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Taiwan-born NASA astronaut Kjell Lindgren returned to his birthplace to share insights from his missions aboard the International Space Station. In this exclusive interview, Lindgren discusses the psychological toll of long space missions and reflects on the "overview effect," describing earth as a fragile spaceship that requires the same diligent care as the ISS.

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00:00You were away in the International Space Center for, you know, four to five months, a long period.
00:05Tell me about how space takes a toll on your body and your mind,
00:12and also if you can look at that through the fact that, as you mentioned, the next destination will be
00:17Mars.
00:18How will that change these impacts?
00:20Absolutely. You know, I think that for most of us, the biggest challenge of being in space for five, six,
00:28twelve months
00:28is really being away from our families, and the team does an amazing job of allowing us to connect with
00:34our families
00:35through a phone system, through video chats, through care packages.
00:42As I think about that long duration flight to Mars, it will continue to be even more challenging
00:50because we're going to be further away from the Earth, increasing our communications latency.
00:56We're not going to have the Earth to look at every day, but I have faith in our psychological,
01:02our behavioral health support team, our mental health team, that will support us as we undertake that challenge.
01:08We hear about the profound changes, or the profound change, that astronauts have, sort of psychologically,
01:18as they look down more than 10,000 kilometers onto Earth.
01:23Can you tell us about that, as well as the concept of Earth as our spaceship?
01:30For myself, looking back at the Earth, I felt very connected.
01:33But really, the most profound element was looking at the Earth and its absolute beauty,
01:38but recognizing that on the space station, this vehicle that provides us with air to breathe and food to eat,
01:45and the protection from the harsh environment outside, we spend 30% of our time taking care of this space
01:52station.
01:52Because if it breaks, the crew inside dies.
01:56We depend on the space station for our life.
01:59And then as you look at the Earth, there is nothing like it in our vicinity.
02:05And all of humanity is there.
02:07It is humanity's spaceship.
02:09But I think that very few of us spend 30% of our time taking care of this spaceship, spaceship
02:15Earth.
02:17The resources are not inexhaustible.
02:20They are limited.
02:20And the belief that I came back with is that we need to do a better job taking care of
02:28humanity's spaceship.
02:30So what is it that makes NASA want to work with Taiwan?
02:34And what have you seen so far on this trip that's impressed you?
02:37You know, NASA in the U.S. is interested in partnering with countries all around the world.
02:46Finding partners that can bring expertise and experience to the table.
02:52We are exploring for humanity.
02:55And we want humanity, the broad swath of partnerships, to be a part of this exploration.
03:01This has been an amazing trip to visit this university, to see the experience they have in space,
03:09and really to learn about Taiwan's expertise and technology.
03:14Those are pieces that can be a critical part of future exploration.
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