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00:04:55In the neighborhood, the kids, the boys, caddied and on Monday they could play on the golf course free and
00:05:02they said if I had a golf club I could go play with them.
00:05:05I was 11 years old and I was 11 years old and I was 11 years old and I was
00:05:0811 years old and I found some golf balls and I sold them back to the golfers and got on
00:05:13the streetcar and went down into the city of Detroit to find a golf club for a dollar.
00:05:18And I went to CastingWords and I went to CastingWords.
00:05:49The putter is a football club and I went to one and I met him to one subject to an
00:05:49educated course.
00:05:49And the putter is the last club to win or lose a tournament.
00:05:53So I started at the end and I'm trying to get to the beginning.
00:06:10I'm just an ordinary person
00:06:13who's lived an ordinary life
00:06:17Do you think about it?
00:06:18No, I never think about it
00:06:21Here's the picture, you've got to get this picture
00:06:24Look at that one, can you get that?
00:06:26In your story
00:06:30Marilyn is so nice
00:06:32that all through our years on tour
00:06:34I used to thought she was fake
00:06:36Nobody could be that nice
00:06:37But I found out since then
00:06:40she really is that way
00:06:42She would ask the guy pumping gas
00:06:44what his name was
00:06:46where he lived, how many people he had
00:06:48and he had a bad
00:06:49beat up old fair shoes
00:06:51and she'd give him 20 bucks
00:06:53You rarely see somebody
00:06:55that really thinks there is a Santa Claus
00:06:57Because that was, it was
00:06:59Oh, Schicklegruber
00:07:02Well, when I was 10, 11, and 12 years of age
00:07:04I was the pitcher, the coach, and the manager
00:07:06of a boys' baseball team
00:07:07in Wichita, Kansas
00:07:09And I came home from pitching one day
00:07:11when I was 12
00:07:12and my mother said
00:07:13How'd you do today, dear?
00:07:15And I took my mitt
00:07:15and I threw it against the wall
00:07:17and I said, oh, a four-letter word
00:07:19beginning with S
00:07:20Well, she marched me into the laboratory
00:07:22and washed my mouth out
00:07:23with Lifebuoy soap
00:07:24And when my dad came home
00:07:25she told him what I had said
00:07:27And he said
00:07:28we'd better take her out
00:07:29to the Wichita Country Club
00:07:30in Wichita, Kansas
00:07:31and teach her a more ladylike sport
00:07:33So a bad word
00:07:35actually got me going into golf
00:07:42You don't beat me
00:07:43unless you beat me
00:07:45Just the way I was
00:07:47is the way I was
00:07:48and the way I am
00:07:50I'm still that way today
00:07:51even at my age
00:07:59She was a competitor
00:08:01Very kind person
00:08:03if you knew her
00:08:05Honest, sincere
00:08:06has all the right values
00:08:10She had a dog named Dammit
00:08:15But she stayed within herself
00:08:18Louise, yeah
00:08:21Well, the first set of clubs
00:08:22I've ever had
00:08:26were wooden shafts
00:08:27that Dad had in pro shop
00:08:30old clubs that were stuck in a barrel
00:08:32and he sawed them off to suit me
00:08:35and he used a bicycle tape
00:08:37for groups
00:08:39And I remember him
00:08:40saw me wrap a club
00:08:42around the pine tree one time
00:08:43and said,
00:08:44Sis, when you learn to be a lady
00:08:46on the golf course
00:08:47you can have your clubs back
00:08:48when you come apologize
00:08:50About a week later
00:08:52I went,
00:08:52I'm sorry Dad
00:08:53I won't do that again
00:08:54and I never did
00:09:06They're going to ask you questions
00:09:07but try to just look at me
00:09:09Okay
00:09:10When you answer
00:09:11Okay
00:09:11I just want to keep you looking right
00:09:13I'll pretend you're a ventriloquist
00:09:14or someone
00:09:15When they ask the question
00:09:17I'll just move my mouth
00:09:18Okay
00:09:19She's a good kid
00:09:21I like Marlene
00:09:22I always have them
00:09:23I always will
00:09:30She was a good putter
00:09:33Good competitor
00:09:35She and her sister, you know
00:09:37were quite the stars
00:09:38on the LPGA circuit
00:09:42My father
00:09:43he wanted two young boys
00:09:46because he saw the future in golf
00:09:47and he got two little runt girls
00:09:51He wanted to teach us a skill
00:09:53that could earn us some money
00:09:55and get us out of Eureka South Dakota
00:09:57He started me at three and a half
00:09:59put a golf club in my hand
00:10:03Have you seen this?
00:10:04What's that?
00:10:05Have you seen this?
00:10:07This is my
00:10:08This is me
00:10:09This is my sister
00:10:11My father and my mother
00:10:12Life magazine
00:10:13They wanted to
00:10:14because we were the
00:10:15you know
00:10:16At that time
00:10:17I held all the records
00:10:18for the youngest ever
00:10:19to do something or other
00:10:20They put a doll in the shop then
00:10:23Well I think they wanted
00:10:24to point out
00:10:24that at 13
00:10:25I should be playing with dolls
00:10:27instead of
00:10:27trying to start a golf career
00:10:30I never played with dolls
00:10:31I was too busy
00:10:32That was the way
00:10:33they set it up
00:10:36I was the youngest player
00:10:38My sister was probably
00:10:39the next youngest
00:10:40She was six and a half years
00:10:41older than I
00:10:42So she would have been 14
00:10:44There was never any jealousy
00:10:46She probably rooted for me
00:10:48more than she rooted for herself
00:10:51I played in the South Dakota
00:10:52State Championship
00:10:53when I was seven
00:10:54That same year
00:10:55or the next year
00:10:56I played in the
00:10:57Women's Western Open
00:10:58in Chicago
00:10:59I was kind of an oddity
00:11:02Or we both were
00:11:14She was a show person
00:11:16She was
00:11:17She was
00:11:18She knew she was good
00:11:19and she told everybody
00:11:20she was good
00:11:21And I'm here
00:11:22and I'm gonna win
00:11:28She's a real cut up
00:11:29She's a jokester
00:11:32She's a good person
00:11:35Courage
00:11:35Strength
00:11:38Winner
00:11:40She didn't care
00:11:41what she did
00:11:42or how she did it
00:11:43She did it
00:11:44That was Babe
00:11:47Babe Zaharias
00:11:48was from Beaumont, Texas
00:11:49Her father was a carpenter
00:11:52It was a large family
00:11:53and had kind of a struggle
00:11:55getting along
00:11:57There was a series of hedges
00:11:59in her neighborhood
00:12:00one right after another
00:12:01and she would hurdle
00:12:03over the hedges
00:12:04Babe Zetrickson
00:12:04leads the world
00:12:05as champion girl athlete
00:12:06This shows her victory
00:12:08She even performed in vaudeville
00:12:10playing a harmonica
00:12:11anything to do
00:12:12to make a little money
00:12:14She always wanted to win
00:12:16She wanted to be the best
00:12:18and she went to great lengths
00:12:19to do that
00:12:33I think back about
00:12:36how I got into the game of golf
00:12:38when I was in grade school
00:12:40and I looked in the encyclopedia
00:12:42under sports
00:12:44and there was a name there
00:12:45Babe Zetrickson
00:12:48and Babe Zetrickson
00:12:50did everything
00:12:50and in 32
00:12:52in the Olympics
00:12:53she won medals
00:12:54I'm awfully glad
00:12:56to have been able
00:12:56to set this new hurdle
00:12:57marking
00:12:57and hope to do it
00:12:59better some other time
00:13:05And then she did other sports
00:13:08all kinds of sports
00:13:09so I thought
00:13:09gee whiz
00:13:11she did all those things
00:13:15After winning
00:13:16in the Olympics
00:13:17she found that
00:13:19there was nothing
00:13:20to play in
00:13:26It was very frustrating
00:13:28to her
00:13:28because here she was
00:13:30probably the greatest
00:13:30woman athlete
00:13:31of all time
00:13:32and she couldn't make
00:13:33a living doing it
00:13:34really
00:13:34There were no
00:13:35professional sports
00:13:36leagues for women
00:13:46When I went to college
00:13:48at the University of Kansas
00:13:49there was no girls golf team
00:13:52but my dad went to
00:13:54Fog Allen
00:13:54the director of athletics
00:13:55to ask if he could get
00:13:57some expense money
00:13:58for his daughter
00:13:59to play in the National
00:14:00Intercollegiate Golf Tournament
00:14:01which is going to be
00:14:02in Ohio State
00:14:03His reply was
00:14:05Mr. Smith
00:14:06it's too bad
00:14:07your daughter
00:14:07is not a boy
00:14:13There was a boys
00:14:14junior championship
00:14:15They wouldn't let me
00:14:17play in it
00:14:18at first
00:14:18and the paper
00:14:20the media got on them
00:14:21so bad
00:14:21that they were forced
00:14:23to let me play
00:14:24There was this boy
00:14:25I thought he was really cool
00:14:27you know
00:14:27he was 15
00:14:28and so
00:14:29I beat him
00:14:30in the finals
00:14:31and he just
00:14:33never spoke to me
00:14:34again for a long while
00:14:36Thank you very much
00:14:37Bud
00:14:37You know Howard
00:14:38I taught Bud
00:14:39how to play football
00:14:40Is that right?
00:14:41Yeah we played
00:14:41for the 50th Street Tigers
00:14:42Where was that Patty?
00:14:43Minneapolis, Minnesota
00:14:44What did you play?
00:14:45I played quarterback
00:14:46and he played tackle
00:14:48Well Patty
00:14:49I know that the people
00:14:49are interested in
00:14:50how you hit those golf shots
00:14:51and for many years
00:14:52you've been known
00:14:53as one of America's
00:14:53greatest putters
00:14:54Patty Berg was
00:14:56women's golf
00:14:57but in my day
00:14:59I mean
00:15:03that's all you'd heard about
00:15:04Well Patty Berg
00:15:05who has won them all
00:15:06drives in one of the biggest
00:15:071941
00:15:08when we had
00:15:09the National Amateur
00:15:10at Brookline
00:15:12Massachusetts
00:15:15and Patty
00:15:16being a professional
00:15:18was not allowed
00:15:19in the clubhouse
00:15:20believe it or not
00:15:24One of the 1941
00:15:25and 1943 Open
00:15:26Patty cuts that lead
00:15:28to one hole
00:15:28Golf was a rich man's game
00:15:30In that era
00:15:31you couldn't compete
00:15:33unless you belonged
00:15:34to an organization
00:15:35or a private club
00:15:37It was very closed
00:15:38A new clubhouse
00:15:39has recently been completed
00:15:41and for the enjoyment
00:15:42of golf
00:15:42In those days
00:15:43it was kind of
00:15:45a class thing
00:15:46You know
00:15:47we were from
00:15:48the wrong side
00:15:48of the tracks
00:15:50The only openings
00:15:53for competition
00:15:54in that era
00:15:55was to
00:15:57have enough money
00:15:58to drive to Florida
00:16:00in the winter
00:16:00and play in private
00:16:02invitational events
00:16:04which
00:16:04Marilyn and I
00:16:05never had that opportunity
00:16:08Of course
00:16:09then during the war years
00:16:10everything changed
00:16:14Oh I remember
00:16:15where I was
00:16:16Where?
00:16:17Playing kick the can
00:16:18with the boys
00:16:18out in the street
00:16:20Of course you were
00:16:21And I can see
00:16:21my dad coming out
00:16:22of the door
00:16:23and he said
00:16:23we've been attacked
00:16:24by the Japanese
00:16:25so we just went back
00:16:26and played kick the can
00:16:27you know
00:16:27it didn't mean much
00:16:28but my mother
00:16:29was born in Germany
00:16:31and somehow
00:16:32the people
00:16:33in the neighborhood
00:16:34knew that
00:16:34and they would
00:16:35throw rocks
00:16:35at her window
00:16:36Record a few
00:16:37personal opinions
00:16:38on the timely questions
00:16:39Would sports be discontinued
00:16:40During World War II
00:16:42there were no tournaments
00:16:43period
00:16:44men or women
00:16:45or there was no baseball
00:16:46nothing went on
00:16:47during World War II
00:16:48in competitions
00:16:49The importance of sports
00:16:50has been challenged
00:16:51The value of its
00:16:51The men
00:16:52were in the military
00:16:55Women were expected
00:16:56to take over
00:16:58the jobs over here
00:17:01During the war
00:17:02we had a service station
00:17:04when the draft
00:17:05all the young men
00:17:07were gone
00:17:07so they hired women
00:17:09to work in the service station
00:17:10in those days
00:17:11they checked the oil
00:17:12washed the windshield
00:17:13you know
00:17:14checked the air
00:17:14and the tires
00:17:15and that and the other
00:17:16I worked for
00:17:17the whole oil corporation
00:17:19for eight years
00:17:20and I put a tire iron
00:17:22behind my front seat
00:17:25but I'd have to go
00:17:26check on these stations
00:17:27and see
00:17:28everything that was going on
00:17:29believe me
00:17:30my teeth chattered
00:17:32a couple of times
00:17:32When women began
00:17:34to respond
00:17:35convinced they could
00:17:36do factory work
00:17:37or anything
00:17:38within their strength
00:17:39that men could do
00:17:39for Uncle Sam
00:17:40Women took up the slack
00:17:44Rosie the Riveter
00:17:45and what not
00:17:48Winner one up
00:17:49Patty takes over
00:17:50the custody
00:17:50of the Western Open Crown
00:17:51for the second time
00:17:52in three years
00:17:53a grand uphill fight
00:17:54climaxed by a triumph
00:17:55which for thrills
00:17:57is exceeded only
00:17:57by this greater moment
00:17:58as she signs up
00:17:59with the Women's Reserve Corps
00:18:00of the U.S. Marines
00:18:01and promptly models
00:18:03her next new hat
00:18:04we hasten to admit
00:18:05Patty
00:18:06on you
00:18:06it looks good
00:18:14Betty Hicks served
00:18:15in the U.S. Coast Guard
00:18:16as a public relations officer
00:18:20Betty Jameson
00:18:21took a job
00:18:22with the Army Air Corps
00:18:23in San Antonio
00:18:24driving trucks
00:18:28Helen Detweiler
00:18:29was a member
00:18:30of the WASP
00:18:31women's air service pilots
00:18:33and she actually
00:18:34flew B-17 bombers
00:18:37over to England
00:18:38from the United States
00:18:39to drop them off
00:18:40for the U.S. men's military
00:18:42to fly
00:18:43women were taking part
00:18:45in the war
00:18:45and these were all
00:18:45great golfers
00:18:46they couldn't
00:18:47just leave their job
00:18:49as a member of the military
00:18:50to play in golf tournaments
00:18:59well
00:18:59in World War II
00:19:01they weren't allowed
00:19:03to make golf clubs
00:19:04they weren't allowed
00:19:05to make golf balls
00:19:07because they were
00:19:07made out of rubber
00:19:08or balladets
00:19:09until the war was over
00:19:11there were no
00:19:12no new golf balls
00:19:14when the war ended
00:19:15the federal government
00:19:17and industry
00:19:18in America
00:19:19were concerned
00:19:20about returning men
00:19:22to the jobs
00:19:23that women had held
00:19:24during the war
00:19:25women had carried
00:19:26a lot of the work burden
00:19:27in the United States
00:19:28now the men come home
00:19:30and they want to get
00:19:31the men back
00:19:32in those jobs
00:19:58was that feeling behind it
00:20:00that I want to do something
00:20:02other than teach school
00:20:03or be a secretary
00:20:04or be a wife and mother
00:20:05I'm ready for my life
00:20:07to begin
00:20:07I want to have
00:20:08some adventure
00:20:16Babe Zaharia's famous athlete
00:20:18tees off
00:20:18in the All-American Championship
00:20:20at Chicago
00:20:20we very seldom
00:20:22ever had tournaments
00:20:23where it was a mixed tournament
00:20:25where men and women
00:20:26played together
00:20:26that was a real
00:20:28real big thing
00:20:29because George S. May
00:20:31allowed men amateurs
00:20:33men pros
00:20:34men lady pros
00:20:36lady amateurs
00:20:38celebrities
00:20:39everybody could play
00:20:40it was like a circus
00:20:41the sun came up
00:20:43and you started playing
00:20:44at the end of the day
00:20:45they didn't get finished
00:20:46you went the next morning
00:20:48and you played
00:20:48he brought the public interest
00:20:51into the game of golf
00:20:55you actually had
00:20:57men like Byron Nelson
00:20:59and they were great golfers
00:21:02and they were great names too
00:21:04and you were
00:21:05putting people out there
00:21:07whom everybody knew
00:21:08and that was fantastic golf
00:21:12the men were objecting
00:21:14to have equal pay
00:21:18Betty Hicks won
00:21:20the world open
00:21:21Byron Nelson
00:21:23won the men's division
00:21:25touch and win
00:21:26this year's tam-o-shander
00:21:28is worth a cool
00:21:29ten thousand dollars
00:21:30oh what a winning
00:21:31Betty Hicks gets five hundred dollars
00:21:38that was the catalyst
00:21:40for forming
00:21:41the Women's Professional Golf Association
00:21:48the WPGA
00:21:50was set up by
00:21:52Ellen Griffin
00:21:53and Hope Signius
00:21:56then on the west coast
00:21:58there was
00:21:58Helen Detwiler
00:22:00and Betty Hicks
00:22:01Hope Signius
00:22:03and her father
00:22:05owned a gin mill
00:22:06and he's the one
00:22:07that put the money up
00:22:08for tournaments
00:22:08so they could play
00:22:09Hope Signius had money
00:22:11Ellen Griffin
00:22:12had determination
00:22:13and stick-to-itiveness
00:22:15and they formed it
00:22:16so that they could bargain
00:22:17with sponsors like George S. May
00:22:19and try to equalize
00:22:21the purses a little bit
00:22:22so that was in 1944
00:22:24I think it was incredibly difficult
00:22:27because you had letters
00:22:28flying back and forth
00:22:29and it was really difficult
00:22:31for them to get anything
00:22:32off the ground
00:22:33and they did get a few tournaments
00:22:35off the ground
00:22:37finally had six tournaments
00:22:38they had the Women's Western Open
00:22:40they had the Women's Texas Open
00:22:42the U.S. Women's Open
00:22:43the Hard Scrabble Invitational
00:22:46in Arkansas
00:22:46the Tampa Women's Open
00:22:49there was the title holders
00:22:51in Augusta, Georgia
00:22:52at Augusta Country Club
00:22:54which was considered
00:22:55the women's version
00:22:56of the Masters
00:22:58they had their first
00:23:00U.S. Women's Open
00:23:01showing the form
00:23:02that won the 1941 and 43 Open
00:23:04it was a match play event
00:23:06it was a grueling contest
00:23:07they played about 36 holes a day
00:23:09and Patty finally won that
00:23:16I thought gee that would be great
00:23:17as soon as I get out of high school
00:23:18I'm going to join the WPGA
00:23:20well the WPGA fizzle-dizzle out
00:23:24Geographically you know
00:23:26it was too difficult
00:23:27for them to organize
00:23:29and I think there was
00:23:31quite a lot of dissent
00:23:33between what they should do
00:23:36in 1948
00:23:39the WPGA just sort of fell apart
00:23:42it's because the women
00:23:44didn't want to do the work
00:23:46according to Betty Hicks
00:23:47I wouldn't agree with that
00:23:48I think they wanted to do the work
00:23:50I just think they found it
00:23:52too difficult to agree
00:23:54on what the work was
00:23:55they didn't want to do
00:23:56all the housekeeping it took
00:23:58to run these championships
00:24:00it just started to crumble
00:24:03they did have disagreements
00:24:05as any lot of people will
00:24:07but I don't think it was
00:24:08a lack of trying
00:24:11very simple
00:24:12they didn't have the money
00:24:13but they were
00:24:15you know
00:24:15they were amazing
00:24:16pioneer women
00:24:17those women
00:24:31women's amateur golf
00:24:33has always done
00:24:34very well
00:24:35I think women's
00:24:36professional golf
00:24:38was regarded
00:24:39very differently
00:24:41for women to even
00:24:42become professional golfers
00:24:44people didn't like
00:24:45athletic women
00:24:45you know
00:24:46women weren't supposed
00:24:48to do that
00:24:48we were playing
00:24:49the women's western open
00:24:51in Skycrest Country Club
00:24:53in the Chicago area
00:24:55in June of 1949
00:24:59and we were sitting
00:25:00eating breakfast
00:25:01with Babe
00:25:02and Babe
00:25:03looked at me
00:25:04and she said
00:25:06listen kid
00:25:07why don't you
00:25:07turn pro
00:25:09so I said
00:25:10well Babe
00:25:10how do you do that
00:25:11and she stood up
00:25:13walked around the table
00:25:14and put her hand
00:25:15on my head
00:25:16just clunk
00:25:18I almost bit my tongue
00:25:19off
00:25:19clunk
00:25:20she said
00:25:20I pronounce you a pro
00:25:22go down there
00:25:23on the T
00:25:24and tell them
00:25:24you're a pro
00:25:25an amateur
00:25:26never has prize money
00:25:27there's no prize money
00:25:29you get silverware
00:25:30if you took money
00:25:31you were a professional
00:25:34it seems
00:25:35from looking here
00:25:36that Louise
00:25:37had quite
00:25:37an amateur career
00:25:38she sort of ruled
00:25:41the roost of amateur golf
00:25:43on both the US side
00:25:47as well as over
00:25:48in the United Kingdom
00:25:49when I won the British
00:25:51it was the epitome
00:25:53of my amateur career
00:25:55you might say
00:25:55there was nothing else
00:25:57left that I was eligible
00:25:58to play in
00:25:59to win
00:26:00there were women
00:26:01who wanted to be
00:26:03professionals
00:26:03and there was nothing
00:26:05for them to play in
00:26:06I mean you could not
00:26:07make money
00:26:08as a professional
00:26:09because there weren't
00:26:10any tournaments
00:26:11we were all
00:26:12of one mind
00:26:13that
00:26:14we wanted
00:26:16a place for women
00:26:17to do
00:26:18something they loved
00:26:19and make a living at it
00:26:21well
00:26:22maybe it was
00:26:23we were just
00:26:24dumb or stupid
00:26:25or something
00:26:26we just wanted
00:26:27to play golf
00:26:28in 1948
00:26:29L.B. Isley
00:26:31with Wilson Sporting Goods
00:26:32got in touch
00:26:34with Fred Corcoran
00:26:35now Fred had been
00:26:36tournament director
00:26:37for the PGA Tour
00:26:38he was an agent
00:26:39he had great clients
00:26:41he had Ted Williams
00:26:43he had Sam Snead
00:26:45he had Babe Zaharias
00:26:46and she was the personality
00:26:50who came along
00:26:51and made it possible
00:26:52whatever Babe was doing
00:26:54then people were interested
00:26:56whether she won or lost
00:26:57if she lost
00:26:58she was the headlines
00:27:00which the other women
00:27:02found difficult
00:27:03the fabulous Babe Dietrichson
00:27:04is the apple
00:27:05of the gallery's eye
00:27:06as she turns in
00:27:07a fine performance
00:27:08over the grueling
00:27:0972 holes
00:27:10here
00:27:11she makes a smooth approach
00:27:15you had wonderful
00:27:16women golfers
00:27:17I mean
00:27:17Patty Berg
00:27:19and Louise Suggs
00:27:20were probably
00:27:21both finer golfers
00:27:22Patty Berg
00:27:23is making a strong finish
00:27:26Miss Suggs is holding off
00:27:28that's enough to make
00:27:29any challenger realize
00:27:30she's up against
00:27:31the toughest competition
00:27:32in women's golf
00:27:33Babe just had
00:27:34so much more
00:27:36in terms of
00:27:37hitting the golf ball
00:27:38I mean she
00:27:38just hit the golf ball
00:27:40so much further
00:27:40than everybody else
00:27:45because Babe was
00:27:46probably more
00:27:48like a man playing golf
00:27:52people wanted to watch her
00:27:54so she went to
00:27:55Wilson Sporting Goods
00:27:56and said
00:27:57I want a tour
00:27:58and I want to be able
00:28:00to play
00:28:00against other competitors
00:28:02she
00:28:04convinced
00:28:05Mr. Isley
00:28:06who was president
00:28:07of Wilson
00:28:08and Spalding
00:28:10and McGregor
00:28:10to hire
00:28:11Fred Cochran
00:28:12He wanted to further
00:28:14promote sporting goods
00:28:15equipment
00:28:15so it would put the name
00:28:16of those golf clubs
00:28:18out there
00:28:18those big staff bags
00:28:20that would say
00:28:20Patty Berg
00:28:21Wilson
00:28:21on the side
00:28:22in front of spectators
00:28:25They had a meeting
00:28:26at the Venetian Hotel
00:28:27in 1949
00:28:28with Patty Berg
00:28:29Babe
00:28:30and George Zaharias
00:28:31and Fred Cochran
00:28:32and they decided
00:28:33they would
00:28:34really
00:28:35turn the WPGA
00:28:36into the LPGA
00:28:37When we became
00:28:38the LPGA
00:28:39in 1950
00:28:40at Rolling Hills
00:28:41Country Club
00:28:42in Wichita, Kansas
00:28:44I was 15
00:28:46It was more
00:28:47than money
00:28:48We wanted
00:28:49the world
00:28:50to recognize
00:28:51that women
00:28:51can be great golfers
00:28:53Remarkable
00:28:55that those women
00:28:55got that off the ground
00:29:26are the only
00:29:27girls
00:29:27can be great
00:29:29can be great
00:29:29as they were
00:29:29or
00:29:29women
00:29:41and they
00:29:42can be great
00:29:42as they are
00:29:50We were a group like a carnival, and we went from town to town to town.
00:29:56We did the whole thing ourselves.
00:29:57We had physical struggles because we had to drive so far.
00:30:01One of our trips was 1,600 miles from Bokan, Washington, to Waterloo.
00:30:06That took almost two days.
00:30:07We didn't have cell phones.
00:30:09We had ping-pong paddles.
00:30:12One was yellow, one was red, one was green, and we'd wave it out the window, and the food
00:30:17was green, yellow was pee, and red was gas.
00:30:27And if we saw a cop's car behind the signboard, we'd blink our lights so that the people behind
00:30:35us would know this was a cop.
00:30:37You know, we'd usually caravan from place to place with three or four cars.
00:30:40And Louise used to caravan sometimes with me, and you know how she talks?
00:30:45She'd say, now slow down.
00:30:46I don't like to go as fast as you.
00:30:48And you can well imagine what went on from there.
00:30:52Marlene Hage was driving my car, and all of a sudden she slammed on the brakes, and we
00:30:58skidded sideways up to this 18-wheeler.
00:31:01And when I looked up, we had slid practically under the trailer.
00:31:05I said, get out.
00:31:06I'm driving.
00:31:07I don't care how sleepy I am.
00:31:08I'm better to have a sleepy than you are awake, supposedly.
00:31:12I like to go.
00:31:15Well, there were no interstates.
00:31:17We used to go through all the little towns.
00:31:21The whole city turned out for our little tournament.
00:31:26Well, we checked in, of course, into the motel or the hotel.
00:31:30Some of us would speak at a Kiwanis or Lyons luncheon to promote the tour.
00:31:36Of course, we had to get our hair done.
00:31:41We'd go to the local ball games and hit shots from home, played under lights, hitting the
00:31:47golf ball with an 8-iron.
00:31:49It looked like you were knocking 10,000 miles.
00:31:59We went to the local radio station.
00:32:02We had posters.
00:32:04We stopped at all the stores.
00:32:05Can we put this in your window?
00:32:09People like that were so supportive.
00:32:11This one tournament, we had 19 players, but we only paid 18 people.
00:32:17So what did the people in Waterloo do?
00:32:19They passed a hat to a round of the people, and they got $100 for the last place.
00:32:25Gives me goosebumps to think about.
00:32:27Marilyn Smith, one of the tour's most popular young ladies, shows why she is also a top player.
00:32:32We were really good in that type of atmosphere.
00:32:34When you put us in a big city, no.
00:32:37Uh-uh.
00:32:38It wasn't time yet.
00:32:40The tour back in those early days, it was like a big family.
00:32:45The nation's distaffed swingers arrive early to get a little practice before teeing off
00:32:49on the final round of the 72-hole tournament.
00:32:52We would go to a club and give an hour demonstration clinic, showing how people did things incorrectly, and then
00:33:04we'd show them how to do it correctly.
00:33:06And then we would play nine holes with the pro, the ladies' champion, the men's champion.
00:33:11And as we played the hole, we would explain how we were approaching the shots, and we were teaching them
00:33:19a learning experience.
00:33:22Here we are, a slice from left to right, putting the visor in slicing position.
00:33:26You can see how important the visor is.
00:33:28See, the club on the outside of the line, hitting the ball now from left to right.
00:33:34The more people we got involved in playing, the more spectators would want to come and watch us perform.
00:33:40When we had these tournaments, they would have an evening for us to dress up and come to the club
00:33:47and meet the people, the sponsors.
00:33:55I've gone to so many cocktail parties, I can't tell you.
00:33:59And I don't drink.
00:34:00I could make a drink glass until the ice melted.
00:34:03But baby don't know the lengths that I would go to.
00:34:09Inside the clubhouse, we would model these clothes for the people.
00:34:13That was, that was another way of publicizing.
00:34:16That we were feminine too, we weren't just, you know, we could dress up too.
00:34:25Someone didn't want to do it.
00:34:27In fact, we got to the point sometimes where we had to find them, but they didn't go.
00:34:32So, and we did.
00:34:35And the women professionals had to talk to all these people, and that certainly wouldn't have suited Louise.
00:34:43In anything you do where you rely on the public to pay your way, you have to treat people nicely,
00:34:50you have to have grace, you have to not be a hothead.
00:34:54Come on out here.
00:34:55Look in here, look in here.
00:34:58Look in here.
00:35:01You're Alice.
00:35:02That's right.
00:35:03And you're Marlene.
00:35:04Marlene.
00:35:05Turn around and let the folks say, you know, this is really something, Don.
00:35:08Not only are these, they look like athletes, and yet they're beautiful.
00:35:12You bet.
00:35:13Just beautiful.
00:35:13And you slug these golf balls, how much do you weigh?
00:35:18I weigh 120.
00:35:20120?
00:35:21Yeah.
00:35:22And you?
00:35:22I weigh 106, with all my clothes on.
00:35:27On television, it has to be that one.
00:35:30We played the National Open one time at Wingfoot in New York.
00:35:34And so Alice and I had to go buy some skirts, because slacks were not accepted.
00:35:42Women's golfers couldn't wear slacks on the golfers if they look too masculine, I don't know.
00:35:47With more and more attractive pros, a lot of men are beginning to realize that the ladies' pro tour offers
00:35:53a lot more to attract galleries than just good golf.
00:35:57It is a fact, however, that competitive athletics tend to destroy all that is natural in women and all that
00:36:06which tends to make them attractive to men.
00:36:12Babe was quite aware of the fact that she needed to become more ladylike to be more acceptable.
00:36:27People didn't like athletic women.
00:36:30I think they still find it hard.
00:36:31All through the decades, they found it hard to deal with athletic women.
00:36:42Getting sponsorship was the hardest thing.
00:36:46We depended on the Lions Club, the Sipatan Group, and they would have us come there as an attraction, so
00:36:54they would make money.
00:36:55And they would put up a prize the first 25, 30 years.
00:37:00All we did is go from spot A to B to C, whoever would put up some money for us
00:37:06to play for.
00:37:08Players ran the tour. There was no paid staff.
00:37:11We had a treasurer who gave out the money, you know, at the end of the tournament.
00:37:16And then we had a tournament committee who went out and set up the golf courses, lime off certain areas
00:37:21and did all that.
00:37:22We had a pairings committee.
00:37:23And then we had someone that called up after the tournament to associate a press to give the scores.
00:37:28You know, it was just a put-together thing.
00:37:32We didn't get much press, honey.
00:37:34If we got any press that was on the back page, and I always misspelled my name.
00:37:38My name has two N's on Marilyn, and they didn't believe it.
00:37:42They always chopped that off.
00:37:45As a professional, we played a course, and I looked down the fairway and, well, where's the grass?
00:37:51And I thought, what in the hell have I done?
00:37:56The kind of golf courses we played on in those days were certainly not like they are today.
00:38:01Right now, some of the fairways are better than most of the greens we played.
00:38:06We played steel shafts, wooden heads. We only had one wedge. We could play a tune with our wedge.
00:38:16We played courses much longer than what they play today.
00:38:20Courses that were brand new, and we were kind of a guinea pig before the men came.
00:38:25Then another course we played in 1950 was a 60-mile-an-hour win.
00:38:30And I was paired with Louise Suggs and Shirley Sport.
00:38:34Shirley was going to take a three-wood shot and hit the ball.
00:38:36Well, the wind blew her off balance, and she missed the ball.
00:38:39Well, we went, just laughed and thought that was so funny, you know.
00:38:45Well, Louise plugged along, and she had a 78, which is one of the best rounds of golf in 60
00:38:51-mile-an-hour wins.
00:38:54There's a light in my life shining over me.
00:38:58The only way I know to describe it is you just took what you could get.
00:39:02There's a light in my life shining over me, yeah.
00:39:09Let your blessings from above feel me.
00:39:13They're playing for their next meal.
00:39:17There's a light in my life.
00:39:19For the next place they're going to stay.
00:39:21They're playing for the love of it, but they're also playing to make it a job.
00:39:26Well, we were supposed to be married in the house and taking care of children,
00:39:30and it wasn't a norm to have a woman out on the golf course.
00:39:43We overcame that. We just didn't pay attention to that.
00:39:50Well, anything in those days in a skirt that was skinny,
00:39:55halfway combed hair and stuff, they whistled that.
00:40:01They didn't know quite how to take us.
00:40:04Because it was normal for a man to be an athlete.
00:40:08It wasn't normal for a woman to be an athlete.
00:40:11Like, why would you want to do this?
00:40:13It was all right to play for a silver pot.
00:40:17I think when you became a professional, that was regarded as really different,
00:40:22and to play for money wasn't nice as a woman.
00:40:27Generally speaking, men have a hard time accepting a female athlete.
00:40:32If a woman could hit the pin with the same club that a man uses,
00:40:38she'd beat him every time.
00:40:40Of course, I was jumped on like you can imagine what by the press for saying that.
00:40:47But that's what I believed.
00:40:53Louise was the first woman to play against men at a professional level.
00:40:59Louise managed to win it.
00:41:01She said that that particular day, playing from the same tees with the men,
00:41:05after the 54-hole competition that ended, she was the winner.
00:41:10As she was walking out of the event in the parking lot, she saw Sam Sneed,
00:41:16and he was sort of gruff and head down and walking away,
00:41:20and then he kind of turned back and had a few curt remarks.
00:41:25Louise took great pleasure in saying to Sam,
00:41:29Sam, I don't know what the hell you're bitching about
00:41:32because you weren't even second.
00:41:36So he scratched out of there and left about a half ton of rubber on the cement.
00:41:42Louise Suggs and I were paired in a twosome,
00:41:45and I hooked the ball into the left ruff.
00:41:48And I said, Louise, I said, this isn't my ball.
00:41:52And she said, oh, my God.
00:41:54I was assessed shot for every shot you hit with the wrong ball.
00:41:58She was really militant about doing things the right way and everything.
00:42:03She said, Marlene, I want to tell you.
00:42:05She said, I don't know if anyone else would have done what you did
00:42:08because nobody would have ever known.
00:42:10That meant so much to me.
00:42:12That was a better gift than winning the tournament, really,
00:42:16to have somebody like Louise say that.
00:42:21On the course, I had no friends.
00:42:26Anybody that I played was an enemy.
00:42:28It made no difference who it was.
00:42:30And by nature, competitive nature, to win.
00:42:36Well, Louise has probably told you about her with Babe, haven't she?
00:42:41Yeah.
00:42:42So I won't go into that.
00:42:44Babe not only was self-promoting,
00:42:46she was all-consuming of the space around her,
00:42:50and that didn't set too well with Louise.
00:42:57I was paired with her to qualify for the Western Amateur in Indianapolis.
00:43:07She came in and I got up and walked over and I said,
00:43:10Mrs. Harris, I'd like to introduce myself.
00:43:14We're paired together today.
00:43:16She looked at me up and down and said,
00:43:19Well, so what?
00:43:22Well, that was the beginning of a beautiful friendship, I might add.
00:43:27Louise Suggs was a gem so far as golf, a golf swing is concerned.
00:43:32But the personality was Babe.
00:43:40And Louise didn't have that personality, found it terribly difficult to project.
00:43:48They were very different personalities.
00:43:51Babe Zaharias was a show-off, very outgoing.
00:43:56Louise Suggs is very reserved.
00:43:58Louise just wanted to do her thing and win and, you know, quietly.
00:44:08And Patti Berg was always able to project.
00:44:12But, you know, Babe just had so much more in terms of hitting the golf ball.
00:44:18I mean, she just hit the golf ball so much further than everybody else
00:44:22and was so athletic.
00:44:24I mean, you couldn't ever describe Patti Berg as athletic.
00:44:27She was a great golfer.
00:44:29But she wasn't athletic and Babe was.
00:44:33Had it not been for her, the LPGA probably wouldn't have started for another decade.
00:44:41She went in the locker room one time and she said,
00:44:44All right, you girls, I need to make more money than you do because I am the star.
00:44:51Babe Dedrickson Zaharias and Patti Berg...
00:44:53And Patti cornered her afterwards and said,
00:44:56Babe, you may be the star, but every star has got to have a chorus line.
00:44:59The world's leading woman athlete teeing off in the final round with a three-hole lead.
00:45:03But the sturdy Minneapolis redhead is right after her in a thrilling homestretch battle
00:45:07at Chicago Skycrest course.
00:45:13Showing the form that won her the 1941 and 43 Open,
00:45:17Patti cuts that lead to one hole with sharpshooting like this.
00:45:22The Babe isn't missing them either.
00:45:23Quite a ding-dong affair.
00:45:28At the end of the regular 36 holes, the girls were all even.
00:45:31It was shots like this that helped Patti square the match
00:45:34with a highly favored Mrs. Zaharias carrying the play into a hectic overtime duel.
00:45:39Patti copped the cup with her putt on the 37th
00:45:41to win the Western Open for the third time,
00:45:44equating the Babe's victories in the same event.
00:45:47Somebody asked me one time,
00:45:49Do you all get together before the tournament starts
00:45:51and decide who's going to win the tournament?
00:45:54I said, No.
00:45:57If you've ever seen three cats fighting over a plate of fish,
00:46:00you'll know why.
00:46:14We'll never find any three more competitive women than we were.
00:46:21Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang.
00:46:26Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang.
00:46:31Bang, bang, bang.
00:46:33Bang, bang, bang.
00:46:34Bangity bang.
00:46:35I'll tear you my lips for you're looking for you.
00:46:37Louise was the one that dug in and worked.
00:46:40She didn't care if she got any credit for it.
00:46:43Patti liked the credit.
00:46:45And Babe was the most charismatic.
00:46:50Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang.
00:46:55Bang, bang, bang, bang.
00:47:00Hi, sport fans.
00:47:02This is Howard Miller, ready to take you around the nation
00:47:04for a close-up look at some great sporting scenes.
00:47:0750 stars led by Babe Didman's Open Championship.
00:47:10Babe holds the Rolling Hills Course woman's record with a 70,
00:47:14and today she's a co-favorite again.
00:47:17The other favorite is defending champion Louise Suggs.
00:47:20Last year, she won her first national open at Landover, Maryland,
00:47:23with a record 291.
00:47:27And still in there is Patty Berg of Minneapolis,
00:47:30who won the first national open back in 1936, 14 years ago.
00:47:36A sponsor wouldn't stand for not having Babe and Patty and myself
00:47:43and a few other people like that.
00:47:46Because we both had red hair and about the same stature,
00:47:50people started following me because they thought it was Patty Berg.
00:47:54And then when they found out it wasn't Patty Berg, they went somewhere else.
00:47:58She was good with the crowds, and she was fantastic.
00:48:04I think I was closer to Patty on a personal basis.
00:48:12She was a very pleasant person to be with and outgoing,
00:48:17and tried to promote the game of golf other than herself,
00:48:22where I think Babe was busy promoting herself.
00:48:27But the main gallery is following the Babe again, out to sew it up.
00:48:31Like a champion, she saves her best round for the final day and plays amazing golf.
00:48:43The $1,250 mean $14,000 for the Babe so far,
00:48:48while amateur Betsy is happy to nose out Louise Suggs.
00:48:53Babe and Betsy, two happy lessons.
00:48:59Babe irritated some people that were serious because she was a cut-up,
00:49:02and she'd do some things sometimes called gamesmanship to bother you.
00:49:07And then she'd make fun of it later, so it was hard to stay mad at her,
00:49:11but you knew that she was going to try to do some stuff.
00:49:14She always swore that she never got appearance money
00:49:17because the LPGA didn't allow that, still doesn't allow it.
00:49:21Oh, yes, I would have said she definitely got appearance fee
00:49:25to turn up at tournaments and would have asked for them,
00:49:28and would have got them,
00:49:30and maybe would have been resented for having got them.
00:49:34Patty Burke said she never broke any rules,
00:49:36and Louise Suggs says otherwise.
00:49:41Louise absolutely was the conscience of the rules,
00:49:46even to the point where she refused to sign
00:49:49one of the Babe's cards after the event
00:49:52because she felt that she pressured
00:49:55one of the Rules Committee people
00:49:57to give her that favorable ruling.
00:50:00To this day, I don't know how much appearance money she got,
00:50:04but she told the story that she always gave it to the LPGA.
00:50:09She did not.
00:50:10That's one of those things that she and I came to blows about,
00:50:15just about.
00:50:19I wouldn't have thought that they found it easy
00:50:23to live with Babe, those women.
00:50:25But they knew that she was their bread and butter.
00:50:29So, I mean, you know, you can't knock your bread and butter.
00:50:32You know, there's a difference between being a buddy
00:50:35and respecting the talent.
00:50:37There was a great respect for the talent.
00:50:39When I first met Babe, it was in Sacramento.
00:50:44She had the greatest hazel eyes I have ever seen.
00:50:49I mean, they just, they were right on you,
00:50:52going through you, towards you,
00:50:54any which way, but full of life.
00:50:56But the Babe sinks her to win with a new course record of 298.
00:51:05Some said she'd been slipping this winter,
00:51:08but the Babe never played better golf.
00:51:13In 1948, she had a pain in her side,
00:51:18and instead of finding out what was the problem medically,
00:51:22she ignored it.
00:51:24And that went on for four years,
00:51:27which seems unbelievable that somebody could have that much pain
00:51:32and then go on for another four years
00:51:35before she did anything about it.
00:51:37It was just a startling thing
00:51:39that this great athlete with this perfect body
00:51:42could have anything go so wrong.
00:51:46And it was very hard.
00:51:49Fred Corcoran, after Babe Zaharias got really sick,
00:51:53he resigned.
00:51:55The funds were dropped, so he left us.
00:51:58And then several of us took over
00:52:01as tournament directors to get tournaments.
00:52:04Well, we did whatever we had to do.
00:52:06We couldn't afford a commissioner for a few years.
00:52:10And that's when some of our arguments started.
00:52:16Everybody had to come to the meeting,
00:52:18and you discussed whatever you wanted to talk about,
00:52:21and you get up and argue about it,
00:52:23and try to get in an agreement
00:52:26as to what we're going to do.
00:52:28There was a lot of disharmony in those meetings.
00:52:33It must have been really hard.
00:52:36Well, some of them were screen fests.
00:52:40Women hold a grudge.
00:52:43It's hard.
00:52:44Men, you know, they can go to a meeting
00:52:45and argue and cuss and swear.
00:52:47But women hold a grudge, and that's not good.
00:52:50You've got to let it go.
00:52:52We all came together in the end.
00:52:54And, you know, it was just a very passionate display of opinions.
00:53:10This article came out in January 1954.
00:53:17She did it tongue-in-cheek,
00:53:19but at the same time,
00:53:20I think it did upset most of the women she wrote about.
00:53:24Patty Berg was the healthiest hypochondriac.
00:53:27Most of us get amusedly weary hearing of Patty Berg's...
00:53:33Uh-huh.
00:53:36Well, okay.
00:53:39Marlene Bauer has never finished high school.
00:53:41That's neat.
00:53:42But when I left,
00:53:44the principal of the school,
00:53:45he said,
00:53:46you're wasting your time here.
00:53:47You'll learn more on the tour.
00:53:49So she didn't tell the whole story.
00:53:51That's perfect.
00:53:52Out going, Marilyn Smith sometimes gets so sociable
00:53:55with a tournament guy
00:53:56that she forgets to hit her shots.
00:54:00I had many opportunities to be engaged or married,
00:54:05and I didn't want to do that.
00:54:07I wanted to just keep going all by myself.
00:54:09That was the choice I made.
00:54:12Well, I almost got married two or three times, you know,
00:54:15and very hard to settle down, you know,
00:54:18when you're traveling like that.
00:54:22That would have been a big decision to quit.
00:54:27I wasn't in love with them enough to do that,
00:54:29to quit the tour and marry him.
00:54:35People like that,
00:54:37that put other people down,
00:54:38they don't like themselves.
00:54:40And so they feel better
00:54:42when they can push somebody down a little farther
00:54:44so they're taller.
00:54:45I don't think it endeared her
00:54:47to her fellow competitors.
00:54:50But on the other hand,
00:54:51it was probably great publicity for the LPGA.
00:54:56I'm sure that Babe was really annoyed by the article.
00:55:00She told Betty Hicks
00:55:01that she would leave the tour
00:55:03and see how Suggs earns the money.
00:55:06George actually would not have let Babe leave the tour
00:55:10because George was earning money
00:55:12with Babe earning money.
00:55:17The Wichita Country Club in Kansas
00:55:19makes way for a new USGA Women's Open Golf Champion
00:55:22with Mrs. Babe Zaharias sidelined by illness.
00:55:26Faye Crocker of Montevideo...
00:55:28And she collapsed in 1952
00:55:31at a tournament in Texas.
00:55:33And it wasn't until 1953
00:55:36that she was actually diagnosed with colon cancer.
00:55:41You never thought of her as a victim or being sick.
00:55:45She was a very good trooper about that.
00:55:48She took what life handed her and carried on.
00:55:53After Babe got cancer in 1953
00:55:55and had the dramatic surgery
00:55:57that she had to have in order to survive,
00:56:01everybody thought she was finished.
00:56:04But she loved golf so much
00:56:06that she slowly began to come back.
00:56:08In the Women's National Open near Boston,
00:56:11Babe Didrickson Zaharias making a...
00:56:13And it must have been her strength,
00:56:15her determination,
00:56:17that made her go on.
00:56:20Babe drops a six-footer
00:56:21to preserve her par and her big lead.
00:56:23And she won by ten strokes.
00:56:26And I consider that
00:56:27the greatest women's Open victory of all time.
00:56:32Mrs. Zaharias has the crown wrapped up.
00:56:35Just 18 months ago,
00:56:36she underwent an operation for cancer.
00:56:38Everyone said her career was over.
00:56:40But here she is, winning by a mile,
00:56:42a margin of 12 strokes with a score of 291,
00:56:45one of the most inspiring comebacks
00:56:47in all sports history.
00:56:55U.S. GA President Ike Granger presents the cup,
00:56:58then Babe offers some touching remarks.
00:57:01I don't like to keep bringing up
00:57:02this hospital deal of mine,
00:57:07but I was laying there in room 201
00:57:10at the Hotel Dew Hospital,
00:57:12and these reports were going out
00:57:15about that I'd never play championship
00:57:18or tournament golf again.
00:57:22And I laid in the bed,
00:57:24and I says,
00:57:25Please, God, let me play again.
00:57:27And he answered my prayer.
00:57:29And I want to thank God
00:57:31for letting me win again.
00:57:32It's really wonderful.
00:57:34Last time I saw Babe
00:57:37was at the Women's Title Holders
00:57:40in Augusta.
00:57:44Now, she'd had her operation
00:57:46for cancer,
00:57:48and things aren't looking too good.
00:57:51As the first time I saw,
00:57:53I checked those eyes.
00:57:55Those eyes were lifeless now.
00:58:03Babe Zaharia spent her last Christmas
00:58:06in Fort Worth, Texas.
00:58:08She was good friends
00:58:09with R.L. and Bertha Bowen.
00:58:11R.L. flew them from Beaumont,
00:58:14and Babe got off this little plane,
00:58:17and she still had it on her pajamas
00:58:18and her nightgown.
00:58:20And Babe said to Bertha,
00:58:21she said,
00:58:23can you take me out
00:58:24to Colonial Country Club?
00:58:26And Bertha said yes,
00:58:27and they got in Bertha's station wagon,
00:58:28and they drove out.
00:58:29They drove along this little dirt road
00:58:31that went up next to the second green,
00:58:33and Bertha helped Babe out of the car.
00:58:37And she said,
00:58:38I just wanted to see a golf course
00:58:40one more time.
00:58:52You know,
00:58:53it was terrible for a lot of us.
00:58:57Well,
00:58:58she died of cancer,
00:59:00you know,
00:59:00and,
00:59:03well,
00:59:04that's,
00:59:04I don't want to go through all that.
00:59:15It was sad.
00:59:17And it was sad
00:59:18that it would happen
00:59:18to somebody like her
00:59:19because she looked so strong
00:59:21and so healthy.
00:59:26Never missed a beat mentally
00:59:28until her dying day.
00:59:32We all admired her.
00:59:45I'm sorry she passed away.
00:59:47I'm sorry
00:59:47anybody passes away
00:59:49for that matter.
00:59:51I don't grieve for Babe
00:59:52in my own way.
00:59:54That was what I did.
01:00:09It was such a tragedy
01:00:11to us
01:00:12because she was our drawing card,
01:00:14because she was there,
01:00:15we were there.
01:00:16She was the star.
01:00:18And people came
01:00:19because they knew her,
01:00:21and then they began to know us
01:00:23because of her.
01:00:25People were afraid
01:00:27that maybe the LPGA tour
01:00:28would fall apart.
01:00:30Because the LPGA
01:00:32had been sold on Babe,
01:00:34I think it was very difficult.
01:00:36It was a huge blow for them.
01:00:41We did all crazy things
01:00:42to try to get people
01:00:44to come watch us.
01:00:45Shirley and I went
01:00:46to a boxing match again
01:00:47to try to get support.
01:00:50We had to sit there
01:00:51and watch the fight,
01:00:52and they were punching each other
01:00:53and squirting the blood
01:00:55and sweat on Maryland.
01:00:58I got woozy,
01:00:59and I couldn't go
01:01:00into the ring,
01:01:01but Shirley did.
01:01:02She walked through those ropes.
01:01:04They ring the bell,
01:01:05and this is Shirley's fork,
01:01:07and come out
01:01:08to the National Open
01:01:10and see the golfers tomorrow
01:01:11or the next day,
01:01:12and they all, you know,
01:01:13all the boxes,
01:01:14boo, boo, you know.
01:01:15I don't know
01:01:16if any of those boxing fans came,
01:01:18but we did everything
01:01:19we could to get publicity.
01:01:23People are really staring at you,
01:01:24and some are probably looking
01:01:26to hope that you foul up.
01:01:28Did we worry
01:01:29that we were going to survive?
01:01:30I think every year
01:01:32we went home
01:01:33after the season,
01:01:34we didn't know
01:01:35what the next season
01:01:36was going to bring.
01:01:37It was always a worry.
01:01:41We had to get more players.
01:01:42You've got to show
01:01:43that you're producing,
01:01:44like planting a plant.
01:01:46Is it going to grow?
01:01:47Are you going to feed it?
01:01:48Then it'll grow.
01:01:50It's true that today
01:01:52men still monopolize the sport.
01:01:54Out of approximately
01:01:5510 million golfers
01:01:57in the United States,
01:01:58only 2.5 million are women.
01:02:01But ladies' golf
01:02:02is growing in popularity,
01:02:04and much of the credit
01:02:05for this growth
01:02:06goes to the LPGA,
01:02:08the Ladies' Professional
01:02:10Golf Association.
01:02:12There are great players
01:02:14like Patty Burke
01:02:15and Betsy Rawls
01:02:16and Mickey Wright
01:02:17who have played well
01:02:18for many, many years.
01:02:22The future of
01:02:23ladies' professional golf
01:02:24really depends on
01:02:25the young pros
01:02:26that are now
01:02:27just getting started.
01:02:32I also feel that
01:02:34the gals,
01:02:35as time goes on,
01:02:36will find their tour
01:02:38increasing not only
01:02:39in interest
01:02:40but the volume
01:02:42of the tournaments,
01:02:44the amount of money
01:02:45they're playing for
01:02:45and so forth
01:02:46will also increase
01:02:47simply because
01:02:48golf has become
01:02:50so popular
01:02:50with the ladies
01:02:51in the United States.
01:02:52I'm gonna keep on loving you
01:02:57to never, never, never, never
01:03:00stay with me
01:03:01When I started
01:03:02back in 62,
01:03:03I think we had
01:03:0330, 35 players
01:03:05a week at best
01:03:06and now we have
01:03:08many times
01:03:0980 and 90 players.
01:03:20I think all of the players
01:03:22today have beautiful golf swings
01:03:25and great will to win
01:03:27and desire.
01:03:29we're starting
01:03:30our progress now
01:03:31and I don't think
01:03:32there's any stopping
01:03:33I think we're just
01:03:34we're just climbing
01:03:35the ladder now
01:03:36we're just about there
01:03:37and I think
01:03:39all we can do now
01:03:40is go up.
01:03:42Althea Gibson-Darvin
01:03:43is probably one of the
01:03:44outstanding tennis stars
01:03:46of all time.
01:03:47She turned to
01:03:47professional golf
01:03:48in 1963
01:03:49and has made a good
01:03:50showing for herself.
01:03:52Althea's athletic skill
01:03:53and her marvelous
01:03:54sense of humor
01:03:54have endeared her
01:03:55to both golf fans
01:03:56and the girls
01:03:57on the tour.
01:03:58Althea Gibson
01:03:58was the first
01:04:00African-American woman
01:04:02to play on the tour.
01:04:04Well Althea won
01:04:05Wimbledon twice
01:04:07which was extraordinary
01:04:08and then when she
01:04:10retired from tennis
01:04:12she decided
01:04:13she wanted to take up
01:04:14professional golf.
01:04:15Former U.S.
01:04:16and Wimbledon
01:04:16tennis champion
01:04:17Althea Gibson-Darvin
01:04:19into professional golf now.
01:04:21And I don't know
01:04:22how she managed
01:04:23I mean how she managed
01:04:24even to play
01:04:25professional golf
01:04:26I don't know
01:04:26but to manage
01:04:28as an African-American
01:04:30in those days
01:04:31really was a very
01:04:32difficult path
01:04:34to tread.
01:04:36We were playing
01:04:37at a tournament
01:04:37in Texas
01:04:38and they wouldn't
01:04:39allow her
01:04:40in the clubhouse
01:04:40so Lenny Wirtz
01:04:41was our tournament
01:04:42director
01:04:42and all of us
01:04:43decided to
01:04:44not play
01:04:45at that course
01:04:47and move
01:04:47someplace else
01:04:48where she would
01:04:48be accepted.
01:04:49We took care
01:04:51of each other
01:04:51you know
01:04:52no matter what
01:04:53I mean
01:04:54we didn't believe
01:04:54in that
01:04:55we were
01:04:56that's what
01:04:56we were fighting
01:04:57for was equality
01:04:58as women
01:05:00in fact
01:05:01we boycotted
01:05:03three tournaments
01:05:04because they wouldn't
01:05:05let Althea
01:05:06change her shoes
01:05:07she'd had to change
01:05:08her shoes in the car
01:05:08so finally
01:05:10there were a couple
01:05:10of places
01:05:11that we did not play
01:05:12because of that
01:05:13Baton Rouge
01:05:14was one of them
01:05:15as you can well imagine.
01:05:17This is indicative
01:05:18of a true champion
01:05:19and those who can
01:05:21sustain
01:05:22stay out there
01:05:23and win championship
01:05:24after championship.
01:05:28And when Renee Powell
01:05:29came along
01:05:30after her
01:05:31it was still
01:05:33unbelievably difficult
01:05:35for Renee
01:05:35and she suffered
01:05:36a lot as well.
01:05:38I think there were
01:05:39a lot of issues
01:05:41certainly in our country
01:05:43we had a lot
01:05:44of racial issues
01:05:45and I certainly
01:05:46had problems
01:05:47at hotels
01:05:48I had problems
01:05:49at restaurants
01:05:50I had problems
01:05:51sometimes
01:05:51just trying to get
01:05:53into the locker room
01:05:53at various clubs.
01:05:55My peers
01:05:56on the tour
01:05:57were
01:05:58they were
01:05:59like a family
01:05:59if something
01:06:00if there was an issue
01:06:01and somebody knew about it
01:06:02they would always come
01:06:03to my defense.
01:06:05That's one thing
01:06:06that the LPGA
01:06:06were very proud of
01:06:07we don't care
01:06:08what color you are
01:06:09or what
01:06:10you're accepted.
01:06:12And the LPGA
01:06:14is far more accepting
01:06:16than the PGA
01:06:17ever was.
01:06:19The struggle
01:06:20of women
01:06:21in this country
01:06:21and the struggle
01:06:22of color
01:06:23in the country
01:06:24sort of run
01:06:25parallel
01:06:26which is something
01:06:27that I've always
01:06:27sort of understood
01:06:29because I've been both
01:06:30I am both
01:06:31you know.
01:06:32You know
01:06:32when I think
01:06:33about growing up
01:06:34and being Hispanic
01:06:35and being a female
01:06:37there were times
01:06:38I couldn't play
01:06:38at certain times
01:06:39and with respect
01:06:40to the men
01:06:40I think it's
01:06:41you know
01:06:41it was definitely
01:06:42a man's world
01:06:43back then.
01:06:44They were pioneers
01:06:45in the
01:06:45really women's sports
01:06:47not just golf
01:06:48but women's sports
01:06:49I mean
01:06:49it really was
01:06:50the forerunner
01:06:51of all of women's sports.
01:06:53You know
01:06:53when we talk
01:06:54about title 9
01:06:54it came along
01:06:55long after
01:06:56after the LPGA
01:06:58was formed.
01:07:02Will you
01:07:05will you
01:07:07will you
01:07:10will you
01:07:12be
01:07:13my
01:07:14love
01:07:18Somebody's
01:07:19gonna
01:07:19hold my hand
01:07:22Somebody's
01:07:22gonna
01:07:23understand
01:07:25Somebody's
01:07:26gonna
01:07:26treat me right
01:07:27Can't get
01:07:28for me
01:07:29to love
01:07:29and hope
01:07:29day and night
01:07:31The only thing
01:07:32I've got
01:07:33I'm thinking
01:07:33I'm thinking
01:07:33I'm thinking
01:07:34I'm thinking
01:07:35I'm thinking
01:07:36I'm thinking
01:07:36I'm thinking
01:07:36I'm thinking
01:07:41The opportunity
01:07:43is worth there
01:07:44and I think
01:07:44that's what's
01:07:45been frustrating
01:07:45to the woman
01:07:46who wants
01:07:47to be an athlete.
01:07:48And I think
01:07:48that the perception
01:07:49is that a female
01:07:51is never a true athlete.
01:07:54I think it's harder
01:07:55for women
01:07:55to be athletes
01:07:56and when they succeed
01:07:57it's more
01:07:58an accomplishment.
01:08:04At one
01:08:05Sheehan was the only
01:08:06one off the green
01:08:07the Europeans
01:08:07were closed
01:08:09but not close enough
01:08:11they missed.
01:08:12I didn't plan on it
01:08:13I didn't
01:08:14it wasn't something
01:08:14that I came out
01:08:16this big announcement
01:08:17I just was tired
01:08:18of living in the closet
01:08:21really wasn't even
01:08:22talked about
01:08:24I think that
01:08:25you know
01:08:25there were
01:08:26some of the players
01:08:27probably knew
01:08:28and some didn't
01:08:29and it was just
01:08:30an accepted thing
01:08:31that you know
01:08:32this is who she is
01:08:33and she's a hell
01:08:34of a player
01:08:35and let's go
01:08:36let's go play golf.
01:08:49I know when I was
01:08:50a rookie
01:08:51I thought
01:08:52well
01:08:52you know
01:08:53we're going to
01:08:53catch up
01:08:54with the guys
01:08:54and our purses
01:08:55are going to be
01:08:56close to what
01:08:57they're making
01:08:57and now
01:08:58you know
01:08:592014
01:08:59I think we're
01:09:00about as far back
01:09:01as we were
01:09:02back then.
01:09:04The purses
01:09:04between men's
01:09:05and women's
01:09:06is always challenging
01:09:07I think
01:09:07you know
01:09:08obviously
01:09:08our founders
01:09:10battled
01:09:10the same thing
01:09:11it's still
01:09:12a current thing.
01:09:14You look at
01:09:15some of the telecasts
01:09:16and you watch
01:09:16the coverage
01:09:17and the way
01:09:17we're talked about
01:09:18is
01:09:18we're talked about
01:09:19as females
01:09:20what we wear
01:09:21how we're dressed
01:09:22how we act
01:09:23instead of
01:09:24our golf swings
01:09:25and the shots
01:09:26we can hit
01:09:26you know
01:09:26and that's
01:09:27that's something
01:09:27that we still struggle
01:09:28with and until
01:09:29you know
01:09:29we get to the point
01:09:30where we're seen
01:09:31as athletes
01:09:33we're going to continue
01:09:34to have smaller purses
01:09:35as the guys.
01:09:38The PGA Tours viewership
01:09:40today
01:09:40is probably
01:09:41you know
01:09:41three to some cases
01:09:42four times
01:09:43the viewership
01:09:44of a women's event
01:09:45and as a result
01:09:46of higher viewership
01:09:47they can charge
01:09:47a higher sponsorship
01:09:48and as a result
01:09:49of higher sponsorship
01:09:50they can create
01:09:50a bigger purse.
01:09:51I want to see
01:09:52our players playing
01:09:53for more money
01:09:53I want to see
01:09:54our players playing
01:09:55on a bigger stage
01:09:56and getting the credit
01:09:58that they deserve.
01:10:07People don't know
01:10:08how good we are.
01:10:16I want the girls
01:10:17you know
01:10:1820 years from now
01:10:19to be playing
01:10:19for more money
01:10:20and playing better
01:10:20golf courses
01:10:21playing the courses
01:10:22the guys play every year
01:10:23I think
01:10:23you know
01:10:24because I think we can
01:10:25you know
01:10:25people think
01:10:26that we're not good enough
01:10:27but we can play
01:10:27with those guys.
01:10:31I think that's probably
01:10:32the biggest message
01:10:33I'd like to give to
01:10:34you know
01:10:35to our daughter
01:10:35that it's
01:10:36you know
01:10:36you have a dream
01:10:37and it can happen
01:10:39it really can
01:10:39you just have to
01:10:40you know
01:10:41go about it
01:10:42and do it
01:10:42even with our son
01:10:44I want him to know
01:10:45that obviously
01:10:46he can do it too
01:10:47but the girls
01:10:48can do it equally
01:10:49as well
01:10:50so get used to it.
01:10:54I was a rookie
01:10:56in 1996
01:10:57and I just won
01:10:59the sprint title
01:11:00holders tournament
01:11:01which was at that stage
01:11:02before the
01:11:03not including
01:11:04the US Open
01:11:05it was the biggest
01:11:05purse on the LPGA
01:11:07and I won
01:11:08$180,000
01:11:09first place
01:11:10and Louise
01:11:11was in the media centre
01:11:13the first thing
01:11:14she said to me
01:11:15was
01:11:16you know girl
01:11:18you won more money
01:11:19today
01:11:19than I won
01:11:21in my entire career
01:11:23and
01:11:24you know
01:11:25that really puts it
01:11:25in perspective
01:11:26a 21 year old
01:11:27you know
01:11:28I thought I was loaded
01:11:29at the time too
01:11:30so
01:11:30to think that
01:11:32someone had won
01:11:33and accomplished
01:11:34that much
01:11:34in the game of golf
01:11:35and I'd just achieved
01:11:36financially
01:11:37what she had
01:11:38in her whole career
01:11:42she said it
01:11:42with all the pride
01:11:43that a mom would have
01:11:44she was almost
01:11:45it was almost overjoyed
01:11:47with the comment
01:11:48and I thought right there
01:11:49that's what separates
01:11:50the LPGA
01:11:51from other sports
01:11:52these women take pride
01:11:53in creating those opportunities
01:11:55when a lot of other sports
01:11:56almost have a bitterness
01:11:57about the fact
01:11:58that they played
01:11:58in the wrong era
01:12:04you know people come to me
01:12:06and said
01:12:06oh aren't you upset
01:12:07I mean
01:12:08god what could you
01:12:09making now
01:12:10if you'd done the same thing
01:12:11I said no
01:12:12I don't look at things
01:12:12that way
01:12:14everything it has
01:12:15you know
01:12:15I really don't
01:12:17go get her
01:12:19they're devoting
01:12:20a great deal of money
01:12:21to help
01:12:21promote
01:12:22junior girls golf
01:12:24and that's
01:12:25that's where
01:12:26we're going to
01:12:27keep going forward
01:12:29getting new
01:12:30young talent
01:12:32we made over
01:12:33$81,000
01:12:34last year
01:12:35in this tournament
01:12:36we think we're going to
01:12:36make over $100,000
01:12:37this year
01:12:38and we're going to give
01:12:39we gave $25,000
01:12:42scholarships
01:12:42to help young girls
01:12:43go to college
01:12:44and hold your finish
01:12:45and forefinger and thumb
01:12:47and toe of the club
01:12:48to the target
01:12:48it's just a wonderful
01:12:50opportunity to
01:12:51inspire young women
01:12:52for character
01:12:53and honesty
01:12:54and hard work
01:12:55and determination
01:12:58yeah the LPGA's mission
01:12:59is real simple
01:13:00we want to be
01:13:01the preeminent
01:13:01women's sports organization
01:13:03and we want to do that
01:13:04by attracting the best
01:13:05female golfers in the world
01:13:06be the best women's organization
01:13:08bring in the best
01:13:09and put them on display
01:13:10and through that display effort
01:13:12make sure we leave
01:13:13the game better
01:13:13and more opportunistic
01:13:14for the next generation
01:13:15of women in golf
01:13:16we have five tours
01:13:19five tours
01:13:22not one tour
01:13:23we have five tours
01:13:24we have the japanese
01:13:25the korean
01:13:26the european
01:13:27australian
01:13:28we have to learn
01:13:29your language
01:13:30right
01:13:30you're going to teach us
01:13:31the fact that women
01:13:33from all over the world
01:13:34go and make a living
01:13:36playing golf
01:13:37more than a living
01:13:38they can do incredibly well
01:13:40and they have to thank
01:13:41those women pond is
01:13:52you're playing
01:13:53you're playing
01:13:53great
01:14:00get in
01:14:04we created the founders cup
01:14:06because personally for me
01:14:08i found i was i was gaining strength
01:14:10from learning about the founders
01:14:12and what drove them
01:14:13and what was important to them
01:14:14and i realized that that strength
01:14:15was still completely relevant today
01:14:17but i wasn't sure that my young
01:14:1819 20 21 year old players
01:14:20were getting that same opportunity
01:14:22to see hear and feel the strength
01:14:24that came from 60 years ago
01:14:36that's almost too short
01:14:38don't you think
01:14:39i think so
01:14:52thanks for wearing pink today
01:14:55say founders cup
01:14:56i think we started with 13 players
01:15:06look where we are now
01:15:08isn't that something
01:15:1215 players
01:15:30surely she's not
01:15:32you're 87
01:15:34oh wait
01:15:34you can't be pushing like 57
01:15:36and a half
01:15:39do you have any
01:15:41major regrets looking back
01:15:42not about golf
01:15:43yeah i guess so
01:15:44i would have liked to have learned
01:15:46a lot about music
01:15:48i'd like to learn how to arrange flowers
01:15:51i think that's an art
01:15:53to be able to just you know
01:15:54you're just gonna dump them in a vase
01:15:56you gotta
01:15:57this is coming down the hill
01:15:59yeah
01:15:59i think we'll make this
01:16:00she's a teacher at heart
01:16:01i mean you know she
01:16:02she's just teaching from the minute
01:16:03she walks on the tee
01:16:04and she still hits the
01:16:05you know dead center square
01:16:06sweet spot of the golf club
01:16:08every time she swings
01:16:09it starts coming this way
01:16:11it comes over that
01:16:12so i'm a founder of the tour
01:16:15and a founder of the teaching division
01:16:17put your thumbs right on it
01:16:19so you get your hands
01:16:19i don't get numerous prize monies
01:16:22but i get
01:16:23the feeling that i've given something
01:16:26to carry on
01:16:28the game of golf
01:16:38she's priceless
01:16:38i hope she gets in the world golf hall of fame
01:16:41she deserves to be in it
01:16:43why wouldn't they put her in it
01:16:45part of it's political i think honey
01:16:47i don't know i don't know anything about it
01:16:49i'm lucky i'm in
01:16:58where's shirley
01:16:59is she in here
01:16:59come over here
01:17:00come over here
01:17:01come in the front
01:17:01come in the back
01:17:03get in the front
01:17:04get up here
01:17:04come in the front
01:17:06please mind
01:17:07please mind
01:17:09there
01:17:13thank you sweetie
01:17:16you're a hero
01:17:17what a legacy you've had
01:17:18how's it feel to be
01:17:19i'm just an ordinary person
01:17:22uh... lived an ordinary life
01:17:24thank you
01:17:25now here's something for you all
01:17:27i spend a lot of time talking to players about how to treat customers how to treat those who are
01:17:32outside the ropes
01:17:33what i really should have done now that i know maryland has just introduced maryland and left the room
01:17:38she sends me a thank you note every time we talk even if it's a phone conversation
01:17:41i'll get a handwritten note saying thanks for the time today commission
01:17:43i'll give you some magnets to all of you before you go has the name of our tournament on it
01:17:48well i've met five presidents and uh... been in all fifty states and thirty seven countries just because of golf
01:17:53looks what golf has given to me and uh... it's awesome
01:17:57thank you
01:18:03there's my
01:18:05trophy by world golf hall of fame trophy you want me to hold that you want a picture of that
01:18:09oh it's heavy isn't it
01:18:10it is heavy
01:18:10did you get it
01:18:12can't hold it too long
01:18:14it's my uh...
01:18:16prized possession i guess you'd say
01:18:19something that's special
01:18:22can you can you come and get this out of your room
01:18:32i gotta give you a hug because body language tells me you're a good person
01:18:36thank you so much
01:18:38i'm serious
01:18:38he's the best we got
01:18:39let me just switch your mic
01:18:40you have the right heartbeat
01:18:42when i think of marlene i think of longevity in golf
01:18:46you just can't imagine that this woman could have gone on all those years
01:18:50you know she's played professional golf at top level all that time
01:18:58how did she do it i've no idea i mean quite remarkable woman
01:19:03it's like i lived several different lifetimes because of the things that happened
01:19:10i don't know how to describe it
01:19:14certainly nothing boring or mundane about it
01:19:21if i could play another round of golf with somebody of the original thirteen it would be my sister
01:19:35because i could see her again
01:19:37because i could see her again
01:19:54to babe and louise shaking hands that's a good one
01:19:58after a tournament probably you know
01:20:01in 1988 patty burgh had taken the bus to attend a dinner honoring louise sucks
01:20:08And she said to me, she said, you know, I think Louise acted as if she was really glad I
01:20:15was there.
01:20:17And she said, I was happy to go, and I was delighted that she seemed happy I was there.
01:20:25She said, because, you know, Louise and I didn't always get along.
01:20:28And she said, I think it was because I was a good friend of Babe's.
01:20:35And she kind of settled back in the car seat and just stared out the window and said, I think
01:20:41everything's okay now.
01:20:43On one of Louise's visits to our club, her club, having lunch, she asked me if I would give her
01:20:50a tour.
01:20:51And I brought her down here to the lower level.
01:20:54And as she turned the corner from over here, and she spotted this piece of artwork of the Babe,
01:21:02she stood there, and her face got red, and she says, what in the holy hell is this woman doing,
01:21:11hanging on the wall of my club, and there's no artwork of me?
01:21:16And I said, Louise, Louise, please calm down.
01:21:19This is the basement area of the club.
01:21:22Over my shoulder, pretty soon, there's going to be an original piece of artwork of you.
01:21:28And that is on top of the Babe, where you have always been and how we always will see you.
01:21:38And that seemed to calm her down.
01:21:40In all fairness and due process of whatever, without Babe, we probably, Babe Zaharis, we probably wouldn't have made it.
01:21:51Louise Suggs was probably the one that did the most through it all.
01:21:57She was really dedicated, not that the others weren't.
01:22:00And she never got the credit that she should have gotten.
01:22:30You know, it's the first time.
01:22:34I think I've ever been up there with the big boys.
01:22:49Louise Suggs
01:22:51That's a lie.
01:22:51Louise Suggs
01:23:29I think you have to keep looking and searching, and someday you'll find something, a real spot you want to
01:23:39enjoy. Then you can sit down and rest.
01:23:45I was blessed. I've had so many wonderful blessings because of golf and the people that I've met along the
01:23:54way and the travels. I mean, it's just, we were blessed by the Lord or something because it's bigger than
01:24:01ever now.
01:24:02It's pretty exciting to be sitting here because, you know, if they haven't, weren't doing what they were doing back
01:24:09then, we wouldn't be here.
01:24:15We all are, yes, very proud.
01:24:19But as you can see, what's happening today, that's something to be proud of.
01:24:35I still feel very fortunate to be able to play the game that I love and make a living from
01:24:40it, and that's due to the 13 women that started this for us.
01:24:55I think that all of us draw strength from, if we think about it, from what those women did.
01:25:06We have to have the greatest respect for people who have laid the groundwork for others to follow it.
01:25:36Well, to next year, right?
01:25:39Yep.
01:25:39To next year.
01:25:40Right.
01:25:43There's a light in my life
01:25:46Shining over me
01:25:50There's a light
01:25:51There's a light in my life
01:25:53Shining over me
01:25:55Golf is forever.
01:25:57Golf is forever.
01:25:59And say that again.
01:26:01Golf is forever.
01:26:03My precious love
01:26:05There's a light
01:26:06In my life
01:26:08Shining over me
01:26:11Lord, sometimes I say that I wonder
01:26:15Why strange things happen to me
01:26:18Why strange things happen to me
01:26:19Why strange things happen to me
01:26:20Yeah, again I feel
01:26:22My friends are gone
01:26:25My friends are gone
01:26:26My friends are gone
01:26:26Yeah, but if I put my trust in Jesus
01:26:32Don't you see there's a light in my life
01:26:45Don't you see there's a light in my life
01:27:02There's a light in my life
01:27:23There's a light in my life
01:27:26Feel me with my precious love
01:27:31Feel me with my precious love
01:27:31There's a light in my life
01:27:33Shining over me
01:27:38I didn't know
01:27:38Oh sea of hope
01:27:40Yeah, I have a light in my life
01:27:57How strong luck
01:27:57You are gone
01:27:57A light in my life
01:28:05We come
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