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04:45Кайя Калас,
04:46speaking about the situation
04:47in Palestine yesterday.
04:49We can and must do more
04:52to ensure respect
04:53for human rights
04:54and accountability
04:56to protect
04:57the Palestinian people
05:00and to put the two-state solution
05:02solidly on the table again.
05:05And this is the only way
05:06that both the Palestinians
05:08and Israelis can live
05:09in safety, dignity and peace.
05:15EU Foreign Affairs Policy Chief
05:17Кайя Калас,
05:18speaking about the situation
05:19in Palestine,
05:20saying the EU needs to do more.
05:21But I've spoken to several diplomats
05:23from many countries
05:24over the past few days
05:25in relation to this.
05:25And it doesn't look like
05:27the EU will change its policy.
05:29First of all,
05:29to suspend even a part
05:31of the EU-Israel Association Agreement,
05:33you need a qualified majority.
05:35And that doesn't exist
05:36because even though Germany
05:38and the German Chancellor,
05:39Friedrich Merz,
05:40has had a robust
05:40and intense conversation
05:42with Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel
05:43about the situation
05:44in the West Bank,
05:45like Palestine,
05:46Lebanon and so on,
05:47it looks like Germany
05:48won't be changing its stance
05:50and will be taking action.
05:51So therefore,
05:51the numbers aren't there
05:52for even partial suspension,
05:54let alone a full suspension
05:56of this agreement.
05:57Maret?
05:58Okay, Shauna,
05:58thank you so much for that.
05:59And I know you'll be speaking
06:00to Luxembourg's Foreign Minister
06:02and Deputy Prime Minister,
06:04Savje Betel.
06:04Later this morning,
06:05we'll bring you that interview
06:07from Shauna
06:08on tomorrow's show.
06:10But now,
06:11the Norwegian Foreign Minister,
06:13Espen Bart Eide,
06:14was in town
06:15in Brussels yesterday
06:16to co-chair a meeting
06:18on promoting
06:19a two-state solution
06:20for Palestine.
06:20He spoke to our Europe editor,
06:23Maria Tadeo,
06:24shortly after that meeting.
06:25Maria started by asking him
06:27about the situation
06:28in the Middle East
06:29and whether he feared
06:30a return to hostilities
06:31between the US,
06:33Israel and Iran
06:34is the most likely scenario
06:36as the expiration
06:37of the ceasefire nears.
06:39Well,
06:41these are
06:42different questions.
06:43If you look at Iran,
06:44I would say
06:46the difficult part
06:48is that
06:48the sides
06:49are far apart.
06:50I mean,
06:51first,
06:52their demands
06:53are far apart,
06:54although they have been
06:55working on them.
06:55I think there's been
06:56some progress,
06:57but also because
06:58one party
07:00or the other party
07:01is asking
07:02the other party
07:02to do some
07:03of the things
07:04in the ceasefire
07:05before they go
07:06to the meeting.
07:06So my advice
07:07would be
07:07go to the meeting,
07:08talk to each other.
07:09On the good side,
07:10I think there is a motive
07:12in both countries,
07:13both in the US
07:13and Iran.
07:14The war was highly
07:15unpopular in the US
07:17and created a lot of
07:18havoc in the world economy.
07:20And I also think
07:21that Iran,
07:22who has been
07:22severely battered
07:23through the attacks,
07:24would like to avoid
07:25the continuation of war.
07:26So there is a motive
07:27and let's all try to work
07:29to help them
07:29to go in the peaceful direction.
07:32This is not only
07:33an issue
07:34for the two sides,
07:35but it affects
07:35the whole world economy.
07:37And what role
07:37for the Europeans?
07:38Because President Trump
07:40has expressed
07:40his frustration
07:41at the Europeans
07:42and NATO too,
07:43saying they have
07:44not done anything.
07:45This is a paper tiger.
07:47Without the US,
07:48they are not capable.
07:49What's your response?
07:50Well, you know,
07:51I believe very much
07:53in NATO.
07:53I believe NATO
07:54is good for all its members,
07:55including the United States.
07:57There are so many
07:59other things NATO does
08:00and by standing together,
08:02we are defending
08:03the transatlantic area.
08:04But NATO is a defensive alliance.
08:06It's not an attack alliance.
08:07It's, you know,
08:09there have been occasions
08:10where we have joined forces
08:12in entering into
08:14faraway battles,
08:15but that has then been
08:16well prepared beforehand.
08:17One has made the argument,
08:18was uninvited.
08:21The allies
08:22and collective decisions
08:23has been made.
08:24None of that was tried
08:25before the Iran war.
08:27So there was
08:28a very limited appetite
08:30to be part of the war.
08:32However,
08:33many NATO countries,
08:34including my own Norway,
08:36is now dedicated
08:36to work on
08:38making sure
08:39that the Hormuz Strait
08:41is open
08:41and remains open,
08:43not as NATO,
08:44but as
08:44in the context
08:45of a broad
08:46coalition
08:47of interested parties
08:48who are third parties
08:49to the conflict,
08:50who are not
08:51fighting
08:52with either side,
08:53but who have
08:54a shared interest
08:54in protecting
08:56the principle
08:58of freedom
08:59of navigation at sea.
09:00So NATO countries
09:01are doing something,
09:02but it's not
09:04as party to a conflict.
09:05Just finally,
09:06just so we understand,
09:07the reconstruction
09:08and the construction
09:09of a two-state solution,
09:10is that going to be handled
09:12by the Board of Peace
09:13with many legal questions
09:14around the role
09:14that President Trump plays,
09:16or is this an international
09:17UN-backed path?
09:19So the road
09:20to one unified
09:22Palestinian state
09:23will be under
09:24the principles
09:25established by the UN
09:26over many years,
09:27and there are many countries
09:29that are strongly dedicated.
09:31Remember that
09:32almost 160 countries
09:34have not recognized
09:35Palestine as a state.
09:36That is way more
09:37than three quarters
09:39of the membership
09:40of the UN,
09:41so this is clearly
09:42the world's view
09:43on this.
09:44There has to be
09:45a Palestinian state,
09:46it still takes time,
09:47but we need to ensure
09:49that that happens
09:50in such a way
09:50that we have
09:51one unified Palestine
09:52under a solid
09:54democratic governance,
09:55able to live in peace
09:57with its neighbor Israel.
09:58and it's not
09:59around the corner.
10:00Israelis have said
10:01that not has been
10:01achieved, however.
10:02They say there's still
10:03terrorism operating
10:04and they have to
10:05live in security.
10:06Are you taking
10:06in their feedback?
10:08Well, so we absolutely
10:10want to make sure
10:11that the people
10:13of Israel
10:13can live in peace
10:14as well,
10:14and that they can
10:15be free of terrorism
10:17from their neighborhoods,
10:18but then you also
10:19have to contribute
10:19to making your neighborhood
10:21the place where people
10:22like to live peacefully.
10:23So a two-state solution
10:25under the auspices
10:26of the Palestinian government
10:28with the rights
10:29and responsibilities
10:30that comes by being a state
10:32with adequate
10:33international support
10:34should be precisely
10:35the neighbor and partner
10:36that would make it possible
10:38to live peacefully
10:39and not in eternal war
10:40for Israel.
10:41So when we, Norway,
10:43for many years
10:44have dedicated
10:44so much work
10:45to the two-state solution,
10:46we do it for Palestine,
10:48but we also do it
10:49for Israel
10:49because we remain
10:50convinced that
10:51in the long run
10:52this is the only
10:53viable solution
10:55for real peace
10:56in a very troubled region.
11:00Maria Tadeo speaking
11:01to the Norwegian
11:02foreign minister there.
11:03As we heard
11:04from Shona earlier,
11:05Spain is leading calls
11:06for the suspension
11:07of the EU's trade
11:09and cooperation agreement
11:10with Israel
11:10over what it describes
11:12as persistent
11:13human rights violations.
11:14The proposal is not expected
11:16to get the necessary support
11:17from EU ministers,
11:18and this is not
11:19the first time
11:19the prospect
11:20of reviewing
11:21or suspending
11:22the agreement
11:22is raised
11:23by EU leaders.
11:25Our Jakob Yanis explains.
11:28Spanish Prime Minister
11:30Pedro Sanchez
11:31is on a mission
11:31and he won't let go.
11:33And today,
11:34once again,
11:35he will formally propose
11:36severing the EU's
11:37association agreement
11:38with Israel.
11:40Sanchez has accused
11:41Netanyahu
11:42of setting the Middle East
11:43on fire
11:44and has doubled down
11:45on his criticism
11:46of the war in Iran
11:47and Israeli attacks
11:49on Lebanon.
11:50The proposal
11:51has already hit a wall
11:52multiple times.
11:54Will it work this time?
11:57Established in 2000,
11:59the EU-Israel
12:00association agreement
12:01is the bedrock
12:02of the economic
12:02and political relationship.
12:04And for months,
12:05Spain Island
12:06and Slovenia
12:07have demanded
12:07an urgent review.
12:09Now,
12:10a European citizens' initiative
12:11titled
12:12Justice for Palestine
12:13with over 1 million signatures
12:16is forcing the issue
12:17onto the agenda.
12:18Crucially,
12:19a possible suspension
12:20would not mean
12:21a full trade ban.
12:23About 60%
12:24of Israeli exports
12:25to the EU
12:26already enjoy
12:27zero tariffs
12:28under standard
12:29World Trade Organization
12:30rules.
12:31However,
12:32the remaining 37%
12:33rely on a special
12:34duty-free treatment
12:35granted exclusively
12:36by this agreement.
12:38Suspending it
12:39would slap
12:40sudden tariffs
12:41on Israeli machinery,
12:42medical devices
12:43and pharmaceuticals.
12:45And the EU
12:46is Israel's
12:47largest trading partner
12:48with a relationship
12:49worth more than
12:5045 billion euro a year.
12:53The European Commission
12:54estimates
12:54this would hit
12:55Israeli experts
12:56with an extra
12:57227 million euro
12:59a year in duties
13:00and freeze millions
13:01in bilateral EU funding
13:03for ongoing
13:03cooperation projects.
13:05To fully scrap the deal,
13:07the EU needs
13:08everyone to agree.
13:09However,
13:10suspending
13:10just the trade
13:11privileges
13:12requires only
13:13qualified majority
13:13votes.
13:15And although
13:15Israel has lost
13:17one of its
13:17staunchest allies
13:18in Viktor Orban's
13:19Hungary
13:19and with Italy
13:21taking a harder
13:22line amid attacks
13:23on Christian
13:23places of faith,
13:25the proposal
13:26still faces
13:27an uphill battle.
13:33Jakob Janis there.
13:34Now moving on,
13:35there are growing
13:36expectations,
13:37as we heard
13:37on the top of the show,
13:38that the rift
13:39between Hungary
13:40and Ukraine
13:40over the Drushba pipeline
13:41could be resolved soon.
13:43Hungary's outgoing
13:44Prime Minister Viktor Orban
13:45has hinted
13:46he could drop his veto
13:47on EU financial support
13:48to Ukraine
13:49once the pipeline
13:50is repaired
13:51and is operational again.
13:53I'm joined for more
13:54by our Ukraine correspondent,
13:55Sascha Vakulina,
13:56who joins me in the studio.
13:57Good morning, Sascha.
13:58Zelenskyy gave an interview
14:00last night.
14:01When did he say
14:02that this pipeline
14:03could be back in operation?
14:04There are indeed signs,
14:05Mara,
14:05that it might be back
14:07and running imminently
14:09any day now.
14:10Let's take a look
14:12at the timeline
14:13of what's been happening
14:15with Drushba pipeline,
14:16which is indeed
14:17transporting Russia's cheap
14:18oil to Hungary and Slovakia.
14:20Now,
14:20it was damaged
14:22in the Russian drone attack
14:23at the end of January
14:24and then on the 5th of March
14:26Vladimir Zelenskyy
14:27and Saudi would take
14:28from six to eight weeks
14:30for Ukraine
14:30to repair Drushba.
14:33It's been seven weeks
14:34since that statement,
14:35so there we go.
14:36This is the timeline
14:37and indeed,
14:38the expectations are
14:39that it might be up
14:40and running any time now.
14:42Hungary's Prime Minister
14:44elect Petr Madiar
14:45said he hopes
14:47to have it back
14:48as soon as possible.
14:49What I can say
14:50to the Ukrainian president,
14:52although we have not spoken,
14:54is that this is not a game.
14:55If the Drushba pipeline
14:56is in condition
14:57to carry oil,
14:58then it should be reopened
15:00as promised.
15:01And this is where
15:01it is this rare moment
15:02when Budapest and Kyiv
15:04are actually aligned
15:05because this is exactly
15:06what Vladimir Zelenskyy
15:07said and did
15:08in that big interview
15:09you've mentioned
15:09to the Ukrainian television
15:10when he said,
15:11for our part,
15:12we will fulfill
15:13what we promised
15:14by the end of April.
15:15The Hungarians,
15:16I think,
15:16will fulfill
15:16what they promised.
15:18They will unblock
15:1890 billion.
15:19And the EU will fulfill
15:20what they promised,
15:21an agreement
15:22with the Hungarians,
15:23with the new government
15:24and with the others.
15:25And in that interview,
15:26Sasha Zelenskyy
15:27also outlining
15:28what he expects
15:30of the European Union
15:31now.
15:31There are a few
15:32other decisions
15:33that Kyiv is expecting
15:35to get unblocked.
15:36Now,
15:37first of all,
15:37of course,
15:37this is the new package
15:38of sanctions
15:39against Russia,
15:40also blocked by Hungary,
15:41but also there is
15:42EU accession process
15:44for Kyiv.
15:45And this is something
15:45that's been vetoed
15:47consistently by Hungary,
15:48by Budapest,
15:49even before
15:50the Drushba pipeline
15:51gets damaged
15:52in the drone attack
15:53in the end of January.
15:54Ukraine is expecting
15:55to have some clusters
15:57opened.
15:58This is the big veto
15:59of Hungary.
16:00And in mid-March,
16:02Ukraine and the European Union
16:04said that they are going
16:05technically,
16:06in technical process
16:07of unblocking
16:08those clusters
16:08and opening
16:09to make sure
16:09that Kyiv
16:10is doing
16:11all the homework
16:12to be ready
16:13for when the moment comes.
16:14And the big expectation
16:15for Kyiv
16:16is now that
16:16the moment has come
16:18indeed for that.
16:19Okay, Sasha,
16:19I'm sure we'll be hearing
16:20more about that
16:20in the coming weeks.
16:21Thank you for that.
16:23And we're moving on
16:23to the Middle East again now
16:25with the ceasefire
16:27in the US and Israel's
16:28war against Iran
16:29due to expire tomorrow.
16:30President Donald Trump
16:31has said overnight
16:32it's highly unlikely
16:34he'll extend the truce
16:35unless a deal with Iran
16:37is reached before then.
16:39For more,
16:39we can cross over now
16:40to Dubai
16:41and to our correspondent there,
16:43Jane Witherspoon.
16:44Good to have you back, Jane.
16:46There were expectations
16:47of a second round
16:48of peace talks
16:49yesterday,
16:50also today.
16:51Where do we stand
16:52right now?
16:55Good morning.
16:56Well, there are lots
16:56of conflicting information
16:58going around everywhere
16:59at the moment
17:00as to whether those talks
17:02will take place
17:03in Islamabad.
17:04It's a waiting game
17:05for now.
17:06Obviously, the Iranians
17:07are keeping everyone
17:08hanging on
17:08until the last moment
17:09with no clear direction
17:11as to what they're going
17:12to do.
17:13And we are, of course,
17:14less than 48 hours
17:16until that ceasefire
17:18deadline ends.
17:20President Donald Trump
17:21has vowed to maintain
17:22the blockade.
17:24He's also threatened
17:25to start bombing
17:26if an agreement
17:27is not made
17:28by Wednesday evening.
17:30Meanwhile,
17:31the Iranians have said
17:32that they're not prepared
17:33to enter into any negotiations
17:35under the shadow
17:36of threats.
17:37And, Jane,
17:38I know you spoke
17:39to the UK ambassador
17:40to the EWE
17:41about the situation
17:42in the Middle East
17:43yesterday.
17:43What did he have to say?
17:47Well, I think this goes
17:48further than the British
17:49Embassy.
17:50I think everybody
17:50is in agreement
17:51that this needs
17:52to de-escalate.
17:54Everyone is in agreement
17:55that also we need
17:57to make sure
17:57that there's no further
17:58regional conflict
17:59and also global disruption.
18:01As you mentioned,
18:02the UK,
18:03the British ambassador
18:04to the UAE
18:05is Ed Hobart.
18:06I sat down with him
18:07for an exclusive interview
18:09with Euronews.
18:10He told me about
18:11the UK's stance
18:12on the war.
18:13He did also emphasise
18:14that there still
18:15is a risk
18:17for escalation,
18:18unfortunately,
18:19here in the Middle East.
18:20The Prime Minister
18:21has been very clear
18:23that this wasn't
18:24the UK's war.
18:25It wasn't something
18:26we wanted to take place.
18:28But,
18:29particularly in defence
18:30of the Gulf countries,
18:33we have enabled
18:34the US
18:35to help support
18:36that defence
18:37through the use
18:37of British military bases
18:39in the UK
18:41and elsewhere.
18:43In terms of
18:45the Straits of Hormuz,
18:47what we want
18:47is the law of the sea
18:48to be followed
18:49and for these
18:50international thoroughfares
18:52which are critical
18:52to the global economy,
18:54not just to the economy here,
18:55not just to the economy
18:56in Europe,
18:57but actually,
18:58in particular,
18:58the economy
18:59in the Far East
19:00to be open
19:01and flowing.
19:02So,
19:03we don't want blockades,
19:05we don't want
19:06Iran or others
19:08causing danger
19:09to merchant shipping
19:11in this region.
19:15That was the UK ambassador
19:16to the EUAE
19:17and thank you so much,
19:18Shane,
19:19for that update
19:19from Dubai.
19:20But that's all
19:21we have time for
19:22for today.
19:23Thank you so much
19:23for tuning in
19:24to Europe today.
19:25We'll be back
19:26with more news
19:27and more analysis
19:28at the same time,
19:29same place
19:30tomorrow morning.
19:31We hope to see you then
19:32and we'll see you
19:33very soon here
19:34on Euronews.
19:59Euronews.
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