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00:14Dziś na 23rd April 2022
00:18Mairet Gwyn i widzisz
00:20Europe Today
00:21Daily Dose
00:22News & Analysis
00:24Broadcast live here
00:25from Brussels
00:26Coming up on today's show
00:28The EU
00:29is in the program
00:29of unblocking the 90 billion euro loan to Ukraine
00:33and fresh sanctions against Russia
00:35after signals Hungary and Slovakia
00:38have dropped their opposition
00:39If neither country raises objections
00:42today, a months long political
00:44standoff will come to an end
00:46We'll have the details
00:47And the European Commission has urged
00:50EU governments to introduce
00:51energy vouchers, social tariffs
00:54and VAT cuts to cushion
00:56the impact of the energy crisis
00:57triggered by the Iran war
00:59But it stopped short of introducing
01:01a windfall tax on oil and gas companies
01:04We speak to the energy commissioner
01:06Dan Jorgensen
01:07And in other news this morning
01:09Lebanon and Israel are set to enter
01:11a second round of talks in Washington
01:13with the Lebanese president saying
01:15Beirut is seeking to extend
01:17the 10-day ceasefire
01:18which expires on Sunday
01:20Meanwhile, a top Iranian negotiator
01:23has said the Strait of Hormuz
01:25cannot open due to
01:27blatant violations of the ceasefire
01:29by the US
01:30But first this morning
01:32The EU is expected to unlock
01:34a crucial loan to Ukraine
01:36and sanctions on Russia later today
01:38amid indications Russian crude
01:41is flowing again through the Drushva pipeline
01:43It would come conveniently
01:45just before EU leaders gather
01:47in Cyprus tonight ahead of an informal summit tomorrow
01:50For more, our Ukraine correspondent
01:52Sasha Vakulina joins me on set
01:54Good morning
01:54How has Kyiv reacted to the news
01:57of the unblocking of this loan?
01:59Kyiv is really excited
02:01to get this loan
02:03after it was agreed in December marriage
02:05because for Ukraine
02:06this is really important and crucial
02:08as you said, financial lifetime
02:11for the country to cover
02:12Ukraine's financial needs this year
02:15and also next year
02:16with two thirds of those 90 billion loan
02:18going into Ukraine
02:19defense needs that it desperately needs
02:22as soon as possible
02:22Now, Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelenskyy
02:24reacted to it saying
02:26the implementation of our agreement
02:28with the European Union
02:29to unblock the 90 billion support package
02:32for Ukraine over two years
02:33is now effectively underway
02:35as well as new sanctions package
02:36against Russia over this war
02:39The unblocking is the right signal
02:41under the current circumstances
02:43Now, at the EU-Ukraine business summit
02:47that is taking place in Brussels these days
02:49I saw Ukrainian officials
02:50literally congratulating each other
02:52on the unblocking of this loan
02:54And is there hope also, Sasha
02:56that with a government change
02:57about to happen in Hungary
02:58that this could also mean progress
03:00on Ukraine's bid to join the EU?
03:03Absolutely, because this veto
03:05by Viktor Orban
03:06has nothing to do
03:06with the Druzhba pipeline
03:07this is something
03:08that he's been holding onto
03:09from way before then
03:11and yes indeed
03:12nowadays Kyiv and Brussels
03:14both hoping that
03:14this is the opportunity
03:16to open those clusters
03:18and the EU commissioner
03:19for enlargement, Marta Kos
03:21also mentioned
03:21that she expects
03:22the first cluster
03:23to finally open
03:24the moment
03:25the new government
03:26the change of the government
03:27in Hungary is complete
03:28and this should be around May
03:29Let's take a listen
03:30to what she had to say
03:31Another good news
03:33is that we hope
03:34that with the change
03:35of the government
03:36in Hungary
03:36we will soon be able
03:38able to open
03:40all the clusters formally
03:43the European Commission
03:45we, my team
03:46is ready
03:47and we hope
03:47that the member states
03:48and the council
03:50will act
03:51swiftly
03:52Taras Kachka
03:54Ukraine's deputy
03:54prime minister
03:55who is in charge of
03:55Ukraine's European integration
03:57speaking right next
03:59to Marta Kos
04:00also gave
04:01some sneak peek
04:02regarding the timeline
04:03on how this process
04:05can proceed
04:06I hope
04:07that this year
04:08we will hear
04:09that certain chapters
04:10can be
04:10can be treated
04:11as closed
04:12that also
04:14brings the possibility
04:15next year
04:16to talk about
04:17broad integration
04:18into the internal market
04:20maybe
04:21who knows
04:22that things
04:23can be really fast
04:24and next year
04:25we will close
04:26all chapters
04:26and then we can talk
04:28about the treaty
04:29of accession
04:29while those clusters
04:30have been vetoed
04:31and blocked
04:31Ukraine and Brussels
04:32both launched technical works
04:33to make sure
04:34that as much preparedness
04:35is there
04:36this is why
04:37of course
04:37the timeline
04:37that we heard there
04:38is quite fast
04:39although not as fast
04:40as January 2027
04:42as Zelenskyy once hinted
04:44Sasha
04:44thank you so much
04:45for that update
04:46now moving on
04:47as the situation
04:48in the Strait of Hormuz
04:50remains volatile
04:51Trump has continued
04:53to lash out
04:53at his NATO allies
04:54for not coming
04:55to his aid
04:56in the war in Iran
04:57our correspondent
04:58Shona Murray
04:59spoke with former
05:00NATO Secretary-General
05:01Anders Ford Rasmussen
05:03and started by asking him
05:05about the tensions ongoing
05:06amongst Trump
05:07and his allies
05:08I consider it
05:10the worst challenge
05:13for NATO
05:14during the history
05:15of a very successful alliance
05:19so I think
05:20we in Europe
05:21should conclude
05:23we have to be able
05:25to stand
05:26on our own feet
05:29so
05:29we should
05:31strengthen
05:31our defence
05:32build
05:33on a coalition
05:34of the willing
05:35that could
05:36build a strong
05:38European pillar
05:39within NATO
05:40we need
05:41a more European
05:42NATO
05:42you're obviously
05:43the former Prime Minister
05:44of Denmark
05:45so you're European
05:46where do you stand then
05:47on the issue
05:47of European preference
05:48because the Europeans
05:49are going to be spending
05:50a colossal amount of money
05:52on defence now
05:53we should purchase weapons
05:55and ammunition
05:55where it is
05:57right now
05:58because time
05:59is of the essence
06:00we should reduce
06:01our dependency
06:03on foreign actors
06:05like the United States
06:06but also other countries
06:07so we should not be naive
06:09so in certain cases
06:11I would give preference
06:13to European weapons
06:15and ammunition
06:16did you ever think
06:17you'd see the day
06:18where you're saying
06:19that you have to
06:21that NATO should
06:22and Europe should
06:23move away from the United States
06:24in such a way
06:25that we need to be careful
06:27not to be naive
06:28for me
06:29this has been a very painful
06:32process
06:32since childhood
06:33I have admired
06:34the United States
06:35I saw the United States
06:37as a natural leader
06:39of the free world
06:40as Prime Minister of Denmark
06:41I worked closely
06:42with the then
06:43President George W. Bush
06:45for me
06:46it's been painful
06:47to conclude
06:48that we have to reduce
06:51our dependence
06:52on the United States
06:54but that is
06:56the state of affairs
06:57today
06:58how was it then
06:59when you were
07:00watching what was happening
07:02with Greenland
07:03with the President
07:04of the United States
07:04saying they need to take Greenland
07:06with the denigration
07:07of the sacrifices
07:09made by Danish troops
07:10in Afghanistan
07:11yeah but it was unheard
07:14that the leader
07:16of the biggest ally
07:17within a collective
07:18defence organisation
07:20threatens another ally
07:22with the aim
07:23to grasp land
07:25by force
07:26had that happened
07:27it would be the end
07:29of NATO
07:30it doesn't make sense
07:31to have a collective
07:32defence organisation
07:33where the biggest ally
07:35threatens another ally
07:38fortunately
07:39President Trump
07:41backed off
07:41that threat
07:43and now
07:43we have embarked
07:44on a more
07:46traditional
07:46diplomatic path
07:47the situation
07:48in the Strait of Ormos
07:49is changing every hour
07:50and the ceasefire
07:52looks like
07:52it may be extended
07:53but there's no changes
07:54to actually reopening
07:55the Strait
07:56what do you think
07:57needs to be done now?
07:58I think actually
07:59Europe
08:00should use
08:01this situation
08:02as a leverage
08:04to change
08:05the relationship
08:06between Europe
08:07and the United States
08:09we should speak
08:11to President Trump
08:12the same way
08:13as he speaks
08:14to us
08:15and that's why
08:17my proposal
08:18would be
08:19for Europe
08:20to correct
08:21the mistake
08:23they made
08:23when they declared
08:25that this war
08:25is not
08:26our war
08:28and
08:30try to get
08:31the best
08:32out of this
08:33for Europe
08:33Ok, just a final question
08:34then, who do you propose
08:36should speak to Donald Trump
08:37in the way
08:38he speaks to us?
08:40Well
08:40I would leave it
08:42to the political leaders
08:43to decide
08:44we have
08:44in the past
08:46we have seen
08:46European delegations
08:48meet up
08:50in the White House
08:52my point
08:53is just this
08:55Trump
08:55only
08:56respects
08:57a firm
08:58stance
08:59and that's why
09:02I say
09:03time for
09:03flattering
09:04is over
09:07Shona Murray
09:08speaking to Anders Rasmussen
09:09there
09:10now we're staying
09:10with Europe's security
09:11and defence
09:12Latvia is a country
09:14that sits on
09:14NATO's eastern flank
09:16and is ramping up
09:17its defence efforts
09:19joining me
09:20in the studio now
09:21is Latvia's defence minister
09:22Andris Sprutz
09:23great to have you
09:24on the programme
09:25thank you for being here
09:26I want to pick up
09:27on what Anders Rasmussen
09:28said there
09:29about the big
09:30historic challenge
09:31he said facing
09:32NATO
09:32the US
09:34President Donald Trump
09:35is threatening
09:36an US exit
09:37is he pushing
09:38the alliance
09:39to the brink?
09:41On practical
09:41military level
09:42we had excellent
09:43relationship
09:45there is
09:46presence of US
09:47troops in Europe
09:48also in the
09:49Baltic countries
09:49in Latvia and we
09:51continuously
09:51actively cooperate
09:52so I see that
09:54alliance
09:55remains strong
09:56that it is
09:57one for all
09:57for one
09:58it is beneficial
09:59for all member states
10:00including United States
10:02of course
10:02sometimes we have
10:03some disputes
10:04sometimes we have
10:05some statements
10:06but I would focus
10:07mostly on practical
10:08cooperation
10:08strategic cooperation
10:09we see that
10:10cooperation continues
10:12as it was
10:12even though yes
10:13sometimes we have
10:14some questions
10:15and some disputes
10:15to solve.
10:16but does that
10:17rhetoric from
10:18Trump sometimes
10:18make you doubt
10:20that the US would
10:21come to Latvia
10:22to Europe state
10:23if needed
10:23under article 5?
10:24No, my confidence
10:27is in United States
10:28in transatlantic
10:29relationship
10:30as I said
10:31we've seen this
10:32cooperation developing
10:33and expanding
10:34and here I don't
10:36have any doubts
10:36that United States
10:37would come to help
10:38so even though
10:39sometimes you might have
10:40some discussions.
10:41very good
10:42we know there's another
10:43conflict hotspot
10:45in the Middle East
10:46do you see
10:48or fear
10:48that that conflict
10:50is not only
10:51diverting attention
10:52from Ukraine and Europe
10:53but that also there are
10:54weapons, US made
10:55weapons destined
10:56for Europe being
10:56diverted there?
10:58It just once more
10:59demonstrates
11:00the world is interconnected
11:01and also the
11:03armament supplies
11:04it is quite in shortage
11:06in these uncertainty times
11:07in these times of
11:08of insecurity
11:09so that's why once more
11:11it's just a strong reminder
11:12that we need to build up
11:14our own defences
11:15our own defence industry
11:17in Europe
11:17we must step up
11:18in the meantime yes
11:19we have to deal with
11:20some of the potential shortages
11:22but as I said
11:22I would believe
11:23this is not a game changer
11:25in terms of the
11:26other defence capabilities
11:27But are you seeing
11:28shortages in Europe
11:30due to the war
11:30in Iran?
11:32We might see
11:32some shortages
11:33and some countries
11:34have admitted it
11:36that actually
11:36there are some delays
11:38but this is delayed
11:40because of the lack
11:42of defence industry
11:43in general
11:44so we see the shortage
11:45in general
11:46so that's why once more
11:47we have to develop
11:48the industrial base
11:50technological base
11:51also focusing on
11:52new technologies
11:53I'll get to that
11:54very shortly
11:54but briefly
11:55do you fear that the war
11:56in Iran could be emboldening
11:57President Putin?
11:59Well, of course
12:01we must take into account
12:03that war is
12:04in a sense
12:04uncertain
12:05that there are
12:07quite a number
12:08of those flashpoints
12:08but it is also
12:10a reminder
12:10that the United States
12:12is ready to act
12:12and here we should
12:14cooperate actively
12:15with the United States
12:15to solve the problems
12:17of the issue
12:17also in Hormuz
12:18trades together
12:19and that's what also
12:20Latvia has indicated
12:21we're seeing today
12:22that the 90 billion loan
12:24from the EU to Ukraine
12:25will probably be unlocked
12:27how crucial is this?
12:29It is crucial
12:30it is crucial
12:30and it's good
12:31that we see progress
12:33in this regard
12:34it is crucial to support
12:35Ukraine
12:35but it's not just about
12:3790 billion loan
12:38it's about bilateral supports
12:40what Latvia is doing
12:410.25% from our GDP
12:42goes to Ukraine
12:43it's also about EU membership
12:45meeting that moment
12:47as Latvia is doing
12:48do you think
12:49all European countries
12:49are doing enough?
12:51I would hope that
12:53and I would expect
12:55that there could be
12:56even more help
12:56as I said
12:57also on bilateral level
12:59first of all
12:59on a multilateral level
13:00not to block
13:01anything
13:02that goes into
13:03the direction of Ukraine
13:03because Ukraine
13:04fights our war as well
13:05Ukraine defends
13:06our values and interests
13:07indeed
13:08thank you so much
13:09for joining us
13:09we hope to have you
13:11back here on set
13:12again in the future
13:14now moving on
13:16now
13:17because
13:17you might be wondering
13:18what the potential
13:21shortage
13:21in jet fuel
13:23means for your
13:24travel plans
13:26Jakob Yanis
13:27has taken a look
13:27and explains more
13:30If you are planning
13:32a holiday this year
13:32you might want to check
13:33your bank balance
13:34and your flight status
13:35before you park
13:36Europeans are entering
13:38what is shaping up
13:39to be a surcharge
13:40summer
13:40and while the European
13:41Commission tones down
13:42warning from energy
13:43experts
13:44the airlines are telling
13:45a different story
13:46SAS Scandinavian airlines
13:49have cancelled
13:49about a thousand
13:50departures
13:51Lufthansa has followed
13:52suit by axing
13:53twenty thousand
13:54routes
13:55and Air France
13:56KLM is slapping
13:57a one hundred euro
13:58surcharge
13:59on long distance
14:00tickets
14:01so what causes
14:02this turbulence
14:05EU refineries account
14:06for roughly seventy
14:07percent of the blocks
14:08jet fuel
14:09with the rest usually
14:10imported from the Middle East
14:12however
14:12with the Strait of Hormuz
14:14closed
14:14the disruption
14:15to global oil
14:16transit
14:17drove jet fuel prices
14:18to twice their previous
14:19levels
14:20and last week
14:21the International Energy
14:22Agency warned
14:23Europe has roughly
14:24six weeks of supply
14:26left
14:26resulting in
14:28possible flight
14:29cancellations
14:29the European Commission
14:31argues that
14:32flight cancellations
14:33are not related
14:34to shortages
14:34but rather
14:36to the airlines
14:36own lack of
14:37profitability
14:38however
14:39to be on a safe
14:40side
14:40it launched
14:41Accelerate EU
14:42a plan to coordinate
14:43emergency fuel supplies
14:45and ensure
14:46member states
14:46start sharing
14:47what's left
14:48in their tanks
14:49the EU is also
14:50eyeing new imports
14:51from the United States
14:53however
14:54US jet fuel
14:55follows slightly
14:56different
14:56chemical standards
14:57the European Commission
14:59is trying to keep
15:00Europeans calm
15:01but the advice
15:02from the EU transport
15:03ministers
15:03who got it
15:04ahead of this week's
15:05summit in Cyprus
15:06is a bit of a climb
15:07they are suggesting
15:08Europeans neutralize demand
15:10by switching to
15:11public transport
15:12and electric bikes
15:13and your reporter
15:14believes it is a
15:15noble idea
15:16but you cannot exactly
15:17ride an e-bike
15:18from Brussels to Ibiza
15:19or can you?
15:21so the energy crisis debate
15:22will likely be held
15:23today and tomorrow
15:24during an informal
15:25summit of EU leaders
15:27in Cyprus
15:27I just wonder
15:29how they plan
15:30to get there
15:36now
15:36after two months
15:37of war in Iran
15:38Europe is feeling
15:39the shock
15:40energy prices
15:41continue to soar
15:42but the European Commission
15:43is stepping in
15:44with emergency
15:45energy vouchers
15:46and a new energy
15:47watchdog
15:48for the details
15:49I'm joined in the studio
15:50by our correspondent
15:51Angela Skujins
15:52great to have you Angela
15:53you spoke to the
15:54Energy Commissioner
15:55yesterday
15:56tell us more
15:57about the measures
15:58that he outlined
15:59Good morning Muddard
16:00so there's no ambiguity
16:01regarding the scale
16:02of the problem
16:03the European Commission
16:04has stated
16:05that over the two months
16:06that this conflict
16:07has raged on
16:08in the Middle East
16:09it has cost Europeans
16:10an extra
16:1124 billion euros
16:13this amounts to
16:13an eye-watering
16:145 million euros
16:16per day
16:17in response to this
16:18the European Commission
16:19came out on Wednesday
16:20with a suite of measures
16:21aimed to support
16:22Europeans
16:23at the diesel pump
16:24as well as
16:25at the bank
16:26this includes
16:27a new observatory
16:28to be set up
16:29to monitor how
16:30energy is dispersed
16:31within the EU
16:32as well as
16:33energy vouchers
16:34for people to buy
16:35more energy efficient
16:36heat pumps
16:37tax incentives
16:38for people to also
16:39buy solar panels
16:41however critics
16:42have blasted this
16:44stating that it
16:45doesn't really have
16:45the financial teeth
16:46to support Europeans
16:47most vulnerable
16:49it also included
16:50no mention of that
16:51one day working
16:52from home policy
16:53as well as
16:54taxing windfall profits
16:56Euronews did ask
16:58the European Commissioner
16:59for Energy
17:00Dan Jorgensen
17:01about this
17:02he stated that
17:02it's incumbent on
17:03national governments
17:04to establish
17:05those windfall
17:06tax profits
17:08however he did warn
17:09that Europeans
17:10should expect
17:11more pain
17:12even in a best
17:13case scenario
17:14I do have to be
17:15quite blunt and
17:16say that
17:17we are looking into
17:19some very difficult
17:19months and even
17:20years because
17:21even if there's a
17:22piece tomorrow
17:23to rebuild the gas
17:25infrastructure for
17:26instance in Qatar
17:27will take maybe
17:28years so prices
17:29will not stabilize
17:30at the level they
17:31were before this
17:32crisis
17:33Angela you also had
17:34the opportunity to
17:34ask the Commissioner
17:35about the situation
17:36in Ukraine after
17:38persistent attacks
17:38on its energy sites
17:40yes of course
17:41while we had him
17:41we thought we would
17:42ask about the
17:43Druzhba oil pipeline
17:45too there's that
17:4690 billion euro loan
17:48for Ukraine attached
17:49to this major
17:50development he stated
17:51that it's imperative
17:52Ukraine gets this
17:54cash we know that
17:55two-thirds of this
17:56will be used to
17:57continue repelling
17:58Russian aggression
17:58while one-third will
18:00be used to prop up
18:01the budget and
18:02hopefully make some
18:03of make some repairs
18:04to that pummeled
18:05energy infrastructure
18:07working with Ukraine
18:09on on on helping
18:10to rebuild the
18:11energy sector is
18:13quite the
18:14heartbreaking work
18:15because the
18:16Russians are
18:17brutally bombing
18:19the energy
18:19infrastructure of
18:20Ukraine they've
18:21done so through the
18:22very cold winter
18:24people have been
18:25freezing people have
18:26been without
18:26electricity and
18:28obviously it's an
18:29expensive endeavor
18:30to rebuild and
18:32and we are very
18:34eager to help as
18:35much as we can as
18:35fast as we can
18:36okay Angela thank you
18:38so much Angela
18:39Scudgens there
18:39speaking to the
18:40energy commissioner
18:41Dan Jorgensen
18:42but that brings this
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18:44today to an end
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