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El ciclista zipaquireño habló con El Espectador sobre su temporada, sus negocios, su cirugía de espalda, lo que viene para él en los próximos meses y más. Egan será la cara del Gran Fondo de Ciclismo de Bogotá, que se llevará a cabo el próximo 17 de octubre.
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00:00Hello friends, welcome to a new video of The Espectador, we have a guest who doesn't need
00:04presentation, but I'm going to mention it, Egan Bernal, one of the most important
00:09in the history of our country, some consider it the best because he won the Giro d'Italia, Tour
00:16de Francia and well, we have him with us to talk a little bit about the year, a little bit
00:21of what
00:22comes to him and also to talk about the Fondo, the Grand Fondo of Bogotá. Egan, how has
00:28its relationship between you? Well, good day to all, I think it's very good, we are doing
00:35the last preparations for the Grand Fondo, which is the 17th of November, and we are super
00:41happy, obviously very proud of having this event here in the capital, which, as we say,
00:51we have to be a special event, it's the capital, and we want to give it the first
01:00grand fondo that has been done here in the city, and that alliance between Bogotá as the capital,
01:06Egan Bernal and Ciclo, I think it will be very good.
01:10How did you start that relationship? Who spoke to whom, how was it?
01:17Well, everything came out because the Consejo gave a special mandate to make a Grand Fondo.
01:25The project came to us, we started to talk about how we could do it, and in the first
01:34reunion that we had with the Alcalde, we were very happy with what we thought about, and that
01:42is how this project was born.
01:49It's a Grand Fondo of Ciclism of Bogotá. Bogotá is the city in which you were born,
01:53it was a very curious thing, but you usually have to be related, it's more like
01:58from Ticipaquirá, it's the one that's created, and I always thought that one is more from
02:01where it is than where it is, but I would like to ask you, how much is Bogotá,
02:06apart from your identity?
02:08Well, when I ask them where it is, I don't say that I'm Bogotá, I'm from Ticipaquirá,
02:15I live there the most part of my life, and in fact, when they talk about Bogotá,
02:21it was a little bit of fear, it's like the city, the capital, and I didn't like it much,
02:32until my wife is from Bogotá, and obviously, she is the one who sent me home,
02:37she brought me here, it really liked me a lot, I think it's a city that gives me opportunities
02:46to the majority of their population, it's not the capital of Colombia, it has a lot of history,
02:56and I feel that even the people don't feel so proud of living here, there's no sense of belonging
03:04to the city, and we simply call ourselves the bad things, the trap, the insecurity,
03:11that I don't know, well, things don't happen only here, but in the majority of the capitales
03:16of the world, even, that was the first conversation we had with the mayor,
03:23that this big foundation had to have the difference, that we had to show the beautiful part of the city,
03:32here in the center is where the revolution of Colombia for us to be independent,
03:39here, there is a lot of history, and from there is where we are going to go,
03:43we are going to go there, at 9km, we have a pyramid, I think it's the biggest pyramid
03:50of the world, and it's at 9km from the city, and it's like that,
03:56all these things that we want to show, so that the people feel proud of the city,
04:02that they can ride here in the city, without triangles, without semáfores,
04:07that it's different from going on in the city, without semáfores, without the
04:11ovejita passing, without the perro atravesados, because it's normal,
04:14the city is for everyone, but that's the day it will be for the people that are
04:17in the Grand Fondo, and that want to be apreted to the top of the city
04:19throughout the city.
04:21Well, we have a few months, we were able to talk about when Cicla was born,
04:25and I wanted to talk a little bit about the part of ELEGAN Empresario,
04:29because, well, came Cicla's podcast, came Cicla's tienda,
04:33and now Cicla's is working with the Alcaldía for the Grand Fondo.
04:37What is going on for Cicla?
04:38Well, we want many things,
04:42a lot of people,
04:42one is always ambitious,
04:45and they always want more,
04:47like in the cyclism,
04:48when I won the Tour of France,
04:51I won the Giro of Italy,
04:52I won the Giro of Italy,
04:53and I think the same happens here with Cicla,
04:56with the tienda,
04:57with the podcast,
05:01and now the Grand Fondo,
05:05and we will always want more,
05:07but that will also depend
05:09of how good the city has been
05:11from the city,
05:13and the people,
05:14and the people that monta in Cicla.
05:17Well, retomando a little bit of Cicla,
05:18I would like to ask,
05:19well, we've seen that
05:21it's very often
05:22that figures of the international ciclism
05:24have their own podcast,
05:25and there are times
05:27that in that type of format,
05:28they can have another type of confidence,
05:31another type of language,
05:32well,
05:33it's not the same,
05:34we both are in this moment,
05:35well, the type of confidence
05:37that we have to talk about
05:38with Cicla y with his guests,
05:39and in that order of ideas,
05:40well,
05:41there are no filters,
05:43and I remember the case of Nairo,
05:46and Thomas,
05:47and the insult,
05:48and that has affected the environment
05:52in the pelotons,
05:52and the fact that there are podcasts
05:53and one can listen to others.
05:57No,
05:57no, no,
05:58I think
05:59I think
06:00I think
06:01it's like
06:01when you talk to me,
06:03you talk to me
06:04in a different way,
06:07it's a different environment,
06:09and
06:09let's say
06:10with Cicla
06:11what we want
06:12is that people,
06:15not only me,
06:17but also
06:17that I know
06:19the Egan Bernal
06:20the real
06:23but also
06:24the other type of
06:25runners,
06:26we have a lot of
06:27runners,
06:28the Dani,
06:29the podcast of Dani,
06:30for those who have not heard,
06:30it's very good,
06:32and
06:32we have a different way,
06:35as I would say in an interview,
06:38but
06:38never
06:40to get
06:41to get
06:42offended
06:43or something
06:44like that,
06:44it's not going to happen.
06:47I would like to ask you a little bit
06:48after the good year
06:50with the good start
06:51of the week,
06:52but after that,
06:53when it comes to the back,
06:56when it comes out of the Olympics,
06:58how have you enjoyed it
06:59with all those challenges?
07:02the same way,
07:04I think
07:09with the fact
07:10of being alive,
07:12I'm enjoying it.
07:13At a certain point,
07:14I could have been dead,
07:15I could have been in a row,
07:16and it's something
07:17that obviously
07:18you won't be saying
07:19in all the interviews,
07:20because I'm going to say
07:21that I don't want to
07:22make excuses,
07:24but
07:24I feel it
07:25and the fact
07:26that I can even
07:28win one more
07:29I won a match,
07:30I won the
07:31that I had to win.
07:32I won the tour
07:32I won the only one on the one
07:34tour of France
07:34and I'm happy
07:37with it,
07:38I'm proud of what I made
07:40and the fact
07:41of being alive,
07:44to be able to inspire people,
07:47that is something
07:48important.
07:48People now
07:49I not only do
07:49the tour of France
07:51but
07:51for what
07:53has been
07:54happened
07:54after the collapse
07:57that it is
07:58can be more important than to win the same Tour de France.
08:02About what has been the season, I would like to ask you about the good
08:07performance in a week races.
08:09Do you have to rethink how to change the profile and focus there?
08:14Or is it the goal is to take the best version to be in the fight in the three weeks?
08:20I think the preparation is basically the same.
08:22If you prepare for a week race, it is almost the same as for a week race.
08:27It changes the recovery that your body will have during the three weeks.
08:35But it is not like, for example, a person who is preparing for a week race,
08:39or that is different, or a classic man, or a contralogist, or a Filipo Gana,
08:45that is prepared differently than a person who is preparing for a week race.
08:50But if you look at the people who win a week race,
08:53they are the same as in the week race.
08:55So I think the preparation is going to be the same.
08:58I would like to ask you about Ineos.
09:02We see the explosion of the superciclist,
09:04it is something we talked about in the last three or four years.
09:08What changed in Ineos to say,
09:11do we have to think about how to compete with them?
09:14Or what has happened within the team?
09:16I think it is something very cyclical.
09:18In this moment, we have to think about what we can improve.
09:23Now we have to look at what the other teams are doing to improve,
09:26which is good.
09:28When Ineos won everything, people would say,
09:30oh no, that's a pain, that won another team.
09:31And now they want to win Ineos.
09:34But it is okay, it is part of the game.
09:39And so on the part of the mental work,
09:41to learn not to enjoy it, but to live with pain.
09:45Because it is a sport in which the pain of pain are more evident than others.
09:50So how do you learn to enjoy it?
09:53It has to like it.
09:57It depends a lot of the cyclist,
10:01but all the cyclists,
10:03all the people who are capable of on Tour de France
10:04are because they like to suffer.
10:06No one can say that they end on Tour de France with suffering.
10:09It is what you choose to do
10:13and decide when you make a contract.
10:16Finally, for us, it is a job.
10:18It is not only going to be able to get on the bike.
10:20We pay for this.
10:22And I always have to say,
10:23it is much more difficult to get up at four in the morning
10:28to work at a company where you pay the minimum.
10:31That was what my mom said.
10:32So when they say,
10:33ah, no, the cyclist is hard.
10:34I say, yes, it is hard.
10:35It is hard.
10:36It is hard to do other things
10:37that other people,
10:38the majority of people in the world,
10:42with a much lower pay.
10:45I know that you have not been operated on the back.
10:47How has it been to be able to ride with the bike?
10:49Do you think that that is solved the problem?
10:50No we know if it is going to work
10:51at 100% in the bike or not,
10:53but at least I know that
10:55for the normal life it is going to work.
10:58In this moment I am sitting here with pain.
11:00I think,
11:00The same thing.
11:03It is a lot of weight.
11:06For the bad guys,
11:08I have some weight.
11:10I am not done at all.
11:11It is a lot of weight,
11:11but I have to go to work.
11:12It's a lot of weight,
11:13I have to have to do it.
11:14to see if it works or not, but in this moment it's not true.
11:19And what's going on for you in this 2024 season?
11:22I'm going to keep training a lot,
11:26doing a lot of strength,
11:28cuidating my back,
11:29and, little by little, trying to do it the best possible.
11:34And, obviously, preparing me here
11:36to the Grand Fond of Bogota,
11:39who had been bothering me,
11:40and I think the ones who were going to learn
11:42are they.
11:44And, with Rigo, we had the fight together
11:46in the Berjón,
11:48so I don't have much time to train.
11:50I would also like to ask you,
11:51how much is it necessary to have friends
11:54in the team?
11:56Because, I don't know,
11:57the distance, the fact of being concentrated.
12:01No, it's not necessary.
12:03I say, this is a job.
12:05Obviously, I have friends in the team.
12:07This is a job.
12:09This is a job.
12:10Maybe you don't have friends in the job,
12:13but you come here,
12:14you sit here and work with your job.
12:16It's the same for us, even more strict.
12:18Because, sometimes, one has,
12:20if you don't get good at one person,
12:21but you have to go there to take 200km
12:23to get you,
12:25it's going to be the same.
12:26It's going to be the same.
12:27And, in all,
12:28you still have to be rivals,
12:29because they have to show results
12:30to be the six that are going to go to a certain race.
12:33Well, yes,
12:34because you don't have to go to the other extreme.
12:36It's a balance.
12:38It's not black nor black.
12:39Exactly.
12:39Because, finally,
12:41one knows.
12:42One knows when the other is better
12:43and, simply,
12:47there is a good rivalry.
12:48To end,
12:50I would like to ask you,
12:51how much has influenced,
12:55the fact of,
12:55I don't know if it's in formation
12:57or the fact of the investment,
12:58that now we don't have
12:59so many Colombians
13:00fighting with white shirts
13:02in big rounds.
13:03We won a very important part
13:07in the world's cyclism,
13:10but it's not easy.
13:15Even in football,
13:16there was a moment
13:18that dominated Brazil,
13:21Argentina,
13:23Germany,
13:24England,
13:24etc.
13:25It's the same in the cyclism.
13:27Before it dominated France,
13:28in the moment,
13:29we dominated
13:30in a single season,
13:31Paris-Niza,
13:32Suiza,
13:34France,
13:35that year,
13:36we won a rest of the races.
13:38At this moment,
13:39we dominated the Slovenia.
13:42But, obviously,
13:43we have to continue working.
13:44It's like with the team.
13:45If we, as Colombia,
13:46want to be back in front,
13:47we have to work.
13:48Colombia has to invest.
13:50We have to look at
13:51what can be improved.
13:52We have to look at
13:53working with the children,
13:54working with the seed
13:56in four or five years,
13:58we have to have
13:58someone fighting
13:59with a black
13:59who can fight
14:00in France again.
14:02Speaking of Rigo,
14:04to finish this interview,
14:06he announced
14:06that he retired
14:07at the end of this year,
14:08but his retirement
14:09didn't have been so good
14:10in the sense
14:11that his last round
14:12had to go
14:13for a fall.
14:14I would like to ask him,
14:17if he can't control those things,
14:19but how would it be
14:21for Egan Bernal
14:21the ideal return?
14:22Hopefully,
14:22we will pass a long time
14:24for that.
14:25I don't know.
14:26First of all,
14:28I think that Rigo
14:29is above the bad
14:29and the bad.
14:31Even the same
14:32Nairo Quintana
14:33are runners
14:34who don't have to
14:35retire
14:36winning,
14:36they don't have to
14:37retire
14:37at their best level,
14:39because,
14:40I'll say,
14:41in the cyclism,
14:42for a person
14:43who is above the bad
14:46and the bad
14:47and the bad
14:49in my case,
14:50I want to retire
14:51and enjoy
14:52that.
14:53I don't want to
14:54get to the point
14:55where I don't enjoy
14:56that.
14:56I love to
14:58ride a bike,
14:59I love to
15:01exercise,
15:02I want to
15:03I want to feel
15:05useful for the team,
15:06not all
15:09is
15:10winning
15:11in personal
15:12but
15:13to be part
15:14of the team
15:15to win a Tour
15:16in France.
15:17That's something
15:18great,
15:18so I'll keep
15:19going on
15:19until
15:22the head
15:23allows me
15:23to keep
15:25enjoying it
15:25and while I'm enjoying it,
15:26I'll be quiet.
15:28Perfect,
15:28Egan,
15:28well,
15:30we could keep
15:31talking about
15:31all the morning,
15:32but the time
15:34is not eternal
15:35and Egan has more
15:36things to do,
15:36we just thank you
15:39for joining us
15:40in this space
15:40with one of the best
15:41cyclists in the history
15:42of Colombia
15:42and we invite you to follow us
15:44on all the social networks
15:45The Espectador,
15:46muchas gracias.
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