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00:02coming up a daring escape from a house of horrors a sister who saved 13 children that
00:10was my only chance at least if something happened to me at least I died trying the
00:17story of this family shocked the nation and now tonight a brand new story three
00:23turpin siblings you have not seen before how did the system supposed to protect
00:28them send them into fear and anguish a second time the turpins a new house of horrors a Diane
00:36Sawyer special event begins now a security camera is rolling in a quiet suburban California neighborhood
00:54at the house across the street in the shadows someone quietly opens a window and slips out watch
01:02there a blurry figure stepping forward a small uncertain girl heading one way then she turns
01:11hesitates and starts to run clutching an old cell phone
01:25four years ago we told you the secrets inside that house that shocked the nation
01:31this is 911 do you have an emergency I just went away from home because I live in a family
01:38of 15
01:41okay can you hear me and we have abused parents did you hear that okay how did they abuse you
01:49okay
01:50the dispatcher asks for a sheriff's deputy to head to the location but stays on the
02:13phone with the girl I wanted to call y'all so y'all can help my sister we live in
02:17stills and sometimes
02:19I wake up and I can't breathe because how dirty the house when was the last time you had a
02:24bath
02:25almost a year ago does anybody at the house take any kind of medication oh I don't know what
02:30medication is the kind sheriff's deputy arrives his body camera is rolling we finally see that
02:37frightened girl she has a horrifying story but he believes her hi what's going on okay
02:50I just ran away from home okay and I live in a family of 15 okay my two little sisters
02:59right now
02:59are chained up they're chained up yes but I'm sorry if I talk too much okay I've never talked to
03:06anybody out there so I don't I've never been alone with the person so this is very hard for me
03:11to
03:11talk okay you have pictures of your sisters chained up yes but they're I don't have proof of
03:22everything but I have proof that my sisters are chained up so see
03:29this is the moment when 17 year old Jordan Turpin's courage will save 13 children
03:37and four years ago Jordan and her older sister Jennifer decided to go on camera with us
03:43Jordan remembering the terrifying night she escaped from the parents who inflicted brutal punishments for
03:49disobedience that was my only chance at least if something happened to me at least I died trying
03:56my whole body was shaking and when I was holding the phone I remember the phone was like I couldn't
04:06really dial 911 because I'm sorry yeah I was shaking in so I was trying like to to dial 911
04:19but I couldn't
04:22even get my my thumb to press the buttons because I was shaking so bad but um I was like
04:31trying to like
04:32calm down thank you so much um I was trying to like calm down so I could I could um
04:41to do it I don't know how
04:45you had the courage never having spoken to anyone like that I think it was like us coming so close
04:52to death so
04:53many times I wanted to help everyone her sister Jennifer the oldest Turpin sibling says they had to take a
05:01chance on something more and nothing's ever going to be that bad and nothing's going to be as bad as
05:0929 years in what the only
05:11word I know to call it is hell
05:15later we'll tell you more about Jennifer and Jordan Turpin over the years since these two women riveted
05:21America with their story but now tonight three more Turpin siblings are coming forward they have never
05:28spoken publicly before if you met these wide-eyed young people on the street you would never imagine
05:34the suffering in their past Julissa Turpin age 19 Julinda Turpin age 20 their brother James Turpin 24
05:43I'm just excited about life like everything and I love Jesus a lot and um I love creating mostly music
05:53and paintings I just see myself being an actress I love to go to the gym to dance to write
06:00poems I like being
06:01out I like talking to people playing pole and stuff like that when I meet somebody I try to act
06:07like
06:08I'm just like a normal average girl not a girl who suffered devastating abuse in one home and then
06:15impossibly faced it again when some of the siblings were sent to foster care where they were supposed to
06:21be safe to me it feels like why just like why do people get to have a family and we
06:29don't and like we
06:30have each other and that's the world you know but we still want a mom something good needs to come
06:37from this it has to and I can accept it not but their story tonight has to begin back in
06:43those lives
06:44they were living in that ordinary house with a horrible secret inside 13 children ages 2 to 29
06:51imprisoned by their biological mother and father who sometimes threw them across the room pushed them down
06:58the stairs beat them with sticks until they bled starved them and chained them to their beds that
07:05chained up little girl in the photo was jelissa i do think i really was dying i was 11 but
07:13i was 49 pounds
07:14i think we wouldn't even throw out food we would literally throw up stomach acid and water if we drink
07:20water like we literally were actually dying in there from starvation and she gave us those tiny little
07:28broth cubes and that would be our meal for the day that'd be like all we ate that day and
07:32or and
07:33a sprite or gatorade or something i've thrown up from my food and my mom made me eat it to
07:38vomit
07:40the house was filled with excrement decaying food layers of garbage covering every part of the floor
07:46the children not allowed to bathe caked in dirt no school not allowed outside forced to hide below the
07:54windows so neighbors couldn't see them and ask questions and their parents insisted god and the
07:59bible gave them permission to imprison these children to keep them from sinning and going to hell
08:05i remember i was always sad i was always sad and i was always trying so hard to like
08:10be as best as i could for them if that makes sense
08:17and yet there was a little miracle inside this hell somehow the children found ways to teach each
08:24other how to be human when their parents were away they could sneak little glimpses of television
08:29transfixed by music videos showing other kids outside happy singing with friends once when their
08:37parents were out julissa got a quick taste of sunshine a daring little trip out the window
08:43jordan one time helped me sneak out the window and we went running down the street
08:49and it was such a freeing moment and i could feel the cold wind and it smelled so good out
08:55there
08:55and we were both wearing purple sandals and you could hear the sandals echoing through the street
09:03and that is like one of my core memories like that was so free
09:10and they secretly absorbed every detail of tv shows like cops learning that police might help
09:17you if you had proof of a crime and called 9-1-1 in a different room of the house
09:22their brother james
09:23imagining an escape even though he was so severely emaciated he could barely walk i even like cut a
09:32square hole in the net of the window and they had like alarms on the windows and i was able
09:37to like
09:37disassemble the alarm i was having nightmares that um they were like killing us basically so it was
09:46like it was like really really bad and it was only getting worse something in me just kind of felt
09:52like
09:53i was gonna die soon which makes it even more astonishing that among those children was that girl
09:59whose terror was matched by towering courage jordan the sister you saw earlier the one who became their
10:06hope for freedom one night jordan just 17 years old new time was running out the children say their
10:14mother had entered a new and deadly phase three of the siblings already chained their beds their
10:20mother packing and yelling she was moving all the children to another state in the morning
10:25where they'd all be chained for good james was 15 julissa was 11 jolinda age 12. she was singled out
10:34by
10:34her mother's volcanic rage the last words she said to me was that i was the devil and she literally
10:41looked me in the eyes and she was yelling and she called me the devil and she said that she
10:45hated me i
10:46think that her plan was probably to um get a house to chain us all of us up and then
10:51just leave us like literally
10:53leave us there and like to die which brings us again to that video of the moment jordan is slipping
10:59out the window making her way to the street back in the house her terrified siblings are lying awake
11:05in the dark as the hours go by she was like i'm doing it tonight i'm doing it tonight i
11:10remember
11:11thinking we're all gonna die i remember jordan saying it's now or never and she was right she literally
11:16was right she did it just in time we were all gonna be chained to our bed i remember that
11:22i was so
11:23scared for her but i was also praying morning arrives an unfamiliar sound someone is knocking hard at the
11:34door we heard our knock on the door but then it all clicked in like our brain i think at
11:40the same moment
11:41yeah they were like jordan and we were like oh my goodness she did it coming up the parents who
11:48had
11:48been torturing their own children behind closed doors emerge you guys have kids in the house yes
11:56but later in this hour the harrowing story you have never heard before the brand new horror these
12:02children will face in the foster home where they were supposed to be protected
12:16again the ordinary house a christmas decoration hanging in the window now police knocking on the
12:23door after two minutes we see the stunned and anxious faces of those parents louise and david turpin hi hi
12:33sorry to bug you how you guys doing good we got a call um for a check the welfare here
12:39at your house
12:40so i thought for a check the welfare so just basically checking everybody make sure everybody's
12:46okay yeah why do you guys have kids in the house yes well we got a call that there was
12:51a young female
12:52walking around saying that she came from a house over here and we were able to find out that this
12:57was
12:57a house and we just wanted to check and make sure everybody was okay think that she came from here
13:01that's what she said from inside this house i think so otherwise we wouldn't be knocking on
13:06your door on sunday um i don't know did she say her name i don't know offhand but we just
13:11need to
13:11check and make sure everybody's okay the deputies move in they see that squalor the mountains of
13:17rotting garbage the excrement on the floor i'm sure it stunk in there too we were super skinny and super
13:24dirty and the children emaciated arms bruised hi sweetheart hi girls can i see your wrist yeah
13:39okay hi how old are you the bruises clearly caused by chains the deputies find the chains hastily hidden
13:47in a closet is this bedroom back here next police notice hidden behind boxes another door and another
13:56bedroom in it three boys one shackled to his bed with thick chains on his ankle he's been this way
14:03for weeks he was released only to go to the bathroom if he had the strength to make it another
14:09was james
14:10not in chains but starving almost too weak to stand on his own i was scared i didn't know what
14:17was
14:17happening they helped me get off my bed and then i remember they were like walking me to the couch
14:23ever since then i've been super grateful to cops and i just i love cops and i really appreciate what
14:30they do my partner here for a second i'm gonna check you out the parents are arrested back in the
14:36house
14:36the police notice a strange array of fast food containers crispy cream boxes pizza boxes a freezer
14:44stocked with food they learned that all that food was eaten only by the parents while they systematically
14:51starved their children there is a closet filled with brand new children's clothes while the actual
14:57children remain dressed in rags and filth and then they find photos which seem to show times when the
15:04children were used as props on rare occasions they were dressed up all alike and taken to places to
15:10be photographed like las vegas or disneyland forced to smile no one noticing the fear in their eyes
15:18if we weren't smiling enough if we didn't like look exactly how they wanted us to they were like
15:22very like frustrated with us they would like get angry with us we weren't used to the sun and it
15:29felt
15:29really bright it was like it was really hard to keep our eyes open and it wasn't even comfortable
15:34like standing up for too long because we were mostly like sitting or laying down
15:41after their arrest at the courthouse david and louise turpin show up the parents who chained their
15:47children now have chains around their waist their feet david turpin who worked as an aerospace
15:54engineer by day offers no explanation why he would come home and imprison his children
16:01louise turpin's lawyer argues that she has a mental illness and should get treatment
16:06she seems to believe that somehow she is still getting her children back she writes them things
16:12will be different in the future the way you eat and outside time and baths will be done more regularly
16:17and then in a postscript she says i promise there will be no chains at the house again
16:25but the district attorney mike estrin heard the defenses spared the parents nothing the riverside
16:31county district attorney's office filed criminal charges against david and louise turpin 12 counts
16:37torture six counts child abuse 12 counts of false imprisonment louise and david turpin plead guilty
16:44no explanation of their actions count one which is a violation of torture how do you plead to that
16:51charge sir and mrs turpin guilty david turpin breaks down then speaks i miss all of my children and i
17:03will be praying for them i'm sorry for everything i've done for my children i don't want anything to be
17:10sad or depressed because of what we'll do their sentence 25 years to life with the possibility of
17:17parole only after 25 years the children are taken to the police station and then a hospital where doctors
17:25and nurses weep at what they see the atrophied muscles julissa's arms so emaciated it's the size of
17:34a four-month-old baby the story of the hell they had lived written on their little bodies james so
17:41severely starved muscles wasted difficulty walking but somehow these traumatized children show everyone
17:50what it is to love life the simple joys of the sky the sun the grass there is this tiny
17:57little spot
17:57and there was a tree there and we were running around in circles in that tiny little spot because
18:04we could feel the fresh air and that moment i was like wow it was just like this is for
18:11real and even
18:12the joy of hospital food well the food was really good they had like i remember the yellow i remember
18:19i
18:19i used to love jello and um they had like burritos that were really good i actually had my 16th
18:31birthday
18:31in the hospital it was like really close to my birthday and then i got like a little train toy
18:37it
18:37was pretty cool the public is celebrating their freedom their second chance the county of riverside
18:46child protective services proudly accepts their duty of care to keep the six minor children safe at
18:53last in foster homes they select a placement agency called child net to find that loving foster family
19:03so how is it possible that julissa jolinda and james are in front of our cameras tonight
19:09with a whole new story to tell you how they say those two child service agencies
19:15sent them into a different kind of hell i was so naive and like young that i didn't really like
19:23notice it but i really did think that they loved me at first and um
19:29i mean something bad did happen the first night i was there
19:43just 11 days after their rescue the six youngest turpin children are on their way to foster care
19:49including julissa age 11 jolinda age 12 james 16. they are traumatized innocent no idea of what it is to
19:58have real parents or a real home their brave older sister jordan will join them later in that house
20:05and as you'll see play a pivotal role in their rescue once again but when the three young siblings
20:12arrive this is the foster family waiting for them the old genes marcelino his wife rosa and their daughter
20:18lenise who has children of her own i genuinely just wanted to be safe and i was like well feeling
20:25love would be really nice but like um yeah they just yeah once again this is the first time these
20:34siblings are telling their story publicly the first night in this new home 11 year old julissa comes out
20:41of her bedroom her new foster father marcelino is in the living room alone i went downstairs and i was
20:48asked them for something to eat and the mom wasn't um there it was just the dad there i was
20:54literally
20:5511 years old and it was my first night there he was like dang you're so sexy calm down
21:04and he was like sit down on the couch watch a movie with me and he was like kept like
21:09saying that
21:09like i look sexy and stuff and i literally was like nobody in the world's gonna believe me because
21:15i'm a child and it's just really easy to blame kids and stuff and it's really easy to like for
21:29people
21:29to take the adult side on things and also i just got there so i knew that like i knew
21:37how out of pocket
21:38it was i was didn't know very much but i didn't know that that was didn't feel right and i
21:44did feel
21:44very uncomfortable and it made me feel so unsafe in the home she says day after day he comments on
21:49her
21:50tiny child's body touches her tries to kiss her as she turns away she's scared confused i think i thought
21:58i was just going crazy i wanted a dad and i felt like it's really sad because those type of
22:04people always
22:04pray on people that need and like a dad and it's just really sad to me because it hurts to
22:13think
22:14that like there's so many little girls and even little boys out there that those things happen to
22:21she confides in her sister jolinda and i remember sleeping was scary that scared me
22:28i remember that a lot of the nights we wouldn't sleep because we thought he was going to come in
22:32the
22:32room and there was actually a time when he tried to put his hands um
22:42yeah but then one night he actually like grabbed my face and forced a kiss on my mouth
22:48and i didn't know how to react and i was just like i was really scared i really did like
22:57put it on
22:57myself though i didn't say anything when he would touch my butt i just want to add he knew i
23:04know he
23:04did know i really felt that god was mad at me for that and i just really internalized a lot
23:12of that and
23:13i thought it was my fault but i just wanted to say i want to say to all the people
23:18even no matter what it is
23:30ultimately marcelina olguin will plead guilty to seven counts of lewd acts against a child he will be
23:36registered as a lifetime convicted sex offender and the children say it was not just the father
23:42who incited fear but the whole olguin family took part in a multiplex of psychological tortures
23:49the children said they were trying to grasp why this was happening to them people say if you're born
23:54in a house that's on fire you think the whole world's on fire and that's the way it was for
23:58me every
23:59night they would like drink and then they would like just get really like mean and like aggressive
24:06towards us they just made me
24:12hate myself and they would encourage me to like kill myself allegations from a civil suit list the
24:19details the children say the olguin threatened to put their fingers in electrical sockets some were
24:25hit with belts their hair pulled they were forced to sit in a circle and relive traumatic details
24:31about what their biological parents did to them and they say the olguins told them they would never be
24:37loved that they were worthless the olguins always told us you're never going to find a better place
24:43in this and they literally told us nobody wants you which raises this question where was childnet
24:52that company paid by the county to place these kids in a safe home and where were the riverside
24:58county social workers who had a duty to protect these children the turpin say when they tried to
25:03raise complaints to the social workers about emotional abuse they were not taken seriously we
25:10were gaslighted we were literally they thought that we were just like traumatized traumatized they thought
25:16like oh they're just traumatized they'll get over it i was saying that i it was like i don't think
25:21it's a good place for me and they were like oh you'll be fine you're just being nervous julissa
25:27says she did not tell the social workers about the father of the house and the touching she was too
25:32paralyzed by confusion and the fear it might get worse and the children say the olguins were always
25:39listening i don't understand why a worker thinks that you're going to feel safe to answer questions when
25:45you're literally being watched there was a ring camera right there and the olguins would listen
25:50and watch us say every single thing we said to those workers and right before going out they literally
25:56told us each what exactly and remember the olguins were receiving substantial funds social workers
26:04tell us the turpin children qualified for the highest level of need which meant the olguin payments could
26:11amount to as much as 15 000 every month money to be used for the children's needs like food clothing
26:17transportation allowances then about a year after the children came to the house the olguins got approval
26:23to adopt five of them their sister jordan was not adopted but had witnessed the truth inside that home
26:30after the adoption it got really really bad like they kind of like completely dropped the act of like
26:35pretending to care about us at all and they say they witnessed the olguins becoming increasingly
26:41violent with the younger children including a new five-year-old foster child not a turpin who has also
26:49now been sent into this home i was always really really scared it was like a nightmare
26:59james is thinking about escape he secretly contacts his older brother who is not in foster care
27:04at that time i kind of felt like my life was like doomed i guess so um i was like
27:12i'm gonna have to
27:14like figure out how to live on my own and if i can't find happiness then like there's nothing for
27:20me
27:20in life kind of so it was like a last resort kind of for me james runs away from the
27:27olguins to stay
27:28with his brother two weeks later jordan will leave the home determined to help her siblings again
27:35she sets out to find a child advocate she had met and trusted and tell her everything her siblings
27:41had been suffering for three years with this family the family they once hoped would give them love
27:47it was like they're getting paid to love me and be my parents and they can't even do it and
27:53um even the
27:55people that gave birth to me couldn't do it either that proved in my mind that proved to me that
28:01i i don't deserve a family
28:07so how did this happen how did the foster care system let these children down how is this possible
28:15what would you call this when you look back at it and you're going to meet the one person who
28:20said
28:20i'm going in to save them no matter what
28:46this is body cam footage as sheriff's deputies wait in the driveway of the olguin house
28:52arrest warrants in hand the olguins pull up in a van with all the children inside
29:00yeah it looks like they're all together let's leave the kids in there for a second okay the
29:04detectives make sure the children are shielded from the site as the olguins are arrested
29:10the bottom line is you're going to be arrested i don't want to do it in front of your kids
29:15okay
29:16if you can just handcuff them from the door so the kids don't see the kids go inside to collect
29:21their
29:21belongings at last child protective services is going to move them somewhere safe they are
29:28understandably overwhelmed scared julissa reaches out to a consoling detective i know i know
29:37honey you gotta be brave okay okay you're fine it's okay and it turns out that kind detective
29:45is the hero whose determination ended their three-year nightmare i'm tom salisbury i'm a
29:52former master investigator for for the riverside county sheriff's department they call him detective
29:58tom a 40-year veteran of the force he remembers the moment he received a copy of a kind of
30:04routine
30:04report from child protective services it was in fact jordan's plea for help as told to that trusted
30:11child advocate detective tom says it stopped him cold specifically references to severe physical abuse
30:21to severe in my opinion based on the turpin's history emotional abuse right away he goes to
30:28interview jordan and james turpin himself about the abuse he reviews every document he can find about
30:35the old genes even looks at finances toward the end of her stay there jordan was supposed to be provided
30:43a certain amount of money right for her right but but the parents were taking that and then he is
30:51outraged when he finds in the county files other allegations of abuse against the old genes one of
30:57them made by a foster child who had lived there well before the county sent in the turpins these
31:03allegations were not investigated by child protective services for three years when they finally did
31:09they deemed them unfounded does it shock you that then the most traumatized kids at the time and the
31:19most famous case of child abuse at the time that these kids would be placed in that home i don't
31:25think
31:26they should have been placed in that home no he asks child protective services to remove the children from
31:32that home immediately but what happened riverside county cps declined to remove the children so you
31:39said to yourself i mean i don't usually beg but i begged and uh they wouldn't do it why they
31:47felt like
31:49even though i had sent them what james told me and what jordan told me it was like they chose
31:56not to
31:56believe it i wasn't going to turn a blind eye to it and go nod my head and agree and
32:04put them back in
32:05those homes after i found out what i found out that wasn't going to happen they suspected i might have
32:10been too emotionally involved how can you find out this and not be more emotionally involved i'm human
32:20human enough to be that detective you saw consoling julissa turpin okay you're fine it's okay
32:29in court as we said marcelino olgin ultimately pleads guilty to seven counts of lewd acts on a child
32:38one count of cruel and inhumane punishment one count of witness intimidation he is sentenced to seven years
32:45in state prison he will be a lifetime convicted sex offender the mother rosa and her daughter lenise
32:51plead guilty to child endangerment false imprisonment witness tampering and rosa pleads guilty to grand
32:57theft felony convictions for each with four years of probation and work release in lieu of jail time
33:06so tonight here we are asking once again how could this possibly happen to the turpin children
33:13our first report on the turpins prompted a major investigation of riverside social services
33:20but we didn't get detailed answers about what went wrong in foster care so we went back with questions
33:26again and this time riverside county officials came back with a very different kind of response
33:32a five-page letter that begins in part the abuse these children suffered in both their biological
33:38and adoptive homes was tragic and unacceptable no one wants this to happen again to prevent that they
33:46say they have made significant changes emphasizing when the risk is high they must act fast and share
33:52information including with law enforcement staff are now trained to conduct interviews with awareness of
33:58recording devices and avoid locations where the children can be overheard and they told us they are
34:05committed to protect children and elevate their voices and by the way they have increased the number of
34:12social workers in the county by 29 which means fewer cases per worker more time to probe what is really
34:19going on so what about childnet that placement agency we asked them questions too including should the
34:28turpins have been placed with the old gains they did not answer that but sent us a lengthy statement that
34:34reads in part we are deeply sorry for the pain they suffered during the time the children were in child
34:41nets foster care program there were no complaints or allegations of abuse and neglect the allegations
34:46raised in this matter came after the children were no longer in child nets care and after the foster care
34:52case
34:52had been closed childnet helped these children thrive so we went back to our experts like detective tom
35:00to ask how a big bureaucracy with so many people could let this happen you can't write heart and compassion
35:09and empathy into rules and laws no nor can you common sense or common sense i don't think they wanted
35:17to
35:18be wrong and i think they really wanted to believe that it wasn't going on and it was all minor
35:23stuff
35:25i i have to be very clear that there are some very very good social workers uh that work in
35:32this arena
35:32that's riverside county sheriff chad bianco who tells us what he thinks has to change there's a an
35:39inherent desire sometimes within government to protect itself from failures and i hope that i hope that that
35:47changes i hope that we realize that we always have to be better kids can't protect themselves but the
35:53changes came too late for the turpin siblings and they took the agencies to civil court they had been
35:59told over and over again that you are safe you are saved we will help you we got you trust
36:06us
36:08and then they were placed here
36:11with a child molester they were placed here with child abusers they were even convicted of a theft
36:19crime the olgians theft from children turpin lawyers elan zexter and roger booth sued childnet and riverside
36:30county and we can report tonight they received a substantial financial settlement for the six
36:36turpin's in foster care the amount is confidential and neither agency admitted to any wrongdoing in
36:42the settlement a number of their former employees have come forward and said hey some things should
36:49have been done differently or i tried to do something differently but childnet zero and tonight there are
36:58more than 320 000 foster kids in america hoping someone will just give them a loving family and a
37:05safe home it's why the turpin siblings continue to speak out they wanted to not just be these nameless
37:16faceless victims i think what's critically important here is these young people do have a voice and
37:26they've chosen to use it to help shine a light on what's wrong with the system something good needs to
37:33come from this it has to and i can't accept it not next the turpins tell you about their lives
37:40today
37:40that's coming up
37:48thank you we're in the house abc news rented for the day our interview is over so like any other
37:55kids
37:56they're making tick tocks together they have celebrated graduating from high school new life
38:05learning fast being in a plane was crazy because i used to look at planes and i was like i
38:11thought
38:12that you literally had to be billionaires to fly in a plane like i literally thought you had to own
38:17the
38:17plane or build the plane yourself to go in i literally could never guess what an airport was i was
38:23told so
38:23many times you can never navigate the airport by yourself it's really easy actually it tells me
38:29everywhere to go i know exactly how could anyways sorry don't want to make anybody feel bad if they
38:35struggle navigating an airport oh a lot of traveling in my future for sure i want to go to paris
38:41and i
38:41want to go to new york and james once so quiet so shy is practicing how not to be i
38:47started getting into
38:49like um music festivals and it's like everyone's like super friendly and um i also like going to
38:56like line dancing and stuff like that with like my sisters a new dance of freedom from the dark past
39:03we ask if they think about seeing their biological parents again i have no no need no interest in ever
39:10seeing either one of them again it would shatter me i'd like sometimes i do have delusional moments
39:17where i'm like i think she could have been a good mom or i think she might have actually changed
39:21but
39:22um i know that's not true they made it seem like that they thought god was telling them to do
39:28all
39:28that stuff to us and that's literally not how god is at all like jesus is light he's pure light
39:35i don't
39:35understand like why they had to be my parents i've always wished i had normal parents or just someone i
39:41like go to and you know rely on or ask questions or whatever but um i have the internet so
39:49it's okay
39:50they say therapy has been key i've been like literally discovering all these things about my brain
39:57that helps me have clarity of who i am my identity and who i want to be what i can
40:04work on what i can
40:05fix and also realizing too that it's not my fault is a big thing too and so is gratitude for
40:13the kind
40:14foster family who took them in after the old gains and for the first time they got to learn what
40:19a
40:19loving mother will do i remember that she would literally stay up really late talking to us at night
40:25and she would be so tired and she would just let us yap we're yappers if you can tell they
40:31are also
40:31grateful for the generous things you our viewers did for them after our first report there was no
40:37obligation they didn't get any fame out of it or anything we've gotten so much love and i feel like
40:42that that's such a blessing as of tonight where are the turpin children you've met well the turpin
40:49sisters from our first story jennifer is working in a medical clinic has found love and gotten married
40:57jordan is living on her own and working on a big new project julissa has her own home and is
41:03hoping
41:03to study art and be a singer while jolinda who dreams of being an actress has moved to washington state
41:12a brand new place for a brand new beginning and james i'm like really into like games right now and
41:20i would
41:21like to be like a bartender like by the beach i want to be a very like social guy with
41:27a lot of
41:28connections i'm very very hopeful for my future and i feel like things are finally starting to like
41:34turn around i feel like i can i have like a dream now a dream where sadness is transformed by
41:42will
41:43wonder and faith i don't want like people hearing my story and be like wow what a sad story poor
41:49jelissa
41:49like she's so strong i want them to be like wow god is good look what he's done faith as
41:54small
41:54as the mustard seed can move mountains i love that verse there's always there's always always always
42:00hope the children whose little arms once broke our hearts now have arms proclaiming possibility
42:11tattooed lyrics from a harry styles song they love we'll be fine we'll be all right
42:20to me that song just means that like we're gonna be okay we're always gonna get through everything
42:26and at the end of the day we're always gonna have each other
42:51so
42:57so
43:03so
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