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00:02Welcome to Arland in Music.
00:05Join me, Denise Chayla, as we journey around our amazing island of Arland with some of our most incredible songwriters
00:11and storytellers.
00:16Wallace Byrd is one of Arland's most compelling singer-songwriters.
00:21She's on a hot streak of incredible albums that shows no signs of letting up.
00:25I sat with Wallace in Kells Courthouse Arts Centre in County Meath as she shared brand new songs from what
00:31will be her ninth studio album.
00:41Let me buy you flowers, let me buy you peace, let me buy you a dream.
01:06Let me build a future for you and me.
01:12Fill the room with incense, watermelon sweets.
01:20And we can talk about our solution until everybody's free.
01:28Let me buy you flowers, let me buy you peace, let me buy you a dream.
02:01Let me buy you a candle, so everyone can see.
02:08Let me buy you a dream.
02:09Your money and your power, your intellect, will it do you see?
02:16You burn the boats and burn the flowers, what is this world that I am living in?
02:22Where she can barely spare it, but she's gonna share it and you know that's real humanity.
02:30Oh, well let me burn the panda, let me buy you a candle, and let me buy you a piece.
02:37Congregate, change, not religious hate and you know exactly what I mean.
02:43Oh, let me buy your flowers, let me buy you peace.
02:52Let me buy you a dream.
03:12Love is back to peace, sex, death, healing.
03:16Love is back to peace, sex, death, healing.
03:19Yeah, till everybody's free, till everybody's free.
03:25We won't stop till everybody's free.
03:29No, we won't stop till everybody's free.
03:32No, we won't stop till everybody's free.
03:37Love is back to peace, sex, death, healing.
03:41Love is back to peace, sex, death, healing.
03:45Love is back to peace, sex, death, healing.
03:48There you go. Good stuff.
03:52you know love respect peace sex death healing and that's a song that's coming off of your next
03:58album yeah yeah how did that song come to be born what is that song i just kept thinking about
04:06the classics like a song that came into my mind that i i just wish that i wrote is uh
04:15one day i'll
04:16fly away it just gives me such inner peace um because there's insane turmoil in in the world
04:25and uh it just seems to be getting more intense and more problematic and um i kept singing one day
04:35i'll fly away to myself and then this voice which is different to my normal voice you burn the books
04:42burn the flowers you know this kind of this it's a different inflection that i went in and i just
04:48followed it i have to be honest i just followed it um but the lyrics are about uh like i
04:55live in
04:55germany and um the history of germany is in some ways uh coming back to haunt them and it's a
05:03hard
05:04time to be there as an immigrant um so i'm singing the song for immigrants and
05:10movement of uh people to come together as communities which is really important for me
05:16right now community is like is is more important than anything and the music is secondary to that
05:22for me actually feels like your heart is really burning in the song and i guess in general you know
05:30like um my heart is burning for now i'm going to sound real trite but i can't help but feel
05:36it um
05:39is acceptance that we need peace together uh acceptance that um we've lost empathy as a race
05:47and it's through multiple different things there is empathy to be found and there's beauty and there's
05:52good in the people for sure um and for me when i was writing this record i just kept seeing
05:59the the
06:01the harshness of life and just being like i just want to write about being the devil and
06:06and then i i tried that i walked down that road and then i just realized look that's not my
06:10path
06:10but you sound like an advocate for softness you sound like yeah you're in your burning heart there's a
06:16there's a joy about like driving us towards finding peace like what does what is what does that peace
06:22look like when you when you look at your life when you try to stitch the fabric together um it
06:27looks
06:28like a lot of shouting at televisions um which is fine and it looks like a lot of long long
06:35conversations
06:36that you don't want to be having um where in the end you'll still go out and have a meal
06:42together
06:42that's kind of what it looks like to me and romance in your daily life bit of crack yeah relax
06:49absolutely take the serious with a bit of fun i think i'm more similar to you than i've ever
06:55realized yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah i i feel like recently i've been writing in like my journal
07:02about whether or not romance can be a form of meditation like romance with the world so your last
07:08record was called visions of venus it was together with a classical quartet called spark and it's
07:15thousand years of female composers yeah um i wrote a couple of songs for it um they asked me would
07:22i feel
07:23comfortable writing some songs about it so i just chose really interesting people to write it about
07:27and um one of those people was uh a trans man born in cork in the late 1800s uh his
07:36name was dr james
07:37barry he was a surgeon surgeon general in the british army very very interesting person um a visionary
07:45he performed the first uh cesarean section that he he learned how to do from the the women healers in
07:51south africa and uh he went on to like eradicate typhoid and he changed the sanitation laws in in
08:00hospitals as we know it now you know so he was a he was very very important uh person in
08:07the field of
08:07medicine wow trans man he loved any type of healing yeah so that was his thing he was just like
08:14i'll do
08:14anything for the betterment of the world and the healing of people which i think that's for me what
08:20trans people represent for me yeah they just represent a mirror of of what it could be yeah
08:25a mirror of your true self yeah that's what multiplicity and and i love that it's underneath
08:30the banner of this like album called visions of venus yeah was it a deliberate allusion to the goddess
08:36of love or is that is there something else going on there no it's it is love it's it's love
08:43represented
08:44in the in the feminine form and the subtlety and the the divine um but it's it's also about you
08:54know
08:54the siren the mother the muse um the importance of women in and music in the last 1000 years so
09:01it's
09:01not a small project it's a big project it's very challenging it's a lot of classical mixed with rock
09:07which some people be like oh my god i'm allergic but actually it's um it's very for me it's one
09:14of
09:14the more important things that i've ever done in my life
09:25thanks ma'am
09:31look at my hands look at my face i am a man that has worked as worked as worked as
09:36worked as worked
09:37as worked now do what i do do what i say i'll only tell you this once this was this
09:43was this
09:46i live by the knife and i die by the sword i have a power as strong as a god's
10:00i have seen flesh
10:03inside and out i have been flamed concealed and healed and revealed i am a man
10:27oh my god i'll be the i have been growing up so it's a grace that i am removing now
10:53that will evenarner i will say okay i miss i believe it in the end and i will say
10:53I'll stand up for you
10:53Give me a name, give me a job, and I'll work out, work out, work out, work out, work out,
10:59I'm a miracle.
11:00Shadows coming of age, ready to charge the earth, the earth, the earth, the earth, the earth, the earth, the
11:05earth, the earth, the earth.
11:06Oh, look at me now.
11:10Oh, tearing the page, carving from stone, the gift of rage.
11:19I have seen flesh inside and out.
11:28I have seen flesh inside and out.
11:36Cause only the strong can live this life.
11:42Only the strong can live this life.
11:49I have seen flesh inside and out.
11:56I have seen flesh inside and out.
11:59I have seen flesh inside and out.
12:24Only the strong can live this life.
12:30Only the strong can live this life.
12:38Only the strong can live this life.
12:39And live this life.
12:46Only the strong can live this life.
12:47Thank you so much for sharing your music with us.
12:54No bother.
12:55It's been amazing to watch you perform and to watch you sing.
12:58So Dr. James Barry was off of your last record and your next record is going to be out this
13:06year.
13:07Yeah, yeah, kind of toying with titles.
13:09Yeah.
13:10One of them is I can see your house from here.
13:12The other one is love, respect, peace, sex, death, healing.
13:15Which one are you leaning towards?
13:16I don't know now.
13:19I'll just give it an enormously long double title, I guess, I don't know.
13:23But it's nice to have the two of them side by side.
13:25I'll figure it out.
13:26Yeah, it's about grieving is the price you pay for love.
13:33Grieving is important, hilarious, tragic and a bit of crack.
13:38And if you can't laugh, you'll never stop crying.
13:40So that's kind of what it's about, you know.
13:41It actually really feels like you're jumping at another chance.
13:44Yeah, I have to enlighten myself in some way.
13:48And a lot of that actually comes from being open to the other side,
13:54which is what I think art is.
13:56It's a channel, it's a portal.
13:58I lost a very, very dear friend, a very, very dear friend, Kevin Ryan, like 14 months ago.
14:07And the whole process of making the record was to see the grieving process
14:14compounded with the genocide in Gaza and living in Germany and not being able to talk about it.
14:21It was a lot.
14:22It was a lot going on.
14:23And all I could do is cry for the whole record and find the peace within of the pain that
14:30it was and is.
14:31And you're actually touching something what is God like for me was this process of the record.
14:41So I'll take it.
14:42Yeah, that's what it feels like to me.
14:44I'm trying to, I suppose I should explain like grieving is a beautiful thing and a lot of passion comes
14:49out of it.
14:50So it's not like dreary and sad, but it's, it's in there, you know, I'll play a song that I
14:56wrote about Kevin, the pal that died.
14:58Um, I wrote it like two months after, after he was gone.
15:18My tears are for you, I spend them with pride.
15:25Everyone adored you, no, you were not mine.
15:34But we share a pain like nothing before.
15:43I thought we had more time.
15:48I thought we had more time.
15:56And so it turns the wheel.
16:01And so spins the clay.
16:05And so it continues night into day.
16:11I cannot agree what I know to be true.
16:22Life goes on, but it was better with you.
16:30Life goes on, but it was better with you.
16:40Life goes on, but it was better with you.
16:42Yeah, life, it continues.
16:45And it doesn't care how much I am craving the touch of your hair.
16:57Your voice in my ear, your boat's at my door.
17:06I thought we had more time.
17:11I
17:13Thought we had
17:16Turns the wheel
17:21And so spins the clay
17:25And so it
17:27continues night in today. I
17:34Cannot agree
17:36Well, I know to be true
17:42I goes on
17:46But it was better with you
17:51Life goes on
17:54But it was better with you
18:01So walks the mule
18:04And so barks the dog
18:09The babbies need feeding
18:14The fire needs the fuel
18:17So you caught a sword
18:22For a whole winter's long
18:26I thought we had
18:30More time
18:32I thought we had
18:35More time
18:38I thought we had
18:41More time
18:44I thought we had
18:44And so turns the wheel
18:47And so spins the clay
18:52And so it continues
18:57Night into day
19:01I cannot agree
19:05What I know to be true
19:09Life goes on
19:13Life goes on
19:22Thought it was better with you
19:26Life goes on
19:27Life goes on
19:30Thought it was better with you
19:35Life goes on
19:36Life goes on
19:37Life goes on
19:38Thought it was better with you
19:39that's it and so it is and so it's so yeah you know um thanks for sharing this song about
19:47your
19:47friend with us yeah um because kevin sounds like he was wonderful in in in life and in your memories
19:53and yeah thank you yeah no um even though you haven't sang your entire catalog we've had songs
20:00about love and songs about death and like there's healing interlocking them all um i do
20:08feel like this song about kevin is going to be played at funerals forever and i do know that
20:13you have music that's going to be played at weddings and celebrations forever and i'm always
20:18attracted to people who talk about home in any kind of way you know i'm constantly thinking about that
20:24you performed this song um very recently with a choir and i would love to hear from you what
20:35this song mean to you um it's a love letter to my parents to say thanks for raising me and
20:43thanks
20:43for being open uh it's a love letter to my partner to say we made it we won and um
20:50the version that
20:51uh we did together with the lineup choir was um extra special because um the song's a cappella
20:58and they said what are the chords and i said the chords are your own you can do whatever you
21:01want
21:01with it and they really really came up with a beautiful very tender arrangement um so yeah we
21:08recorded it together out in the open which was even nicer because there's no reflection it's just dry
21:13and lovely yeah well wallace it's always good to see you and thank you for coming and thank you for
21:19like having a chat a pleasure and i love it thanks very much thanks very much you're welcome you're
21:26so are you and we're gonna wrap up with wallace bird singing home with the lineup choir
21:34all i ever wanted was to settle down and marry laugh and love and hopefully have a child
21:45have our families around us friendships that never die well we can try we can try we can try
21:56oh we can try we can try we can try there are times in life so good that looked me
22:08in the eye
22:08but i was busy so pass me by but today i gotta take it for a long journey home to
22:22you and i
22:26oh home to you and i i'm not good for you right now i'm good for you forever there's so
22:41much to you
22:45my blind dedication is no surprise i was right that very first day
22:58when you rolled into the kitchen with a basket bearing chicken and a look of mischief pouring from your eyes
23:08and over drinks and over drinks and songs and dad jokes i kept touching your hands for your attention
23:16and i kissed you in my mind
23:21the sun was rolling upwards and you were going home my head stayed drunk on you for such a long
23:33time
23:35so i moved to this country where you reside so we can try we can try we can try we
23:47can try
23:48we can try we can try we can try
23:54dear mother god in heaven
23:59you're one hell of a woman
24:02i believe that it's for something till i die
24:08if you put two and two together and forget about the mats and give us three or four or five
24:22well we can try we can try we can try
24:29goodbye
24:29bye
24:29bye
24:29bye
24:30bye
24:30bye
24:30bye
24:30bye
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