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00:08World War II is over.
00:14The Allies have occupied Germany.
00:19But British women agents remain lost across Europe.
00:24Fire!
00:30Spymaster Vera Atkins now has a permanent position with the British Air Force
00:35to find her lost women spies.
00:39And she enlists the help of a crack team of SAS Nazi hunters,
00:45led by Major Bill Barkworth.
00:50Barkworth reports about a hidden concentration camp in eastern France,
00:55designed to make secret agents disappear without a trace.
01:02And the possibility that some of Vera's lost women spies may have died there.
01:11As Vera gathers evidence for the trials of leading Nazis,
01:16the horrors she is uncovering are too much for the authorities back in London.
01:22Vera receives a clear order.
01:24I need you to keep this disgusting business out of the newspapers.
01:29The true stories of all her lost women spies must be kept covered up.
01:35At all costs.
01:47The 11th of March, 1946.
01:51Nearly nine months since the end of the war in Europe.
01:59Vera is based at the British War Crimes Office in Germany,
02:04where her promotion allows her to travel the country to hunt for her lost women spies.
02:14Two names stand out.
02:30Vera is sent by Major Barkworth an interrogation report of prison crematorium worker France Berg.
02:46Yes.
02:47Vera claims Noor was killed, along with three other women spies,
02:51at the Natsweiler camp in July 1944.
02:55But a warder at Karlsruhe prison,
02:59Fräulein Becker,
03:00says she remembers Noor being in Karlsruhe many months later.
03:05Yes.
03:06Vera already has an eyewitness testimony from Natsweiler saying that Noor is dead.
03:12And now she has another eyewitness testimony saying,
03:14no, that is not true.
03:18Noor could still be alive.
03:23The other name is Violette Sabo.
03:28Violette left her one-year-old child behind to take up arms.
03:33A child whose father had already given his life in the war effort.
03:39Nazis won't know what hit them.
03:42Very good.
03:44Violette Sabo's situation is particularly sad because she lost her husband,
03:50who never actually met their daughter, gave birth to a child,
03:54and she left her child back with her family in the UK and parachuted into France.
04:01So determined was she to keep fighting against the Nazis.
04:06Violette was last heard of at the women's concentration camp at Ravensbrück.
04:12A camp from where Vera's agents Odette Sansom and Yvonne Bazden have both returned.
04:21So is Violette also alive?
04:27Vera never gives up hope.
04:29There's always this little sliver of hope that some of them would be alive.
04:33They may be in a terrible condition, but they are alive.
04:36Or they would have escaped and they will show up.
04:41So she keeps this hope in her when she goes, but she is prepared for the worst.
04:46And as she is uncovering these stories, Vera is getting hardened.
04:51The torture she is hearing about, it is hardening her.
04:57We have arrested an SS lieutenants from a camp north of Berlin.
05:03Which camp?
05:05Ravensbrück.
05:10Thank you. That will be all.
05:16Ravensbrück is Violette Sabo's camp.
05:20Is this the stroke of luck that Vera badly needs?
05:40SS Lieutenant Johann Schwarzhuber was second in command at Ravensbrück.
05:49Schwarzhuber is a very important person for Vera to be able to interview
05:54because he holds absolutely crucial information
05:57about three of the women that she is looking for
06:01that she has since found out were taken to Ravensbrück concentration camp.
06:20The
06:20whoever
06:20isn't
06:42This one, she had the name Violet.
06:54And what happened to her?
06:59All three were taken to the crematorium building of the camp, and one by one they were shot.
07:15How do you know?
07:21I watched.
07:33How do you know?
08:35How do you know?
08:53How do you know?
09:08How do you know?
09:14How do you know?
09:16How do you know?
09:37How do you know?
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10:02How do you know?
10:02How do you know?
10:23How do you know?
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10:26His name is France Berg.
10:30Berg's testimony is key to when Vera can get a conviction against those who ran the camp and may have
10:37murdered her women agents.
10:46The next woman to be killed by injection.
10:54Rob and Cassie were two English and two French women.
11:09They were brought to themselves in the crematorium building one afternoon in July 1944.
11:32We, me and the other prisoners, see through the van light without standing up.
11:43We heard low voices.
11:48We heard noises of heavy breathing and low groaning.
11:55Next two women, we heard the same noises and regular groans but the fourth.
12:04She resisted in the corridor.
12:09I heard her say, why?
12:34To be continued...
12:55...and we all believed to be one of the two female voices in the middle.
12:55And the other people were murdered.
12:56I heard her say is, I am so pleased.
12:56The female voice of the other, is I am so pleased to be there.
12:58Let's see what it is.
13:01Then we are, we are going to adjust to the next morning.
13:08Vera now has a witness statement that she can use at the upcoming Nutzweiler war crimes trial.
13:16A testimony identifying that some of Vera's agents, including Noor, were killed at the camp.
13:24But even with Berg's testimony, this is only one man's recollection.
13:29Vera needs more evidence.
13:36Vera continues her preparation for the Nutzweiler war crimes trial.
13:42Thanks to Barkworth, she now has Berg's testimony and other witness statements.
13:49But Vera lacks a critical piece of evidence if she wants to convict those who ran Nutzweiler.
13:57Vera needed hard evidence.
13:59If she wants to bring those perpetrators to justice, she needs to gather enough of the hard evidence that will
14:09stand up in a court of law to actually bring them to justice.
14:14Vera needs documentary evidence.
14:18Something that ties those who ran the camp with her missing agents.
14:24So Vera tries to find documents that show which of her agents were murdered at Nutzweiler.
14:32Four of her agents were sent there from Karlsruher prison.
14:37Surely, Freiland Becker, at Karlsruher, would have kept records.
14:45I need to see your records.
14:47Now, please.
14:48We don't have any.
14:50I can't imagine that.
14:53The French.
14:55When they came, they destroyed everything.
14:57Smashed it all up.
15:02All gone.
15:05Fraline Becker tells Vera that all the prison documents were destroyed by the French.
15:11Now, that reeks of a lie.
15:13Vera must have known she was lying.
15:14Why would the French go to a German prison and just randomly destroy all the records?
15:22But she's nowhere to point me out unless Fraline Becker tells her the truth.
15:26And how is she going to get her to do that?
15:31Vera chooses to visit Becker again.
15:35This time, with the S.A.S.
15:47At Karlsruher prison, Barkworth and Vera confront Freiland Becker.
15:53Where are they?
15:56Where are what?
15:57The records!
15:58I don't know.
16:00I don't know.
16:01Where are they?
16:01I don't know.
16:05Such a...
16:05All of it!
16:10You think the French destroyed everything?
16:11They did.
16:12Why would they do that?
16:13I don't know!
16:15Because you lied!
16:18Mal!
16:20What do we have here, huh?
16:27The records.
16:30Liar!
16:31Liar!
16:50Vera and Barkworth go through the prison records.
16:55Every entry and exit from the prison is marked.
17:01Vera finds entries that on the 6th of July, 1944, four women agents are transferred from the prison at Karlsruher
17:09to the concentration camp at Natsvinder.
17:16This corroborates what Berg told Vera about four agents who were killed at Natsvinder.
17:29Vera now has clear evidence that four women agents were murdered.
17:34The names are Andre Borel, Vera Lee, Diana Roden, and Sonia Olszineski.
17:48The fourth name, Sonia Olszineski, is unknown to Vera.
17:54Vera expected to see Noor's name or alias.
18:01Witnesses had identified Noor as traveling with this group to Natsvinder.
18:06Noor was born in Moscow, so a Russian-sounding alias could make sense.
18:15For Vera, Sonia Olszineski's entry, taken with other evidence, is actually for Noor in Ayat Khan.
18:25Vera has written evidence that four SOE women, including Noor in Ayat Khan,
18:31are transported from Karlsruher to Natsvinder, and most likely killed there.
18:38She can now take the evidence to trial.
18:46The 29th of May, 1946, the Natsvinder war crimes trial begins in Vorpital, in the west of Germany.
18:57The Natsvinder trial would have been so important to Vera,
19:00and it was her other chance to get information about the women,
19:04so she could provide that to the families and her close ones,
19:07but also to bring these men to justice.
19:12This was the most brutal execution, murder, in fact, of these women.
19:18It didn't need to be done in such a horrific manner, if at all.
19:23This will be a British-led trial,
19:25with Nazis tried on German soil, but under international law.
19:31A trial about one of the Nazis' specially hidden concentration camps
19:36in the mountains of France.
19:40Natsvinder is not particularly well-known, but it was in microcosm the system of the concentration camps set up in
19:47Germany,
19:48and in this case in France.
19:50It was a camp of 22,000 deaths, around 55,000 people held,
19:54went through Natsvinder, so relatively small compared to some of the other concentration camps in the Reich,
20:00but nevertheless a system of tremendous brutality,
20:03slave labor, medical experimentation, oppression, violence,
20:08the Kampo system, a terrible, terrible place.
20:14But before the trial starts, Vera receives a blunt instruction from her new boss, Norman Mott.
20:22Vera,
20:25everything, everything, and I mean everything,
20:28has been done in London to keep this disgusting business out of the newspapers.
20:34I need you to ensure that the press's interest is discouraged,
20:39and your reputation's ungodly.
20:43I understand.
20:48I suggest you start by getting the names of the dead with help from the trial.
20:57Their families won't like it, Norman.
21:01They want to know what happened.
21:06Too bad.
21:08It's a disgusting business, which ain't that's buried.
21:15Have you got a match?
21:19No.
21:21No.
21:23Okay.
21:30And that's why the trial would have been a troubling time for Vera,
21:34not only because of hearing the dreadful incidences and the details of what has happened,
21:39but also that SOE was still a secretive organization.
21:42People were not aware that women had been sent into the fields in violation of the Geneva Convention.
21:52And she probably worried not only if their names got out into the press what had happened to them,
21:57but there was questions we start to raise about who had sent them,
22:01why had they sent them,
22:02why had this been allowed to happen.
22:07After four days of hearings,
22:09the verdicts are delivered to the accused.
22:20Werner Rode,
22:22the medical officer who injected the women,
22:24is given a death sentence.
22:34Peter Straub,
22:36SS officer in charge of the executions,
22:38is given 13 years in prison.
22:42Later that year,
22:43he is given a death sentence.
22:47Fritz Hartenstein,
22:49the commandant of Natsweiler,
22:50is imprisoned for life.
22:54The verdict of the Natsweiler trial
22:56was that the three men
22:57who were on trial for the murder of these SOE women
23:01were all found guilty.
23:02So, in some respects,
23:04that's a very positive outcome.
23:06She had proved that this murder was unlawful,
23:09its execution,
23:10as they called it.
23:11But then the sentences
23:12may have been a bittersweet moment.
23:15Did Vera want an eye for an eye at this point?
23:17Did she want to see these men suffer
23:19and pay the ultimate price?
23:20Or was she just happy to have received the guilty verdict?
23:24She was a very straightforward woman,
23:26and I think she would have been just pleased
23:28to have seen these men go down for what they've done.
23:34Vera secures the agreement of the court
23:37that the names of the dead
23:38will be withheld from publication.
23:42Thanks to Vera's work,
23:44the trial fails to create
23:46Mott's much-feared newspaper sensation.
23:50Vera's role in the affair
23:51remains out of the public eye.
23:55For now.
24:03Vera turns her attention
24:05to her final three women spies
24:08from Karlsruhe,
24:09who are unaccounted for.
24:22Vera comes across an interrogation statement
24:25taken by American investigators
24:27of Gestapo soldiers stationed
24:30in the town of Karlsruhe.
24:40One soldier, Max Vassmer,
24:44recalls transporting women prisoners
24:46from Karlsruhe
24:47to Dachau concentration camp.
24:52The ranks of three of the women
24:54match those of Vera's unaccounted agents,
24:58and Vassmer's detailed description
25:01of one woman
25:02matches Madeleine Dallon.
25:09At Dachau,
25:10Vassmer reportedly tells his colleagues
25:12that he pronounced the death sentence
25:14on women
25:17and that they were then killed.
25:22But can Vera be sure?
25:26Other Gestapo soldiers
25:28claim there were four women,
25:30not three,
25:31like Vassmer says.
25:32They also claim
25:33that one of the women
25:35came from a completely different prison
25:37called Pforzheim,
25:38not Karlsruhe,
25:40as Vassmer states.
25:42One of the problems
25:43that Vera has,
25:44and indeed all the people
25:46involved in the war crimes trials have,
25:48is the veracity
25:49of the witnesses.
25:50Because when she got
25:52testimony or drawings
25:53or verification
25:56from her own side,
25:58her own agents,
25:59people who were also in the camps
26:00and said they saw
26:01three women or four women
26:03who came into the camp,
26:05she can believe them.
26:06They may not remember everything,
26:07but at least
26:07she knows that they're being honest.
26:10But when you're relying
26:11on the testimony
26:12of an SS officer
26:13or a capo
26:14who's worked in the camp,
26:16they're also self-interested.
26:17They also want
26:18to exonerate themselves.
26:19And so it's very difficult
26:21often to know
26:21if they're telling the truth.
26:23And so even though
26:24she gets the Vassmer testimony
26:26and she thinks
26:27she's got some solid information
26:29about what's happened
26:29to her final three agents,
26:31she can't really be sure,
26:33particularly when she gets
26:34contradictory evidence.
26:36Can Vera trust
26:38Vassmer's testimony
26:39in the report?
26:41Vera has to find Vassmer
26:43and interrogate him
26:45herself.
26:51August 1946.
26:55After months of searching,
26:57Vera tracks Vassmer down
26:59to internment camp number 74
27:01in Ludwigsberg, Germany.
27:07Vera is the only one
27:09who knows all three SLEAs.
27:11She knows them intimately.
27:13And Max Vassmer says
27:15that he thinks he's identified.
27:16Now, this is a huge big deal
27:18because Vera can actually
27:19get the man in front of her
27:21and determine whether
27:23these women were different
27:24women or were her agents.
27:26And, you know,
27:27being there and you speak
27:28to somebody about it,
27:30where you know,
27:30you know,
27:31if you show somebody
27:31a photograph,
27:32you know whether they go,
27:33that's definitely the person
27:34or I think that's the person.
27:36And it's all to do
27:36with intonation.
27:37It's all to do
27:38with being in the same room
27:39as someone.
27:40So for Vera,
27:40being in the same room
27:41as Max Vassmer
27:42is really important
27:44so that she can interrogate her.
27:47Her name is Max Vassmer,
27:49correct?
27:52Yes.
27:55You transported her men
27:57from Carthorough Prison
27:58to Dekka,
27:59correct?
28:17Yes.
28:21And then you watched
28:22as they were shot,
28:24correct?
28:27No.
28:28I handed them over
28:30to the guards.
28:32This report clearly states
28:34that witnesses
28:35saw you take the women
28:36to be shot.
28:40Well, I was there.
28:41Yes.
28:43I wasn't present
28:45at the end.
28:48The guards took the women in,
28:50not me.
28:52We just...
28:54We just did transport.
28:58And how did others know
29:00that four women
29:01would kill?
29:02Three.
29:04The report says
29:05four women.
29:08It was three.
29:11How can you be so sure?
29:13Because they gave me
29:14a receipt.
29:18For what?
29:22The next day,
29:24the guards gave me
29:25a receipt
29:25for three women spies
29:27shot dead.
29:29We needed it
29:30for bookkeeping
29:31like a Carthorough.
29:38Shall I describe
29:39them for you?
29:44Three.
29:46Vassal provides
29:48descriptions
29:48of three women
29:50transferred from
29:51Carlsruhe
29:51to Dachau
29:52that match
29:53Vera's records
29:54of three
29:55SOE women.
29:57Vera has sufficient
29:58proof
29:59that her
30:00SOE agents
30:01Jolande Bichmann,
30:03Eliane Plumann
30:04and Madame Darmel
30:06are killed
30:07at Dachau.
30:11Vera,
30:12after interviewing
30:13Max Spassner,
30:14now has
30:15everybody
30:15accounted for.
30:16She knows
30:17exactly where
30:18all of her agents
30:19ended up
30:20and there must have
30:21been a sort of
30:22wonderful sense
30:22of completion
30:23but also this
30:23tragic tag
30:25of knowing
30:26that there's
30:27nobody left
30:28to say
30:28and just the
30:29horrific nature
30:30of their deaths.
30:31It must have
30:32been absolutely
30:32awful.
30:40Vera now believes
30:42she has sufficient
30:43evidence
30:43to account
30:44for every one
30:45of her lost
30:46women spies
30:47alive
30:48or dead.
30:52She writes up
30:53a report for
30:54London
30:54closing the case.
30:57of the 39
30:59women
31:00Vera sent
31:01to war
31:0127
31:02returned
31:04alive.
31:06Many
31:06after
31:07sustained
31:08torture.
31:1312
31:14lose
31:15their
31:15lives
31:15at the
31:16hands
31:16of
31:16the
31:17Nazis.
31:23She
31:23encloses
31:24draft letters
31:25to be sent
31:26to the
31:26women's
31:26next of kin.
31:28Details
31:28of their
31:29names
31:29to be
31:30completed
31:30in London.
31:34It is with
31:35the deepest
31:35regret
31:35that I have
31:36to inform
31:37you that
31:38your daughter
31:38was killed
31:39in the early
31:40hours of
31:41the 13th
31:41of September
31:421944
31:43in the
31:44camp of
31:45Dachau.
31:46According to
31:47what is believed
31:48to be a reliable
31:49report,
31:50she was shot
31:51through the
31:51back of the
31:52head and
31:53death was
31:53immediate.
31:55The body
31:55was cremated
31:56in the
31:57camp
31:57crematorium.
31:59Vera does
32:00succeed
32:00in discovering
32:02the fate
32:03of the
32:0312
32:04missing
32:04women
32:05agents
32:05and in
32:07that sense
32:07there is
32:08closure
32:08for her.
32:10She has
32:10succeeded
32:10in discovering
32:11what's
32:12happened to
32:12all of
32:13them but
32:13also it
32:14means that
32:15she can
32:15write to
32:16the families
32:17and personally
32:18tell them
32:19what's
32:19happened
32:20and she
32:21carries that
32:22for the
32:22rest of
32:22her life.
32:24What you
32:24find later
32:25in life
32:25is some
32:26of the
32:26children
32:27of the
32:28agents
32:28who died
32:29in action
32:29actually
32:30seek her
32:30out.
32:31They travel
32:31from across
32:32the world
32:32because she's
32:34the one
32:34tangible
32:35physical
32:36link
32:37with those
32:38agents
32:38and so
32:39she assumes
32:40a really
32:41important role
32:42not only
32:43immediately
32:44after
32:45investigations
32:46but for
32:47the rest
32:47of her
32:47life.
32:49She's the
32:49one that
32:49carries
32:50their
32:50memory.
32:54Vera
32:55has finally
32:56uncovered the
32:57fate of
32:58her missing
32:58women
32:59and prepares
33:00to leave
33:00Germany.
33:06With this
33:07part of her
33:08mission over
33:08Vera will
33:10return to
33:10England.
33:18Now she
33:20must answer
33:21the hardest
33:22question.
33:24How did it
33:26all go so
33:27wrong?
33:39Vera must now
33:40uncover why so
33:42many of her
33:43agents were
33:43captured and how
33:45the Nazi
33:46intelligence service
33:47seems to infiltrate
33:48SOE's agent
33:49networks so
33:51successfully.
33:52When Vera
33:53returns to
33:54England,
33:55there's a
33:55niggling doubt
33:56in her mind
33:57that perhaps
33:58they have been
33:59betrayed,
34:00she's been
34:01betrayed,
34:02perhaps there
34:03was a spy
34:04within the
34:05SOE,
34:06perhaps there
34:06was somebody
34:07betraying them
34:08all along.
34:12and the most
34:13terrifying fear
34:14starts to take
34:15hold of her
34:16that somebody
34:16very close to
34:17her,
34:18somebody who
34:18she has to
34:19have worked
34:19with at SOE
34:20itself,
34:21might have
34:22actually betrayed
34:23her.
34:23and she has
34:24to start
34:24thinking,
34:25did I
34:25send these
34:27agents out
34:28to their
34:29depths?
34:30Were they
34:30being parachuted
34:31to or flown
34:32to the
34:33waving arms
34:33of treachery?
34:37The man
34:38who is key
34:38to this
34:39is the
34:39head of
34:40Nazi security
34:41in France,
34:42Hans Kiefer,
34:43who is hiding
34:44somewhere
34:45in Germany.
34:48Find Kiefer
34:49and you'll
34:50find the
34:51traitor.
35:03Vera
35:04passes a
35:05tip to
35:05her
35:05friend,
35:06SAS Major
35:07Bill Barkworth,
35:08that Kiefer
35:09might be
35:10hiding
35:10in his
35:10hometown
35:11of
35:11Garmisch
35:12in
35:12Bavaria.
35:18With Kiefer
35:19on the
35:19run,
35:20Vera
35:20turns to
35:21another
35:21leading
35:22Nazi.
35:23to try
35:23and uncover
35:24how the
35:25Germans
35:25captured
35:26her
35:26women
35:26agents.
35:30He is
35:30the man
35:31who masterminded
35:32the Nazi
35:32radio operation
35:33in northern
35:34France.
35:38Dr.
35:39Yousef
35:39Gertz.
35:46Gertz
35:47worked as
35:47one of Kiefer's
35:48lead
35:48counterintelligence
35:50officers.
35:52Dr.
35:53Gertz
35:53works
35:54in
35:54Avenue
35:55Faulkh
35:55in the
35:55Sikkerheidsdienst
35:57headquarters
35:57in Paris.
35:58And he's
35:59an underling
36:00of SS
36:01Sturbanfer
36:01or Kiefer
36:02from the
36:02Sikkerheidsdienst.
36:04And his
36:05job is
36:06effectively
36:06to engage
36:08in
36:08counterespionage,
36:09to collect
36:10the evidence,
36:12letters,
36:12documents from
36:13enemy agents
36:14and keep
36:15them,
36:15analyze them,
36:16and then
36:16give that
36:17information
36:17forward back
36:18to Kiefer
36:18and inform
36:19him about
36:20what the
36:20agents are
36:21up to.
36:23There is
36:23one thing
36:24Gertz is
36:25especially
36:25good at,
36:26which is
36:26fooling
36:27the British
36:27with fake
36:28radio
36:29transmissions.
36:34London was
36:35oblivious
36:36that agents
36:36had been
36:37captured,
36:39and that
36:39Gertz was
36:40using information
36:41tortured out
36:42of them
36:42to trick
36:43SOE
36:44into reviewing
36:45intelligence
36:46about the
36:47agents'
36:47circuits.
36:49Basically,
36:50a game
36:51that they
36:51were playing
36:52with the
36:53British
36:53by sending
36:54them false
36:55messages
36:55through their
36:56own wireless
36:56transmitter.
36:57So when you
36:58capture an
36:58agent,
36:59it would be
36:59taken back
37:00to Avenue 4,
37:01and they'd
37:02been interrogated,
37:03and that
37:03transmitter was
37:04kept.
37:05So that
37:05meant that
37:06when they
37:07gave them
37:08the right
37:08codes,
37:09they could
37:09then give
37:10false
37:10messages
37:11back to
37:11London,
37:12and get
37:13them to
37:13do all
37:13sorts
37:14of things
37:14that they
37:14wanted to
37:15make them
37:15think that
37:15agents
37:16are still
37:16OK and
37:17haven't been
37:17detained,
37:18or indeed
37:19give them
37:19false
37:19messages
37:20about what
37:21was happening
37:21in the war
37:22that would
37:22get passed
37:22to the
37:23chain
37:23to Winston
37:24Churchill
37:24and affect
37:25the war.
37:28Gertz is
37:28one of thousands
37:29of suspected
37:30war criminals
37:31arrested after
37:32the war.
37:33But when it
37:34is discovered
37:35that he is
37:35the radio
37:36mastermind
37:37at Avenue
37:37Foch,
37:38he is sent
37:39to England
37:39for further
37:40interrogation.
37:43Fungstil.
37:45That's what
37:46we call it.
37:47The radio
37:48game.
37:50And London
37:51is very
37:51bad at it.
37:54We would
37:55impersonate
37:55one of your
37:56agents,
37:57ask questions,
37:59and London
38:00will give us
38:01the answer
38:02with a
38:03little
38:04slap on the
38:05wrist.
38:07please use
38:08your security
38:08code next
38:09time.
38:17London
38:17was a joke.
38:20When the
38:21agents we
38:21captured knew
38:22how much we
38:23knew already,
38:25well,
38:26they simply
38:27gave up.
38:30What did
38:31you do once
38:31the agents
38:32were caught?
38:35we
38:37interrogated
38:38them
38:38for more
38:40personal
38:40information.
38:43More?
38:45Kiefer
38:46told your
38:47agents
38:48that we
38:49knew all
38:50their secrets
38:50already.
38:52And if
38:52they wanted
38:53to live,
38:55well,
38:56they'd have
38:57to collaborate
38:58with it.
39:01How did
39:02Kiefer
39:03know so
39:03much?
39:04personal
39:05information
39:06was never
39:06shared
39:07by radio.
39:09No,
39:10not by
39:11radio.
39:14The only
39:15personal
39:15information
39:16was sent
39:17by mail.
39:26Gertz reveals
39:28that Kiefer
39:29somehow gets
39:30access to
39:31personal
39:32letters
39:32that Vera's
39:33agents send
39:34from France
39:35back home
39:36to England.
39:43Uncoded
39:44letters
39:44full of
39:46private
39:46information.
39:50Vera
39:50discovers
39:51that Kiefer
39:52has actually
39:52had access
39:53to all
39:54of the
39:55mail
39:55from the
39:56agents.
39:57So they
39:58didn't have
39:58a chance
39:59when the
39:59agents
40:00were dropped
40:00into France.
40:01The Germans
40:01know exactly
40:02who's coming
40:03and when.
40:04And that
40:04realization
40:05that the
40:06Germans were
40:07reading all
40:07the agents'
40:08mail
40:09must have
40:10been such
40:11a shocking
40:12revelation
40:12to Vera.
40:13and then
40:14it leads
40:14to the
40:15next
40:15question.
40:16Who
40:17had
40:17betrayed
40:18them?
40:23How did
40:24Kiefer
40:24get to the
40:25mail?
40:27Kiefer
40:28told me
40:29that he
40:30got it
40:30from Gilbert.
40:51Gilbert is the
40:53code name
40:54for
40:54French
40:55agent
40:56Henri
40:57Derricol.
41:05How lovely
41:06to see
41:06you in
41:07my mind.
41:07The man
41:08S.O.E.
41:08had trusted
41:09with the
41:09safety of
41:10their agents
41:11appears
41:12to be
41:12a traitor.
41:15Derricol
41:16had already
41:17been recalled
41:17to London
41:18by Buckmaster
41:19and Boddington
41:20after allegations
41:21of collaborating
41:22with the
41:23Nazis.
41:25Derricol
41:26pleaded
41:26his innocence
41:27and after
41:28an investigation
41:29Don't worry
41:30Derricol
41:31but we'll
41:31clear this
41:32whole
41:32story
41:32business
41:33Thanks
41:34Sir.
41:34He is
41:35cleared.
41:38Vera
41:39is put
41:39in a
41:40position
41:40where she
41:41either
41:41believes
41:42a Nazi
41:42or a
41:43possible
41:43double
41:44agent.
41:45Henri
41:45Derricol
41:46is in
41:46the
41:46heart
41:47of
41:47the
41:47S.O.E.
41:48He
41:48is
41:48one
41:49of
41:49their
41:49own.
41:50This
41:50is
41:50a man
41:51she
41:51hands
41:52over
41:52her
41:52agents
41:52to.
41:53How
41:53could
41:53she
41:53possibly
41:54believe
41:54that
41:55he
41:55could
41:55be
41:55a
41:55double
41:56agent
41:56he
41:56was
41:56cleared
41:57I
41:57mean
41:57surely
41:57everybody
41:58knows
41:59him
41:59how
42:00did
42:01the
42:01Nazis
42:01know
42:02so
42:02much
42:02how
42:03is
42:04it
42:04possible
42:04and here
42:05is
42:05Gertz
42:06saying
42:06well
42:07you
42:07you
42:07you
42:07this
42:08I'm
42:08telling
42:09you
42:09the
42:09truth
42:09and
42:10it
42:10must
42:11have
42:11been
42:11such
42:12a
42:12worm
42:12in
42:13her
42:13mind
42:13was
42:14Derricol
42:15a
42:15spy
42:16a
42:16double
42:17agent
42:18so
42:19who
42:19is
42:20telling
42:20the
42:20truth
42:21Derricol
42:22or
42:23Gertz
42:25one
42:25one
42:26the
42:26problems
42:26with
42:26trying
42:27to
42:27tease
42:28out
42:28spy
42:29is
42:29that
42:30you
42:30have
42:30to
42:30trust
42:30people
42:31that
42:31you
42:31don't
42:31trust
42:32and in
42:33this
42:33case
42:33she's
42:34talking to
42:34people like
42:34Dr.
42:35Goetz
42:35from the
42:35SD
42:36and it's in
42:37his vested interest
42:38has been
42:39for years
42:40to play
42:42cat and mouse
42:42games with
42:43the SOE
42:44and with people
42:45like Vera
42:45and so she
42:46has to decide
42:47well can I trust
42:48somebody like Dr.
42:49Goetz
42:49so
42:50these doubts
42:51are also in her mind
42:52what does she
42:54really know
43:00the only way
43:01for Vera
43:02to be sure
43:03is to find
43:04the mastermind
43:05for all
43:05Nazi intelligence
43:06in northern France
43:08Hans Kiefer
43:11a man
43:12who is on the run
43:13hiding somewhere
43:15in Germany
43:27but all of Vera's
43:28work comes into
43:29question
43:30when she receives
43:31a letter
43:31forwarded by
43:32her superior
43:33Norman Mott
43:37the letter
43:38is written
43:39by Yolande
43:39Lagrave
43:40a member
43:41of the French
43:42resistance
43:45Lagrave
43:46writes
43:46that in
43:47June
43:471943
43:48she was
43:49arrested
43:50by the
43:50Gestapo
43:51and transferred
43:52to
43:53Pforzheim
43:53prison
43:59I was able
44:00to correspond
44:01with an
44:01English
44:02parachutist
44:02who was
44:03locked up
44:03there also
44:04she was
44:05very
44:06unhappy
44:07her hands
44:09and feet
44:09were chained
44:10and she was
44:11never allowed
44:11out
44:12I heard
44:13the blows
44:14which she
44:15received
44:15from the
44:15prison guards
44:16she was
44:17taken away
44:18from
44:18Pforzheim
44:19in September
44:201944
44:21before she
44:22left
44:23she had
44:23been able
44:24to send
44:24me
44:24not her
44:25name
44:26because it
44:26was too
44:26dangerous
44:27but her
44:27alias
44:28and she
44:29also wrote
44:29down her
44:29address
44:30for me
44:30it was
44:31this
44:32Nora Baker
44:33Radio
44:34Center
44:34Officer
44:35Service
44:35RAF
44:364
44:37Taveston
44:37Street
44:38London
44:55had once
44:57been her
44:58family's
44:58home
44:59and Nora
45:00Baker
45:01had once
45:02been her
45:03alias
45:16Vera
45:16believes
45:17the
45:17prisoner
45:17LeGrand
45:18writes
45:18about
45:18is
45:19Noor
45:21and if
45:22Noor
45:22had been
45:22held
45:23at
45:23Forzheim
45:24until
45:24September
45:251944
45:27then there
45:27is no
45:28way
45:28she could
45:29have been
45:29one of the
45:29four women
45:30killed at
45:30Natsviler
45:31in July
45:321944
45:35when Vera
45:35learns about
45:36Noor's fate
45:37and the fact
45:38that she's
45:38gone before
45:39Zion
45:39it's such a
45:40mix of
45:40emotions
45:41because here
45:42she thought
45:42she's written
45:43to her family
45:43that if Noor
45:44has been
45:45killed
45:45in Natsviler
45:46she has
45:47internalized
45:48that now
45:48dealt with
45:49that
45:49thought there's
45:50been some
45:50closure
45:51and now
45:51this has
45:52opened up
45:52something else
45:53could Noor
45:54be alive
45:54did she manage
45:55to get up
45:56what happened
45:57to her
45:57so she is
45:58in a space
45:59where now
45:59she has to
45:59find out
46:00the final
46:01journey
46:02she has to
46:02find out
46:03if she is
46:03there is
46:04a sliver
46:04of hope
46:04but also
46:05what could
46:06have happened
46:06to Noor
46:08so what
46:09did
46:09happen
46:09to Noor
46:11if she
46:12wasn't
46:12killed
46:13at Natsviler
46:13could Noor
46:15still
46:15be alive
46:17Vera
46:18has to
46:19uncover
46:19the truth
46:20to
46:28noor
46:48noor
46:50can't
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