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My Killer Father The Green Hollow Murders - Season 1 Episode 1
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00:03La primera vez que me recuerdo que mi padre mató a alguien
00:06fue cuando vivíamos en Bartlett, Iowa.
00:09Era en 1973, y yo era probablemente cuatro años.
00:16Cuando mi padre mató a alguien,
00:19él les llevaba a la cárcel.
00:21Y él nos preguntaba a llevar a la cárcel a la cárcel
00:26porque la lágría ayudó a descomponer la cárcel.
00:32Yo me recuerdo que la lágría en la cárcel
00:36y se quedaba en la cárcel, como un polvo,
00:39y yo leía a la cárcel.
00:40Y yo leía a la cárcel y era realmente muy bonito.
00:45¿No? Es que es rara que piensa?
00:49¿Cómo cuántos personas se han matado?
00:53No, no, no, no.
00:57¿No?
00:57¿Maybe?
00:57¿100?
01:00Él te ama o te odia o te odia o te odia.
01:03Y si te odia, te odia, te odia.
01:05Él decía que era una cárcel.
01:07Yo estaba carryingando la cárcel.
01:09Él simplemente actuó como una especie de desgracia.
01:14Él la mató y hizo que se parecía como un suicidio.
01:18No, no, no hay cárceles aquí.
01:20Él tenía tres, maybe cuatro, wives y o garrafas que cometieron suicidio.
01:26Es un montón.
01:27Yo vine aquí hoy para defender mi familia contra tu viejo.
01:31¿Verdad?
01:32Yo me gusta intentar proveer que mi padre es un crimen y un murder?
01:36Si tu padre hizo las cosas que te dicen que lo hicieron,
01:39lo que has estado buscando todos estos años,
01:42es sitting right behind you under the ground.
01:46No hay duda en mi opinión que Don es un crimen.
01:49Yo creo que él era la personificación de la maldad.
02:05No hay duda en mi opinión.
02:34No hay duda en mi opinión.
02:43No hay duda en mi opinión.
02:49There were the Green Hollow Hacker and the Green Hollow Goatman.
02:54All of the kids, my kids' age, they're calling him the Green Holler Mauler.
03:00For real.
03:02Growing up in the area, we'd heard stories about bodies in a well.
03:07The first time I heard a rumor was probably while I was in high school.
03:12The road used to run clear through Green Hollow.
03:15So that was just a spooky drive you'd do on a Saturday night with a bunch of your buddies.
03:21People would come out to gawk because they'd heard of the Hollow Folk.
03:27And they were chased off with guns.
03:29If that's where the rumor is, do not go up to Green Hollow.
03:34I mean, growing up, we knew not to go around these places and stay away from them.
03:38It was kind of a boogeyman type story.
03:39My mother told me a lot of things that you only thought you knew about in horror stories.
03:49Lucy believes that the monster of Green Hollow is Donald Dean's studio.
04:07I'm rolling.
04:09Hey, Lucy, can you do me a favor?
04:10Can you just clap your hands in front of you?
04:13Thank you.
04:13Okay.
04:14Okay, we're ready.
04:15Oh, that's like a take.
04:16That's like, yeah.
04:16Oh, okay.
04:18I never wanted to be in front of a camera and I'm not photogenic.
04:21So.
04:22Okay.
04:24Okay.
04:25Let's get out of here.
04:26Okay.
04:29What time is 8.35?
04:31Okay.
04:37We're going to where my dad used to live.
04:43Green Hollow, Iowa.
04:46I don't know why I have a good memory, but I remember things by where we lived and locations.
04:57I remember running around that town.
05:00I remember the train would pass through there.
05:04We'd put pennies on the track and they'd be flattened out.
05:11I remember jumping in mud puddles from the potholes.
05:17I remember that we used to play hide and seek and I was little and I thought if I stood
05:20as a statue on top of the washer or dryer that I was actually hiding.
05:27My dad was married five times and my mom was wife number three.
05:34But she died when I was 10 months old.
05:39I grew up with my dad and three full-blooded siblings.
05:44My older brother, Gary, my sister, Susan and Linda, and then myself.
05:51I'm the youngest out of us four.
05:56After my mom died, we were on the road for a few years.
06:02My dad was a degenerate gambler.
06:04He would bet on the horses.
06:06And when my dad needed money, he had a pipe with cement in it and he would just go find
06:13someone to mug and just beat him, take the wallet and leave.
06:17But one time outside of Texarkana, there was a guy he hit too hard and dad thought for sure
06:25he killed him.
06:28When dad and us kids moved back to Green Hollow, he needed someone to watch us.
06:34He would look for women who didn't have a place to stay.
06:40I guess nowadays you'd call them lot lizards, but those were like prostitutes at truck stops
06:47and women at bars.
06:49He called them bar slushes.
06:53And he brought them home.
06:57They had a consensual relationship with my dad.
07:00My dad was a very good-looking, charming man.
07:04But eventually the mental abuse would start, the physical abuse would start, and you could
07:10be perfect and it would still get worse.
07:15Some of the women were like moms to us.
07:20I remember the lady who started with a D, Darlene, something like that.
07:26I really wanted dad to marry Darlene.
07:29I liked her.
07:31She used to take and trace my ear.
07:36And she'd do that over and over.
07:38And then sometimes she would twist my hair around my ear.
07:42She was nice.
07:45But she did not leave Green Hollow alive.
07:51Unbelievable story tonight.
07:53Unbelievable story.
07:54Bodies in a well.
07:56Like dozens and dozens and dozens of bodies.
07:59Lucy has told authorities for years that her father demanded she and her siblings help
08:04them bury the bodies.
08:06A woman claims that her father was a serial killer.
08:09Cadaver dogs searched the area where Lucy Studi says her father buried bodies.
08:14What is it like and what did the cadaver dogs find so far?
08:17They naturally were drawn to both the well and other spots.
08:21Lucy's story is wild as it may seem to readers and audiences.
08:27Checked out every word.
08:33The article on Don Studi rocked our world.
08:38Knowing his history with us, it made me sick to my stomach to think I lived with that guy.
08:45I saw the article and the first thing I thought was, it's about damn time.
08:51When the Newsweek story came out, that's when everything got huge.
08:57I finally had to turn my phone off because, I mean, everybody was calling it.
09:02A lot of reporters start showing up to the point we actually put a no trespassing sign at the
09:09front of the house.
09:11Once the story broke, we just kind of like sat back and watched.
09:18But then we realized that they were trashing Lucy again.
09:23And we knew she was telling the truth.
09:27After many discussions, we decided that it was time to reach out and see if we could contact Lucy.
09:34It had been 39 years since we've had contact with any of the Studis.
09:40So it was a blessing to be able to reconnect with my stepsister.
09:50This is the entrance of Green Hollow.
09:54You can see how isolated it is.
09:56And there's a lot of shit that went on up in these hills that, you know, that nobody knows about.
10:07Where that trailer house sits is where the end of our trailer was.
10:11And our trailer went that way.
10:13That old blue and white trailer house we used to live in.
10:16And then my dad got a better trailer house.
10:20And that's where I remember dad killing the women.
10:28Between 1973 up until at least 1980,
10:35I remember my dad, on average, killing at least four people a year.
10:50My name is Eric Firkenhoff.
10:53I'm a reporter at Newsweek.
10:54I focus on investigations.
10:56I remember exactly where I was.
10:58And this woman called.
11:00She's like, my name's Lucy Studi McKitty.
11:02And my dad has been killing people for his whole life.
11:06And hiding them in Iowa.
11:10You know, you get calls from people all the time, especially in investigations.
11:16And vetting these calls is very important.
11:19But you're never going to properly vet a call unless you listen.
11:24She said that her dad would find women, bring them home, kill these women,
11:31bring them up to a well on the Studi property,
11:35and would dump their bodies in the well on the land that they grew up on.
11:41She tells me this story over an hour, hour and a half.
11:46And she is precise.
11:48She's been making these complaints and reports for years.
11:54So we run a big story about this in Newsweek.
11:58And that got enough attention that the Sheriff's Department and the DCI and the FBI decided
12:08we're actually going to dig and find answers.
12:18Well, I'm Sean Smith.
12:20I'm a fourth-generation farmer in Fremont County.
12:23The property we're talking about, we think these bodies are,
12:27is actually a piece of my ground.
12:32Don called me one evening.
12:34I think he was drunk.
12:36But yeah, he was, he was ranting and raving.
12:39And they started talking.
12:41And he says, when you're in that well, did you see cow bones or human bones?
12:45I said, Don, I've never been down in a well in my life.
12:47What the hell are you talking about?
12:50And he goes, well, my daughter says I put a body in a well
12:54and the Sheriff's Office is going to dig it out.
12:57But when he said it, I don't know, it was the weirdest feeling.
13:03I mean, why would he call me up if he wasn't worried about something?
13:08And as soon as I got off the phone, I called the Sheriff's Office
13:10and left a report with them.
13:13And then several years later, that's when the stuff all popped up again.
13:20I took the Sheriff and the, I think some FBI guys,
13:24showed them where I thought the well was.
13:26There was a little indentation where I was pretty sure that's what it was.
13:30We went and made a path down to it.
13:33Then they decided to go ahead and do the core sample.
13:37They bored three holes 85 feet deep in one well.
13:43That lasted about two and a half days.
13:47I personally don't think they did a good job, but that's my opinion.
13:50I think there's a very good chance that there's a body in that well, yes.
13:55After a several-day excavation of a reported mass grave in southwest Iowa,
14:00authorities say no evidence of human remains was found.
14:08Nothing was popping out of the ground, and they closed the case.
14:13But according to Lucy, they dug in the wrong place
14:16and that it was a botched investigation.
14:20When I realized that they weren't even in the right spot,
14:25they were on the wrong hill,
14:26and they were core drilling into the wrong well,
14:30I was mad.
14:32You know, I was in Florida,
14:35and I couldn't do a goddamn thing.
14:38She was not allowed on the property
14:41at the time they dug in the well.
14:43She says had she been there,
14:45they would have gone to the correct coordinates
14:47and dug a different well.
14:48The woman's older sister argues
14:50these allegations against her father are not true.
14:55When I first interviewed with the FBI,
14:57I did tell them,
14:59Lucy's right about one thing,
15:00and they perked up.
15:01They go, what's that?
15:02They go, dad did like the horse races,
15:04and they both giggled.
15:06The whole thing since Newsweek broke out,
15:09the whole thing's been a lie since day one.
15:13And just because she made Newsweek
15:15doesn't mean she's telling the truth,
15:16and I'm lying.
15:18I have pictures that show
15:20the tender moments of my father,
15:22that he was human.
15:24And I have pictures of Lucy and dad together
15:28showing she was not afraid of him.
15:31This is us at Louisiana Downs.
15:33This is when my dad traveled the horse racing circuit.
15:36It might have been a little illegal,
15:37but dad used to bet us horse racing tickets $2.
15:39Dad was actually a pretty good gambler.
15:42Lucy here is drinking a soda.
15:44She doesn't look afraid.
15:45We actually had a lot of fun.
15:48He was a very good father.
15:50He was loving.
15:51Times I felt bad.
15:52He hugged.
15:53Had nightmares.
15:54He consoled us.
15:56Here's Lucy in Green Hollow
15:59giving my father rabbit ears.
16:02If she was that traumatized and scared of him,
16:05why would she be holding rabbit ears behind his back?
16:07He was caring.
16:08He was loving.
16:11Here is my father holding my son
16:14and Lucy is sitting there caressing my son
16:16right beside my father
16:17with a big smile on her face.
16:21This is in Green Hollow,
16:22supposedly the land of nightmares.
16:25There was no nightmares up there.
16:26Lucy told me one time,
16:28I blocked it out.
16:29I didn't block nothing out.
16:31Why do you think they found nothing?
16:32There is nothing.
16:34I mean,
16:35you're talking about the Iowa DCI
16:37and you're talking about the FBI.
16:39Here's my father during his 50th birthday.
16:42If we hated him that much,
16:44why would we throw my birthday party?
16:46There was no trauma.
16:47There was no nothing.
16:49I grew up a normal childhood.
16:51My dad didn't have much money.
16:52But you know what?
16:53He got us through and he got us through happy.
16:56He was committed to keeping us together
16:58after my mother died.
17:00There was nothing in the world
17:01he wouldn't do for us,
17:02even Lucy.
17:04He was honored to walk her down the aisle.
17:06It was one of the best moments of his life.
17:08She was his baby.
17:11He might have been rude to other people,
17:13but he wasn't to us.
17:16He wasn't a people person.
17:18I will admit,
17:19he was no angel.
17:23But he was no killer.
17:38In this town,
17:39everyone's related to everybody.
17:40We just don't know how.
17:42You better check your DNA before you marry.
17:46Let's see here.
17:47This is our row.
17:49This is where some of the studies are buried.
17:53This is Ira and Rose,
17:56dad's parents.
17:57This is my Uncle Louie.
17:59And he was involved in criminal activity
18:02with my dad.
18:05That's a dude's duty.
18:07He was the local drunk.
18:09He was dad's first cousin.
18:11He was into some of the criminal activity.
18:14Arrests are just related to us.
18:17And this is my dad
18:18and my stepmom Charlotte.
18:22Dad killed her.
18:24It's listed as a suicide,
18:26but he killed her.
18:28I hope he's burning in hell.
18:36Our mother passed away
18:38February of 1984.
18:45We were told she killed herself
18:46with a rifle in the car,
18:48but we've always believed
18:52that he killed her.
18:54Don Studi.
18:55Don Studi killed her.
18:57And when we reconnected with Lucy,
19:00Lucy did say that she believed
19:02her dad killed mom
19:03and asked us if we would agree
19:06to have our mother exhumed
19:07to help prove her death
19:10was not a suicide
19:11and it was a homicide.
19:12And we all agreed.
19:16Our mom, Charlotte,
19:18was Don's fourth wife.
19:22Growing up,
19:23the three of us
19:23were always close.
19:25A lot of my memories
19:27is our mother
19:28teaching us how to bake
19:29and how to sew
19:30and how to garden.
19:32Garden.
19:32And she loved flowers.
19:35She loved flowers.
19:36And birds.
19:37She loved birds.
19:38Birds.
19:38Yeah.
19:39Snakes.
19:39She did not like creepy crawlies.
19:41No.
19:42We used to go and find them
19:45and we would stick them
19:47in her pocket all the time
19:48and my mom went to go do laundry.
19:51She would find all my creepy crawlies.
19:53She would get us back, though.
19:56Childhood was not perfect
19:57by any means.
19:59She had the drinking problem
20:01and then she would quit.
20:03She was a good mom.
20:05Pretty happy up until
20:07all the crazy with Don started.
20:10The first time I met Don,
20:13I would have been 11.
20:14I remember we were having dinner.
20:18So they came over him
20:20and his four children.
20:22He was very nice, gentlemen.
20:24I mean, nice to us kids,
20:27nice to his own kids.
20:28Yeah, what I remember about him
20:30is he was charismatic
20:31and he was funny.
20:33Yeah.
20:33He would take us places, you know.
20:37I was living at home when they met.
20:39I was a senior in high school
20:42and I was worried
20:43about how fast it moved.
20:45Here comes this guy
20:47with four kids in the picture
20:48and I said,
20:49you don't know him that well yet?
20:50You know, I don't,
20:51I don't,
20:53I didn't trust him
20:54because he never could have
20:55even looked me in the eye.
20:58and I moved out before they moved in.
21:01Mom married Don
21:03and once he moved into our home
21:06with his children,
21:09his personality started to change.
21:12If Don lost money at the racetrack
21:15or if Don was drinking
21:17or in a bad mood,
21:19he would come home
21:20and just take it out on his kids.
21:22Yeah.
21:24I mean,
21:25he literally would take the belt buckle,
21:28the buckle,
21:29and just romp on them,
21:31kick them,
21:32stomp on their heads,
21:33their necks,
21:34their feet,
21:35their hands.
21:37But then he started
21:39taking it out on Mama
21:41and it wasn't pretty.
21:45The first time
21:47that I knew
21:49Don beat my mom
21:51was when Marie called me
21:53from the neighbors
21:54and said,
21:56he,
21:57he beat her so bad
21:59she's in the hospital.
22:00And it was so bad.
22:02It was.
22:08When I was 13,
22:10I had come home
22:11from a babysitting job
22:14and when I came in,
22:17I don't even know
22:18how she was still alive.
22:19I really don't.
22:20Neither did I.
22:21He was,
22:21he was hitting her in the face
22:23with the butt of his rifle.
22:26He was just,
22:29then he put the rifle down
22:30and he just started punching her.
22:32I,
22:33it was just surreal.
22:34I went in
22:35and of course,
22:36you know,
22:36got in the middle of it
22:37and pulled him off
22:38and then got really mad.
22:41It's just,
22:42the look in his face
22:43was complete
22:44and utter evil.
22:46It was.
22:46Red eyes.
22:47Yeah.
22:48And he grabbed me
22:49by the throat
22:50and held me
22:51against the wall.
22:54Somehow I ended up
22:55getting loose
22:55and I took off running
22:58and I just remember
22:59turning around
23:00and he was
23:01at the corner
23:02of the house
23:02with the rifle
23:03pointed at me.
23:06I'm not sure
23:07why he didn't shoot me
23:08but I did get away
23:09and that's where
23:10the cops were called
23:12and they did take her
23:13to the hospital
23:14and that's when
23:14I called Dawn.
23:17And then I went up
23:17to the hospital
23:18and when I went in
23:20and saw her,
23:21I mean,
23:21I can't even explain
23:22to you how bad
23:23it was.
23:25There weren't
23:26too many spots
23:27on her body
23:27that didn't have a bruise.
23:31The doctors told me
23:32that she was lucky
23:33to be alive.
23:35If it happened again
23:36she probably wouldn't
23:37survive.
23:38They said they had
23:39a psychologist
23:41talking to her too
23:42because she refused
23:43to press charges.
23:44She was terrified
23:45of him.
23:46She was terrified
23:46of him.
23:48And I said,
23:49you know,
23:50Mom,
23:50you need to leave him.
23:51You have to leave him.
23:53And she said,
23:54you don't understand.
23:54I can't.
23:55He told me if I do,
23:57he'll kill you kids.
23:58And I said,
23:59well,
24:00he won't do anything
24:01to us kids
24:01if we let the police
24:03know that he's
24:03threatening us.
24:05And then she really
24:06started shaking
24:07and she really
24:08started crying
24:08and she said,
24:09no,
24:09you don't understand.
24:11She said,
24:12you need to leave it alone.
24:14He knows people
24:15and he has connections.
24:23Well,
24:23at least we're
24:24in counts of love,
24:25David.
24:25We made it.
24:29We did pretty good
24:31at the time.
24:32We left Wednesday
24:33at 8 p.m.
24:34and it's Friday
24:35at 3.30,
24:36so,
24:37and what was it,
24:38like,
24:391,600 miles?
24:41About.
25:05This looks like our apartment.
25:07Our garage is over there,
25:09David,
25:09opposite end
25:10of where we're going to be.
25:11Oh, wow.
25:16Yeah,
25:16let's meet a neighbor
25:17by taking off their mirror.
25:20Nah,
25:20just total their car.
25:23I'm David McKinney.
25:24I'm not that much
25:25of a talkative person,
25:26so I don't know
25:26what else to say
25:27after that, really.
25:29Your mom says
25:29that you're a magician.
25:32Very lightly, yes.
25:33Mom exaggerates
25:34the amount of tricks
25:35I actually know.
25:36In my wallet,
25:38considering it's
25:39a normal wallet,
25:39but little do people know
25:40is that it bursts
25:41into flames.
25:44Starting to run out
25:45of fluid on that.
25:49The first time
25:51I remember
25:51Mom talking about
25:53her dad
25:54killing people,
25:56I was around
25:578 to 10.
26:01Whenever she
26:02hasn't been investigating,
26:03it's been relatively normal.
26:05We've lived normal life.
26:07Whenever we
26:08do end up investigating,
26:10she goes in-depth
26:11with it.
26:12Most of the time
26:13it causes us to
26:15leave the place
26:16we're at.
26:17It causes us to go
26:19quite downhill
26:19money-wise.
26:20Eventually,
26:21the money problems
26:22would actually,
26:22when I was younger,
26:24get so bad
26:24that she had to
26:26take a break
26:26from the investigation
26:27just because,
26:28if not,
26:29we were going
26:29to be homeless.
26:31So,
26:32she'll stop
26:33for a year to three,
26:35get back
26:36to a good state
26:37financially,
26:38but then
26:39she always thinks
26:40maybe I can
26:41finally get the
26:42justice again,
26:43which begins
26:43the whole cycle
26:44of going through
26:45the investigation,
26:46getting nowhere,
26:47losing all the money,
26:48restart the cycle.
26:51I'm getting tired
26:52of moving around
26:53a ton.
26:54It has caused
26:55quite a lot
26:57of fighting
26:57between us,
26:58some,
26:59but I know
27:00mom's not
27:00just crazy enough
27:02to ruin our lives
27:04repeatedly over this.
27:06If mom's lying,
27:08which I know
27:08she's not,
27:09there'd be
27:10absolute no reason
27:11to at this point.
27:16when I was pregnant
27:17with my son,
27:18David,
27:19and after he was born,
27:21I knew
27:22that I had
27:24to get better.
27:25I wanted to be
27:26a better mom
27:26for David.
27:30But I have ruined
27:31his life three times
27:32in 23 years
27:34going after
27:34those bodies
27:36where I put myself
27:38on the verge
27:39of bankruptcy
27:39and I get myself
27:42out and then
27:43I put myself
27:44right back in.
27:46I tried to be happy.
27:49I tried to forget.
27:51I had a husband,
27:53a son,
27:54a house.
27:55I should have been happy.
27:58But deep inside,
28:00I wasn't
28:02because
28:05there was bodies
28:06in a well.
28:07I can't forget
28:08about them.
28:09I would look
28:10at my son
28:11and I would think,
28:12what if it was
28:13him in the well?
28:14If my son
28:15was missing,
28:17I would want
28:18to know.
28:24I can't believe
28:25I left Florida
28:26to move to Iowa.
28:31I'm sitting here
28:32relaxing.
28:33I'm sunburned.
28:34I'm soaking wet
28:36from sweat.
28:41This better be worth it.
28:48It better be worth it.
29:03Where me and my love
29:05did meet.
29:08There we sat
29:10according
29:11My love dropped off
29:14to sleep.
29:16I stabbed her
29:18with my dagger
29:20which was a bloody knife.
29:24And I threw her
29:26into the river
29:28which was a dreadful sight.
29:33My father
29:34often told me
29:37that money
29:38would set me free
29:40if I would murder
29:44that dear little girl
29:45whose name
29:46was Rose Connolly.
29:53and I'm
29:54going to help
29:54Camera rolling.
29:55Camera rolling.
29:55Camera rolling.
29:56Camera rolling.
29:56Camera speeding.
29:57All right.
29:58All right.
29:59So um...
30:00why don't you start
30:01by just saying your name
30:02y, ¿qué ha venido aquí para decirnos?
30:06Soy Robert Masson y he helped Don Studi carry a body in with the police.
30:26¿Cómo se puede saber que el cuerpo que te ha ayudado con Don Studi?
30:33No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
30:51No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
31:09no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
31:11no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
31:12no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
31:15no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
31:16no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
31:19I drove my car, we had separate vehicles and I just followed him.
31:26We ended up at the Green Hollow resident with the trailer there.
31:33Oh yeah, that's the right place, it's just a lot of things have changed.
31:40I'd parked here but he asked me to move my car over there and he parked his truck back in
31:43here
31:43and then went around and there was a body wrapped up in white, I don't know if it's plastic or
31:50cloth
31:50but all I saw were some black Converse-like tennis shoes and he said it was a woman.
32:01He grabbed one hand, I grabbed the other and we walked down this way.
32:09And he was leading the way and he was going pretty good clip
32:12and I was stumbling behind and it was an awkward feeling
32:18and this was just a skinny path with trees on both sides, it wasn't open like it is now
32:24but we went back and we went, went a ways.
32:30This would be about the most that I could have gone with it.
32:36It was winded and I just dropped the end of the body I had
32:40and he didn't get mad and I just said, this isn't for me
32:43and he said, go on back where you were and I'll get, I'll do the rest of this.
32:52Hopped in my car and I sped away.
32:56I remember it was going so fast I thought I was going to almost wreck off this gravel road.
33:00and I didn't feel safe yet, I still felt under the umbrella of fear
33:10I could have been buried in the same hole or whatever that he buried that lady's body.
33:16Do you remember what part of the body you were carrying?
33:19I think I was carrying the upper torso
33:23and he was carrying the feet as we walked
33:26that was traumatic to me
33:28to him it was like
33:31everyday occurrence or something
33:33it was like
33:34no big deal
33:36this one is his first rodeo
33:38this one is his first time
33:41I've done this before
33:48I'm uncomfortable
33:49bringing this stuff up from the past
33:51I never shared it with anyone
33:52I buried it
33:55buried it deep
33:56I have nothing to gain
33:59like coming forward
34:00I mean
34:01it's a risk for my future
34:05a lot of people aren't believing Lucy
34:08I felt like compelled to
34:10stand up for her
34:12my hope is that
34:13someone follows Lucy's story
34:17and finds the bodies
34:19because I'm sure they're there
34:20I know there's at least one there
34:31I was 14 years old
34:34in February of 1984
34:36when Charlotte died
34:37she was trying to leave dad
34:39you know
34:40she had a place
34:42she came home that night
34:44to get her belongings
34:45and she was trying to get her clothes
34:47and dad said
34:50the bitch can leave with nothing
34:53here's a picture of my father
34:54and my stepmother
34:55if you can tell
34:56they looked all lovey lovey
34:57they used to walk hand in hand
34:59arm in arm
35:00when she was sober
35:02she was the sweetest
35:03kindest gal in the world
35:05even to this day
35:06I miss her
35:09I really can't remember
35:11what went down that night
35:12all I know is
35:13once they started arguing
35:14we all went to our rooms
35:16Lucy and Linda went to their room
35:17I went to mine
35:20I was watching TV
35:22in the living room
35:22and I just tried to
35:24stay out of their fight
35:26and she made a couple of trips
35:28in and out of the house
35:29through her car
35:30and every time she left
35:32she had clothes clutched to her
35:34because dad was trying to grab them
35:36out of her hand
35:40my bedroom door was shut
35:43and they were arguing in their bedroom
35:45maybe I know how long it was for a while
35:47and then I heard her stomping down the hallway
35:51I just remember exact words
35:53fuck you I'll kill myself
35:57and she took off out the front door
36:01dad left about an hour later
36:03I didn't see him go out the door
36:05but I heard the door slam
36:06and his car was gone
36:10he came home in the morning
36:13and the first thing he said
36:14when he walked in the door
36:15is I found Charlotte dead in her car
36:18she committed suicide
36:19and he went to the phone
36:20and called the police
36:22after he hung up
36:23dad told Susan, Linda and me
36:25that we better say
36:26that he was home all night
36:27so we did
36:30but I do remember
36:32I was numb
36:33because
36:35I knew she didn't commit suicide
36:37and that dad killed her
36:39did your dad talk to you
36:41about what to say to the police
36:43when they come?
36:43no
36:44not at all
36:46he's dead
36:46why would I condone him now?
36:48dad was home that night
36:49I got up to go to the bathroom
36:50in the middle of the night
36:51there was a lump in the bed
36:53I have no idea what went down
36:54when she left the house
36:56Lucy and Linda have no idea
36:58I wish I would have stopped her
37:00but she was drunk
37:02I think if she would have been sober
37:04I don't think she would have killed herself
37:09according to the police report
37:11Charlotte shot herself
37:12using my dad's rifle
37:15but that night
37:16I saw her leave each time
37:18she never tucked the gun
37:19you can't shoot yourself with a gun
37:21if you never tuck it
37:24I had my door shut
37:25I saw no gun
37:27I don't know
37:28where she got the gun
37:29but I swear on my soul
37:31I don't care if people think I'm lying
37:34God knows I'm not lying
37:35I heard her say the words
37:36I heard her say
37:37fuck you
37:38I'll kill myself
37:38the way wife did
37:39Susan is lying
37:42but I understand why she's lying
37:46I really do
37:48my dad's manipulation was master level
37:52he could convince you of anything
37:55he could be mentally and physically abusive to you
38:00and you still want to try to please him
38:05so being around dad
38:07and having him twist your mind like that
38:09she's turned him into a saint
38:13did you ever see your dad be abusive?
38:17no
38:18did you ever see your father be abusive to Charlotte?
38:24I saw both of them be abusive towards each other
38:27there was times we pulled Charlotte off of dad
38:29there was times we pulled dad off of Charlotte
38:31there was times we pulled them off of each other
38:33Charlotte could fight
38:34she was a tiny woman
38:35but she could hold her own
38:38men aren't supposed to hit women
38:39which is fine
38:40but you know what
38:41when women hit men
38:42you gotta expect to get
38:43I mean
38:45they both were innocent
38:47do you ever remember threatening
38:48to kill Charlotte?
38:50they threatened to kill each other all the time
38:52then the next day
38:53oh I love you so much
38:56do you think your father was
38:58violent
38:59was willing to sort of beat someone
39:01into the hospital
39:01but he would just stop
39:02short of killing them
39:03he would never kill them
39:05well
39:06maybe the time Charlotte went to the hospital
39:08but there was times
39:09dad was pretty bloody too
39:11but he didn't go to the hospital
39:13a cat scratched
39:28it's 8.35 a.m.
39:32we are going down
39:33to the Thurman Cemetery
39:36Charlotte is being exhumed
39:39out of her grave
39:41I'm with Marie
39:43and Charlotte
39:44her two daughters
39:45we just exited
39:48interstate 29
39:49and we got to go through Thurman
39:51to get to the cemetery
40:00my school used to be right here
40:02where that shed is
40:03Thurman Elementary
40:04Charlotte was there
40:05Charlotte came to my school
40:07for some Christmas patch
40:09oh really
40:11see this is my kind of country
40:14it is pretty here
40:15and it's peaceful
40:16and the road is right here
40:19take a left
40:20yep
40:21oh
40:21the truck is already there
40:24they better not start without us
40:26well it's not 9 o'clock yet
40:28okay
40:28they just probably have to get themselves all set up
40:31yep
40:31that's us
40:32right there is
40:33they started already
40:35they weren't supposed to freaking start
40:37no
40:37you know
40:38okay
40:38this is what's wrong with fucking
40:42who in the hell is up here
40:43I don't know
40:44I don't know
40:47I have a question
40:49why did you start?
40:50well it's not start
40:51yeah well it takes quite a bit of time
40:53to get everything ready
40:54so
40:55that's why everything's all dog
40:56and everything
40:57I mean we've been here
40:58you guys weren't supposed to start
40:59without us
41:00that's
41:00that's how
41:01we've got
41:01everybody's on a time schedule
41:04you guys
41:05didn't tell us that
41:07but it takes
41:08I mean these guys have to get everything
41:10but when you say 9 a.m
41:12it's supposed to be 9 a.m
41:14I know I get it
41:15but it takes
41:17hours to dig this grave
41:19he had to move stone
41:20it just would have been nice to know
41:22we really truly wanted to be here
41:23so since I'm a one man guy
41:26and by Iowa law
41:27I have to be here
41:28I couldn't say
41:29well what time is it going to come out of the ground
41:31I don't know my schedule
41:32as soon as you even broke ground
41:34you should have called us
41:35we could have came out
41:37why did you break ground without calling us
41:40I need one phone call right now
41:41so I can end this real quick
41:43do you know what
41:43I did
41:44I don't know
41:45she's a loose cannon
41:46why did you break ground
41:47Lucy can you please stop
41:49I get that this has all changed
41:51but you screaming at people
41:53is not helping it
41:54so stop
41:54he broke ground
41:55I don't fucking care right now
41:58stop
41:59just leave it
42:05stop it
42:06no because you're acting like your fucking father right now
42:10so stop
42:10why didn't he call
42:12because it broke ground and they didn't call
42:14get it
42:16but it isn't helping
42:17stop it
42:18if you're going to be like this
42:19go send the call
42:22when they're nothing but a bunch of small town
42:24small minded
42:25fuck
42:25that's not why my dad got away with murder
42:28do you know what
42:29maybe my dad should have put more fucking people in the well
42:33and he can start with that man
42:35Lucy don't hurt my
42:36come on
42:37you just dented the fucking truck
42:39look at it
42:40you dented the fucking truck
42:43I'm getting my shit out of here
42:45I'm never talking to my stepsisters again
42:49I'm going to get my nine millimeter
42:51and I'm going to solve it the way my dad solves shit
42:55what is wrong with people in Fremont County
42:58do you not know
42:59that there's fucking bodies up there
43:01I'm not lying
43:02there's fucking bodies up there
43:04hey miss
43:05calm down
43:06calm down
43:08everybody should be mad
43:09there's fucking bodies up there
43:12more bodies than here
43:14Lucy we know
43:15and you guys just call me like
43:17no big deal
43:18there's fucking bodies up there
43:29my dad goes
43:30it seems like every woman I love
43:31dies on me
43:32because I don't understand
43:36Charlotte's duty
43:36was found in a vehicle
43:38in front of a house
43:40she had a bullet wound
43:41at the right temple
43:41he said
43:42your mom committed suicide
43:44and he said
43:44no she didn't
43:45I saw
43:46the electrical cord
43:48hanging from the crossbar
43:49it just didn't add up
43:51she's trying to
43:52protect herself
43:53as the guns fired
43:55he's got
43:56two wives
43:57and a girlfriend
43:57who he called in
43:59to the police
44:00reporting their deaths
44:01what's the odds of that
44:02I think he'd be better off
44:03winning the lottery
44:04she said
44:05how could I not be loyal
44:07to my brother
44:08he killed for me
44:10I don't understand
44:11the actions of the
44:12Fremont County Sheriff's Department
44:13do you think
44:14there is any cover up
44:16you don't want to go down
44:18that path with me
44:19because I guarantee you
44:20you will not like that at all
44:30and now he sits
44:33by his own cottage door
44:35a wipe in his tear
44:38dimmed eye
44:39and now he waits
44:42for his own dear son
44:44upon the scaffold high
44:47my rest is run
44:50beneath the sun
44:52though hell's now
44:54waiting for me
44:55for I have murdered
44:58that dear little girl
45:00whose name was
45:02Rose Connelly
45:08is Bai
45:08which is definitely
45:09how you have
45:10shared
45:10how could I not see
45:12why do I need
45:15in the door
45:15where I need
45:16to notice
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