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00:03The first time I remember my dad killing somebody was when we lived in Bartlett, Iowa.
00:09It was around 1973, and I was probably four years old.
00:16When my dad killed somebody, he would take them to the well.
00:21And he would ask us to carry bags of lie up to the well,
00:26because the lie would help decompose the bodies.
00:32I remember dumping the lie in the well,
00:36and it used to, like, float down like a white powdery, cloudy thing.
00:41And I would just watch it, and it was actually really pretty.
00:45You know? Isn't that weird to think?
00:50How many people do you think that killed?
00:53I couldn't begin to tell you.
00:56Maybe a hundred?
01:00He loves you, or he hates you.
01:02And if he hates you, you're dead.
01:06He said it was a woman's body.
01:07I was carrying that up her torso.
01:10He just acted nonchalant, like it was an everyday occurrence.
01:14He killed her, and made it look like a suicide.
01:18I'm not lying! There's fucking bodies up there!
01:20He had three, maybe four, wives and or girlfriends who committed suicide.
01:26That's a lot.
01:27I came up here tonight to defend my family against your fat little mouth.
01:31Do you think I like trying to prove that my dad's a criminal and a murderer?
01:36If your dad did the things you say he did, what you've been looking for all these years is sitting
01:43right behind you under the ground.
01:46There's no question in my mind that Don was a killer.
01:49I think he was the personification of evil.
01:56Police in western Iowa are searching for any sign of a serial killer.
02:06The woman claims her late plotter killed at least 50 women and used his children to help bury them.
02:35There had long been a story about the monster of Green Hollow who would kill people.
02:44There's different nicknames, but the two that I've heard around here were the Green Hollow Hacker and the Green Hollow
02:52Goatman.
02:54All of the kids, my kids' age, they're calling him the Green Holler Mauler.
03:00For real.
03:02Growing up in the area, we'd heard stories about bodies in a well.
03:08The first time I heard a rumor was probably while I was in high school.
03:12The road used to run clear through Green Hollow.
03:16That was just a spooky drive you'd do on a Saturday night with a bunch of your buddies.
03:21People would come out to gawk because they'd heard of the hollow folk.
03:27And they were chased off with guns.
03:29If that's where the rumor is, do not go up to Green Hollow.
03:34When growing up, we knew not to go around his place and stay away from him.
03:38It was kind of a boogeyman type story.
03:39My mother told me a lot of things that you only thought you knew about in horror stories.
03:49Lucy believes that the monster of Green Hollow is Donald Dean's studio.
04:07I'm rolling.
04:09Lucy, can you do me a favor?
04:10Can you just clap your hands in front of you?
04:14Okay.
04:14Okay, we're ready.
04:15Oh, that's like a take.
04:16That's like, yeah.
04:17Oh, okay.
04:18I never wanted to be in front of a camera and I am not photogenic.
04:21So.
04:23God.
04:24Okay, let's get out of here.
04:26Okay.
04:29What time is 835?
04:31Okay.
04:37We're going to where my dad used to live.
04:42Green Hollow, Iowa.
04:46I don't know why I have a good memory.
04:49But I remember things by where we lived.
04:52And locations.
04:57I remember running around that town.
05:00I remember the train would pass through there.
05:04We'd put pennies on the track.
05:07And they'd be flattened out.
05:11I remember jumping in mud puddles from the potholes.
05:17I remember that we used to play hide and seek and I was little and I thought if I stood
05:20as a statue on top of the washer or dryer that I was actually hiding.
05:27My dad was married five times and my mom was wife number three, but she died when I was 10
05:36months old.
05:38I grew up with my dad and three full-blooded siblings.
05:44My older brother Gary, my sister Susan and Linda, and then myself.
05:51I'm the youngest out of us four.
05:56After my mom died, we were on the road for a few years.
06:02My dad was a degenerate gambler.
06:04He would bet on the horses.
06:06And when my dad needed money, he had a pipe with cement in it and he would just go find
06:13someone to mug and just beat him, take the wallet and leave.
06:16But one time outside of Texarkana, there was a guy he hit too hard, and dad thought for sure he
06:25killed him.
06:28When dad and us kids moved back to Green Hollow, he needed someone to watch us.
06:34He would look for women who didn't have a place to stay.
06:40I guess nowadays you'd call them lot lizards, but those were like prostitutes at truck stops.
06:47And women at bars.
06:49He called them bar slushes.
06:53And he brought them home.
06:57They had a consensual relationship with my dad.
07:00My dad was a very good-looking, charming man.
07:04But eventually the mental abuse would start, the physical abuse would start, and you could be perfect, and it would
07:12still get worse.
07:15Some of the women were like moms to us.
07:20I remember the lady who started with a D, Darlene, something like that.
07:26I really wanted dad to marry Darlene.
07:29I liked her.
07:31She used to take and trace my ear.
07:35And she'd do that over and over.
07:38And then sometimes she would twist my hair around my ear.
07:42She was nice.
07:45But she did not leave Green Hollow alive.
07:51Unbelievable story tonight.
07:53Unbelievable story.
07:54Bodies in a well.
07:56Like, dozens and dozens and dozens of bodies.
07:59Lucy has told authorities for years that her father demanded she and her siblings help them bury the bodies.
08:06A woman claims that her father was a serial killer.
08:09Cadaver dogs searched the area where Lucy Studi says her father buried bodies.
08:14What is it like, and what did the cadaver dogs find so far?
08:17They naturally were drawn to both the well and other spots.
08:21Lucy's story, as wild as it may seem to readers and audiences, checked out every word.
08:33The article on Don Studi rocked our world.
08:38Knowing his history with us, it made me sick to my stomach to think I lived with that guy.
08:45I saw the article, and the first thing I thought was, it's about damn time.
08:51When the Newsweek story came out, that's when everything got huge.
08:57I finally had to turn my phone off because, I mean, everybody was calling it.
09:02A lot of reporters start showing up to the point we actually put a no trespassing sign at the front
09:09of the house.
09:11Once the story broke, we just kind of like sat back and watched, but then we realized that they were
09:21trashing Lucy again, and we knew she was telling the truth.
09:27After many discussions, we decided that it was time to reach out and see if we could contact Lucy.
09:34It had been 39 years since we had contact with any of the Studis, so it was a blessing to
09:42be able to reconnect with my stepsister.
09:50This is the entrance of Green Hollow.
09:54You can see how isolated it is, and there's a lot of shit that went on up in these hills
09:59that, you know, that nobody knows about.
10:07Where that trailer house sits is where the end of our trailer was, and our trailer went that way.
10:12That old blue and white trailer house we used to live in.
10:16And then my dad got a better trailer house, and that's where I remember dad killing the women.
10:28Between 1973 up until at least 1980, I remember my dad, on average, killing at least four people a year.
10:50My name is Eric Firkenhoff.
10:52I'm a reporter at Newsweek.
10:54I focus on investigations.
10:56I remember exactly where I was, and this woman called.
11:00She's like, my name's Lucy Studi McKitty, and my dad has been killing people for his whole life.
11:08You know, you get calls from people all the time, especially in investigations.
11:16And vetting these calls is very important.
11:19But you're never going to properly vet a call unless you listen.
11:24She said that her dad would find women, bring them home, kill these women, bring them up to a well
11:32on the Studi property,
11:35and would dump their bodies in the well on the land that they grew up on.
11:41She tells me this story over an hour, hour and a half, and she is precise.
11:48She's been making these complaints and reports for years.
11:54So we run a big story about this in Newsweek, and that got enough attention
12:02that the Sheriff's Department and the DCI and the FBI decided
12:08we're actually going to dig and find answers.
12:18Well, I'm Sean Smith.
12:20I'm a fourth-generation farmer in Fremont County.
12:23The property we're talking about, we think these bodies are,
12:27is actually a piece of my ground.
12:32And Don called me one evening.
12:34I think he was drunk, but yeah, he was ranting and raving.
12:39And they started talking, and he says,
12:41when you're in that well, did you see cow bones or human bones?
12:45I said, Don, I've never been down in a well in my life.
12:47What the hell are you talking about?
12:50And he goes, well, my daughter says I put a body in a well,
12:54and the Sheriff's Office is going to dig it out.
12:57But when he said it, I don't know, it was the weirdest feeling.
13:03I mean, why would he call me up if he wasn't worried about something?
13:08And as soon as I got off the phone, I called the Sheriff's Office
13:10and loved to report with them.
13:13And then several years later, that's when the stuff all popped up again.
13:20I took the Sheriff and the, I think some FBI guys,
13:24showed them where I thought the well was.
13:26There was a little indentation where I was pretty sure that's what it was.
13:30We went and made a path down to it.
13:33Then they decided to go ahead and do the core sample.
13:37They bored three holes, 85 feet deep, in one well.
13:43That lasted about two and a half days.
13:47I personally don't think they did a good job, but that's my opinion.
13:50I think there's a very good chance that there's a body in that well, yes.
13:55After a several-day excavation of a reported mass grave in southwest Iowa,
14:00authorities say no evidence of human remains was found.
14:04As of this time, we have no...
14:07nothing.
14:08Nothing was popping out of the ground, and they closed the case.
14:13But, according to Lucy, they dug in the wrong place
14:16and that it was a botched investigation.
14:20When I realized that they weren't even in the right spot,
14:24they were on the wrong hill,
14:26and they were core drilling into the wrong well,
14:29I was mad.
14:32You know, I was in Florida,
14:35and I couldn't do a goddamn thing.
14:38She was not allowed on the property
14:41at the time they dug in the well.
14:43She says had she been there,
14:45they would have gone to the correct coordinates
14:47and dug a different well.
14:48The woman's older sister argues
14:50these allegations against her father are not true.
14:55When I first interviewed with the FBI,
14:57I did tell them,
14:58Lucy's right about one thing,
15:00and they perked up.
15:01They go, what's that?
15:02They go, dad did like the horse races,
15:04and they both giggled.
15:06The whole thing since Newsweek broke out,
15:09the whole thing's been a lie since day one.
15:13And just because she made Newsweek
15:15doesn't mean she's telling the truth and I'm lying.
15:18I have pictures that show the tender moments of my father,
15:22that he was human.
15:24And I have pictures of Lucy and dad together showing she was not afraid of him.
15:31This is us at Louisiana Downs.
15:33This is when my dad traveled the horse racing circuit.
15:36It might have been a little illegal,
15:37but dad used to bet us horse racing tickets $2.
15:40Dad was actually a pretty good gambler.
15:42Lucy here is drinking a soda.
15:44She doesn't look afraid.
15:45We actually had a lot of fun.
15:48He was a very good father.
15:50He was loving.
15:51Times have felt bad.
15:52He hugged.
15:53Had nightmares.
15:54He consoled us.
15:56Here's Lucy in Green Hollow,
15:59giving my father rabbit ears.
16:01If she was that traumatized and scared of him,
16:05why would she be holding rabbit ears behind his back?
16:07He was caring.
16:08He was loving.
16:11Here is my father holding my son,
16:14and Lucy is sitting there caressing my son right beside my father
16:17with a big smile on her face.
16:21This is in Green Hollow,
16:22supposedly the land of nightmares.
16:24There was no nightmares up there.
16:26Lucy told me one time I blocked it out.
16:29I didn't block nothing out.
16:31Why do you think they found nothing?
16:32There is nothing.
16:34I mean, you're talking about the Iowa DCI,
16:37and you're talking about the FBI.
16:39Here's my father during his 50th birthday.
16:42If we hated him that much,
16:44why would we throw him a birthday party?
16:46There was no trauma.
16:47There was no nothing.
16:49I grew up a normal childhood.
16:51My dad didn't have much money,
16:52but you know what?
16:53He got us through, and he got us through happy.
16:56He was committed to keeping us together after my mother died.
17:00There was nothing in the world he wouldn't do for us,
17:02even Lucy.
17:03He was honored to walk her down the aisle.
17:06It was one of the best moments of his life.
17:08She was his baby.
17:11He might have been rude to other people,
17:13but he wasn't to us.
17:16He wasn't a people person.
17:18I will admit,
17:19he was no angel.
17:22But he was no killer.
17:38In this town,
17:39everyone's related to everybody.
17:40We just don't know how.
17:42You better check your DNA before you marry.
17:46Let's see here.
17:47This is our row.
17:49This is where some of the studies are buried.
17:52This is Ira and Rose,
17:56dad's parents.
17:57This is my Uncle Louie,
17:59and he was involved in criminal activity with my dad.
18:05That's a dude's duty.
18:07He was the local drunk.
18:09He was dad's first cousin.
18:11He was into some of the criminal activity.
18:14Arrests are just related to us.
18:17And this is my dad
18:18and my stepmom, Charlotte.
18:21Dad killed her.
18:24It's listed as a suicide,
18:26but he killed her.
18:28My hope he's burning in hell.
18:36Our mother passed away
18:38February of 1984.
18:44We were told she killed herself
18:46with a rifle in the car,
18:48but we've always believed
18:52that he killed her.
18:54Don Studi.
18:55Don Studi killed her.
18:57And when we reconnected with Lucy,
19:00Lucy did say that she believed
19:02her dad killed mom
19:03and asked us if we would agree
19:06to have our mother exhumed
19:07to help prove her death
19:10was not a suicide
19:11and it was a homicide.
19:13And we all agreed.
19:16Our mom, Charlotte,
19:18was Don's fourth wife.
19:22Growing up,
19:23the three of us were always close.
19:25A lot of my memories
19:27is our mother teaching us
19:28how to bake
19:29and how to sew
19:30and how to garden.
19:32And she loved flowers.
19:34We always had flowers.
19:36And birds.
19:37She loved birds.
19:38Yeah.
19:39Snakes.
19:39She did not like creepy crawlies.
19:41No, we used to go and find them
19:45and we would stick them
19:47in her pocket all the time
19:48and my mom went to go do laundry.
19:51She would find all my creepy crawlies.
19:53She would get us back, though.
19:56Childhood was not perfect
19:57by any means.
19:59She had the drinking problem
20:01and then she would quit.
20:03She was a good mom.
20:05Pretty happy up until
20:07all the crazy with Don started.
20:10The first time I met Don,
20:13I would have been 11.
20:14I remember we were having dinner.
20:18So they came over him
20:20and his four children.
20:22He was very nice.
20:24Gentleman.
20:24And, I mean,
20:25nice to us kids,
20:27nice to his own kids.
20:28Yeah, what I remember about him
20:30is he was charismatic
20:31and he was funny.
20:33Yeah.
20:33And we did have his son.
20:34He would take us places, you know.
20:36I was living at home
20:38when they met.
20:39I was a senior in high school.
20:42And I was worried
20:43about how fast it moved.
20:45Here comes this guy
20:47with four kids in the picture
20:48and I said,
20:49you don't know him that well yet?
20:50You know, I don't,
20:51I don't,
20:53I didn't trust him
20:54because he never could
20:55even look me in the eye.
20:58And I moved out
20:59before they moved in.
21:02Mom married Don
21:03and once he moved
21:05into our home
21:06with his children,
21:09his personality
21:10started to change.
21:12If Don lost money
21:14at the racetrack
21:15or if Don was drinking
21:17or in a bad mood,
21:19he would come home
21:20and just take it out
21:21on his kids.
21:22Yeah.
21:24I mean,
21:25he literally
21:25would take the belt buckle,
21:28the buckle,
21:29and just romp on them,
21:31kick them,
21:32stomp on their heads,
21:33their necks,
21:34their feet,
21:35their hands.
21:37But then he started
21:39taking that out on Mama.
21:42And it wasn't pretty.
21:44The first time
21:46that I knew
21:49Don beat my mom
21:51was when Marie
21:52called me
21:53from the neighbors
21:54and said,
21:56he,
21:57he beat her so bad
21:59she's in the hospital.
22:00And it was so bad.
22:02It was.
22:08When I was 13,
22:10I had come home
22:11from a babysitting job.
22:14And when I came in,
22:17I don't even know
22:18how she was still alive.
22:19I really don't.
22:20Neither did I.
22:21He was,
22:21he was hitting her
22:23in the face
22:23with the butt
22:24of his rifle.
22:26He was just,
22:28then he put the rifle down
22:30and he just started
22:31punching her.
22:32It was just surreal.
22:34I went in
22:35and of course,
22:36you know,
22:36got in the middle of it
22:37and pulled him off
22:38and then got really mad.
22:41It's just,
22:42the look in his face
22:43was complete
22:43and utter evil.
22:46It was.
22:46Red eyes.
22:47Yeah.
22:48And he grabbed me
22:49by the throat
22:50and held me
22:51against the wall.
22:54Somehow I ended up
22:55getting loose
22:55and I took off running
22:58and I just remember
22:59turning around
23:00and he was
23:01at the corner
23:02of the house
23:02with the rifle
23:03pointed at me.
23:06I'm not sure
23:07why he didn't shoot me
23:08but I did get away
23:09and that's where
23:10the cops were called
23:12and they did take her
23:13to the hospital
23:14and that's when
23:14I called Dawn.
23:16And then I went up
23:17to the hospital
23:19and when I went in
23:20and saw her,
23:21I mean,
23:21I can't even explain
23:22to you how bad.
23:23It was,
23:25there weren't
23:26too many spots
23:27on her body
23:27that didn't have a bruise.
23:31The doctors told me
23:32that she was lucky
23:33to be alive.
23:35If it happened again,
23:36she probably wouldn't
23:37survive.
23:38They said they had
23:39a psychologist
23:41talking to her too
23:42because she refused
23:43to press charges.
23:44She was terrified
23:45of him.
23:46She was terrified
23:46of him.
23:48And I said,
23:49you know,
23:50mom,
23:50you need to leave him.
23:51You have to leave him.
23:53And she said,
23:54you don't understand,
23:54I can't.
23:55He told me if I do,
23:57he'll kill you kids.
23:58And I said,
23:59well,
23:59he won't do anything
24:01to us kids
24:01if we let the police
24:02know that he's
24:03threatening us.
24:05And then she really
24:06started shaking
24:07and she really
24:08started crying
24:08and she said,
24:09no,
24:09you don't understand.
24:11She said,
24:12you need to leave it alone.
24:14He knows people
24:15and he has connections.
24:23Well,
24:23at least we're
24:24in counts of left,
24:25David.
24:25We made it.
24:27Yeah,
24:28long trip though.
24:30We did pretty good
24:31at the time.
24:32We left Wednesday
24:33at 8 p.m.
24:34and it's Friday
24:35at 3.30,
24:36so,
24:37and what was it,
24:38like,
24:381,600 miles?
24:41About.
25:05This looks like our apartment.
25:07Our garage is over there,
25:09David,
25:09opposite end
25:10of where we're
25:10going to be.
25:11Oh,
25:12well.
25:16Yeah,
25:16let's meet a neighbor
25:17by taking off
25:18their mirror.
25:19Nah,
25:20just total their car.
25:23I'm David McKitty.
25:24I'm not that much
25:25of a talkative person,
25:26so I don't know
25:26what else to say
25:27after that,
25:28really.
25:29Your mom says
25:29that you're a magician.
25:32Very lightly,
25:33yes.
25:33Mom exaggerates
25:34the amount of tricks
25:35I actually know.
25:36In my wallet,
25:38considering it's
25:38a normal wallet,
25:39but little do people know
25:40is that it bursts
25:41into flames.
25:44Starting to run out
25:45of fluid on that.
25:49The first time
25:51I remember
25:51Mom talking about
25:53her dad
25:54killing people,
25:56it was around
25:57eight to ten.
26:01Whenever she
26:02hasn't been investigating,
26:03it's been relatively normal.
26:05We've lived normal life.
26:07Whenever we do
26:09end up investigating,
26:10she goes in-depth
26:11with it.
26:12Most of the time,
26:13it causes us to
26:15leave the place
26:16we're at.
26:17It causes us to go
26:18quite downhill
26:19money-wise.
26:20Eventually,
26:21the money problems
26:22would actually,
26:22when I was younger,
26:24get so bad
26:24that she had to
26:26take a break
26:26from the investigation
26:27just because,
26:28if not,
26:29we were going
26:29to be homeless.
26:31So,
26:32she'll stop
26:33for a year to three,
26:35get back
26:36to a good state
26:37financially,
26:38but then
26:39she always thinks,
26:40maybe I can finally
26:41get the justice again,
26:42which begins
26:43the whole cycle
26:44of going
26:45through the investigation,
26:46getting nowhere,
26:47losing all the money,
26:48restart the cycle.
26:51I'm getting tired
26:52of moving around
26:53a ton.
26:54It has caused
26:55quite a lot
26:57of fighting
26:57between us,
26:58but I know
27:00mom's not
27:00just crazy enough
27:02to ruin our lives
27:04repeatedly over this.
27:06If mom's lying,
27:08which I know
27:08she's not,
27:09there'd be
27:10absolute no reason
27:11to at this point.
27:16When I was pregnant
27:17with my son,
27:18David,
27:19and after he was born,
27:21I knew
27:22that I had
27:23to get better.
27:25I wanted to be
27:26a better mom
27:26for David.
27:30But I have
27:31ruined his life
27:31three times
27:32in 23 years
27:34going after
27:34those bodies
27:36where I put myself
27:38on the verge
27:39of bankruptcy
27:39and I get myself
27:42out and then
27:43I put myself
27:44right back in.
27:47I tried to be happy.
27:49I tried to forget.
27:52I had a husband,
27:53a son,
27:54a house.
27:55I should have
27:56been happy.
27:58But deep inside
28:00I wasn't
28:02because
28:04there was bodies
28:05in a well.
28:07I can't forget
28:08about them.
28:09I would look
28:10at my son
28:11and I would think,
28:12what if it was
28:13him in the well?
28:14If my son
28:15was missing,
28:17I would want
28:18to know.
28:24I can't believe
28:25I left Florida
28:26to move to Iowa.
28:31I'm sitting here
28:32relaxing.
28:33I'm sunburned.
28:34I'm soaking wet
28:36from sweat.
28:41This better
28:42be worth it.
28:47It better
28:49be worth it.
28:59Down in the
29:01willow garden
29:03Where me
29:04and my love
29:05did meet
29:07There we
29:09sat a cordon
29:12My love
29:13dropped off
29:14to sleep
29:15I stabbed
29:17her with
29:18my dagger
29:20Which was
29:21a bloody knife
29:23And I threw
29:25her into
29:27the river
29:28Which was
29:30a dreadful sight
29:32My father
29:34often told me
29:37That money
29:38would set
29:39set me free
29:40If I
29:42would murder
29:43that dear
29:44little girl
29:45whose name
29:46was
29:47Rose Connolly
29:53We're rolling
29:54Camera rolling
29:55and speeding
29:57Great
29:58Alright so
30:00why don't you
30:00start by just
30:01saying your name
30:01and
30:04what you've come
30:04here to tell us
30:07I'm Robert
30:07I'm Robert
30:08Masson
30:08and I helped
30:08Don's duty
30:09carry a body
30:10in with a
30:10praise
30:25How do you know
30:26for sure
30:28that the body
30:29you helped
30:30carry
30:31is
30:31when I saw
30:34the newspaper
30:35article
30:36I recognized
30:37the trailer
30:39and I just
30:39boom
30:40I was there
30:45I met
30:46Don
30:46at the bar
30:47near Thurman
30:48I'm not sure
30:49the name of the town
30:50I was in my
30:51twenties
30:52being drunk
30:53and stoned
30:54going bar hopping
30:55I mean that's
30:56what I did
30:58Don was working
30:59behind the bar
31:00and there weren't
31:01very many
31:02patrons
31:03at the bar
31:05he started
31:05buying me
31:06drinks
31:08and then
31:08he asked me
31:09if I
31:10want to earn
31:11a hundred bucks
31:12to help me
31:13move some stuff
31:14Sure
31:20I drove my car
31:21we had separate
31:22vehicles
31:23and I just
31:23followed him
31:26we ended up
31:27at the Green
31:27Hollow resident
31:28with the trailer
31:29there
31:33oh yeah
31:34that's the right
31:34place
31:35it's just
31:35a lot of
31:36things have
31:36changed
31:39I'd parked
31:40here
31:40but he asked
31:41me to move
31:41my car
31:41over there
31:42and he parked
31:42his truck
31:42back in here
31:43and then
31:44went around
31:45and there was
31:45a body
31:46wrapped up
31:46in white
31:48I don't know
31:49if it was
31:49plastic
31:49or cloth
31:50but all I saw
31:52were some
31:53black
31:55Converse
31:55like tennis
31:56shoes
31:56and he said
31:57it was a woman
32:01he grabbed
32:02one hand
32:02I grabbed
32:02the other
32:03and we walked
32:03down this way
32:09and he was
32:09leading the way
32:10and he was
32:10going pretty good
32:11clip
32:12and I was
32:14stumbling behind
32:14and it was
32:16an awkward
32:16feeling
32:18and this was
32:19just a skinny
32:19path with trees
32:21on both sides
32:21it wasn't open
32:22like it is now
32:24but we went
32:25back
32:25and we went
32:28went a ways
32:30this would be
32:31about the most
32:31that I could
32:32have gone
32:32with it
32:36I was winded
32:37and I just
32:37dropped
32:38the end
32:39of the body
32:39I had
32:41and he didn't
32:41get mad
32:42and I just
32:42said this
32:43isn't for me
32:44and he said
32:45go on back
32:46where you were
32:46and I'll get
32:47I'll do
32:48the rest of this
32:52hopped in my car
32:52and I sped away
32:55I remember
32:56it was going
32:57so fast
32:57I thought
32:58I was going
32:58to almost
32:59rack off
32:59this travel
33:00road
33:03I didn't feel
33:04safe yet
33:05I still felt
33:06under the
33:09umbrella of fear
33:10I could have
33:11been buried
33:11in the same hole
33:12or whatever
33:13that he buried
33:13that lady's body
33:16do you remember
33:16what part
33:17of the body
33:18you were carrying
33:19I think
33:20I was carrying
33:21the upper
33:22torso
33:23and he was
33:24carrying the feet
33:25as we walked
33:26that was
33:27traumatic to me
33:28to him
33:29it was like
33:31everyday occurrence
33:32or something
33:33it was like
33:34no big deal
33:36this one
33:37this first rodeo
33:38this one
33:39this first time
33:41I've done this
33:42before
33:48I'm uncomfortable
33:49bringing this
33:50stuff up
33:50from the past
33:51I never shared
33:52it with anyone
33:52I buried it
33:55buried it deep
33:56I have nothing
33:57to gain
33:59like coming
34:00forward
34:00I mean
34:01it's a risk
34:02for my future
34:05a lot of people
34:06aren't believing
34:06Lucy
34:08so I'm compelled
34:09to stand up
34:11for her
34:12my hope
34:13is that
34:14someone
34:14follows Lucy's
34:16story
34:17and finds
34:18the bodies
34:19because I'm
34:19I'm sure
34:20they're there
34:21I know
34:22there's at least
34:22one there
34:31I was 14
34:33years old
34:34in February
34:34of 1984
34:35when Charlotte
34:36died
34:37she was trying
34:38to leave dad
34:39you know
34:40she had a place
34:42she came home
34:43that night
34:44to get her
34:44belongings
34:45and she was
34:46trying to get
34:46her clothes
34:47and dad said
34:49the bitch
34:50can leave
34:51with nothing
34:52here's a picture
34:53of my father
34:54and my stepmother
34:55if you can tell
34:56they looked
34:57all lovey lovey
34:57they used to walk
34:58hand in hand
34:59arm in arm
35:00when she was
35:01sober
35:02she was the sweetest
35:03kindest gal
35:03in the world
35:05even to this day
35:06I miss her
35:09I really can't
35:11remember what
35:11went down that night
35:12all I know
35:13is once they
35:14started arguing
35:14we all went
35:15to our rooms
35:16Lucy and Linda
35:16went to their room
35:17I went to mine
35:20I was watching TV
35:22in the living room
35:22and I just tried
35:23to stay out
35:25of their fight
35:26and she made
35:27a couple of trips
35:28in and out of the house
35:29through her car
35:30and every time
35:31she left
35:32she had clothes
35:34clutched to her
35:34because dad was
35:35trying to grab him
35:36out of her hand
35:40my bedroom door
35:41was shut
35:43and they were
35:44arguing in their
35:44bedroom
35:45maybe I know
35:46how long
35:47it was for a while
35:47and then I heard
35:49her stomping
35:49down the hallway
35:51I just remember
35:52exact words
35:53fuck you
35:53I'll kill myself
35:57and she took
35:58off out the front
35:58door
36:01dad left
36:01about an hour
36:02later
36:03I didn't see him
36:04go out the door
36:04but I heard
36:05the door slam
36:06and his car
36:07was gone
36:10he came home
36:11in the morning
36:12and the first
36:14thing he said
36:14when he walked
36:15in the door
36:15is I found
36:16Charlotte dead
36:17in her car
36:18she committed
36:19suicide
36:19and he went
36:20to the phone
36:20and called
36:21the police
36:22after he hung
36:23up
36:23dad told
36:24Susan Linden
36:25me that
36:25we better
36:26say that
36:26he was home
36:27all night
36:27so we did
36:30but I do
36:31remember
36:32I was numb
36:33because
36:35I knew
36:36she didn't
36:36commit suicide
36:37and that
36:37dad killed
36:38her
36:39did your dad
36:40talk to you
36:41about what
36:42to say to the
36:42police when
36:43they come
36:43no
36:44not at all
36:46he's dead
36:46why would I
36:47condone him
36:47now
36:48dad was home
36:49that night
36:49I got up
36:50to go to the
36:50bathroom
36:50in the middle
36:51of the night
36:51there was a
36:51lump in the
36:52bed
36:53I have no
36:54idea what
36:54went down
36:54when she
36:55left the
36:55house
36:56Lucy and Linda
36:56have no
36:57idea
36:58I wish I
36:59would have
36:59stopped her
37:00but she
37:01was drunk
37:02I think if
37:03she would
37:03have been
37:03sober
37:04I don't
37:05think she
37:05would have
37:05killed herself
37:09according to
37:10the police
37:10report
37:11Charlotte shot
37:12herself using
37:13my dad's
37:13rifle
37:14but that
37:15night
37:16I saw her
37:17leave each
37:17time
37:17she never
37:18tucked the
37:19gun
37:19you can't
37:20shoot yourself
37:21with a gun
37:21if you never
37:22tuck it
37:24I had my
37:25door shut
37:25I saw no
37:26gun
37:26I don't know
37:28where she
37:28got the
37:29gun
37:29but I
37:29swear on
37:30my soul
37:31I don't
37:32care if
37:32people think
37:32I'm lying
37:33God knows
37:34I'm not
37:34lying
37:35I heard
37:35her say
37:35the words
37:36I heard
37:37her say
37:37fuck you
37:38I'll kill
37:38myself
37:38the way
37:39wife did
37:40Susan
37:41is lying
37:43but
37:44I understand
37:45why she's
37:46lying
37:46I really
37:47do
37:48my dad's
37:49manipulation
37:50was master
37:52level
37:52he could
37:53convince you
37:54of anything
37:56he could
37:57be mentally
37:58and physically
37:59abusive
37:59abusive to
37:59you
38:01and you
38:01still
38:02want to
38:03try to
38:03please
38:03him
38:05so
38:05being around
38:06dad
38:07and having
38:07him twist
38:08your mind
38:08like that
38:09she's turned
38:10him into
38:10a saint
38:24I saw
38:25both of them
38:26be abusive
38:26towards each
38:27other
38:27there was
38:28times we
38:28pulled
38:29Charlotte off
38:29of dad
38:29there's times
38:30we pulled
38:30dad off
38:31of Charlotte
38:31there's times
38:31we pulled
38:32them off
38:32each other
38:33Charlotte could
38:33fight
38:34she was a
38:34tiny woman
38:35but she
38:35could hold
38:36her own
38:37men
38:38aren't
38:38supposed
38:38to
38:39hit
38:39women
38:39which
38:39is
38:39fine
38:39but you
38:40know
38:40what
38:41when women
38:41hit
38:41men
38:41you gotta
38:42expect
38:43to get
38:43I mean
38:45they both
38:46were innocent
38:47do you
38:48remember
38:48threatening
38:48to kill
38:49Charlotte
38:50they threatened
38:51to kill
38:51each other
38:52all the time
38:52then the next
38:53day
38:53oh I love
38:54you so much
38:56do you think
38:57your father
38:57was
38:58piling
38:59was willing
38:59to sort of
39:00beat someone
39:00into the hospital
39:01but he would
39:02just stop
39:02short of
39:03killing them
39:03he would
39:03never kill
39:04them
39:05well
39:06maybe the time
39:07Charlotte went
39:08to the hospital
39:08but there was
39:09times dad
39:10was pretty
39:10bloody too
39:11but he didn't
39:11go to the
39:11hospital
39:12a cat
39:13scratched
39:28it's
39:298 35
39:30a.m
39:32we are
39:32going down
39:33to the
39:34Thurman
39:35cemetery
39:36Charlotte
39:37is being
39:38exhumed
39:39out of her
39:39grave
39:40I'm with
39:42Marie
39:43and Charlotte
39:44her two
39:45daughters
39:46we just
39:47exited
39:47interstate
39:4829
39:49and we
39:50got to
39:50go through
39:50Thurman
39:51to get
39:51to the
39:52cemetery
40:00my school
40:01used to be
40:01right here
40:02where that
40:02shed is
40:03Thurman
40:03elementary
40:04Charlotte
40:05was there
40:05Charlotte
40:06came to
40:07my school
40:07for some
40:09Christmas
40:09patch
40:09oh really
40:11this is my
40:13kind of
40:13country
40:13it is
40:14pretty
40:14here
40:15and it's
40:16peaceful
40:17and the
40:18road is
40:19right here
40:19take a
40:20left
40:20yep
40:21oh the
40:22truck is
40:22already
40:23there
40:23they better
40:25not start
40:25without us
40:26well it's not
40:27nine o'clock yet
40:28okay
40:28they just
40:29probably have
40:29to get
40:29themselves
40:30all set up
40:30yep
40:31that's us
40:32right there
40:33is
40:33they started
40:34already
40:35they weren't
40:36supposed to
40:36freaking
40:36start
40:37okay
40:38this is
40:39what's
40:39wrong
40:40with
40:40fucking
40:42who in
40:42the hell
40:43is up
40:43here
40:43I don't
40:44know
40:47what a
40:47question
40:49why did
40:49you start
40:51well it takes
40:52quite a bit
40:53of time to get
40:53everything ready
40:54so that's
40:55why everything
40:56involves dog
40:56and everything
40:57you guys
40:58weren't supposed
40:58to start
40:59without us
41:00that's
41:00that's how
41:01we've got
41:01everybody's on
41:02a time
41:02schedule
41:04you guys
41:05didn't tell
41:06us that
41:07but it
41:08takes
41:08I mean
41:08these guys
41:09have to
41:09get everything
41:10but when you
41:11say 9 a.m
41:12it's supposed
41:13to be 9 a.m
41:14I know
41:15I get it
41:15but it
41:16takes
41:17hours to dig
41:18this grave
41:19he had to
41:19move stone
41:20it just would
41:21have been
41:21nice to know
41:22we really
41:22truly wanted
41:23to be here
41:23so since
41:25I'm a one
41:25man guy
41:26and by Iowa
41:27law I have
41:28to be here
41:28I couldn't
41:29say well what
41:30time is it
41:30going to come
41:30out of the
41:31ground
41:31I don't know
41:31my schedule
41:32as soon as
41:33you even
41:33broke ground
41:34you should have
41:34called us
41:35we could have
41:36came out
41:36why did you
41:38break ground
41:39without calling
41:40us
41:40I need one
41:40phone call
41:40right now
41:41so I can
41:42end this
41:42real quick
41:42do you know
41:43what
41:43I do
41:44I do
41:45she's a
41:46loose
41:46can
41:46why did
41:47you break
41:47ground
41:47can you
41:48please
41:48stop
41:49I get
41:49that this
41:50has all
41:50changed
41:51but you
41:51screaming at
41:52people is
41:53not helping
41:53it
41:54so stop
41:54he broke
41:55ground
41:55I don't
41:56fucking
41:57care
41:57right now
41:58stop
41:59just
42:00leave it
42:05stop it
42:06no because
42:07you're acting
42:08like your
42:08fucking father
42:09right now
42:09so stop
42:10why didn't
42:11he call
42:12because
42:12it broke
42:13ground
42:13and they
42:14didn't call
42:14get it
42:16but it isn't
42:17helping
42:17stop it
42:18if you're
42:18gonna be like
42:19this go sit
42:20the call
42:22when they're
42:22nothing but
42:23a bunch of
42:23small town
42:24small minded
42:25fuck
42:25that's not
42:26why my dad
42:27got away
42:28with murder
42:28do you know
42:29what maybe my dad
42:30should have put
42:30more fucking
42:31people in the
42:32well
42:33and he can
42:33start with
42:34that man
42:35you see
42:36don't hurt
42:36my
42:36come on
42:37you just
42:38dented the
42:38fucking truck
42:39look at it
42:40you dented the
42:41fucking truck
42:43I'm getting my
42:44shit out of here
42:45I'm never talking
42:46to my
42:46stepsisters
42:46again
42:49I'm gonna get
42:50my 9mm
42:51and I'm gonna
42:51solve it
42:52the way
42:52my dad
42:52solves
42:53shit
42:55what is wrong
42:56with people
42:57in Stremont
42:58County
42:58do you not
42:59know
42:59that there's
43:00fucking bodies
43:01up there
43:01I'm not lying
43:02there's fucking
43:03bodies up there
43:04calm down
43:08everybody should
43:09be mad
43:09there's fucking
43:10bodies up there
43:12more bodies
43:13than here
43:15and you guys
43:16just
43:16call me
43:17like
43:17no big
43:18deal
43:18there's
43:19fucking
43:19bodies
43:20up there
43:29my dad
43:29goes
43:29seems like
43:30every woman
43:31I love
43:31dies on
43:32because
43:32I don't
43:33understand
43:35Charlotte
43:36Studi
43:36was found
43:37in a
43:38vehicle
43:38in front
43:39of a
43:39house
43:40she had
43:40a bullet
43:40wound
43:41at the
43:41right
43:41temple
43:41he said
43:42your mom
43:43committed
43:43suicide
43:44and he said
43:44no she
43:45didn't
43:45I saw
43:46the electrical
43:47cord hanging
43:48from the
43:49crossbar
43:49it just
43:50didn't add
43:51up
43:51she's trying
43:52to protect
43:53herself
43:53as the
43:54guns fired
43:55he's got
43:56two wives
43:57and a
43:57girlfriend
43:57who he
43:58called in
43:59to the
43:59police
44:00reporting
44:00their deaths
44:01what's the
44:02odds of that
44:02I think
44:02he'd be
44:03better off
44:03winning
44:03the lottery
44:04she said
44:05how could
44:06I not
44:07be loyal
44:07to my
44:07brother
44:08he killed
44:08for me
44:10I don't
44:10understand
44:11the actions
44:12of the
44:12Fremont
44:12County
44:13Sheriff's
44:13Department
44:13do you
44:14think
44:14there is
44:15any
44:15cover up
44:16here
44:17you don't
44:17want to go
44:18down that
44:18path with
44:19me because
44:19I guarantee
44:20you you
44:20will not
44:21like that
44:22at all
44:31and now
44:32he sits
44:33by his
44:34own
44:34cottage
44:35door
44:35a wipe
44:36in his
44:37tear
44:37dimmed
44:38eye
44:39and now
44:41he waits
44:42for his
44:42own
44:43dear son
44:44upon
44:45the
44:45scaffold
44:46high
44:47my
44:48rest
44:49is
44:50run
44:50beneath
44:51the
44:52sun
44:52though
44:53hell's
44:53now
44:54waiting
44:54for me
44:55for I
44:57have
44:58murdered
44:58that
44:59dear
44:59little
45:00girl
45:00whose
45:01name
45:01was
45:02Rose
45:02Connelly
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