00:00The nature of the relationship that I understood he had with Epstein was not a close friendship.
00:05How I understood it at the time was a passing acquaintance that he regretted having and that he apologised for.
00:12What has emerged since then was way, way, way worse than I had expected at the time.
00:19And it was when I saw the pictures, when I saw the Bloomberg questions in September 2025, I have to
00:27say it was like a knife through my soul.
00:30I did not expect that level of connection that he was talking about there.
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