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Michael Jackson The Trial S01E01 (2026)
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00:04Peter Pan is an ancient, ancient soul, and he finds these families, and he takes the children to Neverland where
00:13they stay young forever.
00:29I've seen children just shower all over me with love. They want to just touch me and hug me, hold
00:36on, and cry, and not let go.
00:42Michael Jackson met Gavin Arviso in 2000. He was 10 years old, and he was dying of cancer.
01:01Michael wanted me to edit a short film of Michael and Gavin.
01:09And I don't think it was meant for the public to see.
01:23When I see that footage, it makes me uneasy.
01:30Is it possible that Michael is a child molester? Is it possible that he did something to this kid?
01:38Dozens of investigators swarmed Michael Jackson's Neverland Ranch.
01:43The search is tied to allegations from a 12-year-old boy that he was molested by Jackson.
01:48Sheriff's Department, we have search warrant.
01:50I was told that if you say or do anything, you're going to kill your career.
01:55Are there any secret rooms?
01:57Michael had some kind of control over me. I didn't say what I should have said.
02:03Tonight, Jackson is wanted by police.
02:06The entire accusations against Michael was a scam.
02:11Michael Jackson under arrest.
02:13He had a succession of boys coming through his room and spending the night.
02:17He could abuse children almost with impunity.
02:24I remember Gavin's mom saying, I don't care what he offers, I will never take the devil's money.
02:32Jerry in Santa Maria, California, has reached a verdict.
02:36If he's found guilty, it'll be a journey not back to Neverland, but straight to prison.
02:42Do you think he's innocent?
02:45After everything you've seen, do you think he's possibly innocent?
03:13Michael Jackson has a lot at stake.
03:16After years of scandal and some pretty odd behavior, the king of pop may have to fight to retain his
03:22title.
03:24At one time, the singer Michael Jackson was the hottest showbiz act in the world, but then his career drastically
03:30declined.
03:34When I met Michael Jackson, he was renting this beautiful townhouse right off Central Park.
03:41I walk in and Michael's in this room.
03:44It was a little bit like this, you know.
03:46It was not a lot of light.
03:48And he's very shy.
03:49Michael is very shy.
03:51So I just started asking him questions like, what are you doing in New York?
03:55I'm finishing my Invincible album.
03:57Little did I realize that was going on for like a decade already.
04:03I was the rabbi at Oxford University for 11 years.
04:08And because I was so involved in the space of helping people order their lives, I felt that I could
04:13do that for Michael.
04:16I mean, everyone knew that Michael Jackson was troubled in some way, that he was a little bit off. He
04:23was different.
04:25In fact, if we want to be a little bit less kind, he was called Wacko Jacko.
04:33We started talking and the conversation just began to roll.
04:36Probably turned into a two, three hour meeting.
04:39And then he starts sharing even these very private things immediately.
04:46Testing, one, two, three, testing.
04:49Okay.
04:50Let me ask you about, were you happy when I was little?
04:56Nobody's heard those tapes before.
04:59And the things that Michael reveals in those tapes have no precedence.
05:04My father made sure that we rehearsed every day.
05:08We had a bell in his hand.
05:09If you went out of step, you'd get it real bad.
05:11She'd be breaking furniture and it was just terrible.
05:16My mother, she'd always be in the back.
05:19I hear it now.
05:19Joe, no, you're going to kill him.
05:21No, no, Joe, it's too much.
05:24Throw you and hit you as hard as he can.
05:27How did I feel listening to it?
05:31Unnerved.
05:32But I did begin to understand Michael so much more deeply.
05:38My father comes home late.
05:42Open the door.
05:44The door is locked.
05:46He said, I'm giving you five seconds.
05:48You don't open it, I'm going to kick it down.
05:49And he starts kicking it.
05:51Boom!
05:51Kick it, like breaking the door.
05:52And I'm, why do you sign that contract today?
05:55I go, I don't know.
05:56He goes, well, sign it.
05:57If you don't sign it, you're in trouble.
06:02Joseph had this thing.
06:04I'm raising men, not boys.
06:08Crying was unacceptable.
06:09Anything that he thought made them appear the least bit feminine, that didn't sit well with him at all.
06:20His father had wanted him to be a performer but had never given him unconditional love.
06:25And he said to me, do you understand that from the age of five I was taken to nightclubs?
06:31Where we saw stuff, nightclubs.
06:34Every night I was in clubs.
06:36There was a lady who took off all her clothes, threw her panties in the audience.
06:40And the men would grab them and sniff them.
06:42She put these things on her breasts and move them around.
06:44And then she showed everything.
06:48His brothers, anytime they were on tour, when they were adults, there were many women that they would go in
06:54and out of hotels with all that, you know, rock and roll stuff.
06:58Except for Michael, Michael would run away from it.
07:04Sometimes even by his own admission, he would cry.
07:09He always said to me, he found it disgusting.
07:12Did it lead him to believe that sex can be disgusting?
07:14Yeah, possibly.
07:16That's not the best way to discover what love and sex is about.
07:21I always said, if I ever have kids, I will never behave this way.
07:25I say I won't touch a hair on their head.
07:28Because people always say the abuse, abuse, and it's not true.
07:32I'm totally the opposite.
07:36Michael was robbed of that childhood innocence.
07:40And Michael spent his life trying to get the world's attention, thinking it might compensate.
07:43And it never did.
07:57I met Michael Jackson in 1984.
08:01The Jackson 5 wasn't the victory tour, their reunion.
08:05Michael introduced the moonwalk to the world at that time.
08:08I saw Michael Jackson!
08:10I saw Michael Jackson!
08:12Yeah, I saw it!
08:13At that time, his popularity was through the roof.
08:26When you think about 1984 and you think about Michael Jackson, you think about this dark-skinned black man who
08:32women, whether they were black, white or whatever, they were crazy about him.
08:37Thought he was the most handsome dude there was.
08:39He was sexy, he was charming, he was electric.
08:44He was the king of pop.
08:47And then there was this mystery to him, too, because he never really said much.
08:50He lives here with his mother and two sisters, a boa constrictor, a llama, and a room full of mannequins.
08:57He loves mannequins.
08:58He is a Jehovah's Witness.
09:01He is a Jehovah's Witness, neither smokes, drinks, nor swears, loves Disneyland, and is very shy.
09:08And then Michael did something weird.
09:11In the late 80s, early 90s, he stopped really having adult friends.
09:18I know family members were wondering, what's happening there?
09:23He basically cut them off.
09:27And then, of course, he built this amazing place, Neverland.
09:47It was a very isolated ranch, like 3,000 acres.
09:52So, there was this contradictory dichotomy of him, on the one hand, being the most recognizable entertainer on Earth, and
10:00then, on the other hand, never visible.
10:05So, when you built Neverland, was it your special place to protect yourself?
10:11Yeah, I could walk around on a lake and not know what I'm being spied at.
10:18I was just creating, in my life, things I never got to do as a child.
10:32Peter Pan knew what the real golden magic of childhood was all about.
10:36And he finds these families, and he takes the children to Neverland, where they stay young forever.
10:46It was the summer of 2000.
10:48My family and I arrived in Neverland.
10:54Michael was so reclusive, never visible, always hidden away.
10:58And I would say to him, you're a youthful guy, and you don't have friends here.
11:03He was totally alienated from his father.
11:05And I began to understand that Michael was living a nightmare.
11:17Michael!
11:18Stop pulling it down!
11:19Michael!
11:20Stop!
11:22Oh, my God!
11:23Michael!
11:24They're getting hurt.
11:25Okay, up, up, up.
11:26Michael!
11:27Come on, watch your fingers!
11:28Put your hand down!
11:29Watch your fingers!
11:30You're so beautiful!
11:30Watch your fingers!
11:32You're so beautiful!
11:33I love you!
11:34I love you!
11:34I love you!
11:36Working for Michael Jackson was a sea of madness all the time.
11:40Michael, did you sign my picture for me yesterday?
11:43Can you give it back to me, please?
11:44I didn't see it!
11:44I'm sorry, I didn't see it!
11:45I love it!
11:46Okay, we gotta go!
11:48We have to go!
11:49Watch out!
11:50We have to go!
11:50Watch your neck!
11:51Watch your head!
11:52Watch your head!
11:53Watch your head!
11:54Pull it back!
11:55Pull it back!
11:56Why aren't they helping us out there?
11:57Let's kill you!
11:58Okay, all the way up!
11:59All the way up!
12:00Let go!
12:02I was a 21-year-old producer, trying to make it in Hollywood.
12:07One project led to another project, and before I know it, I'm working for the biggest star
12:13in the history of stardom, Michael Jackson.
12:18From that day on for the next few years, me and Michael's director of photography filmed everything
12:24for Michael.
12:26Going into a public place with Michael Jackson can only be properly or sufficiently understood
12:33if you actually have seen it happen.
12:41There is no comparison to Michael Jackson fans versus the rest of fandom.
12:49It is an entire different planet.
13:03It is people that truly look at Michael Jackson, not just as a man, but also as a god, and
13:11their religion.
13:17It's like the biblical version of modern stardom.
13:27But I have very, very few memories of when I actually felt like Michael was happy.
13:33I think that the only times that I really saw Michael happy was when he was playing, when
13:39he was surrounded by kids.
13:43And that's why Neverland was perfect for Michael Jackson.
13:50If any kid could build their dream house, they would build Neverland Ranch.
13:56A train station, a carousel, roller coasters, a zoo.
14:04It was just surreal.
14:07Michael Jackson, in my opinion, was just a kid.
14:17I never saw a sexual side of Michael Jackson.
14:21I saw an asexual man who wanted to be 12 years old and wanted to have water balloon fights.
14:27Welcome to Neverland.
14:29Hey!
14:29And have a wonderful day, okay?
14:31Thank you!
14:37We love you!
14:38I saw a ton of kids visit Neverland.
14:41I saw a ton of sick kids with big smiles on their faces.
14:45I wanted to be a place where I could bring sick kids and deprived and underprivileged around the world.
14:51Thank you!
14:52Thank you!
14:54Thank you!
14:54Thank you!
14:55I hate it for them where they can feel safe and have some escapism.
14:58Or kids who never got to see this type of thing in the inner city.
15:02You know, breathe fresh air and see the mountain.
15:08You have all these sick kids who came to Neverland Ranch and met Michael Jackson and met this Peter Pan
15:13-like figure and had the time of their lives for one day before they went back to a cancer hospital.
15:26Michael wanted me to understand that he had noble motives, that he was a good person, that he had a
15:32kind heart, that he was genuinely devoted to children in general and to sickly children in particular.
15:39And Michael kept on saying to me that a child who has cancer, who he had met and befriended, was
15:44coming to stay for the first time.
15:54Gavin Arviso was a ten-year-old kid.
15:58He was small, he was frail, and he had terminal cancer.
16:06I remember having to edit a short film of Michael and Gavin.
16:15The video was made for Gavin's family and for Michael to enjoy and for Michael to have.
16:22And I don't think it was meant for the public to see.
16:29The first time you see it, I think you're a little taken back, especially if you don't know Michael Jackson
16:36really well.
16:38It felt really uncomfortable because it's an adult man seemingly having like a picnic with a ten-year-old.
16:51It shows Michael and Gavin holding hands.
16:56And the soundtrack that Michael specifically wanted to use was I'll Be There, which is a really, really sweet song.
17:03But it seems to sound like a little bit of a romantic song to the adult ear.
17:08But he wanted to be his best friend.
17:10He wanted to give this kid the best possible memories that he could at the end of his life.
17:17I'm gonna walk out of the shot.
17:32Gavin just had chemotherapy. He's not feeling good. He just touches your heart.
17:38To me, he represents a white light that we see before it dies.
17:41He's that light, that hope. Don't be afraid. Come.
17:44It's like an ancient.
17:56I walked into Gavin's hospital room and there was a gigantic gift basket full of things like PlayStations.
18:06And I said, who, who gave you that? And Gavin said, Michael.
18:14But that's the first time I heard about the involvement of Michael Jackson in Gavin's life.
18:22I was teaching stand-up comedy at the Laugh Factory to kids from tough neighborhoods.
18:31And Gavin was naturally funny.
18:37The Arvizos lived in East L.A. in a one-bedroom apartment.
18:44There were mattresses on the floors and sheets dividing where the parents slept and where the children slept.
18:53Janet Arvizos had three kids. She was an effervescent, outgoing person who wanted to give her kids opportunities even though
19:01they didn't have a lot of money.
19:04Gavin was a very affectionate child and his father had been abusive.
19:08So he craved attention.
19:12We had comedians that work frequently at the Laugh Factory helping out as mentors.
19:16I saw a lot of people going out of their way to help Gavin and this family.
19:21And so he was introduced to Michael Jackson because they thought he would get joy out of it.
19:32Gavin would talk to me about the fun he was having at Neverland and how I should go with them.
19:42Janet told me that Michael and Gavin were doing a lot of pranks, a lot of sneaking up on people,
19:49a lot of playful wrestling.
19:53And I would say, where is everyone sleeping?
19:58She would say, oh, we're sleeping in the cottages.
20:02I never said to her, I worry, but my view is that Michael Jackson probably had a sexual attraction for
20:14children.
20:19I knew about the Jordan Chandler accusations.
20:24So this is 10 years prior to Gavin.
20:28Michael Jackson is at the center of a criminal investigation.
20:31Pop superstar Michael Jackson is facing allegations of child abuse.
20:35He knew how to manipulate his world.
20:38I am not guilty of these allegations, but if I am guilty of anything, it is of giving all that
20:45I have, all that I have to give to help children all over the world.
20:51Jackson settled this case out of court and paid his accuser an estimated $20 million.
20:56There's a widespread feeling that he still has something to hide.
21:00Michael Jackson built an amusement park in the middle of nowhere.
21:05I don't think that's the behavior of somebody who's not attracted sexually to children.
21:14But we don't know the truth because we're not in the room.
21:17So all we can do is formulate an opinion.
21:22And I wasn't worried about Gavin being targeted.
21:27Because he had cancer. He was dying.
21:31I thought, why not let him go, pet the giraffe, just enjoy it.
21:45I took Gavin on the Neverland.
21:47Because you don't get to climb trees at 10 years old.
21:51We looked up and there was just the leaves and the branches and you could hear the water down below.
21:56Everybody should have that experience and never feel like I'm too grown up to climb a tree.
22:04Your love to him was amazing.
22:07It's special.
22:12Michael and Gavin had obviously created a bond through Gavin's sickness.
22:16And his family had an obvious and reasonable reason to really adore Michael.
22:27My name is Star and I really feel sad about my brother all sick and everything.
22:33All they know about the cancer is aggressive and everything.
22:38That's it.
22:40The youngest son of the Arvizos was named Star.
22:44And when you met Star, all he talked about was his future in comedy and TV.
22:49Star just wanted to be a famous kid.
22:51Star wanted to be a TV host.
22:53Star wanted so much of the L.A. and fame world.
22:59And obviously, if you're put in Michael Jackson's world and you have access to cameras and Neverland Ranch,
23:06you just found your way to the big time.
23:09Good evening. Welcome to the Neverland Channel.
23:12My name is Star.
23:13Here we are live at the Neverland Park.
23:15As you can see, the kids are excited and they're full of parkour.
23:19Michael paid for a big production crew to make a television pilot.
23:24You are watching the Neverland Channel.
23:27All kids, all fun, 24 hours around the world.
23:32And it was the exploits around Neverland Ranch, meeting the elephants, feeding the giraffes, going on the train.
23:39Look it, Michael has so many fields of grass. I love being here.
23:43Sort of like Nickelodeon at Neverland.
23:46Whoa, look at all sorts of rides over there.
23:51Gavin was in it a little bit, but Star was the host.
23:59As you can see, I'm here with the elephants and their trainers.
24:03Could I ask you?
24:05It was obviously done out of the kindness of Michael's heart to make this child star feel good about something
24:11or to do something for the child.
24:13And there you have it. It's an exclusive of the Neverland prehistoric animals.
24:19And there it is, the exclusive of the elephants.
24:24And that's a wrap.
24:26On the surface, Neverland looks like a marvelous experience for children.
24:31They felt like the most special little boys in the world.
24:34They craved more of that.
24:37Here I am with my very, very good friend of mine, Gavin.
24:41But Michael Jackson was really good at seducing these kids.
24:45He presented himself to the world.
24:48I am Peter Pan.
24:50And the spin control that he had never had a childhood was to disarm us.
24:59Well, my favorite show was the video.
25:02But it was a facade.
25:03Because I want to be the greatest dancer in the world.
25:10Gavin was a fierce little boy.
25:13But he suffered.
25:16They had to remove a giant tumor from his abdomen.
25:19They also removed one of his kidneys.
25:24I said goodbye to him in my prayers every night when I left the hospital.
25:29We thought he would die.
25:36I spoke to Gavin again last night.
25:39I was crying and messing my phone.
25:42He said, he called me daddy.
25:44He said, can I call you daddy?
25:45I said, of course.
25:49Michael.
25:50Michael helped arrange blood transfusions.
25:52He helped arrange certain cancer cares.
25:55And who knows why or how.
25:59But somehow, Gavin Arviso survived a terminal form of cancer.
26:07My heart just broke wide open.
26:13And he was really going to recover.
26:17And I was just overwhelmed by that.
26:22He went and bought Christmas presents.
26:25I remember that Gavin's hair had all grown back.
26:29I was almost in tears.
26:32But when I saw him that Christmas and he was healthy,
26:37that's when I worried about how he might really now be in harm's way
26:42regarding Michael Jackson.
27:00After Gavin got better, Janet told me that she wasn't able to get through to Michael Jackson,
27:08and they were not being invited back to Neverland.
27:12So there were all these confusing things that were happening.
27:18But I know how Gavin is, and you know, once he became friends with Michael Jackson,
27:24he wanted to spend time with Michael.
27:33Well, after spending three years and a reputed $20 million, Michael Jackson is out to rock the world
27:38with his first studio album of new songs in 10 years.
27:46I am at the Beverly Hills Hotel meeting Michael Jackson for the first time.
27:51I received a phone call from a friend at Sony who was complaining and very worried that the Michael Jackson
27:59record
27:59was not going to come in on time.
28:00And that was a problem because that's costing a million dollars, you know, a minute kind of thing.
28:08My role was to make sure that they could get a record in.
28:12When you work with like rap artists and stuff like that, it's like no hookers, no blow.
28:16We got to get this in and we got a due date of the 15th.
28:22I'm there to talk business.
28:25But then there was a mysterious man that just kind of showed up with a briefcase full of just pharmaceuticals.
28:33There was loads of pills and drugs.
28:37Yammerol was a big one.
28:40And then we zipped around the corner and went to a pharmacy and picked up more drugs.
28:45I'm like, what the hell? What is this genius? What are you talking about? He's drugged out.
28:51In the studio, I realized very quickly that we're not focused on what we should be focused on.
28:58He doesn't wake up until three in the afternoon.
29:01And then you're sitting there like waiting for hours and hours and hours.
29:05And then he gets up and I don't feel like he wasn't even there half the time.
29:12I thought, why isn't anybody saying anything?
29:16He was surrounded by yes people and if you didn't say yes, you were whisked into the corn.
29:22Michael!
29:23Michael!
29:25Michael!
29:28My biggest concern was the fact that he's woozy and out of it all the time.
29:32The fact that he would call me up from Neverland here in this house and say to me,
29:36Shmooley, I love you. I miss you.
29:42And I would say to Michael, you know that this is going to kill you.
29:45Shmooley, it's medical, it's this. I said, Michael, you know, you're too smart to talk yourself into this.
29:51There's nothing medical about this.
29:54Michael!
29:56I was trying to save him from a downward spiral.
30:00Thank you for waiting. I really appreciate it.
30:02Michael!
30:03At that time, Michael was divorced.
30:06I felt very strongly that he needed a wife.
30:09He needed a soulmate.
30:12He needed someone who would ground him.
30:14Let's go shake him up.
30:17Let's show what you do to the crowds with your daddy in the window.
30:21They've been there since 6 o'clock this morning.
30:24No, they're out in the wrong place.
30:27He had been married, Debbie wrote, and they had two kids together.
30:35It's cold all here for me.
30:38People were speculating about the marriage.
30:40Was she a surrogate mother? Was it a real marriage?
30:45I'm crying.
30:47Michael made the decision to have kids that were not African-Americans.
30:52Shake, if you want a lightsaber, shake it for me.
30:55He did not want them to have the looks of his father, and he didn't want them to have the
31:00traits of his father.
31:02Okay.
31:03In 2000, he divorces Debbie Rowe, and then he's suddenly raising the kids by himself.
31:08They were probably three and two at the time, and very attached to him.
31:13I was trying to resuscitate and rehabilitate Michael.
31:17Not his career, but his personhood.
31:20You know, to get him, let's have a more normal schedule.
31:22Let's get the kids out with play dates with other kids.
31:24Let's even get the kids maybe into school.
31:25And then he wasn't being productive with his artistry.
31:28It's a continuous kind of train wreck ride of not being able to focus on this record.
31:36You can see where it's going.
31:38It's heading towards a tragedy.
31:40A self-imposed tragedy.
31:50Michael! Michael! Michael! Michael! Michael! Michael! Michael! Michael! Michael!
31:56Shortly after the album comes out, we are committed to go to several record stores.
32:03One of them, being the biggest, is the Virgin Megastore in New York City, Times Square.
32:07Michael! Michael! Michael! Michael! Michael! Michael!
32:09He didn't want to be there.
32:12It was kind of like this feeling of hope being lost.
32:19A hit. That's what they want.
32:28That's not what they got.
32:3030 million dollars later, they get a clunker.
32:37His latest album, Invincible, only sold a disappointing 2 million copies
32:41in the U.S.
32:43Invincible? I don't think so.
32:46The train keeps going.
32:47Where's the next stop coming to, folks?
32:50The 1.
32:58Idiot.
33:05The 3.
33:08The 3.
33:09The 3.
33:16The 3.
33:19once i saw him dangling his child i mean that was game set match point for me that man shouldn't
33:25be
33:25around children what's with your brother my brother is not a crazy character he's not the
33:32wacko jackal that people say he was just caught up in the moment michael calls jermaine after the
33:38larry king interview says uh you know don't do any more interviews i have something coming up
33:45it's gonna it's gonna just blow everyone away people are gonna be amazed they're gonna be
33:49shocked with what i got coming he talked about what turned out to be the martin bashear documentary
34:00i started getting calls from someone who worked with martin bashear his jewish producer trying to
34:05like pull the jewish card actually you're a rabbi you therefore have to help me get my boss martin
34:14bashear to interview michael jackson and i went to michael and i said i don't know martin bashear
34:21but the thing he did with diana was not good
34:28bombshell after bombshell dropped by the princess of wales in her first ever primetime television
34:34interview a british public unaccustomed to television therapy sessions heard their fairy tale princess
34:40admit to having an extramarital affair an eating disorder
34:46i have known the jackson family for going on close to half a century
34:53i was the attorney to the family for many years
34:57and i knew all about the martin bashear documentary way far in advance
35:05michael's managers asked michael if there were any children that they could bring to neverland ranch
35:11to film for the documentary when gavin arvisu's name came up michael hadn't seen gavin for a year and a
35:20half so many people warned him don't do the martin bashear documentary don't do it he will hurt
35:31michael he hurt princess diana diana divorced charles as a result and you're going to do a documentary
35:40with martin bashear michael don't do it michael
35:44there's a nervousness about a very nervous tense vibe about him doing this documentary at neverland
35:54right this is an indicator that people are nervous about what michael could be doing or saying
36:00because they can't you can't control him what happens when you spend eight months with michael
36:05jackson abc start dropping amazing commercials see for yourself it's michael jackson it looks like it
36:14was going to be a phenomenal show and everyone is excited the family is excited jermaine is excited
36:21a two-hour event you have to seek to believe you know a global audience is watching this
36:33michael jackson's star has been falling for some time but the anticipation ahead of this documentary
36:39is now immense
36:42when living with michael jackson airs this evening these streets are going to be deserted
36:47fans and critics alike are saying they're going to be staying in to watch the program
36:51with his reputation in america very much at stake for michael jackson it must be a nervous wait
37:01i went to havenhurst jackson's home i sit down in the living room there and you know katherine
37:09comes down the stairs it's this winding staircase and she comes down you know jermaine is sitting
37:14on the couch next to me and we're talking and it's big television there and we watched
37:19him martin bashear documentary and i'll never forget
37:24eight months ago i put a proposal to michael jackson show me the real man but show me everything
37:32my boyfriend called and said have you seen this special with michael jackson i said no i
37:38my vcr recorded it jimmy said gavin's in it and now my heart just
37:46sank because that didn't sound like a good idea
37:58i'm staying in this little crappy hotel one night i think it was in the south somewhere
38:05and it's going to be on should i watch it no shmily don't succumb to temptation don't watch
38:10it you know it's going to upset you but i watched it
38:15did i believe that martin bashear was there to make michael look good
38:19no i did not
38:24oh show me i want to show you this is michael jackson's favorite shop in las vegas
38:30with the luckiest manager in the world
38:32how about that you bought that michael's life was not ready to be open to the public
38:37because he would wake up every day at six in the afternoon stay up the entire night
38:41you know and he was blowing money to compensate for feelings of maybe worthlessness
38:49this chess set isn't it beautiful this set and that's what you saw in that stupid documentary
38:53he goes in and spends six million dollars on total garbage and he probably never saw again
38:57oh it's sold look i bought this one right is this yours yeah that's the sold sign mean it's for
39:02me
39:02okay how much is that one did we ever get this one these ones it's only 89 000
39:09being able to have a front row seat with his family and seeing their reaction i'll never forget
39:14where michael tells martin bashear that uh he's climbing a tree he holds the umbrella
39:20yeah you go and climb it and let me and when you've climbed it let's see how inspiring it is
39:25and joseph of course like what is wrong with that boy you know
39:32jermaine was like this this this kid is crazy he's out of his mind having water balloon fights
39:38and climbing trees i think that those two are my favorite don't you prefer making love or
39:45going to and he's saying he would buy the climate tree didn't have sex
39:49this grown man they were horrified
39:55michael jackson was socially not like you or like i michael was in a different class of human
40:04i think that's why martin bashear didn't understand michael i think that's why most
40:07journalists didn't understand michael
40:10like most martin bashear productions 80 of it is really great
40:18playing with kids and comforting them that's great
40:21uh oh don't stand up here hold on and 20 of it is like getting shot in the head
40:30especially the interview with the arviso family
40:35and then i met 12 year old gavin and his brother and sister
40:39and then there was a scene where we see this young boy gavin arviso
40:44who supposedly michael helped cure his cancer
40:49was like okay they might make something of this
40:53there was one night i stood in and he asked him if i could stay in the bedroom and he
40:58let
40:58me stay in the bedroom and i was like michael he could sleep on the bed
41:01wow i just remember looking at joseph's face and jermaine's face
41:08katherine they were stunned
41:10and then he finally said okay if you love me to sleep on the bed
41:15i was like oh man and so i finally slept on the bed
41:19but it was fun that night
41:21i stood up on the floor it was like what the heck was that and you see gavin put his
41:28head
41:28michael's shoulder and there was this cloud that came over the living room
41:35why can't you share your bed
41:38the most loving thing to do is to share your bed with someone
41:42you know you really think that
41:43yeah
41:45my mouth was agape
41:47did you just say that it's okay for an adult to share
41:51a bed
41:53with a child that is not their own
41:55it was for me
41:57as if he had fallen
42:00and crashed but haven't you got a spare room or a spare house here where he could have stayed
42:06yeah but no yes we have guest units but whenever kids come here they always want to stay with me
42:11i thought man he's really glutton for punishment here
42:16and the jacksons knew it was a problem they knew
42:18based on what they had already went through with michael with jordan chandler
42:23that somebody is going to say something about this
42:27this is going to be a media talking point
42:34the documentary was pretty shocking
42:38i was worried that michael was using gavin to normalize his lifestyle
42:45sleeping with children he's not related to
42:49that's sort of the narcissist at work
42:51they always just want to stay they say can i stay with you tonight
42:54i go if it's okay with your parents yes you can
42:57but whatever he was trying to do with martin beshear
43:00had backfired
43:01and it's
43:04michael jackson's brand
43:07that's at stake here
43:09that's big
43:10pop star michael jackson drops one bombshell
43:13after another about his bizarre behavior
43:16millions of people were watching
43:17as jackson revealed he allows
43:20young children to sleep in his bed
43:22what kind of loony would a do it and b go on national tv and admit it
43:27michael made tragic horrific mistakes
43:30what are you doing alone
43:33with a kid in your bed even if it's not physical or sexual
43:37the next day i decided i had to make a statement
43:40those of us who were once in michael's circle or still are
43:43enough of the defense
43:44we have got to save this man from self-destructing
43:47we went into red alert
43:49all hands on deck
43:51what can we do from a public relations standpoint
43:53to help michael
43:55every time we trust the media to do something for us
43:58they turn around and they do us wrong
44:00they feel even burned by the media
44:01they feel very burned by the media
44:03it caused a worldwide commotion
44:0727 million people watched that show
44:11gavin arvito put his head to his left on michael's right shoulder
44:16michael told me
44:18that when he the kid did that
44:21he was furious
44:23he's putting his head on my shoulder
44:25what is going on here
44:28this is going to be terrible
44:30michael knew it right away
44:32did bashear tell him to do that
44:34well that's the word that i got
44:37do i know that for a fact
44:39no i do not
44:41you had to know
44:42that martin bashear
44:44was going to be martin bashear
44:46and martin bashear bullshit
44:48was going to come out with it
44:49and anything that was reasonable
44:52and not provocative
44:54was going to be left on the editing room floor
44:56now michael jackson is fighting back
44:58releasing some of the interview with the british journalist
45:00as it turns out
45:01michael's personal videographer
45:04was videotaping martin bashear
45:06and we started going to media outlets with that footage
45:09here's some of what you didn't see
45:11your relationship with your children is spectacular
45:16and in fact it almost makes me weep when i see you with them
45:20because your interaction with them
45:22is just so natural
45:24so loving
45:24so caring
45:27well that's not how it quite came out on television is it
45:30it was quite a production
45:31you got to give the devil his due
45:33martin bashear did an incredible job
45:36we're at defcom
45:3812 000
45:39and we don't know what the possible kickback blowback from this event is going to be
45:44oh we're on camera
45:46we don't know this family very well
45:49we don't know what their motivations are
45:50i thought we want to keep them as far away from tabloids and people with checks as possible
45:57what are some of the things people say about michael
46:00that are true or aren't true
46:04don't believe what they say
46:05oh
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