00:00Why do I say that I use these tools? Because at some point, if you look at the office of
00:12the director general of the DIAN,
00:13you will see a Mr. William Castellanos coming several times to talk to me, or with mentors,
00:18something that I, knowing that I didn't have any confidence, not only permit me,
00:23but let me know what we can do with this man.
00:30In some cases, he came with some organigrams in which he said that they were involved in us,
00:37and he was involved in organigrams, and he was there to protect us.
00:41So, all these are strategies from vendedores of humo,
00:45so that one can grab them and then put them into situations.
00:55For example, the Mr. William Castellanos,
01:00me, in some moment, me, me, me dijo, me dijo que, que él tenía, o sea, que él sabía que
01:20Roy Barreras era,
01:22era un tipo malo, eh, yo había mencionado públicamente estos días que, que, que Roy Barreras me, eh, me amenazó,
01:29eh, por, eh, no haberle entregado, o sea, por no, no haber aceptado, o, no haber dicho, eh, eh, motivándome
01:41para poner a sus recomendados en las aduanas de Buenaventura y de Cali,
01:46él me dijo, yo sé que, como Roy Barreras es, eh, es una persona mala, eh, la senadora Piedad Córdoba
01:53tiene una declaración juramentada, eh, de, no sé quién, me olvido de los detalles, eh, pero en las cuales queda
02:05claro que Roy esto, lo otro,
02:07pero entonces tendríamos que reunirnos en la casa de ella, acompáñeme, venga, eh, y le dije, no, o sea,
02:14yo, eh, pocas cosas más útiles que una cara de bobo bien administrada, entonces yo le dije, no, me, no,
02:22me da mucha pena, no, no, no, entonces yo le dije, no, entonces, pero yo no me iba a dejar
02:26llevar a, a ningún sitio, eh, donde fueran a grabar algo comprometedor para, después, eh, después, este, no sé, tratar
02:39de, de, de qué, de manipular,
02:43entonces, eh, pero sí, entonces este es el perfil del señor William Castellanos, esta, esta, esta sabana me lleva a,
02:50a él, por cierto, vino con un señor Camilo Gómez, eh, eh, eh, que también ha aparecido en, eh, eh,
02:59in the recent media discussion, and I don't know if this is just a strategy of it or of the
03:13organigrams,
03:14I think it is plausible that it is a way in which they also sell information and they sell the
03:21ones to the other,
03:22because in this business, my perception is that always there is someone who is trying to take the business
03:28and then between criminals, they also lie, they lie, they lie, they lie, they lie, they lie, they lie,
03:36so this is the Sanadona of William Castellanos and Camilo Gomez.
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