real bad
13:23he would oil you down
13:25your whole ritual
13:26he would oil you down
13:29so when
13:29when the foot
13:30of the
13:31of the ironing cord
13:33hit you
13:33it would just
13:34you know
13:35and your foot's
13:36all over your face
13:37your back
13:37everywhere
13:40he said
13:41if you guys
13:41ever stop sinking
13:42I'll drop you
13:43like a hot potato
13:47I found out later
13:49Joseph
13:51had done some
13:52really awful stuff
13:54Joseph would put
13:55Michael in the closet
13:57in the dressing room
13:58in the dark
14:00and lock it
14:01so that he was
14:03he would do what
14:04Joseph would tell him
14:06to do
14:08and
14:09nobody figured out
14:11what was going on
14:18he wasn't as cruel
14:20as people think
14:21but
14:21Mike had a fear
14:23my father
14:23we all did
14:24because we
14:26we felt
14:26okay
14:27what did we do wrong
14:30he's going to
14:31discipline us
14:31and you were
14:32kind of afraid of that
14:33it just
14:34put something
14:35in your belly
14:36and you would
14:37say to yourself
14:39oh no
14:40his eyebrows
14:42would go up
14:43and his eyes
14:44would turn
14:46a deeper green
14:48a deeper green
14:49than they were
14:50and you knew
14:51he was angry
14:52everybody would say
14:53I don't want to
14:54get in trouble
14:55because Joseph's
14:55going to strangle us
15:07we're right
15:07almost in the middle
15:08of a recording session
15:10with the Jacksons
15:11and we're going to
15:12bring the boys in
15:13right now
15:14all five of them
15:16here they are
15:25now I don't
15:26have to give
15:27any introduction
15:28to these gentlemen
15:28do I
15:29you knew them
15:30originally as
15:31the Jackson 5
15:32they're the
15:33Jacksons now
15:34they record
15:34on Epic
15:38this is really
15:39a special picture
15:40to me
15:42both of our hair
15:43was kind of big
15:43see his face
15:45looks completely
15:45different
15:46so this was
15:46earlier I guess
15:48he still looks
15:49like a great
15:49looking kid
15:50you know
15:52when the Jackson 5
15:53came to Epic
15:54they were a good
15:56pop group
15:58but Michael
15:59was so much
16:00the center of it
16:01the star
16:05he just wanted
16:06to be perfect
16:07in a way
16:08he wanted to be
16:09the best dancer
16:10ever
16:11best singer
16:12best entertainer
16:14he wanted
16:15to be a great
16:16you guys
16:17you guys are
16:17really riding
16:18a big high
16:18now as far as
16:19producing records
16:20and so on
16:21do you think
16:21this is the peak
16:22of your career
16:23now or
16:23have you gone
16:24down a little bit
16:25are you expecting
16:25bigger and better
16:26things
16:26well we're looking
16:27forward to doing
16:28other things
16:28like producing
16:29other people
16:30and producing
16:32ourselves
16:32in the future
16:33and going into
16:34acting
16:34and that type
16:46new york
16:47is the most
16:47exciting city
16:48in the world
16:48but new york
16:50has never seen
16:50anything like
16:51the whiz
16:52a new musical
16:53motion picture
16:54being made here
16:54that stars
16:55diana ross
16:58the whiz
16:59was the black
17:00version of
17:01the wizard of oz
17:03and michael
17:04really wanted
17:05to be in
17:05that movie
17:10my father
17:11didn't want him
17:12to venture off
17:13into movies
17:15because he felt
17:16it would break
17:17up the group
17:18and he would
17:18go in a
17:19different direction
17:19and he wanted
17:21to keep the
17:21brothers together
17:22as he always
17:24said i want to
17:24keep my boys
17:25together
17:25but this is
17:26something that
17:27mike saw
17:28he loved
17:29opportunity
17:30and he went
17:31for it
17:42how did you
17:43feel when you
17:44heard you got
17:44the part in
17:45the whiz
17:45and especially
17:46playing with
17:46diana ross
17:47i was um
17:48very happy
17:49i would talk
17:50to diana on
17:51the phone i
17:51say you're
17:52gonna film the
17:52whiz next week
17:53huh or
17:54next month
17:55she would
17:56say yeah
17:56next thing
17:56i noticed
17:57i was in
17:58it
18:01mike and i
18:02were extremely
18:03close
18:05so we moved
18:07to new york
18:07together
18:11and going to
18:12set every day
18:14he just
18:16embraced it
18:17with great
18:17joy
18:18but most
18:19of all
18:19what he
18:20would always
18:20say i'm
18:21learning so
18:21much latoya
18:22you have
18:23no idea
18:23hey fellas
18:24is today
18:25today you
18:25gonna help
18:26me get
18:26down from
18:26here
18:27help you
18:28down
18:28what is
18:29going down
18:31in that
18:31hayloft
18:32you call
18:33ahead
18:35living in
18:37new york
18:38we were
18:39so used
18:40to being
18:41with family
18:43being controlled
18:44by my
18:45father
18:46but yet you
18:47could do
18:47what you
18:48wanted
18:50it was
18:51so
18:52wonderful
19:07is michael
19:08there
19:09hi michael
19:10come on
19:10you can
19:10come right
19:11in
19:11hi
19:11how are
19:12you
19:13you just
19:14walked in
19:14how are
19:15you
19:15michael
19:15this is
19:16jane
19:16sit
19:17over
19:17here
19:18it's
19:19been a
19:19long
19:19day
19:20for you
19:20and you're
19:20unwinding
19:21here
19:22you mean
19:22today
19:23no we're
19:24all finished
19:24with the
19:25movie
19:25but i'm
19:26just relaxing
19:27now
19:27just hanging
19:28out in
19:29new york
19:29yes
19:29studio
19:3054
19:31when you
19:32hear the
19:32name
19:32studio
19:3354
19:33what
19:34what does
19:34that do
19:35does it
19:35your pulse
19:36quicken
19:36and your
19:36beats
19:36start
19:37moving
19:37yeah i'm
19:38ready to
19:38have a good
19:38time
19:39it's where
19:40you come
19:40when you
19:40want to
19:41skate
19:42it's really
19:43escapism
19:44sure michael
19:45jackson you
19:46don't have
19:46it so bad
19:46what are you
19:47escaping from
19:48i'm not
19:48escaping from
19:49anything it's
19:50just a change
19:50of pace
19:51right it is
19:52he doesn't
19:53escape from
19:54anything
19:54if anything
19:55he's one of
19:55those people
19:56who very
19:56recognized
19:57doing the
19:57whiz
19:58and all the
19:59work that
20:00he had
20:01done
20:04and the
20:05growth
20:05that came
20:06with it
20:09took him
20:10mentally
20:11in a
20:12different
20:12direction
20:13saying i
20:14want to
20:14do a
20:15solo
20:15album
20:23by michael
20:24by michael
20:24doing the
20:24whiz
20:25he had a
20:26chance to
20:26meet
20:26great
20:27composer
20:28arranger
20:28quincy
20:29jones
20:34and
20:35quincy
20:36i work
20:36with
20:36sinatra
20:37i mean
20:38greatest
20:39music
20:39people
20:39ever
20:44i called
20:45quincy up
20:46one day
20:46i said
20:46quincy
20:47i'm ready
20:48to do
20:48an album
20:48a solo
20:49album
20:49but i
20:51want a
20:51real good
20:52producer
20:52to work
20:53with me
20:54i said
20:55can you
20:55recommend
20:55somebody
20:57and he
20:58said
20:58why don't
20:59you let
20:59me do
20:59it
21:15i remember
21:16getting a
21:16copy
21:16of off
21:17the wall
21:18and when
21:19i heard
21:20don't stop
21:20forget enough
21:22i was just
21:22astonished to
21:24hear
21:24oh my gosh
21:26i said
21:26michael
21:27this is
21:27going to
21:27be
21:29it's
21:30going to
21:30be
21:30phenomenal
21:32this is
21:33the album
21:33that's
21:34caused
21:34the storm
21:34right
21:35around
21:35the world
21:36it's
21:36michael's
21:36off
21:37the
21:37wall
21:37album
21:37and
21:38hopefully
21:38we've
21:39got
21:39michael
21:39in
21:40la
21:40on
21:40the
21:40phone
21:41now
21:41let's
21:42have
21:42a
21:42oh
21:42here
21:43we
21:43go
21:43hello
21:44michael
21:44hello
21:45how are
21:46you
21:49he's
21:49the first
21:50artist
21:50to have
21:51four
21:51top
21:52ten
21:52singles
21:53with
21:53his
21:53off
21:53the
21:53wall
21:53album
21:54he
21:54keeps
21:54breaking
21:55records
21:55it's
21:56just
21:56amazing
22:04it had
22:05to
22:05happen
22:07i feel
22:08like
22:08i love
22:08a lot
22:09he had
22:10earned
22:11the right
22:12to be
22:13michael
22:18who
22:19felt
22:19that
22:19it's
22:20now
22:20my
22:20time
22:49let's get the
22:51never
22:51afraid
22:51never
22:52afraid
22:52it's a lot
22:53of
22:53excitement
22:53and
22:54it's
22:55nice
22:55to see
22:55the fans
22:55all come
22:56out
22:57to greet
22:57us at
22:57the airport
22:58i think
22:58it's
22:59wonderful
23:01what
23:01what do you
23:01have to say
23:02for atlanta
23:03i'll start
23:04here
23:04love it
23:05i can't
23:06wait
23:06tomorrow
23:06night
23:08i love
23:08it
23:09we love
23:10you atlanta
23:11love you
23:11very much
23:12tomorrow
23:12night
23:12everybody
23:13be out
23:13there
23:13we're
23:14gonna
23:14do
23:14our
23:14best
23:14have
23:15a good
23:15time
23:26at this
23:27point
23:27michael
23:28really is
23:28kind of
23:28the
23:28mainstay
23:29of the
23:29jacksons
23:29has it
23:30always
23:30been
23:30that
23:30way
23:33yes
23:34yes
23:35michael
23:35has always
23:35been
23:36sort of
23:36the
23:36star
23:36yeah
23:37he's
23:37been
23:38highlighted
23:38most
23:38because
23:38he's
23:39a lead
23:39singer
23:39and
23:39he's
23:40up
23:40front
23:40you
23:40know
23:41as a
23:42little
23:42kid
23:42we
23:42put
23:42him
23:42up
23:43front
23:43because
23:43he
23:43danced
23:43so
23:44much
23:44and
23:44had
23:44so
23:44much
23:45energy
23:50i think
23:51my
23:52brothers
23:53some
23:54of them
23:54felt
23:54that
23:55once
23:56he
23:56do
23:56this
23:57he's
23:58never
23:58coming
23:58back
24:00he's
24:00gonna
24:00abandon
24:01us
24:03and
24:04that
24:05was
24:05kind
24:05of
24:06disturbing
24:06to
24:07some
24:07of
24:07them
24:07and
24:08then
24:08the
24:08others
24:09were
24:09just
24:09well
24:10let's
24:11see
24:11where
24:11it
24:11goes
24:11let's
24:12see
24:12where
24:12it
24:12leads
24:19i
24:19remember
24:20the
24:20boys
24:20being
24:20in
24:21the
24:21office
24:21and
24:22one
24:23of
24:23them
24:23distinctly
24:24said
24:25if it
24:25wasn't
24:25for
24:26them
24:26michael
24:26wouldn't
24:27be
24:27who
24:27he
24:27was
24:28because
24:28they
24:28were
24:29the
24:29ones
24:30and
24:30joseph
24:31was
24:31the
24:31one
24:32who
24:32made
24:32michael
24:33who
24:33he
24:33is
24:33and
24:34he
24:34basically
24:35wouldn't
24:35be
24:35shit
24:35without
24:36them
24:36and
24:37it
24:37was
24:37them
24:38that
24:38built
24:39him
24:39and
24:39michael's
24:39just
24:39sitting
24:40there
24:40listening
24:40to
24:40this
24:43and
24:43he
24:43sat
24:44there
24:44and
24:44he
24:44took
24:44it
24:44i
24:45just
24:46remember
24:46thinking
24:47how
24:48mean
24:48why
24:48are
24:48you
24:48guys
24:49being
24:49so
24:49mean
24:49to
24:49him
24:50i
24:50just
24:51i
24:51wanted
24:51to
24:51go
24:51in
24:52and
24:52like
24:52hurt
24:53them
24:54because
24:54they
24:54were
24:54being
24:54mean
24:55to
24:55mike
25:00i
25:00think
25:01michael
25:01had
25:01grown
25:02up
25:02feeling
25:02under
25:03joseph
25:04that
25:04he
25:05wasn't
25:05anything
25:05more
25:06than
25:06a
25:06commodity
25:07and
25:08i
25:08think
25:08in
25:09that
25:09moment
25:09it
25:10crystallized
25:10for michael
25:11that he
25:11was
25:11nothing
25:12more
25:12than
25:12a
25:12commodity
25:13to
25:13his
25:13brothers
25:13and
25:14i
25:14think
25:15it
25:15broke
25:15his
25:16heart
25:41if
25:42things
25:42got
25:42difficult
25:43for
25:43mike
25:44he
25:45always
25:45had
25:46a
25:46very
25:46loving
25:46relationship
25:47with
25:48with
25:48my
25:48mother
25:49it
25:49was
25:50a
25:50very
25:52trusted
25:53relationship
25:55if
25:56if
25:56something
25:57upset
25:57him
25:57she
25:58would
25:58always
25:59make
25:59sense
25:59out
26:00of
26:00everything
26:03my
26:17mother
26:18was
26:19a
26:20very
26:20religious
26:21person
26:21she
26:23was
26:23a
26:23Jehovah
26:24witness
26:26and
26:26she
26:27always
26:28thought
26:28if you
26:29had a
26:29personal
26:29relationship
26:30with
26:30god
26:31then he
26:32would
26:32show
26:32you
26:33away
26:45it's
26:45strange
26:45being
26:46back
26:46here
26:46i
26:47haven't
26:47looked
26:47here
26:47for
26:47many
26:48years
26:50yeah
26:50it
26:50was
26:51such
26:51a
26:51strange
26:51time
26:52you
26:52know
26:52with
26:52michael
26:52being
26:53suddenly
26:54so
26:54famous
26:55and
26:56we're
26:56just
26:57going
26:57door
26:58to
26:58door
26:58trying
26:58to
26:58save
26:58souls
27:00michael
27:00would
27:00say
27:01hi
27:02my
27:02name
27:02is
27:02Joe
27:03his
27:03middle
27:04name
27:04so
27:04he
27:04wasn't
27:04lying
27:05this
27:06is
27:06my
27:06friend
27:06christian
27:07we're
27:07here
27:07to
27:07talk
27:07to
27:07you
27:07about
27:07the
27:08wonderful
27:08hope
27:08of
27:09god's
27:09kingdom
27:10and
27:11the
27:11people
27:11would
27:11kind
27:11of
27:11stare
27:12they
27:13would
27:13think
27:14that
27:14guy
27:15really
27:15looks
27:16like
27:16michael
27:16jackson
27:17you
27:17can
27:17kind
27:17of
27:17see
27:17it
27:17in
27:17their
27:18eyes
27:21the
27:21Jehovah's
27:22witnesses
27:22are
27:24millennialists
27:24so
27:24they
27:25believe
27:25that
27:25Armageddon
27:26is
27:26coming
27:27any
27:27day
27:27now
27:27when
27:28God
27:28is
27:28going
27:33Jehovah's
27:33witnesses
27:33was
27:33to
27:34go
27:34door
27:34to
27:34door
27:34and
27:35try
27:35to
27:35recruit
27:36people
27:36to
27:36save
27:36them
27:36so
27:37that
27:37they
27:37could
27:37join
27:38our
27:38religion
27:38and
27:39hopefully
27:40make
27:40it
27:40into
27:40the
27:41paradise
27:41that
27:41was
27:41going
27:41to
27:42come
27:44michael
27:45had
27:45a
27:45tough
27:45upbringing
27:45and
27:46I
27:46think
27:46that
27:47he
27:47had
27:47a
27:48fantastical
27:49view
27:49of
27:50what
27:50he
27:50wanted
27:51the
27:51world
27:51to
27:51be
27:52and
27:53I
27:53think
27:53this
27:53idea
27:54of
27:55God
27:56bringing
27:56a
27:57paradise
27:57just
27:57was
27:58very
27:58appealing
27:58and
27:59I
27:59think
27:59that
27:59was
27:59a
27:59big
28:00part
28:00of
28:00his
28:00enthusiasm
28:01for
28:01going
28:01door
28:01to
28:01door
28:01he
28:02genuinely
28:02wanted
28:03to
28:03tell
28:03people
28:05we
28:05did
28:05missionary
28:06work
28:06door
28:07to
28:07door
28:09you do
28:0990
28:10hours
28:10a
28:10month
28:11it
28:12was
28:12just
28:12a
28:12wonderful
28:13time
28:13for
28:13me
28:13because
28:14it
28:14allowed
28:14me
28:14to
28:15get
28:15out
28:15into
28:15society
28:16and
28:16to
28:16see
28:16people
28:17I
28:18was
28:18totally
28:18deprived
28:18of
28:19seeing
28:19people
28:20open
28:20their
28:20door
28:20I
28:21don't
28:21go
28:21to
28:21other
28:21people's
28:22houses
28:22I
28:22know
28:22what
28:23they
28:23live
28:23like
28:23so
28:24when
28:24they
28:24would
28:24open
28:24the
28:24door
28:24and
28:25say
28:25come
28:26in
28:26I
28:26would
28:27come
28:27in
28:30I
28:30was
28:3115
28:31when
28:32we
28:33started
28:33hanging
28:33out
28:34together
28:35I
28:35think
28:36he
28:36felt
28:36safe
28:36with
28:36us
28:37because
28:38he
28:38had
28:38no
28:38other
28:39space
28:39where
28:40he
28:40didn't
28:40have
28:40something
28:41some
28:41place
28:42where
28:42people
28:42wanted
28:42something
28:43from
28:43him
28:43because
28:44of
28:44his
28:44fame
28:44we
28:45just
28:45liked
28:45him
28:46because
28:46of
28:46who
28:46he
28:46was
28:47and
28:47that
28:47he
28:47was
28:47part
28:48of
28:48this
28:48joint
28:49community
28:49where
28:49we
28:50were
28:50all
28:50working
28:50to
28:51do
28:51God's
28:51will
28:55but
28:55at
28:56the
28:56same
28:56time
28:56I
28:57think
28:57he
28:57was
28:57conflicted
28:58about
28:58who
28:58he
28:58was
29:00because
29:00even
29:01though
29:01he
29:01was
29:01very
29:02devout
29:03I
29:04think
29:04Michael
29:04had
29:05a lot
29:05of
29:05ambition
29:06around
29:07being
29:08perceived
29:09as
29:11very
29:11successful
29:12very
29:12talented
29:13he
29:13was
29:13raised
29:14in
29:14this
29:14paradigm
29:14where
29:14success
29:15is
29:15how
29:16you
29:16get
29:16validation
29:16right
29:17and
29:17and
29:17from
29:18the
29:18time
29:18he
29:18was
29:18a
29:18little
29:19kid
29:19so
29:19I
29:19don't
29:19think
29:19he
29:19ever
29:20lost
29:20that
29:20Michael
29:21sometimes
29:21would
29:21stand
29:21in
29:22front
29:22of
29:22a
29:22mirror
29:22and
29:23say
29:23100
29:23million
29:24100
29:24million
29:25because
29:26he
29:26wanted
29:26to
29:27sell
29:27100
29:27million
29:28albums
29:28on
29:29his
29:29next
29:29album
29:29and
29:30I
29:30think
29:30that
29:31really
29:33fed
29:33him
29:54Michael
29:55Michael's
29:55ambition
29:56was to
29:58make
29:58the
29:58greatest
29:59album
30:00ever
30:00heard
30:01but
30:03he
30:04also
30:04knew
30:05the
30:05power
30:06of
30:07motion
30:07pictures
30:09he
30:10wanted
30:11to
30:11use
30:11video
30:11to
30:12drive
30:13sales
30:13I
30:14mean
30:14rock
30:14bands
30:15have
30:15been
30:15doing
30:15that
30:15for
30:15years
30:20I'm
30:20not
30:20like
30:20other
30:21guys
30:23I
30:23mean
30:23I'm
30:24different
30:26I'm
30:30a
30:30monster
30:39Michael
30:39I
30:39think
30:40this
30:40is
30:40going
30:40to
30:40be
30:40the
30:40Citizen
30:40Kane
30:41of
30:41the
30:41videos
30:42I
30:42really
30:42do
30:43it's
30:43going
30:43to
30:43be
30:43the
30:44most
30:44revolutionary
30:44thing
30:45in
30:45the
30:45history
30:45of
30:46the
30:46videos
30:47you know
30:50I
30:51mean
30:51it's
30:51a new
30:51art
30:52farm
30:52now
30:52but
30:52I
30:52think
30:52this
30:53is
30:53leading
30:53the
30:53way
30:53beat
30:53it
30:54and
30:54this
30:54one
30:54is
30:54leading
30:54the
30:54way
31:00great
31:00looking
31:00kid
31:04filmmakers
31:05they usually
31:05know
31:06when they
31:06have
31:07something
31:08and
31:08I
31:08knew
31:08we
31:09had
31:09something
31:11music
31:11video
31:12was
31:12new
31:12at
31:13time
31:13and
31:14this
31:14is
31:15pre
31:15internet
31:17and
31:18Michael's
31:18videos
31:19were
31:19special
31:20you
31:21could
31:21tell
31:26some
31:27prominent
31:27black
31:27musicians
31:28are
31:28complaining
31:28that
31:29they
31:29are
31:29being
31:29left
31:30out
31:30of
31:30the
31:30video
31:30market
31:31specifically
31:31the
31:32music
31:32television
31:32cable
31:33operation
31:33we
31:34are
31:34looking
31:35for
31:35a
31:35certain
31:35sound
31:36and
31:36a
31:36certain
31:36point
31:36of
31:36view
31:37Bob
31:38Pittman
31:38is
31:38the
31:3929
31:39year
31:39old
31:39whiz
31:40kid
31:40who
31:40created
31:41MTV
31:41after
31:42a
31:42successful
31:42career
31:42as a
31:43radio
31:43station
31:44program
31:44director
31:44we
31:45are
31:45not
31:45all
31:46things
31:46to
31:46all
31:46people
31:46we
31:47are
31:47cable
31:47television
31:48and
31:48what
31:48cable
31:49television
31:49does
31:49best
31:50is
31:50specialize
31:50one
31:51thing
31:51per
31:51channel
31:52so
31:52you
31:53know
31:53exactly
31:53what
31:54you're
31:54getting
31:54when
31:54you
31:54turn
31:54on
31:54the
31:55channel
31:56it
31:56was
31:56almost
31:57impossible
31:57for
31:57a
31:58black
31:58artist
31:58to
31:58get
31:58on
31:59the
31:59cover
31:59of
32:00any
32:00of
32:00the
32:01major
32:02magazines
32:02or
32:03TV
32:03shows
32:04over
32:04Christmas
32:05I
32:05watched
32:05MTV
32:06I
32:06saw
32:07no
32:07black
32:08star
32:08plenty
32:09of
32:09black
32:09stars
32:10but
32:10only
32:10black
32:10stars
32:11who
32:11do
32:11rock
32:11and
32:11roll
32:13and
32:13MTV
32:14refused
32:14to play
32:15Michael's
32:15videos
32:17he
32:18was
32:19outraged
32:19it was
32:20pure
32:20blatant
32:21racism
32:21plain
32:22and
32:22simple
32:23prejudice
32:24is
32:25ignorance
32:27music
32:27has no
32:28color
32:28I don't
32:29believe
32:29in that
32:29what I
32:30do
32:30I
32:30don't
32:31want
32:31it
32:31labeled
32:31black
32:32or
32:32white
32:32I
32:33want
32:33it
32:33labeled
32:33it
32:34music
32:34a
32:35few
32:35of
32:36us
32:36at
32:36epic
32:37and
32:37the
32:37president
32:38of
32:38CBS
32:38records
32:39we
32:40all
32:40went
32:40up
32:40there
32:40and
32:41explained
32:41why
32:42they
32:42had
32:42to
32:42play
32:43those
32:43videos
32:43they
32:44said
32:45you
32:45can't
32:45continue
32:46with
32:46a
32:47program
32:47like
32:47this
32:48without
32:48honoring
32:49some
32:49of
32:49the
32:49best
32:50music
32:50that
32:51America
32:51has
32:51to
32:52offer
32:52and
32:52some
32:53of
32:53the
32:53best
32:53music
32:53America
32:54has
32:54to
33:00they
33:00only
33:01could
33:01look
33:01at
33:01the
33:01bottom
33:02line
33:02and
33:02say
33:02you
33:03can't
33:03ignore
33:03these
33:04tracks
33:04and
33:05once
33:05they
33:05played
33:06Michael
33:08it
33:08took
33:09off
33:15Michael
33:16Jackson's
33:16album
33:16Thriller
33:17has
33:17been
33:17topping
33:18various
33:18record
33:18charts
33:19so
33:19it
33:19should
33:20come
33:20as
33:20no
33:20surprise
33:21that
33:21Thriller
33:21is
33:22number
33:22one
33:22on
33:22Billboard's
33:23chart
33:23of
33:24most
33:24successful
33:24pop
33:25albums
33:25well
33:26the
33:26title
33:27song
33:27from
33:27that
33:27blockbuster
33:28album
33:28now
33:28the
33:28subject
33:29of
33:29the
33:29most
33:29talked
33:29about
33:30music
33:30video
33:30to
33:30come
33:31along
33:31take
33:31a
33:32look
33:32at
33:32this
33:35Thriller
33:36was
33:36an
33:36amazing
33:37piece
33:38of
33:38work
33:38like
33:40everybody
33:40loved
33:41it
33:41and
33:42it
33:42just
33:42got
33:43bigger
33:44and
33:44bigger
33:46Michael
33:49Jackson
33:50was
33:50partying
33:50in
33:51New York
33:51the
33:51occasion
33:52for
33:52selling
33:5223
33:53million
33:53albums
33:54he
33:55exploded
33:57everybody
33:58wanted a
33:58piece
33:59piece of
33:59him
33:59everyone
33:59wanted to
34:00see him
34:02Michael
34:03Jackson
34:03thriller
34:04is now
34:05the highest
34:05selling
34:06solo
34:06album
34:07in the
34:08history
34:08of
34:08recorded
34:09music
34:14he is
34:15simply put
34:15probably the
34:16most exciting
34:17and intense
34:18performer of the
34:18decade
34:21you had
34:22something
34:23within
34:23your
34:23records
34:24that
34:25everybody
34:26just
34:26loves
34:26well
34:27I
34:28couldn't
34:29say
34:29I
34:29just
34:29created
34:30it
34:31where
34:32do you
34:32think
34:32the gift
34:33came
34:33from
34:33God
34:42he
34:44he
35:02Ladies and gentlemen, may I have your attention?
35:07I have your attention right now.
35:12I am saying for the last time, as chairman of the Walk of Fame, if you do not back up,
35:20this ceremony will be canceled.
35:26Ladies and gentlemen, Michael Jackson, and may I welcome you to the Walk of Fame.
35:39The Thriller album was fantastic.
35:42It was far exceeding anyone's expectations about how big it was going to be.
35:46And Michael was becoming sort of transcendent as a pop star.
35:52But he was still very idealistic, very devout.
36:01I mean, nobody had been that famous in the Jehovah's Witnesses yet.
36:07It was very much at odds for the church, for someone to be famous,
36:10because any kind of notoriety could be considered controversial, potentially.
36:15Even his deciding to do the Thriller video, the church was very paranoid about any demon influence
36:22and anything, the demonology.
36:24And so zombies rising from the dead or anything related to the occult.
36:28Suddenly, the hammer came down from the headquarters of the church.
36:32And so when he realized that this was going to be a problem for him, he panicked.
36:37But he wrote,
36:38Due to my strong personal convictions, I wish to stress that this film in no way endorses a belief in
36:44the occult.
36:44And he had to put that at the beginning of the video in order to get the church to go,
36:49OK, you can release it.
36:52It really created some tension.
36:55On the one hand, fame brought him all this opportunity.
36:59And I think he liked the adulation.
37:01It was very validating.
37:02But I think he started to feel handicapped by the fact that he couldn't pursue all his creative stuff,
37:07that the church was constantly tightening the screws and saying,
37:10No, you can't do this.
37:11No, you can't do that.
37:13And later on, he just made a decision.
37:18He disassociated himself, which basically meant he was leaving the church.
37:23You know, I left the church in 1990.
37:26And when you leave, you know, the church completely cuts you off.
37:29You know, you lose your whole foundation.
37:31You lose your family, all of your friends.
37:33You're really adrift in so many ways.
37:37And when he left, he lost the thing that had grounded him for so long.
37:48How long have you had this beautiful beast?
37:51Gosh.
37:52A little bit before Thriller, I had him.
37:55Sorry about.
37:56Almost a year.
37:57Almost a year now.
37:58And this type of snake is not dangerous?
38:01Well, I don't think so.
38:03Some people wouldn't.
38:04Could it be dangerous?
38:04They squeeze, yeah.
38:05They squeeze.
38:06They can really squeeze.
38:11I think it's great.
38:12What other animals do you have?
38:15After Thriller, I saw a completely different Michael Jackson.
38:23I was his personal cinematographer from 1981 to 1987.
38:32And when I first met him, Michael was really humble.
38:39He was a true cool dude.
38:43But after the Thriller album, his personality started to get a little bit different, more eccentric.
39:04I could see he enjoyed being around kids.
39:33Out of nowhere, Michael's good friend was Emanuel Lewis.
39:40Emanuel Lewis was a star of the TV show Webster.
39:48And then one day, Michael calls me up.
39:50He goes, I need you to come over.
39:53So I get there, and he has Emanuel with him.
39:58They're dancing to one of his new songs that never, ever was released.
40:04And he's holding him like a baby.
40:15And I could see Michael had a connection with children.
40:21When a child steps in the room, I'm totally changed.
40:26I feel their energy, and I feel their spirit.
40:31When I look in their eyes, I feel healed.
40:44What I saw, Michael liked kids because of the fact that they weren't domineering.
40:53They weren't asking for something, you know, because you had too many of these producer bigwigs coming over.
41:04They were what I called and what he called suits, and when the suits would come over, it was a
41:11different atmosphere because they wanted something.
41:16But then Michael got so big, now it's just a business.
41:25Jackson's image has been pressed into plastic.
41:27In a short six months since they first came on the market, Michael Jackson toys, dolls, and other products have
41:33been selling with a fury.
41:35Jackson has become a mini conglomerate.
41:37He is setting up five separate companies to handle his business interests.
41:41Albums, video cassettes, concert tours, merchandising tie-ins.
41:45This year, Michael Jackson is expected to earn more than $50 million.
41:50Michael Jackson made recording business history today by closing the deal on the Beatles catalog.
41:56From now on, all those royalties go to Jackson.
41:59Michael Jackson has a new manager.
42:02Jackson has hired the vice president of promotion for Epic Records, Frank DeLeo, to manage his booming career.
42:08Formerly, Jackson was managed by his father, Joseph Jackson.
42:15Mike decided to end the relationship with my father.
42:20And his thinking and his thoughts were, I need a manager who's much bigger and better, and someone who really
42:27knows what they're doing in this big industry.
42:32But I think the part that became difficult was the people that entered into his life.
42:41Because this business can be very overwhelming, cutthroat.
42:46And people will say and do anything to get into your circle and to manage you.
42:53And that part of it destroyed him.
43:02Michael Jackson has not a song on his lips, but a bottle of Pepsi-Cola.
43:07This week, he signed up for $5 million or more to promote Pepsi in concerts and commercials.
43:14A lot of people are asking, why would Michael Jackson do commercials?
43:18Well, the reason is, is that these commercials are going to be just extraordinary.
43:22They're using state-of-the-art technology.
43:25They're going to be creative masterpieces.
43:27No expenses spared.
43:29They asked me to direct them because I had success and a relationship with Michael.
43:38We were going to shoot two promotional commercials, even though Michael confessed to me that he never drank Pepsi in
43:46his life.
43:47We went down there and started shooting.
43:50And the plan was, there was an explosion.
43:53Michael would come down and dance.
43:56The pyrotechnics added too much.
44:00And all hell broke loose.
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44:41The scene was wild as hundreds of fans tried to see Michael Jackson as he was carried into
44:46a Los Angeles area hospital with second and third degree burns on his scalp.
45:09I'll never forget the image of Michael being taken away in the stretcher, but smart enough
45:14to take his glove, the famous glove, and wave it.
45:20But it was the beginning of a dark time.
45:46I remember in the early years, Michael would just come out and hang out.
45:50It was just, it was casual.
45:52It was normal.
45:55But at that point, Michael started going out a lot less.
46:05Everybody was, like, worried.
46:08He would call all the time.
46:11He would constantly reflect back on things from his childhood.
46:20I was always trying to be perfect.
46:25Trying to impress my father.
46:30And I wanted him to be proud of me, but he would never say it.
46:37He used to make fun of me.
46:41You look so black.
46:43You don't look like my child.
46:47You look big.
46:47This is poor.
46:48You got a big nose.
46:53You don't realize how much it hurt.
46:57I wanted to just die.
47:08When I went to the house, after the Pepsi burn, with Michael, there were some times where we would talk,
47:17and he would come a little close.
47:19And then I would say to myself, what is on his nose, and those were stitches, physically or visually, that
47:28you could see that it had been, you know, worked on.
47:32I have a shot of Michael when he's leaving the Havenhurst house, and that was what I saw the change.
47:39You know, the transition from the Negro look to look like something different.
47:52It was heartbreaking.
47:55Michael was trying to erase something off of his face, and it was all the nastiness and all the things
48:02that Joseph said about him.
48:04But I think that set Michael on a very unhealthy pattern and path for the rest of his life when
48:09it came to facial reconstruction and his skin color.
48:16But I don't think anybody was prepared for how extreme it would get.
48:51How is this right?
48:53How is this right?
49:07Not since Thriller five years ago has the record industry been so focused on a single album.
49:13It's called Bad.
49:15It's Michael Jackson and Bad right here on Kiss FM.
49:23They were queuing all over America, snapping up the first copies of Michael Jackson's latest offering.
49:29But after five years of comparative seclusion, he's changed his image.
49:34It's a lot of talk. A lot of people are talking about it and how foolish he looks.
49:39The look.
49:41Well, the new look is not too hot, but the album is great and he's a great entertainer.
49:48I was a fan of Michael Jackson's. I was a kid from, you know, the Jacksons, you know, I loved
49:56off the wall.
49:59I was a talent manager at the firm that managed Michael Jackson.
50:04And it was our job to manage his career and public image.
50:08I remember when I met him, like, up close and personal and I was just surprised at, like, how white
50:14he was.
50:15I mean, and just almost like, almost like translucent.
50:19That was good.
50:20Beautiful.
50:21What happened?
50:22You know, we were wondering if he was bleaching his skin or maybe it was makeup.
50:28I can remember one instance and we had made this video.
50:32It was like multi-million dollar video.
50:34We had David Fincher, you know, directed.
50:36I remember at one point he literally kind of broke down in tears and he was kind of ranting like,
50:41I look like a monkey.
50:43I look like a monkey.
50:44And I was like thinking, what?
50:45I mean, he looked great in the video, but in his own mind, he, you know, he hated the way
50:51that he looked.
50:52And some people mentioned, I think it's called baking, where they, you know, couldn't lighten him up throughout the video.
51:00I mean, that word, I look like a monkey.
51:04First, it was kind of shocking from him.
51:08I'm thinking, here's this huge, amazing artist.
51:12And his own issues with self-image actually became a form of, like, self-sabotage with his career.
51:25I remember a lot of the black community felt like he had deserted them and thought that he didn't want
51:36to be black.
51:39And it was really difficult because he was in the tabloids every week.
51:45He sort of became a joke.
51:48First problem is the sex problem.
51:51The problem being, we don't know what sex he is.
51:58The latest of the Michael Jackson rumors.
52:01Are Michael Jackson and his sister, Latoya Jackson, actually the same person?
52:06I'm here with Lars Bunquist of the IOFC IRA, the Institute of Facial Changes in Recording Artists.
52:13And I understand you had a grant for the last six years to study the facial changes in Michael Jackson.
52:18That's correct, Dave.
52:19And it's been a full-time job.
52:23To most of us, he's just wacko jacko.
52:26And if some of the press are to be believed and sleeps in an oxygen tank, often with a chimp,
52:32a snake, and an alien.
52:35When you think of Michael Jackson, you don't first think, what a great artist, what a definitive performer.
52:41You think, what a weird guy.
52:43Record stores have been reporting disappointing sales for the new album.
52:46Some have already begun taking down the bad promotional posters.
52:52The bad album had been released in the late 80s, but it hadn't been as successful as Thriller.
52:57We had to get him back to basics as an artist, as a singer, and get away from the wacky
53:04personas and the trappings and everything else and stuff.
53:15We had to make him more relatable to the public, to answer the questions that people had about him, about
53:24his skin, about bubbles, about everything.
53:28Because up to that point, Michael hadn't done a major interview.
53:32People hadn't heard him talk.
53:35People didn't know anything about him.
53:39And then Michael's managers had this idea that he should do an Oprah Winfrey interview.
53:57And the whole objective for that interview was to humanize him to the world.
54:05Oprah was calling every day, like, five or six times a day.
54:10Nothing was left to chance.
54:12His whole career, his reputation, were dependent on this interview going well.
54:23Ladies and gentlemen, Michael Jackson.
54:26Hey.
54:27Oh, hey, hey.
54:29Well, how nervous are you right now?
54:33How what?
54:34How nervous are you right now?
54:36I'm not nervous at all, actually.
54:38You really aren't?
54:39No, I never get nervous.
54:41You don't?
54:42No.
54:42Not even for your first interview and it's live around the world?
54:46Well, I thought you'd be a little nervous, but that's great.
54:49Because if you're not nervous, I won't be nervous.
54:51I just wanted to let the world know that.
54:55We were all watching it on TV and it was pretty eye-opening.
54:58I think it really was the first time that I can recall where he ever sat down for a length
55:04of time, answered the questions that we all wanted to know, and was really pretty candid.
55:10I was actually surprised how candid he was.
55:13The main thing in that Oprah interview that was talked about was his answer to his skin
55:20color changing.
55:21The color of your skin is obviously different than it was when you were younger.
55:26And so I think it has caused a great deal of speculation and controversy as to what you
55:34have done or are doing.
55:36Are you bleaching your skin?
55:38Is your skin lighter because you don't like being black?
55:41The number one, this is the situation.
55:43I have a skin disorder that destroys the pigmentation of the skin.
55:48It's something that I cannot help.
55:50Okay?
55:50But when people make up stories that I don't want to be who I am, it hurts me.
55:55So it is.
55:58It's a problem for me.
56:00Okay?
56:00I can't control it.
56:01I'm a black American.
56:03I'm proud to be a black American.
56:08The black community was really relieved to hear that.
56:11You know, I remember people saying, oh, well, that's why it was.
56:15Of course.
56:16Of course, Michael wouldn't desert us.
56:18He has a disease.
56:20Makes me feel some of the pain that he's feeling because I can look in his eyes and I can
56:24see
56:24the hurt in his eyes.
56:26You know, he looks like he's so lonely and so hurt, you know, and it makes me want to just
56:30reach out to him.
56:33And it worked.
56:35And it really changed a lot of people's perceptions of him.
56:42It felt like Michael was back on top.
57:01My name is Rosabelle Smith.
57:05In 1993, I was working the Sexually Exploited Child Unit.
57:09A case had come in involving a young boy who was 13 years of age and that the perpetrator
57:17was Michael Jackson.
57:26We knew that it was going to be a huge case.
57:37It felt like a young boy was once.
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