00:13You can listen to the phone calls, you can read text messages, you can read
00:18emails, you can even read encrypted messages sent via WhatsApp or Signal or
00:25other chat programs and you can also turn on the camera and the microphone
00:31without the user of the phone noticing it. So it basically turns your phone into a
00:36spy in your pocket.
00:45If you've been asked where have you been 17 days ago, your mind hardly can remember it
00:51but your smartphone does.
01:01It's pretty scary. All you need to do is have your phone connected to the internet and then
01:07it can be infected without you noticing it. There will be a message sent to your phone
01:12and then your phone will be infected just like that.
02:05We found out that the NSO Group tried to sell it to the German Federal Criminal Police.
02:12They were pretty amazed by the technology and they knew that it is such a powerful tool
02:19that can be used in various ways to monitor targets even if they are far away but still
02:27they are not allowed to use it. In the end there's a problem with that tool because it's
02:31just too powerful. It can do more than it is allowed to do and it's basically
02:38violating German law because it's monitoring everything that's happening on a phone.
02:54You don't have to be in the country where an intelligence agency or a police has purchased
02:59that product to be targeted. You can be in a totally different country and this intelligence
03:05agency can target you.
03:11So we need international agreements and contracts about using digital weapons like this instrument,
03:24like Pegasus. We need a standard for selling those very powerful tools and for using them.
03:35Otherwise we will lose our understanding of freedom, of privacy, of intimacy, of private secrets
03:48in the digital age and this is something if you think about it to the end nobody that is interested
03:57in freedom of speech. Nobody can agree on that. So we have to try to get this done.
04:17We are very concerned. I mean, me personally, it's all the revelation that came up regarding
04:24this spy tool shows that there's basically, there's almost no way to protect your source. Once you're targeted with a
04:32technology like this, these spy tools can endanger people around the world.
04:37Not only journalists and human rights activists, also opposition people, also people that are just involved in NGO work.
04:48And yeah, these are dangerous weapons.
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